There's a simple explination as to why they didn't want him to remember. Movie tickets are hard to sell and the idea of a man jumping life to life sounds like a fascinating mystery and psychological thriller. Then they realized that they didn't have the creativity to answer their own question and just decided to roll will it. E Z money E Z life
The bit with the social worker was actually well written. Perhaps from our perspective we are jumping into his live in the middle of it. Hes jobless, destitute and paranoid. Hes spent a lot of time freaking out about memories that he didnt have
This movie was way too quick with its reveal. When we get our first look at the Harvesters and find out that Ian is being deliberately murdered to stop him from remembering something, Ian has only switched lives once.
I actually like this movie but I've never really thought of it as a horror flick, it's always felt more like a dark action flick to me. Also, the power of love playing in that scene fits way to well. I can't help but feel that if this movie was made in the 80s they would of used a sound alike there.
I actually really liked this movie, I understand the story doesn't really make much sense though. At least it tried to be original and not just another slasher movie.
I agree although the story and pacing might be off in places. It’s reminiscent of a Jacobs ladder or Dante’s inferno tale a deeper message behind the gritty storyline
Not familiar with creepypastas except for when a certain old man is reading them so... What is it like ? Hell, maybe Old Man will read it to us if this gets attention.
+turkishvan2 thats what makes this a horror movie actually, the rules of sports are slightly different in that dimension, the rest was just filler for getting back to sportsland and fixing the rules
Wow... The villains' motivations fall apart with 10 seconds of thought. How does shit like this get made? How big of a headache did the actors get reading this script?
A lot of people on IMDB point out how this movie blatantly combines concepts from various movies. I see a lot of Jacob's Ladder and Dark City in it, also a little bit of I Live in Your Basement, but that was an obscure, underrated Goosebumps book.
Lady Marmalade the concepts I believe are based on old Roman mythology if I’m not mistaken, Director Dario Piana stated the basis of the script was written with those in mind which also inspired the like of Dante’s inferno, Jacobs Ladder etc
Awww crap. I'm really disappointed in how this turned out. This premise did have promise, even with him being one of them. Though it sounds more like an anime series than I live action movie. I will admit to even kinda liking the end where he was still a killer, if only cause sappy happy ever after endings make me harf.
I thought the big reveal at the end would be like in Jacob's Ladder - that it turns out Ian was dying in real life and all those scenarios were going on in his head.
This movie feels like one of those "ordinary character finds out he's a very powerful BLANK and he's being secretly watched by other BLANKS that are waiting for tHe rIgHt mOmEnT to take them to the strange world" stories like Harry Potter or The Matrix, except the movie restarts once the plot starts moving.
I don't know, I am big into creature features, so that was kind of my favorite part. And the creatures here I think were really well done, far better than films like Mama, which had a much bigger budget. I recently saw Crimson Peak. Not a great movie but I loved the ghost in the movie. But yeah maybe if they had held off the reveal a bit more that could have given a greater impact. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
John Lemus I agree. I’m indifferent when it comes to creature features but it worked alright for the plot here. Overall the movie was a steady story that set itself apart from the more common slashers at the time
Theres a lot of problems with this movie but one thing that would immediately make part of it more coherent without too much effort is if they had Ian LOSE the hockey game at the start because he got a random flash of a previous life for the first time and it threw him off at an important moment. Then instead of whining about losing a hockey game you move the bit where he talks about a past memory to there and have the girl act concerned in a way that to the audience seems like actual concern - but then after she kills him throw in some line about making sure he doesnt remember this time to make it clear that the reason she didn't immediately kill him is because he DOESNT usually remember and for whatever reason now he's building up some kind of immunity to their memory wiping process. Like in the time between that conversation with her and him being killed she tried to talk to the others to figure out what to do and they decided to see if it was just a fluke or something. This also gives a sense of desperation to the villains killing him over and over again, since theyre trying to keep him trapped/figure out whats going on and running out of time to do so, and makes it more reasonable when they jump from instant killing to interrogation because they're really running out of time and have to change tactics. You don't actually need to even come up with a special reason why his memories start to come back if you just lean into the "Ian was originally very powerful" thing and have it be his subconscious is retaking control of the situation (similarly can use this to justify other people remembering things too).
