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The Untold Story of Page and Plant in Japan 1996 - Post Led Zeppelin 1990s - Episode 12 

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@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Год назад
Interesting that Plant was all into this Led stuff again for the majority of the 90's, glad he was. You know Page will always be, Led was his baby😅
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Plant went back to the very same "prison" he criticized in the 80s. Money money money money moneyyyyyyy!
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories did Plant really need the money though? I'm sure he had plenty coming in from Zeppelin album sales royalties alone
@blacktulip3552
@blacktulip3552 Год назад
​@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories No, I'm sure it wasn't money - the guy is loaded! He just doesn't like going back to the past - He couldn't replicate the Robert he used to be in the 70s - and he'd grown up. That's why he doesn't relate so well to some of his early lyrics. Remember, also, the pain and sadness that dogged him in Zeppelin's last few years and the immense pressure he might have felt at the thought of what might be regarded as a Zepp reunion.. Don't be too hard on him JCM - one of his strengths is that he's constantly moving forward and exploring! Tea for One is one of my favourites and I loved all your fascinating details. Thank you! 😊
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Ok Black Tulip let's just remember i critize 90s Plant on hiw own fault with bashing other musicians and making derogatory remarks. If he "grew up" why go back to play so many Zepp numbers? His career 1981-1985 was great but if you think he was loaded by 1993 i think you should rewatch some episodes. He was financing both recording and touring from HIS own company. As he sold less amd less, touring was a Must but Page was his ticket for riches. We need to see these matters with a business hat on, or else you end up in Religious Fanboy avenues. The purpose of these series is to objectively look at the truth without dogma nor pedestals. Now Robert from 2005 on has been flawless and CONFRONTED his own demons as to being the first one to call out on his past BS (check his podcast). Plant was loaded after 1998. Before that he hustled. Yes he had Zeppelin royalties but also remember he has 3 kids, houses, exwife and all the costs from HIS lifestyles. Being a rockstar doesn't mean he stays frugal :)
@blacktulip3552
@blacktulip3552 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Thanks JCM - I'm always willing to learn, that's why I'm watching!
@luvbasses5487
@luvbasses5487 Год назад
I’ve heard John Paul mention in an interview once that changing tempos on a dime was something that many bands cannot do. It came easy to he and Bonzo though. Achilles and that intro-to-blues part at TFO opening are testament to this. Iron Man by Sabbath is another good example of it.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hey L.B the man himself! LZ's music is such a fascinating laboratory of telepathy. Thank you so much for watching!
@audiotomb
@audiotomb Год назад
Listen to any JPG/JB interaction live of NQ, D&C or any other extended jam. Charlie Jones couldn’t improvise, hence P&P were a tightly arranged affair
@luvbasses5487
@luvbasses5487 Год назад
Jose...I watch ALL your content...and love it very much. We’re very lucky to have you.
@luvbasses5487
@luvbasses5487 Год назад
@@audiotomb ...I know exactly what you’re referring to as I’ve been down here in the rabbit hole for about 40 years. I’m not a casual Zeppelin fan either. Jose will tell you...!
@GraachAhim
@GraachAhim Год назад
They had an orchestra and they wanted to perform a slow blues. That was the perfect ocasion to stage "I'm Gonna Crawl".
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I know right, but then think of the consequences, probably Lee and Jones screw up because of the subtle tempo....Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@paulschnyder938
@paulschnyder938 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting. Thanks 👍
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 11 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for the next episode!
@veronicajoseph7665
@veronicajoseph7665 Год назад
Love that john Paul Jones burn in the opening credits....the look on robert plant's face....it never gets old! 😂😂
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I dance to it now lol. I should do a remix right? Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@veronicajoseph7665
@veronicajoseph7665 Год назад
A remix would rock 😊 To be honest I really do like the way you took the opening credit music in a refreshingly not obvious direction. Nice work JCM. Do you write much electronic music?
@veronicajoseph7665
@veronicajoseph7665 Год назад
I also love the nostalgic snippets of adverts and tv 😀
@tparker2095
@tparker2095 Год назад
Great episode! My two cents as a drummer: Michael Lee was using a Marching Snare drum (used for marching bands performing on football fields). They're specially made to be over a foot in depth with very thick heads, tuned extremely high to give them a fuller/punchy sound to reach stadium crowds. The downside is they aren't made for subtle ghost notes and softer playing like Bonham often used. That's why the sound was so high-pitched and pronounced, I've never seen another drummer use those on a regular drum kit. Hope this helps!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you for sharing this. I am puzzled why would Michael felt the need to use i mean they had a killer P.A system. But yes high pitch snares is what turned me away from most modern Metal to be honest.
@mikeyii
@mikeyii Год назад
Only other drummer I’ve seen use one is Peter Criss on the 1978-79 Kiss tours. And they sounded absolutely terrible. Not meant for concert or mic’d up performances like a stage show - they’re meant for unamplified play on a football field.
