TMNT: Out of the Shadows - Phelous 

"We're Turtles remember!" Well the CGI artists certainly didn't.

I remember leaving the cinema and thinking, "Well, that was terrible, but at least I can look forward to when Phelan sees it."

"Let's give Casey Jones short hair and never let him wear the mask" Zero Stars

"I hate Splinter" is music to my ears. I just can't help singing along to it.

The thing I find ironic is that Stephen Amell plays Green Arrow as this brooding vigilante killer, but plays Casey Jones as this jokey fun dude. It's like he'd be perfect for both roles, but someone switched them around.

Tyler Perry is the only person in this movie who seemed to actually enjoy being part of this movie

I very much appreciate the accurate portrayal of how awkward taking off stockings/leggings actually looks.

Breaking out all the classics with this one. “Michelangelo is brain dead” “I hate Splinter” and even “a new way”! Those never get old 😄

3:45 Ah, so the shout-out to TMNT's rich history that also gives some context to April's character outside of "sexy lady ally" was cut for time, but the scene where Megan Fox does her usual PG-rated striptease HAD to be kept in the movie? Priorities XD

Super Silly 1987 Animated Shredder: "Tonight I dine on Turtle Soup!" Super Cereal 2016 Live-Action Shredder: "Or not."

"You and I, we're basically the same person." No my dear, you're the far superior April in the movies

I'm not gonna lie. "They achieved the power of flight...good for them!" got a chuckle from me. but man, I didn't realize how much I missed the "Michelangelo is brain dead" jingle. also also them cutting the Judith Hoag scene is a SIN.

This movie seriously suggested that every human has a dormant gene carried over from our animal ancestors... yeah right, and even if that were true, our ancestors definitely WEREN'T rhinos or warthogs. XD

WOW this movie looks like an engaging, heartfelt, thoughtfully-written, clever and funny film the whole family can enjoy. or not.

"I hate splinter" gag is back! Ten out of ten!

Casey being a cop feels like something out a twisted mirror-universe, really

They come out of the shadows? But how are they going to finish their hip-hop Christmas album, bro?!

I wouldn't feel TOO bad about being mean-spirited toward the 1st Michael Bay TMNT. Apparently, Alan Ritchson revealed that the other Turtles' actors & himself were made to work overtime while Paramount used EVERY EXCUSE THEY COULD THINK OF to justify underpaying them! Paramount also later forbid them from talking to the press & lied to reporters by telling them the actors were REFUSING interviews! On top of that, they weren't even invited to the film's premiere!

I thought we'd never see "Michelangelo Is Brain Dead" again after Next Mutation. Nice to know it still has life.

Even 80's cartoon Shredder didn't trust Krang enough to actually build him a body without dragging his feet on the whole project

Probably the best change is, the Turtles, while still way too large and bulky, finally actually MOVE like ninjas, being fast and stealthy, not bursting through walls like the Hulk. I honestly forgot Shredder ever wore his armor, mostly I remember him just being weird bearded japanese guy in this movie.

When I first saw this movie my immediate thought was how Superfluous Shredder felt in the movie. You could cut him out and miss nothing. In fact I think it would flow BETTER without him. Stockman has more motivation to want to help Krang than Shredder does. Stockman wants Krangs technology for his dimensional research. Shredders motivation is "I'm interested" Maybe use the empty space of cutting out Shredder to give us another Turtles vs Bebop and Rocksteady fight or some actual build up between the Turtles and Krang instead of Donnie figuring everything out by science scanning one piece of the technodrome.

At least these turtles actually cared about each other (unlike the next mutation).

This film kinda undercuts some of what really makes the turtles work by trying to make it into a more conventional superhero film. One of the best aspects, imho, was how street level the turtles felt, they were most at home in the grungy, crime ridden alleyways of the city and often just kinda stumbled onto the more crazy stuff by happenstance. It made them feel very grounded and relatable (despite them being mutant ninja turtles and all), they often only had their skills along with whatever gear they managed to cobble together and the higher tech stuff being things they stole from the villains who were often more resources than them. You can see the same thing with Casey, in most versions yeah he's a bit of a psycho, but that was often paired with a Rocky Balboa-like charm, the Punisher on a budget as he's often described. Making him a cop, not even a former cop, erases that vigilante quality, the kind of guy that fights crime in the places cops avoid. April lack any of the scrappiness she usually has as the most "normal" character and is just bland and uninteresting.

I remember my mom being FURIOUS in the Toys R Us about Ravishing Reporter April. Not for the usual reasons parents got mad about toys, but actually because as I recall, she actually kinda liked the character in what she saw of the cartoon. I recall not exactly knowing what "Why the HELL is she dressed like a HOOKER?!" meant, but I recall my dad being unable to contain his laughter any longer after that.

