The Christmas Carnation Murders 

You brought festivus to the rest of us!

That Chapter - Happy Christmas to you & your’s, Mike!

What do you want for Christmas? What are your plans Mike?

Happy Christmas! #TeamTrees

😂 Capt Mike again. Happy Yule Mike. Always love your content -Stephanie

xD

KrossCheckN specially in front of them !! Maybe that way they wouldn’t witness it

KrossCheckN Good point. Maybe it was too complicated for them

@@bilindalaw-morley161 Must have been! Lmao

@Phantom Alpha :( I can be fun! I'll murder my entire family right now! I swear! (For legal reasons, that's a joke. Lmao)

The lovely state of Washington. 🙄

@Dominic sounds like you support child murderers. If you god was real why does he allow innocent children to suffer?

@Dominic god which god? The god who speak to a father to kill his son for sacrifice and pop somewhere and told that father its a prank bro?

@Dominic Selfrighteous feels good doesn't it? BTW, exactly where do you think the concept of "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life" comes from? As far as pervert goes, I think you are engaged in a bit of projection there. Just because the idea of seeing someone executed excites YOU sexually, doesn't mean it excites everyone else in that same way. Let someone murder 6 of your family members and then come preaching this sanctimonious BS about compassion and forgiveness. If it was me, justice would be done with or without the government's help. All that being said I personally believe a life sentence is more of a punishment. But, in extreme cases where guilt is proven beyond all doubt, I think the victim's family should decide which punishment they perfer.

@@davewade30 im not religious in anyway but imo the death penalty is a easy out for them. why would you give someone who killed people a easy out for what they did? make them sit in a cell for the rest of their life dealing with their actions

Omy God That poor Lady beautiful lady heart of Gold beautiful soul how sad these monsters 👹 took her life. I am not a mean person but these two need to go straight to Hell with their father Satan and burn 🔥 for eternity.

Rest in Peace Judy. AMEN 🙏

We need more people like this woman, not less.

Dammit,I hate when amazing people die...🥺rip

@miss vlad, same 😢

Me too, especially I don't have a best friend only best enemy.

That 911 call broke me 😢

Would be the perfect opportunity to take pictures and videos of the scene. Once in a lifetime opportunity right there. It was not like it was their own family.

@@paulwoodford6229 most people don't have an interest in taking photos of their dead friends they just found.

@@paulwoodford6229 who tf would do that to his best friend ?!!

Or, as he'd say, "fwee went"

That's so fucked up, but I laughed anyway. I'm sure her prison stay has been a breeze, since we all know prisons don't care about people who hurt/kill children, right? 😉😁

MUAHAHAHA!! greatest comment

Not really. It cost to live in prison.

a christmas miracle

I was thinking the same thing! Screaming and gunshots clearly heard!! Police should have busted in with backup on that call. Then that poor lady wouldn't have had to walk in and see the horrific crime scene of her best friend and family murdered....that trauma and horrific image will be stuck with her and in her mind for the rest of her life. I always thought that any 911 call made that the police are required to show up and verify by speaking to someone and checking things out that everything is ok before dismissing it even if the call was made by mistake. Guess that's not the case 😕

My Mother hit 911 on speed dial (she took it off the speed dial afterwards because dialing 911 on purpose was just as quick and less chance of an accidental call again)... But, she hit 911 on accident, hung up because she realized and never heard anyone answer. Within 10 minutes there were officers approaching my step father in the front yard. He had noooo clue she had made a call at all. (She really didn't either) and they would not leave until they were able to verify everything was ok. That was Indianapolis, Indiana. I really can't think of any reason it should be handled any differently anywhere else.

@@constanceleah118 I agree, that's how it should be handled everywhere. I am sure 911 calls are dialed by mistake all the time but better to check it out thoroughly and confirm it was a mistake rather than assume it was and dismiss it when someone really needs help. In this case had they gone in and checked, some of the family members may have been able to get immediate medical attention and possibly been saved. I sincerely hope the officer learned from this and never dismisses another 911 call without thoroughly checking the residence and everyone at the residence.

Cops are morons.