I seem to recall having about the same reaction when I saw this movie. The basic idea is actually really good (a guy who keeps dying and waking up in different lives) but the explanation of the set up is just really horrible.
***** Yeah, it needed a better explanation and a better pay off. Like maybe they're all virtual reality instead of actual lives and they're trying to get some kind of information out of them. Make then aliens and make him someone important like maybe they had taken over the Earth and he was a high level resistance leader and they're trying to get tactical information out of him so they put him in these virtual realities and get various 'people' in them to get close to him to try and get the information. Then maybe the old guy is another resistance member (someone they tried the trick on before) who had somehow broken free and was trying to talk him through it. That or maybe his body is in a hidden base somewhere using stolen alien tech to hack the system and try and pull him out. Then the physical interrogation scene can be them giving up on tricks and just trying to get the information the old fashioned way.
+Chris McWilliams sounds pretty close to some "outer limits" episodes though, atm i have that one in mind where that earth pilot is a pow and his cellmate is slowly transformed into an alien hybrid thingie, to make him speak o.O
qu4dq0r3 Oh I think I remember that one. One of the really intresting things about the new "Outer Limits" (from the 90's) was how they would have the season ending episode where they basically recapped the entire season and tied it all together. I think they stopped doing it after awhile but it was cool the few times they did it. :)
Kaaaay....so I'm drunk during this comment, so I have no idea what weight this post holds...but...Dark City much? Just vaguely understanding the review and Phelous' commentary, my vodka-soaked brain is screaming "DARK CITY!!" at me. Anyone else care to comment? Lol
All things considered, I wouldn't blame you if at some point you pulled a George Lucas and ADR'd all of Doug's voice clips with fart noises. It'd definitely make his appearances funnier and less cringe-y in hindsight.
12:37 So the movie just abruptly ends before Ian kills Miss "pardon my tits"? That's just... disappointing... I mean I know most horror movies have open endings, but this feels like an abrupt stop and the screenwriter just ran out of movie.
The old dude around 10:45 mark looks a lot like the "Accountant" character from the newest pile of crap in the Hellraiser series (Hellraiser: Judgement). Even sounds like him too.
once again, phelous "Phels" to give an accurate review of said movie- this was a great movie, not so much on the horror but had great suspense/action across it ^^!!!
Vio The Demon it had to do with a bunch of demon-like beings that could virtually enter multiple lives and suck the fear or life out of people around them..... as "senseless" as that sounds on it's own, a lot of movies are senseless when you narrow down their story XP the movie was still good
Maybe you could explain then how the numerous plot holes (and nonsensical actions Phelous lists) are not plot holes and/or why you enjoy the movie so much that you can overlook the plot holes? Saying you found it good is one thing, but if you want other people to take that opinion seriously then you need to explain yourself more.
@@Ryodraco why I can overlook them (dk how I went this long without seeing this reply)- 1, the action is fun. 2- it has a nice sense of mystery behind it leading to the climax as you try to figure out what is going on. 3- it's rare if not impossible these days we get the monster playing the main character/hero as opposed to your typical "cliche evil monster" scenario- like seriously I can't even recall the last movie the monster was the main hero in a horror flick it's that rare.
These "Harvesters" are clearly supposed to be based on Shadow People, right? I mean, the whole feeding off fear thing, their looks, how obnoxiously annoying and pointless they are, it all fits.
why did they kill him the first time? he wasn't remembering anything or whatever, he was just whining abut hockey. and why did she be all "you never played hockey" instead of just going along with it so he didn't pick up that anything was strange? oh right because nothing makes sense and one minute they want him to remember but then they don't and omg this is bad lol