@doctordetroit4339
@doctordetroit4339 Год назад
No doubt he Lee felt intimated by trying to replace Bonzo, and hence the need for cannons for the sound of his hitting, as well as him looking like the second coming of Clem Burke pounding away like he does. Most casual fans cite Bono's strength in hitting and his right foot as the traits that made him a legend and hard to duplicate, when it was his timing and creativity that set him apart, almost like a jazz-rock drummer. With modern PA systems, my granny can sound like lighting stinking on the skins.
@tieukhavu8832
@tieukhavu8832 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Michael Lee was a marching snare as a kit snare? Hopefully he was changing the snare wires, to make the snare sound more drum kit like
@j.a.191
@j.a.191 Год назад
It's almost like the strengths (and weaknesses) of this backing band was designed to prove the naysayers who felt like Zep was only fast tempo hard rock shit (and lacking in subtlety, etc) were right. Which is ironic considering that Jones and Michael Lee were Plant's guys but *they* were the one's unable to grasp the subtleties that Plant would later want to explore in all of his music going forward. Great work as always JCM. I view these Page/Plant things from a distance but I'm glad and grateful to examine them more closely and to think about what's odd or weird about them beyond reactionary *it's not Zeppelin is what's wrong with it* things
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
You make a great point here, this is so true, proving the critics of "you see, Zepp is all heavy metal man". UGH. The way they screwed up Tea for One is for me enough evidence of Plant's quest for POWER over anything else. I am glad he faced his own BS and changed for good. His version after 2010 is a much nicer man. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@johnmills2134
@johnmills2134 Год назад
Hey JCM, sorry I've been missing in action, I will back watch/listen to last weekend's gem. For you and your Zep fellow mates I found a suggestion - Frank Zappa does Stairway to Heaven circa 1988. You and the gang likely already know, us Rush fans are a tad behind the curve, eh. Merci for your wonderful work, everybody indulge in the 🎶
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad to hear from you! I love Zappa's version of Stairway, the 1988 band kicked a$$ Thank you very much for watching John! Stay tuned for more!
@christopherwilliams4552
@christopherwilliams4552 10 месяцев назад
Amazing insights as always. I almost went to the Tokyo shows, but last minute problems prevented me from going. I went to Sydney instead. I believe the Japanese shows are a revelation, and show what P/P could do when they were able to let their guard down just a little. I still think the 2/15/96 Tea for One is one of the tour highlights. Robert's performance has the measure of Song of the Siren from his 2000(?) US tour. And, IMHO, Jimmy was rarely better. Your focus on the ups and downs of its prior performances, gives additional meaning to Robert's "F'n great" accolade at the end of the song.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 10 месяцев назад
Oh too bad you couldn't go to Japan, but the Australian had pretty much a perfect set list. Tea For One was a great piece to attempt on stage. Robert looking at Jimmy like, dude you better get this right haha. I agree it's on the Song to the Siren spectrum, great observation. Yeah i try to present the good times bad times perspective, so we get a a complete photograph of these times. Glad you enjoyed this episode! Thank you very much!
@glerp10000000000
@glerp10000000000 Год назад
The two missing Poppies songs were written by Frankie Miller, one co-written with Andy Fraser of Free. Maybe some publishing issue ? Frankie Miller suffered a brain haemorrhage in 1994 which meant he was unable to speak or sing. There have been a few releases of Frankie's songs, to generate income for him and his family. Spike, of the Quireboys, did an album called 100% Pure Frankie Miller. AFormer members of the Quireboys are Michael Lee and Jason Bonham.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
This is fascinating stuff! Thanks so much for sharing. It sounds like a publishing issue 100%. Wish i could get a copy of this album! Thank you so much for watching!
@glerp10000000000
@glerp10000000000 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Thanks for making them. I've binge watched them all over the last few days. Just the Elvis ones to go.
@freedmarine
@freedmarine Год назад
I love the collect call commercials 1-800-COLLECT, 1-800-Call-ATT, etc. Like Robert Plant had NO EXCUSE not to call John Paul Jones 😂
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hahahahahahah nice, you are the first person to comment on this. Glad the concept came across!
@paweszczutowski1050
@paweszczutowski1050 Год назад
Thank you, Jose. I never gave too much thought about 1996 shows, but it simms like Page was in way better shape than in 1995. Once again, thank you.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Well said! Man 1996 Jimmy was way more relaxed, also his new wife gave him new found happiness in his life!
@tedwojtasik8781
@tedwojtasik8781 6 месяцев назад
I saw them three times in 95' and Jimmy was excellent each time, just nailed it. When I saw them in 98' though, whoa momma, they were on fire. IMO 98' Page was playing at an extremely high level.