Olli Rolli I did once and they just made the situation worse. I’ve also worked with them as a paramedic, they will do anything to get out of writing a report so the won’t help when they should be involved. They are garbage.

Mike at Sword and Scale (podcast) reported that he was found to not be mentally ill. So everyone was right.

When I was a teenager I was locked up in juvie with this kid who beat his pregnant girlfriend to death. It was so creepy being around him

Especially as the police failed :(

felt that fr

It pulled at the heart strings for sure..

fr that shit hit different

Wouldn't it be worse seeing them die first? I'd rather die with a hope than live with the knowledge.

Please go away knowing they're all together now in Heaven holding eachother and together forever now. God May they all rest at Peace .🙏🙏 🙏 🙏 💜💜💜💜

@@tylerskiss that is very true but in a situation where I felt we would all likely die anyway, I would prefer to have to have the awful pain of seeing my children die so that they hopefully could die first not realising what was about to happen and just being quickly shot. I would hate for them to see their parents shot and even if it still happened quickly, have been in absolute terror before dying themselves. As their parent, I would rather be the one to have to cope with the horrendous realisation of our fate than for them to

@@lulabellelikes4228 I guess I'm thinking from where I am in life right now, which is with a child who doesn't yet understand death, so as horrible as it is to even hypothetically imagine it, in that case he'd be seeing daddy go to sleep and I'd be spared what I can assure you would be the greatest emotional agony even for a few short seconds. Or maybe... we can sweep the leg and grab the weapon and then save everyone, how about that? That way no one loses.

excuse me? would you rather the children are murdered or tortured infront of their parents first? ffs killing the parents and the adults first then the children quickly after is better if it had to be done in a particular order

There's a seat reserved for him downstairs

Lol

Um, you’ve never heard of the Holocaust? Why do people insist on being comfortable 100% of them time and can’t be bothered to learn how evil works to help come together to fight it? People would rather ask the same question 400 Trillion times “I just don’t understand”….”I’ll never understand”…. It’s like all you have to do is Google anti social behavior and BAM…you’ll understand…but nope. To much work to use your fingers go Google the info.

There has to be no soul in them.

It's really upsetting it's a whole situation and Joseph mcenroe says that when he looked at the little boy I never looked up at him shook his head knowing that it was okay what was going to happen to him

I just can't wrap my brain around being jealous enough of someone else's happiness that you murder your entire family, why did any of them have to go through this, epically the kids, like why?? It just doesn't make sense, I've been paying my part for rent since I was young, and I'm on disability sure, but I still pay for my shit. I just don't understand the motive at all. I'm so so sorry for your lost.

@@joannajamerson35, there’s an eerie photo of Nathan, as a baby, staring across the room at Joseph and Michele. Pam said the look on Nathan’s face was almost as though the baby knew the man was evil, or Nathan may have even had a sense of what was to come.

@@CHASE420stars, when I read the police interview and came across the part where the two had decided it was better to take the lives of the children than to leave them alive with memories of that night, I was horrified. I join you in confusion at trying to understand it. Last week, I had a long conversation with Pam and we talked about Erica, Scott, Olivia and Nathan. She keeps their memory alive. In spite of the nightmare Pam continues to move through, she inspires me to look for joy, extend kindness and fill my heart with gratitude. She’s the strongest woman I’ve ever met. Thank you for your kind words.

@@amypemberton528 I'm glad you have pam and pam has you, I'm genuinely confused because my family have had their spats about rent, smoked the devil's lettuce but no ones ever been violent, or if they have they just got put in a different family's home, like I see no reason for epically the children, now I didnt know them, but they look just like my cousins I care for, I just am so confused as to how evil you have to be to kill children, I dont talk about it much but I went through something horrible when i was around Olivia and Nate's age and it left me with alot of damage yeah but I can still live, just because a child is damaged doesnt mean their corrupt, like that was so confusing for me, sadly the person that did those things burnt alot of evidence of very bad stuff about me and other children and claimed insanity, he only got two years so I had to move and leave everything I love behind, but I can only imagine the kind of horrifying nightmares she has, and I hope pam is getting support from everyone right now. I'm certainly not a religious person but those two children are in a much better place then where Michelle and Joseph' will be going. (This story is so tragic, I read up about Nate but they dont really talk about olivia much :( those two little ones deserved to live, when I read the details of Nate's DNA being in erica from holding her so tight I cried and almost puked, what a disgusting witch Michelle is. )

I know. I started to sob with her hearing that!