Ah the “I hate Splinter” clip returns. How I’ve missed you old friend.

Genuinely can’t believe I’ve been waiting for this review for the past 6 years.

I gotta say, you having Shredder and Krang constantly acting like they're in a lengthy marriage counseling period is one of my favorite running bits with all your TMNT reviews.

The only reason I can think of cutting Judith's cameo was because Megan couldnt help but suffer by comparison. "We're basically the same person" yeah, but YOU were actually good at being that person.

The mutagen could’ve easily been explained as “turning them into the animal that best fits their personality”

Instead of the foot they should've had the turtles face a bunch of splinter clones led by a guy with a flower on his head.

Oh I am so glad to see “Michaelangelo is Brain Dead” again. Shame the movie isn’t the same tier of quality

The Bay Turtles films did have one positive impact. A case brought against them by the British Trading Standards authority established a precident that all films that overdo CGI have to label themselves as part animated.

I really love your reviews of things like Ghostbusters, TMNT, and Mortal Kombat. Not only are the reviews just a lot of fun to watch, but it's clear how much passion you have for the topics, and it adds another layer of charm to these videos. Also the Shredder costumes, both the old one and this one, are really nice

Honestly knowing how Megan Fox hated Michael Bay the whole way he treated her in his movies is a lot worse.

Casey Jones: What gives you the right? What's the difference between you and me? Batman: I'm not wearing hockey pads!

I just could never get over how they looked in these movies

Phelan callbacks are the best! 😂 “Shredded” and the stockings joke got me the hardest lol.

The thing that frustrates me about the design of the turtles in these two movies is that it falls into the trap a lot of Hollywood movies do-- trying too hard to go for "realism," at the expense of creating engaging, visually appealing characters. I think producers and studios (and to an extent even the designers and effects artists) worry way too much about trying to make things feel as "realistic" as possible. It's the same reason why for a while, costumes in superhero movies eschewed color, or were designed to look more "tactical" and less "comic-booky." (Like the _X-Men_ movies.) But audiences are a lot more open-minded than they might think. As long as the characters are well-written and likeable, most people going to your movie can and will go along with an "unrealistic" design. Once you fall in love with a character, the way they look doesn't really matter. I mean, the Sonic movie was a perfect example of that. The original "realistic" design was grotesque, so they redesigned it with a much more "cartoony" and unrealistic design that was closer to the source material... and people loved the character, so they went along with it. I know people try to blame the CGI, but I'm honestly all for CGI and motion-capture for the turtles since it can allow for greater expression and freedom of movement for the actors. But they easily could have gone for a design closer to the original comics, or even the 1990 movie, and I think audiences would have gone right along with it. It wouldn't have saved the movie, but it would have earned them a little more good will.

26:15 The point of Lego is that you can adapt your design whenever you want to suit your needs, that's opposite of "Useful in very specific situations", being able to change your weapon accordingly to suit the environment whenever you need is useful in almost every situation you can think of.

So basically they took away anything that might make April a real character, and possibly their only shot at passing the pathetically easy to pass Bechdel Test. Oh and nixed a great cameo in the process. Yikes.

Bebop and Rocksteady are this movie's saving graces if you ask me. They're still not perfect but I at least kinda enjoyed them. I'm not sure what they were thinking making Casey Jones a cop, and I still can barely stand the Turtle's designs, but (low bar) I liked it more than the 2014 movie. How the 1990 movie continues to be the best live-action TMNT version (and not even by a little, the margin must be measured in astronomical units) is a testament to how much care and heart that version had.

24:16 Raph: oh no it that dumb turtle that give Leo some new way nonsense

It's so funny that I thought you did a review of this movie YEARS ago and this was a re-upload, but watching through it, I'm realizing that this is completely new. I saw this movie in theaters and had such a mixed reaction. It was inching closer to being a good Turtles movie, but it still misses the mark in a big way. Great review, hilarious as always! The in-jokes that you can pull from with the Next Mutation and Bootleg Zones really elevate this one for long-time watchers

I was an extra on this, and boy, the shooting I was a part of was a very long night.

"Too Little Too Late" Might as well have been the subtitle of the film for real.

I always drop what I'M doing to watch new (PHELOUS) content.

Note: I think the shredder from the first movie was supposed to look like how he did in the 2012 version, you can even see the burns on his face.

I think it'd be cool to see you do a retrospective on the 2012 interpretation of the turtles because I find it my personal favorite

Apparently, Pat Fraley, the voice of 87 Krang, supported Brad Garrett’s Krang because of the fact that they’re best friends. Fraley And Garrett will be right back.