@majedalamine4404
@majedalamine4404 Год назад
you know how much I love jimmy page from 1963 to the last note he played (will play?). I love everything he did, not because they were perfect, or great, or top of the world, but because they were human, very very human. Everything page has done is weak, strong, exacerbating, healing, shaken, steady, planned spontaneous, controlled, chaotic and everything in between. This is what makes my 2 favorite moments of him post zeppelin be the Japanese 1996 tour and the 1998 European tour. I don't know why but they are the embodiment of someone accused for years and years of being a God, but with a big doubt of being a fake god all at the same time. Yet when he is finally revealed not to be either of those things, but to be a human he actually comes across more beautiful than his God image. Those Rain Song/Tea for one moments, where he sounds like a fallen loser in one second and and a triumphing conqueror in another second of the same performance... They tell stories.. stories of life, humanity and the beauty of the duality of living. In fact there is no beauty and art outside this failure-triumph duality of life. Not just in music, but in our journey on earth too
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Euro 1998 was killer Majed, i agree! Quite a story they tell indeed. Wish Robert felt like that too you know?
@majedalamine4404
@majedalamine4404 11 месяцев назад
@abefroman3466 agreed
@paulhoughton5431
@paulhoughton5431 Год назад
Wow your research is just amazing Jose. Never heard these recordings, I hate the strings on Tea for one, I'm sure JPJ would have had something to say about that? I saw Michael Lee a few times in different bands, he was very good, but not sure he was the best fit for Plant /Page. Good to hear Jimmy playing well on some of the material. I think Jimmy has a love hate relationship with Ten Years Gone, they played it at Knebworth on the 4th, JPJ playing was perfect but Jimmy seemed to struggle, they dumped it for the 11th show which was a real shame. I was unaware that Phil Johnstone had passed away, Robert relied heavily on him in the 80's & early 90's, he never got the recognition he deserved RIP. Thankyou so much for this interesting series.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Always a pleasure to read your comments Paul. I'm glad this episode shed light on these historical takes on Tea for One. Michael Lee was a great drummer but yeah, not the best for Zeppelin, the problem was this whole thing started out as a Fate of Nations, i don't think he EVER expected to end up with the "almost Bonham" part. You're right Jimmy had a love and hate relationship with Ten Years Gone. Glad you enjoyed the Phil Johnstone part, i NEED that CD, maybe i will pay the 80 bucks for it in the near future, but maybe...lol. Thank you for watching! Episode 13 is out! Stay tuned for Episode 14.
@freedmarine
@freedmarine Год назад
Wow, wonderful episode. I can see you're changing your style up a bit. Rearranging some script structures, changing up the Fourth Wall breaks and using different time reference commercials. It's kind of like the shows from the 90s where content creators weren't afraid to make changes between seasons 1&2&3. Glad to see you're still finding new inspirations for creativity.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you noticed this FM! Maybe it's subconscious as the topic is a bit repetitive maybe i wanted to find new angles to it :) Japan had great shows !!! Thanks for tuning in, hope you have a great weekend.
@freedmarine
@freedmarine Год назад
When you cut Coverdale off before his vulgarity, the timing was like a scene of a drunk Troy McClure from "The Simpson". I spit my coffee out laughing ☕🤣💦. Cuz you just had that censorship policy explanation in the live streams.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hahahahhahahhah good to know. I just love David's overly enthusiastic banter.
@freedmarine
@freedmarine Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories and your analysis of the instruments used and the program of personnel on hand. Felt like a throwback to your episodes on Robert Plant's first bands with Phil and Cozy. Those parts could have been two separate episodes themselves, and as your community grows you'll be able to build teams to help with that research and script writing. Yeah, it was a dynamic episode that opens windows of opportunities for unique topics that can only be found on Your Channel.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
FM the personnel part i thought it could be separate but i just followed the timeline. Fun fact: these Page and Plant tour videos have been the worst performers of all my episodes lol. I guess it's just Unjonessed!
@67psychout
@67psychout 7 месяцев назад
I just watched this japan concert, it was really funny and great they could laugh at themselves in public. The hyper drumming of Michael Lee I never understood. He was all over the place.
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
Tremendous work, Jose! Having attended both the 1995 and 1998 Page/Plant tours, I look back at them this way: 1995 was Zeppelin thru the eyes of Robert Plant, with all the variation and reinterpretation he needed; where 1998 was Zeppelin through the eyes of Jimmy Page...stripped of the all the extra musicians, all the fuss, and back to the heavy Zeppelin electric sound. Both tours were amazing, but very different. Thank you Jose! Ernie
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Very well said Ernie! I dig the way you summed it up. Although by 1996 you can sense it's Zeppelin covers thru the eyes of Jimmy. Plant checked out in October 1995. His heart wasn't there, slowly walked into....Clarksdale?
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
As you know ... Zep was Jimmy's band, and he steered the ship. The huge success of Page/Plant and the growing transition back into Led Zep Lite had to make Robert uncomfortable. He didn't want to be a slave to the Zeppelin machine, and he spent the better part of 15 years trying to get out of Zeppelin's shadow. Robert was losing his independence and cut the cord before it got too late.
@CSCRECORDSBC
@CSCRECORDSBC Год назад
Jose! I don’t even like Led Zep that much ( well, I love JPJ ) but I LOVE your videos ! Hats off ! Cheers!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank You so much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 15 of the 1990s series.