When someone writes the book, I'd like to hear her say on Michelle and Joseph Mcenroe. I mean, they obviously were always problems for Judy and Wayne. Joseph, so, he could never quite learn to say his ``Rs,'' so what was up with that?! I mean, normally a child with that, they get speech therapy, easy-peasy? I've never met an adult who spoke like that? There must have been drugs involved? And, good God, the dispatcher hears the damn gunshots going off and the line going dead, and the cops don't see the point of overcoming the obstacle of the gate?! It's King County, Washington, serial-killer playground, and that's the dispatcher they have?

@@quickchris10 the operative word here is "normally." Not all parents are concerned with giving their children the best opportunities. No doubt he was bullied or taunted as a kid, just look at the comments here. I think he was telling the truth, he just wanted to do what his gf wanted him to do, and then maybe she'd stop harping. I think he's a tragic figure. Not saying he shouldn't be punished, but he also needs serious therapy.

@@quickchris10 just look up anything on here with Jonathan Ross. Dude has a career as a TV presenter, same speech impediment.

@@QuantumLeap83 Well, I have heard people who can't say their R's (everyone in Boston,) but his seems extreme; perhaps because he is so whiny.

Makes my heart sink man.

How very sad 😭

It's ESPECIALLY crazy to me, because: 1. I'm a Washington native 2. I'm only a year and a half or so older than Olivia was 3. My middle name is Olivia

@@ChakkyCharizard Jesus those are some eerie coincidences. I can't imagine what your parents were feeling, hearing about this little baby being murdered and looking over at their baby whose about the same age. Something similar with me in that I'm just shy of being 2 years younger than Maddie McCann and when she went missing, toddler me and my parents were in Spain on holidays. Like we were that close to where this happened and I was around her age, if I was my parents I'd have had baby me on a leash from pure paranoia

This really hit me, I live just outside of Carnation. I most likely would have gone to school with them.

It's because our governor is shite at his job. When I moved to Seattle in 1992, I remember there were a couple of executions.

He’s admitting to murder so it probably changed the sentence from death to life. The jury made that decision in this case, not the judge or governor

He was a real character. Would be a shame to sentence him to death. He is too interesting.

You’re so close to the point but just missed it lol. Maybe we shouldn’t have the death penalty at all.

@@maddieb.4282 That was a rhetorical question which embodied anti death penalty sentiment... i didnt miss the point lol. If we dont use capital punishment for this what do we use it for? ie. it has no purpose

Me, too! I thought maybe Mike chose stories with a lot of 🌲🌲!

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31, 33, or just 3 as well as 21 are extremely common numbers when it comes to murder and mass murder

And turd...wait that is only used by my young boys.

Like tree children?

Well, your not a crazed sicko.. so there's that!

@@BeenThereOverItNow The irony when you realize their comment was intended to be discovered, and help paint the picture that they wouldn’t kill all the children which police are currently investigating them for. If they don’t comment back, I suppose it may not have worked, and they have to answer for all those bodies.

@@BeenThereOverItNow a 'crazed sicko' is just being 'ill.' it means it's not your fault. so your off the hook. it means there's help. an evil person? other matter entirely. where nothing is going to help. and there is no excuse. and it's entirely your fault. and when people like her and him die? whatever punishment they have in life is nothing. absolutely nothing compared to what they get to suffer in hell forever.

Lord Walker evil people see no harm in murdering children let alone adults. They don't care, it's nothing for them. What they don't know and don't even care about yet- until it happens? They choose to go to hell through their evils and suffer forever at the moment of death but hey- that's their problem.

drugs

He was merely the simp for the woman. She found a mentally simple man she could control.

