The Forgotten TMNT Anime 

Wabuu: yes, I have known cats and even dated a kitten, so I know they are sooooo stupid. 🦝

Ooo I love it🤣 as much as the adorable take that he’s as lazy as a kitten so will do it later

It'd sound better if it was said as "I have the curiosity of a kitten."

@@NeoDragonCount well anything but what was actually said, it's far to confusing as to what he's trying to convey

It’s a culture thing

The foot soliders are human now?!

@@gracekim25 You don't have to be a human to enjoy a good vacation

@@ApexOceanPredator Hmmm well they seemed to do odd things in that game ….🤔

It's a Japanese pun that doesn't translate well into English. "Foot" kind of sounds like the Japanese word for "blown away".

@@ShinSeikiEvan Yeah that's stuff you'd really have to either have translator notes or really know Japanese culture to get that. That scene is definitely funnier knowing that. And I get the feeling a lot of the the jokes in these episodes just don't translate well.

@@ShinSeikiEvan Sounds like they could've translated it as something like "time to hot-Foot it!" or something.

Yeah, also "shit" is not so strong for them as far my boyfriend explained to me since he is Japanese, "kuzo" is not really strong they said it even in the Sonic X cartoon and I was little when I watched. These parts in french (the way I watched as little) were actually translated differently for not sounding too rude. Saying "shit" in French was too strong for kids so in the translation we had another meaning.

Half of the time someone is being called a swear in subs or dubs, they're just being called one of the impolite versions of the 'You' pronoun. There's just no good way to translate that.

@@YMasterS Yeah we've come a long way since the early fansubs of like the '80s/90's but it's true translating from Japanese into something like english takes quite a bit of the nuance out of it. Also there are a lot of little things that just don't work or translate or localize well. Not only with certain humor and puns and stuff but cultural stuff really is difficult for anyone outside of Japan to truly understand or comprehend. The whole politeness this thing is really baked into it and names and honorifics (I think that's the word I'm looking for) that show either respect or lack of respect or are things like a casual relationship are very difficult to convey if you don't get it.

@@YMasterS hmmm I guess that makes sense

That’s still pretty confusing to me but then again I’m not Japanese

Plus TMNT was inspired by Marvel comics like Daredevil and Super Sentai was made as a result of the success of Toei’s Spider-Man adaptation which then inspired both this and of course Power Rangers and The Next Mutation. It’s funny how things tie back each other if you dig hard enough.

it actually has more in common with saint seiya with the turtles having similar armor, to the pheonix ikki

i mean SAINT turtle?!!?! any 80s anime fan would catch the reference

@@redstreak9430 Sentai existed before Toei's Spider-Man. They just didn't have any giant robots until after that.

Wow

Yeah context is everything with some of these jokes. That and the cultural references which without translator notes would just fly over most people's heads.

Tell someone that THIS was Next Mutation and see if they buy it. XD

I'd have taken this version over next mutation any day of the week. Of course I also would have taken Powerpuff girls Z, over the atrocious 2016 version.

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I wish I could fave this 100 times because BINGO!

For example, it sometimes happen in Dr. Slump.

@@nousukas Kind of random and off topic, but would you happen to know where I could find a subtitled version of the original Dr. Slump anime? I've been wanting to watch the series for a long time, but I haven't found a subbed version. This is the only time Dr. Slump has come up in casual conversation lol.

So it's basically the Japanese equivalent of that American animation gag where a donkey appears over a character's face when they realized they were an idiot.

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Holy shit, I've been wondering about that gag for YEARS. Thanks for the break down.

@AT Productions Yep, in the last season, a demonic/mystical Shredder that Utrom Shredder was inspired by, but they never called him "Devil Shredder".

@AT Productions He was a tengu demon.

It also sounds like the name of a character in WCW's Blood Runs Cold angle

And of course because these are early 2000s translations it's kind of accurate and also full of swears.

So it’s a pun

Wolverine looking TMNT

idk at least they get how the characters are supposed to act and tone and jokes are almost on par with 87 cartoon. It's not like headmasters where they literally di whatever they wanted and turned the characters into weird and weak idiots

I was just thinking that the visuals aren't bad, weird designs for the super forms aside.

Yeah I was getting a weird cat vibe from the way they were doing the lines.

@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Well, it matches his personality then... apparently.

Like when they went camping in Arizona ? 😁

@@FrenchPaul1988 Or when they were getting down in our town?

Methinks they didn't have the budget for it.

I found you Lupin! You thought you could hide from Zenigata in the comment section, but you thought wrong! You’re under arrest!

@@dyl_pickle16-mta48 oh hey pops.