@Von-Johnston
@Von-Johnston Год назад
Yeah Lee throwing page on the intro of Tea For One, he was just over thinking it, still glad they played this Gem and Japan is the perfect place to workshop it. I really wish we got a true LIVE record from this era, but lots of great footage out there by great people who care about the work, the music, the band and everything in-between. Well done bud
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
If they did it has to be Chile 1996, if that show was multitracked, it has to see the light of day. Maybe call it In The Chilevening! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@gregorytoddsmith9744
@gregorytoddsmith9744 Год назад
Awesome as always!! Thank you!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much for watching Greg!
@saurondp
@saurondp Год назад
Judging from comments you and others have made these last few episodes, I think people are getting a bit bored of this Page/Plant tour, and really, it's not hard to see why. It was a highly publicized tour, with bootlegs available out the wazoo, and considering that many of us lived through that period of time and even saw these shows live, there just isn't much "new" here. I actually think that fits well with the theme of the tour - despite the Unledded project, there really wasn't much new that Page and Plant provided to audiences at that time. Almost the entire setlists were Led Zeppelin songs performed by only half of the original members, which crucial ingredients (JPJ and JB) missing. In other words, an imitation of the real thing that was entirely rooted in the past with no clear way forward. I really wonder if Page and Plant came to that same realization themselves, which prompted their writing of an entirely new album (Walking into Clarksdale). And then there's John Paul Jones, the secret ingredient to Led Zeppelin's success... Anyway, don't be discouraged by the reactions and low views of these last few episodes, because the latter half of the 90s brought something a bit more interesting, IMO. Great work as always!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Not discouraged at all. Your comment is 100% spot on. It's funny because the reason i didn't wanna do the 90s was because of Page/Plant, the topic has been a challenge, the sameness of it makes it like Groundhog Day. Numbers speak for themselves and i find their lack of popularity quite conceptual within the Zeppelin story. For the next part i will make the Walking into Clarksdale and 1998 on separate episodes but now i think, in your opinion should i just do one full video with both?
@saurondp
@saurondp Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Glad you’re not getting discouraged! As far as what to do, I honestly couldn’t tell you. Just do them the way you want to and don’t cave to demands. I have no complaints about how you’ve been doing the videos, your work is top notch!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I am Grateful for Zepp fans like yourself, your feedback and comments help me more than you think. The good thing about finishing these 1990s Page Plant thing is that new topics are on the drawing board :)
@stevemora7845
@stevemora7845 Год назад
I like how you inners perse footage of what was going on in those years from sports to tv shows etc. throughout the documentary. Makes for a nice time capsule. 👍
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed THIS part of my editing. Some people here have stated it doens't make sense. So your comment made me smile. Thank you man! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
@brettjones4733
@brettjones4733 Год назад
Another awesome episode 🤘🤘 Thank you , I’m really looking forward to the Aussie episode, I’ve got desk tapes of both Sydney shows on Cassette and it was the closest thing we got to a zep show since the only time they toured in 72
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
While the Aussie tour was not visually documented like the others, there was a sense of happiness and closure for the band. I like the Australian landscapes man, they look like a planet within a planet! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@gregoryg3256
@gregoryg3256 Год назад
🌠 u always make good video's..JCM is the Best..FZ Joe's Garage (Mary from the bus ..remember...)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you Greg! I guess WARREN and LARRY liked Mary! Hahahha
@gregoryg3256
@gregoryg3256 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I'm alittle bit friendly with warren cuc...we bought a guitar from him..I am friends with his friend al maulkin..he's on joes garage..& was the Zappa's driver..we rock..good video again
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Warren is an awesome player man
@gregoryg3256
@gregoryg3256 Год назад
yeah my wife ..who passed in 2011 befriended him ..Duran Duran stuff , missing persons & solo stuff@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@dtw63
@dtw63 Год назад
Love your content Jose
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much for watching! After so many Page Plant stuff i really want to listen to Led Zeppelin hahahaha
@dtw63
@dtw63 Год назад
You rock Bro. I found a vinyl record store here I’m gonna hope to find you ya other INTTOUD ALBUM
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Oh man that's great news. Let me know!!! Haha
@dtw63
@dtw63 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I will.
@evanian1963
@evanian1963 Год назад
"There's still time to change the road you're on, right?" 😂😂😂😂
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hahahaha you know it! Thank You so much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 15 of the 1990s series.
@martinherts1967
@martinherts1967 Год назад
Another great episode! Forgot to mention, I remember tracking down the "Egyptian intro" music in its entirety, it is exquisite. When I was still gigging in the mid 2000's, we would always play half an hour of classic rock songs through the PA, and I remember burning a new CD to include the Egyptian beginning......at one venue we played regularly, I said to the Bar Manager could he lower the house lights as soon as he heard the first few seconds. Then we launched straight into Kravitz, Are you gonna go my way...... the rest of the band loved it and so did the folks attending. And it stuck that way until the end! Beautiful air of mystery! Keep rocking ☺️❤
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
That's great stuff Martin. It's a very good intro and i can imagine the contrast going into Kravitz had female fans singing Are you gonna Give me a backstage pass? :) Thank you so much for watching!