At least no one suffered..... Wow just wow..... Seems he has shit to hide .... Idk I don't trust him

I've always thought that highly suggestible/gullible people are just as dangerous as their manipulators and should be locked away to prevent their stupidity from being taken advantage of to inflict carnage on the rest of us.

@@HavocHerseim Imagine being a simp and going to prison for a porker like that...just wow.

And he LOOKS and SOUNDS absolutely disturbed.

He's creepy for sure, stuff of nightmares. 😳😱

Listening to Joseph testify you just know her family absolutely hated this guy.

Home star runner

He is why LSD is illegal.

Oowwwwkwway

He just wanted them to have a beddawr wife. No suffawing.

I keep trying to understand why he has such a specific speech impediment. 🤷🏾‍♀️

I saw this comment as I just started the video and thought you were talking about Mike 😂 (his Irish accent and how he pronounces 'r' and 'th' is a big talking topic apparently) ... nothing could have prepared me for Joseph's voice omg

@@jenniferhundley148 It's called rhotacism.

You need to watch more videos, I've heard worst!!!

He seems weird and unhinged, but I get the feeling that he’s on the spectrum and also uh, not the most *intellectual* of individuals. People who are totally “normal” and calm when they talk about murdering people are more scary to me, tbh.

Well, there's only one wiener at a time allowed on the upper penis. You must negotiate.

@@dickJohnsonpeter what?

Its in our primal instinct to get the creeps from this guy. His voice alone sends signals to run far away from.

Not defending the murders, but we really have no idea what her life was like. We shouldn't make assumptions.

@@rowynnecrowley1689 They still brought her up and there is absolutely nothing that could justify what she's done. Murderers don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Geez, ain't nothing on legal paper so if the daughter was so desperate she could just never pay back and she won't be legally obliged to do so.

@@rowynnecrowley1689 We don't have any idea what her life was like, but there's NO defence for what she did. The closest I could come to a mitigating factor would be abuse of some description, so assuming that, (hypothetically) you'd imagine that the parents were the abusers, so why kill her brother, sister-in-law, and two young children? Why live on the same property? If she'd been abused you'd imagine her moving as far away as possible, as soon as possible, but she continued to live just yards away fry her parents - doesn't point to a terrible lifelong relationship IMHO. You're correct when you say that we shouldn't make assumptions - an admirable sentiment, but it's difficult to see past the brutal slaying of six people, obviously including two very young children.

@@rowynnecrowley1689 So, it is justified to kill her parents if she got issues? Hm. Luckily she was not your child, or u might be gone by now lol

But hey, she doesn't have to pay rent to her parents now, so she's quids in. What a clever girl. Put her in charge of the Federal Reserve.

Mic drop

L0gginginisstupid Free to the person going unfortunately but not to John and Jane Taxpayer

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"Fucking duh, right." - Joe McEnroe

When I saw the picture I couldn't help but say out loud, "he's definitely a murderer"

Ditto

Same! I saw those 2 and thought they give me a creepy feeling 😳

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Poster Boy for Meth ABUSE... HORRIBLE MONSTER

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The next red flag was...they don't pay rent

Hahahah I saw the pic and went :O

Yeah, I already thought they were losers when he said that!

bubba aint stop violating that dudes ass in prison i hope

He also said that the little boy looked at him and nodded as if he understood what was going to happen to him and it was okay

@@joannajamerson35 Yeah because this guy's IQ is super low. Somehow he justifies it to himself. It's disgusting.

@@joannajamerson35 😭 I’ll never understand how people can do things like this.

@@loris7660 They enjoy it. It’s the only power they have.

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Just heart so breaking 💔 😢

I feel bad for the ones murdered

"..and she's my best friend." :(

She must’ve been in such a big shock to not run out of there as soon as she saw the first body

I really like this!