To give the movie SOME credit, I think that Mikey and Bumblebee are at the Village Halloween Parade, where that costume makes sense. The skeletons are one of the more recognizable images from that parade.

My favorite line: "I'm not living up to my full potential, Leo."

The Biggest Idoit in this movie is: *THE SHREDDER* For immediately teaming up with Kraang on a whelm and betraying Baxter Stockman for no reason despite him being a very reliable asset for the Foot Clan.

"See you in the third movie!" Don't jinx it, Phelous

Wow two Mac and Me references? You spoil us Phelous

Stephen Amell could’ve worked as Casey Jones if they kept the character similar to his previous interpretations. He’s proven he can do the vigilante thing well, but this interpretation just made him look whiny.

Lol your Krang voice and banter with Shredder is 10x better than the movie! 😄👍🏼

I also enjoyed Out of the Shadows much more than the first. This one was at least not ashamed to be associated with the TMNT brand. It's still dumb and not nearly as good as the original, but it's at least fun.

Shredder: …Or not. Liu Kang and Johnny Cage: Then again… Maybe not.

It’s ironic that much like with G.I. Joe: Retaliation, this film was meant to be a soft reboot as a means to stick closer to the source material, but it still ended up bombing anyways, lol.

Can we just appreciate the occasional displays of Canadian chest hair via Shredder cosplay on this channel?

4:14 I'm so glad you're keeping this gag 🤣

Can't wait for the third one where they introduce Leatherhead, Caitlyn, Prof. Honeycutt, Wilbur Weazell, Mona Lisa and of course Lotus

"Well, it's a jungle out there." Did you just make a reference to Monk? For those who don't get it, the actor who plays Splinter also played the main character in the TV show Monk.

11:06 Tien: "Look, I can see their parachutes, they're ok." 23:53: Raph: "DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!"

I love the idea of someone using the key to the city to get into any area and the city just accepting it cause otherwise what's the point of the key to the city if it doesn't come with perks?

Fun Fact: For some reason, On the Latin American dub, Rocksteady was voiced by then famous RU-vidr Werevertumorro. A practice that Paramount keeps repeating to this day like in Sonic 1 and 2 where Sonic is Voiced by Luisito Comunica.

Considering that the 2012 cartoon established that every iteration of the Krang are all part of one species, and that the '87 one is an incompetent exile, I can't help but wonder where the OotS version is in the Krang hierarchy.

It's AMAZING how no Turtles review feels complete without an I Hate Splinter or Michaelangelo Is Braindead anymore ^^' I love how many Turtles adaptations there are that suggest New York City is a sparsely-populated city that just HAPPENS to have gigantic, mostly abandoned buildings.

It maddens me to see Casey Jones be done so dirty. And apparently Fred Armisen was originally going to be Krang before he got replaced by Brad Garrett... like I'm seriously wondering how that would have gone.

I was not expecting the return of the classic "Michaelangelo is Brain Dead” gag, but it was a nice surprise and quite fitting too. I never saw either of these movies myself. The turtle designs and Michael Bay being featured in the marketing for the first movie were enough to turn me off from checking it out. It is strange that they got a different actor for Shredder only for him to not interact with the turtles in this movie and he seemed more like setup for both this movie's plot and some sequel baiting. It's also a shame that the scene with Judith Hoag was cut, if only because the April from the 1990 movie is one of the better takes on the character that I've seen from the different movies and TV series.

I recently watched this movie with my roommates (we also watched the first one, we like to have bad movie nights). I had some previous experience with TMNT (mostly the 03 show as a kid) and one of my other roommates had seen this movie and some of Rise of the TMNT so she was familiar with some of the weirder aspects of the universe (namely Krang). The third one really doesn’t know too much. So when Krang just sort of appears I was like “huh ok we’re doing this” while roommate 3 was like “wait WHAT is happening????”. It shows just how jarring Krang’s introduction is if you have no familiarity and how poor a job they do of explaining it. They definitely did it with nostalgia bait in mind mainly.

This new Ninja Turtles movie could've used Bonesteel, Dragonlord, and Dr. Quease in the cast.

20:55 The glorious return of the Michelangelo is Brain Dead joke 25:30 We're not Brothers and 24:15 A NEW WAY

Ninjas : the art of visibility Wait...

It would have been the perfect movie for me as a kid if had been released in 1989, with Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady, something I hated about the Golden Harvest movie. But, Shredder not really being in it in costume did suck.

splinter not doing much is an issue in most versions. I am suprised that splinter being older and in poorer health isn't used. that would be a decenet explantation to why he only does stuff in really serious situations.