@ctcards2636
@ctcards2636 Год назад
Thank you again so so much for these videos. :-) Greatly appreciate the time and effort and being a musician myself, i really click with what your discussing etc. Cant wait for the next one. :-)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I really appreciate it. I won"t lie, it's been quite a Groundhog Day thing hahahah. Those 10 sixteenth notes on Tea For One would make Yes' 70s bandmates smile :) Hope you dig the next episode. I will publish it Wednesday most likely! Thank you so much for watching!
@ctcards2636
@ctcards2636 Год назад
Thank you again ! :-) Cant wait. @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@michaelgkrantz
@michaelgkrantz Год назад
Great job on this episode!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much for watching Michael! These Page Plant shows are starting to feel like Groundhog Day hehe
@mattgiovannucci3230
@mattgiovannucci3230 Год назад
Outstanding episode Jose!!! ❤❤❤❤. Not sure why these are not as popular as the other series. I think they’re just as good. Excellent content, great story telling, nice editing and the research is crazy good. I enjoyed it as always! Thanks brotha!😊😊😊
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
The man himself, hey Matt what's up! Thank you for watching this one. It's crazy right, these 1996 legs are not as popular. I think it does speak of the whole concept Page and Plant tried to sell and how the Zepp community knew better. I know it drew huge crowds, but it couldn't be Zeppelin, no matter how they said it wasn't...they played strictly Zepp numbers. By Australia 1996, you see the project needs to take a LONG break!
@danielvysocky2716
@danielvysocky2716 Год назад
I was fortunate to see Page & Plant at Madison Square Garden in October of 1995, and it was majestic. I actually wish they had dropped the "Whole Lotta Love" medley and incorporated more string and Egyptian orchestra songs then as they had done in Japan. Same for the Unledded album, I'd gladly substitute "Thank You", "What Is And Should Never Be", "Since I've Been Loving You", and "Nobody's Fault But Mine" for "Dancing Days", "Ten Years Gone", "Tea For One", and "In The Evening" as they were performed in Japan
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Yes Daniel, i'm with you on dropping the WLL Medley, it becomes redudant pretty quick. Your proposed songs are great! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@PlatinumBlack90038
@PlatinumBlack90038 Год назад
I remember that time in January/February during the winter of 1996. I had a sheet music transcription of ‘Ten Years Gone.’ The guitar solo was broken into six separate sections. The first three were correct as written and printed, but for sections 4, 5 & 6, I had to figure them all out by ear. 👂🏻 After successfully completing the study of the guitar solo, and finally learning how to play it correctly, it was right then and there that I was startled by a giant cockroach crawling on the floor of my rehearsal room in the basement of my suburban flat. It was the size and weight of half a baked potato. 🥔 I also remember going to shop at a Sears department store 🏬 at one of my local shopping malls ― to the tools department ― to buy a Sears Craftsman 11/16″ sparking-plug socket (which is different from a standard deep ratchet socket) à la Little Feat’s Lowell George. I ended up buying the deep ratchet socket anyway, and it worked out fine for me. I love the slide sound of chrome-plated stainless steel !!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Did the cockroach enjoy Ten Years Gone? Great story hehe! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@trevdowson5810
@trevdowson5810 Год назад
Your Led Zeppelin docs. are excellent, many thanks Jose, rock on.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very much Trev! Hope you did episode 13 on Australia!
@EasilyLead
@EasilyLead Год назад
Great episode. Definitely would have welcomed Ten Years Gone a few more times.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much for watching! Ten Years Gone made great use of the orchestra, shame they never came back. I guess rivers didn't reach the sea in 1996 hehe.
@Armakk
@Armakk Год назад
Tea For One comparison and analysis is pure gold... Thanx & keep em coming brother!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
You got it! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more! Not gonna say i lost respect for Lee and Jones, but man, was that Tea for One issue so REVEALING! hahahah
@merikblackmore
@merikblackmore Год назад
Very interesting thanks, I hadn't seen the videos of the 96 shows before. I think they also played Custard Pie several times in Japan.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank You for watching! They played Custard Pie on February 13th (Budokan), February 15h (Osaka), February 17th (Nagoya) and February 20th (Fukuoka).
@merikblackmore
@merikblackmore Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories yes that's my point, it's another rarely played song that they tried out in Japan 96.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
They made bootleggers happy :)
@kfw1205
@kfw1205 Год назад
I enjoyed this one more than the others, not sure why. Lol 💰
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hehe that's great. Thank you for your donation. It's been long editing sessions to make these. I feel like Groundhog Day a bit, going over the same set lists lol but you gotta love those Tea for One takes right?
@viscash3606
@viscash3606 Год назад
Excellent episode. Can't wait for the Australian part of the tour. Hope you were able to access the link so you could hear ANOTHER set list hahaha
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I was :) Man these set lists, i am feeling like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day hahahahahahah. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@brianroland5610
@brianroland5610 Год назад
Looks like the picture of Robert in the tour book is from American music awards black dog.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Kinda looks like it yeah, but it's odd that it would be the only 1990s pic on the Zepp part of the tourbook you know? Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@marciashiraishi5891
@marciashiraishi5891 Год назад
Thanks for your effort and dedication!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Marcia thank you so much! You rock! Hope you liked this one!