It was interesting to me that he said “this torturous existence” not “a” torturous existence. Seems unnatural phrasing. For example “to grow up living a torturous existence” would make more sense. I know it kind of makes sense when he’s just described the act so saying “this” as in what he’s just described-the picture he’s just painted if you will. But it could be that in his mind life itself is a torturous existence. Not comparable to watching your family slain- by a family member, in front of you as a kid, but I’m guessing to himself his life was a pile of shit and he not only agreed that he’s ‘saving’ them from the inevitable lifelong trauma of growing up post massacre but that he was maybe also doing them a favor ‘freeing’ them from what in his view is a torturous experience anyway. Life. I could be talking bollocks though. I just don’t understand how any human can kill children. I guess doing that disqualifies you from being classed as human. Those poor kids

I love this post and yes breathing is great.

Til you hit the blunt too hard, then breathing causes coughing attacks.

Something George Floyd misses😂😂😂

I'm so sorry about your dear son , and your husband. Bless your heart.

Exactly what I said. Plus she was an addict. I don't see her having enough money to loan out $40k when she lived in that mobile home rent free. I think something happened and she felt like he needed to pay her $40k to make it right, because I just don't see her having that kind of money to loan to someone, brother or not. I know the family. This happened in my home town, I'm close with the surviving sister, Mary. Her and my dad dated for a while a few years back.

According to her he owed her money. According to my ex hasbeen, everyone owes him something... And he's got a trick for every one of them, including me, it's a mentality, some people think everyone owes them something.

@@constanceleah118 Yeah, true. A lot of people like to blame their problems on other people whether they mean to or not. One of my friend's girlfriend is like that and she is basically a 30+ year old who is willingly homeless (loooong story lol)

Well they won't be paying rent for sure.

@Olli Rolli Well, my understanding is that they were wanting her to pay after she had been given free rent for a year or so. Plus, she was a grown woman. She shouldn't have been living at home anyway.

I am so sorry for the loss of your family members. My deepest condolences, what a horrible tragedy

I am so sorry for your loss. 😢

This is so awful and abhorrent! That poor family and those children. So sickening I'm sorry this happened to your family

You rewatch them. A second "turd" or 4th time lmao. Enjoy, time and time again.

Check out Mr. Ballen. 😊

Check out Christina Randall too

Tree times is charm😂

Go watch all of JCS videos.

While I wouldn't proclaim either of them innocent I would describe both as insane given the motives. (That said I'd describe most murderers as insane, not to say I'd describe any as innocent)

You ever think that might be because people who commit mass murders tend to be mentally ill?

I don't see why it really matters. Mentally insane or not, they're a danger to society and they should be put to death. ALL MURDER CASES SHOULD END WITH THE DEATH PENALTY. Sorry but mentally ill folks who are violent don't have a right to live

MrAnjelorion Well, you’re wrong, because they do have the right to live unless determined by a grand jury, in which case they still have the right until their execution date. And the death penalty for every murder case will simply never happen. It’s too expensive, too controversial, and is often traumatic for the guards selected to administer the lethal injection; that’s why convicts are on Death Row for so long. And there is always the possibility of a wrongful conviction as well.

@@charlieapples9373 the death penalty is only expensive because they get an entire life sentence before being executed. If someone is truly found guilty they should be executed within the year. Sign me up I'd administer the injection to a bunch of filthy animals every day

Exactly. Sick.

You better believe it bro.....

Cases like these are in the 0.001 percentile. I wouldn’t worry about it you’ve got more of a chance of an eagle landing on your head. Most people are decent.

Olli Rolli well if you look at how often these sort of crimes occur it’s pretty self evident, so no survey needed

@@joeyblogsy you got the numbers then right?

Full-time POG close enough yes

@The Reverend Jim Jones ignorant policeofficers. i guess they wanted to go home quickly to open up presents...

The place is tucked up in the forest, I live near there. Gun shots are a regular thing out here, it's rural so there's a lot of hunting and such. And, you can't see the house from the driveway...it's dark out there.

@Layla W some, not all!

@Cynthia hoping this is a Frank Ocean reference

The police couldn’t get in through the locked gate. The co-worker was clearly very high IQ and quickly worked out that she could walk around it. Ahh the marvels of high IQ individuals.....and alas the low

Agree!! I was thinking the same thing! Especially for those poor babies!! 💔😢😭

The death penalty is barbaric. One innocent death is too many. Life in prison is worse.

Either the guy is one of the greatest actors of all time or he wasn't right in the head.