What’s normal to them is what’s weird to the west and vice versa

That explains why Krang refers to him as Sawaki chan.

Yeah, I remember Forever showed them in the Shredder's monitor screen showing alternate universes. The dragon modes for the Turtles and Shredder were also used as their ultimate transformation in the 2003 TMNT's Ninja Tribunal arc.

@@SwiftNimblefoot Oh yeah, I remembered that. Guess 4kids really liked that concept or something.

From what I've heard 4kids didn't really have all that much involvement with the 2003 version besides it being on their programming block. Which if I'm to understand correctly was just a period of time the network literally sold to 4kids. It explains why the show was so accurate because they had no real involvement with it.

Your not wrong, but all that other stuff the anime added just made it even more bizarre and weird.

@@Santoryu90 That's like adding sugar to an already sweetened beverage lol.

When our Blockbuster went out of business, I bought a few of their "rental only" DVDs. Most of them were normal, but one or two had unskippable ads/trailers before the main menu could be displayed. Obviously such functions would be impossible on a VHS. The ads always display, but they can't disable fast forward!

@@Swiftbow Yep, sadly except for a few exclusive games most exclusives were garbage at Blockbuster. I can't imagine being stuck with unskippable ads.

So true. Headmasters was the epitome of boredom, and Masterforce and Victory are not that much better. The bad dub at least made it mildly entertaining. PPG anime is just unfunny. Really doesn't add anything new to the show. And yeah, the metals line was a sort of Saint Seyia ripoff. Fun fact, the "Lost Season" of the 2003 show, the Ninja Tribunal, has these same metals dragon forms as the ultimate Chi powers of the turtles, and they fight the Tengu demon Shredder who can turn into the same giant dragon form as the metals Shredder toy.

​@@SwiftNimblefoot I do think they're both better than Masterforce, but only because they dropped the main problem with Headmasters. They weren't trying to follow an American sensibility when they were writing the series. Headmasters was trying too hard to be the first 2 seasons of the American cartoon, but slipping in some shonen anime tropes here and there. Where as, for all the faults of Masterforce and Victory, embracing the fact they were Japanese exclusive made the writing a lot smoother and far less awkward. Of course, both shows took forever to find their footing when Headmasters never actually got to. Still, not nearly as good as the Brave Saga or even Car Robots. I just wish Victory didn't have such an abrupt ending. As for PPGZ, they took a bog standard Magic Girl Warrior show and slapped the PPG license on it. It wasn't even a Magic Girl parody, but very much a straight up generic series. The whole point of PPG is that it's a super hero parody. I'd say that the closet thing Japan got to a TRUE PPG Magic Girl show is Panty Stocking and Garterbelt, even if it's for a different demographic.

The singer Hironobu Kageyama also did the second theme song for Saint Seiya. I agree that the Metal Mutants concept is a huge ripoff of Saint Seiya.

I don't know where you got the idea that the PPG fanbase "swears by" the anime, when popular opinion among the fanbase is that it's not great, just better than the 2016 series.

@@MathematicalVoid I'll be the only one to say this, but the anime annoys me a hell of a lot worse than the reboot. It was made at the wrong time by the wrong people for the wrong reasons for the wrong demographic. There was a fan fic understanding of the original, giving the series a photocopy of a photocopy feel, and I'd liken it more to, say The Simpsons or Family Guy when they get a new batch of writers after the old writers ruined the series a few seasons after it should have ended. PPGZ is basically a lame Tokyo Mew Mew clone with PPG names slapped on there. They had NO understanding of what made the original funny or special, not even the "I grew up with it and interpreted it as such" way. Just... and I do know fans that LOVE the anime and act like it's a parody when it's not even smartly written enough to be one. Actually, I'd liken it to Loonatics Unleashed, but without the apology of a second season where they fought versions of their own villains instead of the stock bad guys that could have been in any action cartoon at the time.

"Fantastic! The Mutastones turned us into birthday party entertainers, but only for a half-hour!"

@@brianhebert6152 alright the mutastones turned us into the universal monsters but only for an hour

@@bradendeems6845 "Radical! The Mutastones turned us into professional athletes, but only for 23½ hours!"

@@brianhebert6152 sweet the mutastones turned us into military personnel but only for an 2 hours

Let's extend it to knockoffs as well! "The dark lord be praised! The Mutastones have recrafted us as the Turtles Fighters, but unfortunately this transformation only lasts 1 minute"

Yeah I was also thinking that. Also it's often spelled with the kanji for "bloom", so maybe they thought it was a bit too cute for the villain.

A lot better!

That's not a high bar to cross at all though

It's par for the course.