@Bootradr
@Bootradr Год назад
Great descriptions and I agree with what you had to say regarding everything on the 1996 Japan dates. And I did like that it wasn't as rehearsed and there were some flaws. I always liked that about Led Zeppelin and how they would recover from some mess ups without most people necessarily realizing there was one. I was really glad to hear Babe I'm Gonna Leave You and Tea for One on these shows they did them on. It did seem to be that they were feeling more nostalgic on these Japanese dates and they seemed to be enjoying themselves on stage more. Thanks for a great video and breakdown! Brian in Fort Worth 🎶
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hey Brian! Man thanks so much for tuning in. I will admit this Page Plant part of the story is getting a big Groundhog day lol. Can't wait to get to the rest!
@Bootradr
@Bootradr Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I hear you :-) I had to pull out some of those Japanese tour DVDs overnight and revisit them! It's been a little bit of time since I've watched any of those shows. I've always loved Ten Years Gone and I had forgotten they did that song also until I saw you mention it. And you're right! They really should have done that one as part of the regular setlist during 95/96. I'm looking forward to the Australian part coming next!
@mikeyii
@mikeyii Год назад
Want to know the problem with Lee and Tea For One? It’s the old formula of Zep being missing - Jones watching Bonham and Bonham watching Page. Lee could have listened to the CD for goodness sake and learned the riff and how the drums come in at that turn-on-a-dime moment. And then he’d hear Page do it live and follow it. Nice to hear he finally got it right :-)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
You said it best. This Unjonessed attempt needed JPJ and Bonham. I sense Michael was not focused enough, the slow numbers show he was more of a fast tempo kinda guy which is not surprising for his personality and salary. Bonham had EVERYTHING and then some. :)
@j.v.f.8736
@j.v.f.8736 Год назад
Ross Halfin said "I never thought that much of either Michael or Charlie. Michael was an okay drummer, but he was just a thrasher with no real finesse. And Charlie was just there ’cause he was Plant’s son-in-law. (...) Personally I think Jimmy put up with a lot from that lot".
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I think for once i 100% agree with Ross Halfin. I will keep saying this was Robert Plant's solo band featuring Jimmy Page AND Page ended up stealing the show. The only guy who kept Plant GROUNDED was John Bonham who was a fan of Page and Zeppelin. Robert is not a fan of Jimmy...he respects him but that"s diffefent.
@ced95570
@ced95570 Год назад
For me the japanese tour show a nice Tea For One version and a wonderful Rain Song interpretation.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Both great songs that Plant needed to get in the zone to go through so many emotions!
@garydavenport3321
@garydavenport3321 Год назад
Brilliantly put together 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 JCM!!!! As always!!!! Thank you for all that you pour into this!!! Much love!!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it Gary! Quite the travel to Japan this was, i'll be honest, i'm not sure i can take any more Wanton Song's live 1996 hahaha.
@justinparkerthewildwolf6394
Thanks JMC you sure do know your stuff. Your very generous with your knowledge and time. Respect from Oz mate.
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 Год назад
I should be used to your attention to detail by now but it still astounds me. The Phil Johnston detour being just one fascinating example and a beautiful tribute to the man. On this whole Page/Plant part of Zep history you’ve really lifted the veil and gone deep. Plotting the tours and set lists is one thing but lifting the lid on how feel, performance and inter personnel relationships on and off stage change season upon season is a different kettle of fish. You do it so well as always. Great to learn that they revived “Ten Years Gone”, why this number was played so rarely has always been a mystery to me. We’ll always have “Listen To This Eddie” and I’m still so appreciative that they played it for me at Knebworth. Of course with “Presence” being my favourite album I’d have loved them to have added “Tea For One” at Knebworth. Although I couldn’t get tickets for London ‘07 I think it’s addition to that set list would have been the icing on the cake after the glorious “For Your Life”. Hearing these clips in this episode is the first time for me. Such a shame about Michael Lee; I know that both Bonham Sr and Jr could count! Jimmy sounds fantastic on these clips capturing the sound and spirit laid down on the album. Out of interest did you and George nail the transition first time? I bet you did. From what I hear I totally concur with you, the strings detract from it, and as much as they added a whole new level of drama to “Since I’ve Been Loving You” they sound an unnecessary effort on “Tea For One”. Another triumph, thanks Jose for all your continuing work and dedication.
@kocinski8734
@kocinski8734 Год назад
Great episode again. Glad to see you're a The Office fan :)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
A fan of both the U.K and U.S Versions. While the UK is better in my opinion, Steve Carell's delivery of the character was Iconic.
@kocinski8734
@kocinski8734 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories yep, the UK version is better ... but the US version is more watchable. Try to catch BBC's Detectorists if you haven't already, I think you might like it.