Do they even have the death penalty in your country? Where are you from

I feel like he really wants them to suffer in prison forever over killing them. Which, I'm not entirely against myself lol.

very good choice of juxtaposition just as fd up as this monstrous crime

I don’t think he’s lying about the twitches since he was heavily medicated but he’s probably over exaggerating them lol

@@ComaLies225 I think it's from the medication as well. If people disagree they might try a tramadol and theyd understand...

He's definitely faking, at 16:12 he stops constantly twitching to talk, and when he's done talking he resumes twitching. It's a painfully obvious act.

@@RaccoonNation I've had my fair share of experiences. Trust me, those are not from medication. It's entirely put on.

@@ChristieBrewster you say "by that logic" and then mention some scenario that has nothing to do with what i said. And again, he never had this twitch before this case, or during the first part of it until it was convenient to make it up

I love it lol

Tall shits

Charles Veitch I know native Canadians that say it the same way. 😆

@@lorimaloney2368 we Cajuns talk like that too cher'

@@lorimaloney2368 some Cajuns too

@blahblahblah mememe stop your racist bs

@@Arevui You know for a pagan you're pretty oblivious to how the system is rooted in bigotry and oppression and suppressing dissent. You'd think a history of being hung, drowned or set on fire would be enough for you to learn that one. The same forces that built a system to slaughter non-Christians built the system to oppress everyone else outside their group too.

@@PosthumanHeresy discrimination is everywhere, people hate each other, some hate those who are rich, some hate those who are poor, or from the nation they don't like. It's not only about blacks.

@@Arevui It's not just about the emotion of hatred however. You need power to actually put said hatred into practice. If your local convenience store employee hates rich people, how much ability do you think he has to act on that hatred, assuming he doesn't go shoot up a place? Not much. Maybe occasionally he can spit in someone's food or something, but that's about it. Now, how much ability do you think a legislator that hates black people has to harm them? How much ability do you think police have to harm someone? Obviously a lot more, because they have the power to do so. Or to bring it back to religion, I'm sure you've met at least a few people that hate Christianity. How much ability do they have to actually make an impact on the lives of Christians? Now, how much ability do Christians who hate non-Christians have to harm them? Obviously a lot more, because Christians hold the majority of power in the country. You can hate all you want, but without power your hatred is impotent. A paraplegic could have the psyche of a serial killer, but it's not like they have any ability to act on it.

They really shouldn't be able to sleep at night because of this

At least we can rest easy knowing bubba got in those cheeks

Really, I think the American judicial system could've learned from how the Russians dealt with Andrei Chikatilo, the Butcher of Rostov, but the Americans are soft, yeah, they really are. Not long after Chikatilo was sentenced to death he was taken into a basement room and shot in the back of the head. That's how you deal with these 'things.'

I would like to see a video of Michelle's trial that would be interesting

Ohhhh me too

Parents- pay rent Daughter- well gotta kill everyone now 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

It's interesting how nothing from hers had footage :(

Search "Michele Anderson trial." There is actually quite a bit of footage of it. She doesnt actually ever take the stand (that I saw) so there isnt footage of her talking in person, though they do play footage of the audio of some of her interrogation and her confession. The only thing I saw of her talking was during her sentencing when the judge asks if she wants to say anything and she just says "no thank you."

How didn't the 911 operator hear that?

Wow I'm glad he didn't play it too.

My god that’s heartbreaking

So this was all on the 911 call, and all it took for officers to not bother to check it out was a locked gate? That's ridiculous.

that is heartbreaking .. like my gosh

EXACTLY! Joseph is clearly broken. He should be put in an asylum, not prison.

ItsMeWolfy I agree. He may very well have been exaggerating his apparent insanity to try and get leniency (truthfully, who wouldn’t?), but at the same time he seems very genuinely disturbed.

Yes. I know that seeing the victims of a murder, especially children, can evoke feelings of retribution, revenge and retaliation. However I've seen abnormal psychology and I've seen it in settings similar to this. Maybe he didn't show emotional reactions like this to the prosecution or police, but on the stand (while medicated) is where I would expect to see the most intense self inventory. That's where you'll see the symptoms most.