I will give the Bay films this Still better than Next Mutation

I was caught off guard by how funny Michelangelo's flight comment was, made even better with the brain dead bit.

I'm so glad you brought your Shredder gag back again. Its one of my favorites whenever you do reviews on the TMNT. Everything else I liked else as well!

16:59 Sounds like something a scientist would say...if they had dial up internet in their brain.

I actually didn't mind "gross Krang" It's how I'd expect an Utrom to look texture wise

A very entertaining review, it had Bumble Bee, Batman, classic TMNT gags & new ones. Plus a lot of other fun stuff to name. I definitely didn't hate the movie, that said it needed more work. I also loved that Bebop & Rocksteady showed up in a TMNT movie! It had potential & not necessary wasted if explored in other incarnations, but one can only dream.

To be fair to the writing of Michelangelo, a lot of the "Michelangelo is brain dead" moments seem to coincide with emotional stress - it's like his coping mechanism for conflict in his family or hostility towards them is to become a cloudcuckoolander for a short time.

It's a good day when Phelous uploads a Turtles video.

I want you to get back to watch the golden films because I love when you do those videos. I love your sense of humor.

they cut a scene of the turtles saying "look! i can see their parachutes, they're ok!"

Stephen Amell actually would have been a great casting choice for Casey if he played the part more like Oliver Queen on *Arrow.* Instead, it's like he's going for Chris O'Donnell in *Batman Forever.*

Thank you for this fantastic review, Phelous! Don’t listen to Shredder; there’s no “or not” about it! I’ve never seen the newer Turtles movies (didn’t really want to; I was afraid they’d be awful - wonder where I got that notion??) so these in-depth reviews of yours are both entertaining and informative. I actually managed to catch this video within minutes of getting the notification but I was able to restrain myself from commenting before watching, lol. I’d hate to become one of those “first!” commenters! Anyway, thank you again for this latest incredible review. It’s always such a treat to see you cover a topic you’re deeply passionate about, and TMNT is one of my favorite subjects on your channel. I’m sure I’ll be watching this at least a few more times because I had kittens crawling all over my phone during a few parts, plus I just like rewatching your videos. They’re always so much fun, and I always catch something I missed during the first watch. Keep up the awesomeness, Phelous! You truly are the best!!! 🖤

Honestly, I never was a huge turtles fan, but this looks like it would almost be worth watching for the Bebop and Rocksteady scenes alone. But it also seems like the wet blankets they hired to play for April O'Neil and Casey Jones do a good job at counter acting any enjoyment one gets from the fun parts of the movie. It's just like the "human character" parts of the Transformer movies and the american Godzilla movies. You know? The ones that every single person who watched these movies hates!

I have a feeling you’ll like Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles more than this movie.

"Then things start to get ridiculous." That's a shame. They were doing so well up until now. The idea of Casey Jones wanting to be a detective, getting shitcanned and going vigilante, I think that has potential. They could have done something interesting with that. Like, his excessive violence is because he's mad at the system for not letting him get what he wants, so he takes it out on criminals. I'd buy that as an interesting take on the character. You could even make it so that part of what kept him from making detective is his temper and his willingness to just flagrantly ignore procedure, so he had this violent streak he was trying to hold back all along, making him a much more morally gray character who you know you can't fully trust, but the turtles don't have many choices on allies, so they get stuck with him. The fillmmakers don't seem to be aware that this is what they've stumbled on.

I remember saying a while back that I looked forward to Phelan reviewing the sequel movie and the review did not disappoint! Had me laughing the entire time. Thank you for more Ninja Turtle content, Phelous!

They really should have gotten the same guy who played Casey Jones in the "Getting down in your town" tour. Just some slob with a hockey mask and a new York accent. "I HATE GIANT BRAINS!! I'M WALKIN HERE!!" I hate missed opportunities! I think they're the worst!!

This movie adding all those characters reminds me of how the 2012 series stopped making new characters and focused making on updated versions of 1987 stuff.

I saw TMNT: Out of the Shadows online, so I didn't have to worry about wasting my money. But I saw the 2014 one at a screening so no money spent. Best way to watch these movies is for free 👍🏽

Even if he didn't really care for it, Phelous has to have multiple copies of "Out of the Shadows" in various formats.

One of the things that still upsets me? They throw Baxter in a teleporter, filled with garbage, and flies. An obvious set up for Baxter the Fly. And when Shredder is going to belittle him, he just calls him a footnote. You could have called him a fly!

The only interesting thing about this Krang is that this could be another Krang from Dimension X and not a "main" version of Krang.

22:54 I love this still frame of Mickey, he really looks brain dead with one eye looking at the computer and one...at the camera, a CGI creature is looking AT THE CAMERA, yup! Creepy.