@caramanico1
@caramanico1 Год назад
Wow, and I mean WOW!! I know that artists release only their best stuff - even sometimes redo live tracks in the studio - but to hear Page and Plant just flat out f__k up this badly...
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
They certainly had Tea for One after the show, pretty sure Plant was like WTF hahahahah. Thank you very much for watching!
@keitha.563
@keitha.563 Год назад
The Rain Song is not easy to play ... I can't play it worth a damn . I wish Robert sang the songs in more of the structure with the records not always I don't want Rush .... But even in Zep he just would not sing the right structure. Voice problems aside he could of done better . There is a version of Over the hills during these tours they played the song just like the album. Page is a master at his craft he was on fire throughout 2000 the black Crows concerts too . They really fkd over Jimmy . Ughhh makes me mad . And Jimmy was Mad he was trying to find them after that debacle. Jose great vid as always ✌🏼✌🏼🤘🏼
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Yeah those Plant ad libs are quite...the acquired taste i guess? Black Crowes sound was great yeah...wished Page got unknowns instead! Thank you for watching :)
@nostairway
@nostairway Год назад
Robert's singing out of structure is a bless one of the things that makes every take of the song he does unpredictable & interesting, it gives breathe to the song.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I like it on The Rain Song. Not so much on Since I've Been Loving You! Hehe
@nostairway
@nostairway Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories my condolences - SIBLY is a quintessence of that :))) and i would like to thank you for "exercise in restraint" - top-notch definition of Tea for one
@ukguitarnoodle
@ukguitarnoodle Год назад
This was great, but not long enough............that's what she said!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
HAHAHAHAHHA The Michael Scott School of Business
@MrJimmyn82
@MrJimmyn82 Год назад
great episode! shows Jimmy is only human on yje rain song mistakes :)
@JP-hs6ii
@JP-hs6ii Год назад
The photo of Plant you referenced in the Japan tour book is Michael Lee's kit. The snare drum is much larger (deeper). Something Bonzo was never seen using.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
It could be the thing is this page had Zeppelin era-only photos. What i see in the back seems to be Bonham's 1969 Tom Toms! Thank you so much for watching!
@Zoso_ro8wi
@Zoso_ro8wi Год назад
Looks like a photo from their 1995 hall of fame induction. Robert is wearing the same shirt as he wore in the revised Black dog video. Great episode JCM. I really enjoyed the Japan shows.
@davewestner
@davewestner Год назад
5:06 that's Michael Lee's kit in that Plant photo. Bonham never played a snare drum that deep
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
That is not the snare Dave hehe. I can send you the picture. That's one of Bonham's tom toms. That page has Zeppelin era-only!
@davewestner
@davewestner Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories well, the page is listed wrong then. That's Michael Lee's kit. Nobody mounted toms on cymbal stands in the late 60s/early 70s. George would back me up on that. BTW, i havent finished watching yet....have to race out for a gig...only caught the first couple of minutes but liking what I've seen so far. Will leave my usual ramble when in the next 24hrs after I watch the rest!
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Год назад
Wow I can't believe Robert called Jimmy out on his mistakes on the Rain Song, how embarrassed Jimmy must have been before that anyway
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Yeah, it's just that Jimmy's mistake was so epic, in such a vulnerable part of the song, it's like going on a date and farting long over dinner i guess. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for more!
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 11 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories really surprised Jimmy would make a mistake like that on a song He's played a million times, they say he wasn't on heroin anymore at this point either so not exactly sure what's going on
@theroseguy7
@theroseguy7 Год назад
This is great. Where does one find these full concerts in Japan? were they ever released on DVD are they all on RU-vid?
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hey Roseguy! Glad you enjoyed this Japanese Adventure. Most concerts are here on RU-vid, others i had in my personal collection. I definitely recommend watching the ones with actual video as opposed to the audio only. February 6th and 13th at Budokan are great. Because i went through so many shows for the 1995 episode i didn't want to repeat myself but please check them out at max volume!
@theroseguy7
@theroseguy7 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Thank You Sir I'll check the out and do some searching for these concert performances.
@christopherprim1973
@christopherprim1973 Год назад
This was also the bad hair decade for pudgy Page. It's like the Ritchie Blackmore frizzy frazzle from the 70's. At least Jimmy's is thicker. OMG, I am the worst critic. Don' let me on other channels.I love these 'other old songs'. This is what I wanted at O2. I didn't know they broke them out in the 90's. Of course I'm the guy who wants to hear all of The Rover, not just the intro.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I know which Blackmore hairstyle you mean, it was bad lol. I also wish they played these at the 02 Arena. The more i watch this stuff i realize this was their only shot at making MILLIONS like this while keeping Jonesy out of the equation to keep expectations low and manageable. From a business standpoint, i don't see ANY other way to make bank.
@christopherprim1973
@christopherprim1973 Год назад
makes sense@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@Mike-Olds-1
@Mike-Olds-1 Год назад
The whole P/P era to me just really showed how without Bonzo and John the magic was gone.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
100%. Having Jones on board at least would have...nevermind, we know the answer hehe!