I thought a lot of this was an act prior to that but Jesus that was such a real moment. The guy clearly had a lot of issues, it gave me chills.

DifferentWorlds Yeah, that moment and his “fit” immediately afterward was...too imperfect to be an act, if you know what I mean. The stuttering, the sudden realization of what he’d just said (and done), the thrashing...there was nothing theatrical about it. It was disturbing because he was deeply disturbed in that moment, to the point that he couldn’t contain it.

IKR they all do and even then they get 25 to 30 yrs to fight that ...bs if u know they did it ...TAKE THEM OUT OF THIS WORLD. ...QUICKLY

You say that as if he'd do it the good way that calms people down while he could not speak creepier, no matter what he'd done. If someone would speak to me like this even if it would be just about the weather I'd run away lol. Honestly, if Leto would have watched him maybe his Joker would have been any better.

You can tell he wants to act and be like Hannibal SO BAD, and it’s just sad AF 🤦🏼‍♂️

Lol

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Yes...

@@dalegribble5661 Y'all got any of that pocket sand?

Bad combination

Seems like he was simple minded and she was malicious. This is truly a horror story.

Well there ya go, using logic. I swear, all of these stories make me wonder what some people WOULDN'T kill for. We all have to realize there will at some point be a That Chapter episode titled "The Klondike Bars Murder" where someone has literally killed for a goddamn Klondike bar.

@@cade377 What would you do for a Klondike bar? Lol I'll see myself out

I'm so wrong for laughing but I couldn't help it! He was like "shiit😩" 😂😂😂

I couldn't help but laugh as well. I'm going to hell

yeah what’s up with him speaking like a 3 year old? whacko faker.

He sounds like Kripke

Right Why does he talk like a baby?

Hilarious

Because "What in Tolt" doesn't have the same ring to it.

fr i have lived in carnation my whole life and even live less then 10 minutes away, my mother went to school with the murders and i went to school and was friends with her nephew, can’t believe this happened to this day

I don't think we do in Australia, either, but... funny how parole boards have routinely denied parole to some of our most violent offenders. I mean that even way past the extent of their given sentences, they've still been kept in jail due to some extraordinary measures like government intervention...I wouldn't be the least surprised if the same has occurred in the UK.

We do. It’s called a whole life order.

@@Michelle-dh5gs you are correct Examples are Moyra Hindley & Ian Brady, Peter Sutcliffe, Ian Huntly

@@TracyH13 Also Rosemary West in the U.K. and Katherine Knight in Australia were sentenced to whole life orders.

Yeh ikr i was cringing the whole time

For the life of me, I can't understand why court wasn't recessed at that point.

what do you think 6 murders on your conscience and living in prison having killed two kids would do to your psyche? dont think hes faking it and would have to be mental and stupid to even do this to begin with

Not all families are like this one.

first I'd need property, a trailer and some family. But I still wouldn't let them 🤔

Amen to that. This happened to my grandma. Had an Aunt & Uncle who did this for years. Ran a big ass extension cord to grandmas main house & really took advantage. When she died the house & property was all sold & they had to finally move. She never made them pay anything & it was a big source of contention within the entire family. Glad that’s all over with now. She was just too nice & didn’t have the heart to make them pay or leave. It was HER house & property & so my mom tried to talk to her but it was ultimately her decision. Ridiculous. Thankfully, they were never psychopaths likes these two POS’s. Just extremely lazy.

@@BarkingShark All right, don't take my advice. :)

We did. Dad let the fam put trailers all around the farm... we only had 2 murders tho... nothing like this.

And getting beat the shit out of them for killing two babies in cold blood

Never send police to do a womans job

I'm police🤣

@Zooted Ludes oh yeah gunshots and screaming in the 911 call isn't enough, right?

@Zooted Ludes uh, there were definitely gunshots on that call, and screaming. Makes zero sense why they wouldn't have gone in.

Cops are fucking useless.

It’s literally the worst. I wasn’t for capital punishment until I started watching Mikes vids. Some people don’t deserve to be part of society. Prison is too good