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
I was at both the 1995 and 1998 shows, and I can tell you first hand the 1998 P/P show in Boston is the best rock concert I've ever been to....and I have literally attended hundreds of shows since the mid 1970's.
@tommyob4762
@tommyob4762 Год назад
You probably never seen a show. It wasn't supposed to be zeppelin and Page/Plant was the best show going at the time. Jones had his own thing going with Zooma and Thunderthief albums and I saw a couple of those too.
@Mike-Olds-1
@Mike-Olds-1 Год назад
@@tommyob4762 I saw a show on the 95 tour.
@glandelectro
@glandelectro Год назад
Consider: if Jimmy wanted some delicate acoustic moments (Rain Song), how about Bron yr Aur (not Stomp) leading into Friends. They both employ the same guitar tuning. Don't think we've seen Bron yr Aur since September 1970 (live, that is).
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Oh nice! I can picture this, maybe Bron Yr Aur is such a fantastic piece of music!
@bryanbahantka6969
@bryanbahantka6969 Год назад
Played Wonderful One for my ex girlfriend from Florida as she was driving me to the airport Doubt she acknowledged it lol
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Quite a B Side selection there hehe. It's a good driving song.
@bryanbahantka6969
@bryanbahantka6969 Год назад
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I was being emo lmao
@walawala888
@walawala888 Год назад
Epic series. One thing that you reveal is Plant’s self-effacing humour which I find a bit cringe but his total amused mastery makes him pull it off…barely.
@poitor492
@poitor492 Год назад
a few errors here and there is way better than a brilliant meatloaf show 😅
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Bat out of TEA FOR ONE! Maybe Michael Lee was thinking of Meat Loaf hahahhaahh Thank you for watching! Episode 13 is out now! Stay tuned for Episode 14.
@christiancazabonne
@christiancazabonne Год назад
Yo creo que John Paul Jones estaba en su casa con unos muñecos Vudú para que ellos no pudieran tocar The Rain Song y Tea For One bien, jaja!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Jahahahhahahahhahahah EL MEJOR COMENTARIO hasta el momento. Me hizo el día Christian! Ya estoy sintiendo un efecto como Dia de la Marmota editando videos de la gira Page Plant!
@christiancazabonne
@christiancazabonne Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Jaja, no pero es que es verdad, bueno también la falta obvia de Bonham: Ellos dos eran el motor del grupo. Y tienes razón: Como omitieron Ten Years Gone del Unledded? Misterio...
@freedmarine
@freedmarine Год назад
Nagoya!! 🧙🎸 🎌🪶🎤
@MustangRed1967
@MustangRed1967 Год назад
Tea for One is in my top 5 Zep songs ever. These versions, um , meh to say the least. Ok I know you want to know the rest of my top 5.. well in no particular order. Tea for One, Kashmir, That's the Way, Levee Breaks, Achilles Last Stand.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Wow man, that's quite the top 5, love the fact That's the Way is there, one of MY personal top 10 along with Levee. Can't go wrong with your list really, it's very very good. Thank you for watching! Episode 13 is out now!
@isaacshaver6218
@isaacshaver6218 Месяц назад
Should of let Pagey bring Jason along Robert....he wouldnt of made that mistake in "Tea for One" once, let alone 4 nights in a row. And idk, but i think Jimmy should of had final say on the musicians to be included, but this goes to show how much the power dynamic had shifted in the LZ universe.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 28 дней назад
The power dynamics shifted after July 1977 indeed. The post Led Zeppelin years are fascinating but you can't help to think so many what ifs!
@isaacshaver6218
@isaacshaver6218 27 дней назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories so tru
@BarryHawk
@BarryHawk 4 месяца назад
Doesn't seem right that Bonham and Jones only got one writing credit on Presence...
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 4 месяца назад
Yeah it's mindblowing to think they didn't....Achilles wasn't written by Page and Plant only, no way!
@freechordsthetruthmarceden8277
Interesting occultic fact: Jims lake placid strat, that exact blue', is the colour frequency: 6.66 Ask the rich in Maui brother 😵
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Uh oh. You're scare me man! Lake Satanic not good.
@christopherprim1973
@christopherprim1973 Год назад
JCM, what's your issue with Lee's snare? Too tight or too loose? Ahahahahaha! Precious. Good fun. Yeah, no one replaces Bonzo. How you stick with a 4 or go back to it was always amazing. It's Black Dog again, and The levee keeps breaking. Jimmy always liked a hard attack. If you listen closely to Over The Hills and Far Away, he drives the rhythm forward without a measured pause to keep the timing strict. And I've had a drummer ruin a gig. It's not funny. My stuff was much easier. He just went into jazz mode. Ho Lordt.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
The snare sounded like a goddamn tin can! that's my issue with it lol.
@7ate992
@7ate992 Год назад
😊 Dude, showing commercials from a specific era doesn't really take the audience back to that point in time. Commercials all look very similar for decades
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Dude Thank You :) Batteries not included.
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