This New Ram HD Rebel Costs $23,000 More Than Our Ram Cummins - Is It Too Much? 

There was a time back in the 80s and 90s when you could buy a truck for less than a comparable car. The truck was built better and would last longer than the cars at the time.

@@holdenc3082 I always upgraded radios due to liking to add more sound, now if you consider it there is so much more you'd need to do because of how much they integrate into the unit. simpler times

Entry level trims are just as expensive with inflation as they were 30 years ago. People complaining that a truck with every single option isn't affordable are dumb

@@Mills117 I always could pick up a cheap truck. $1000 for example. Now try finding a great truck for that.

@Jacob Short are you telling me you could bye a nice truck 30 years ago for $1000?

But it has cool mirrors. Seriously that was the first thing he mentioned after 91k$

@@stinkyelk986 manufacturers are pricing these trucks out of the reach of the average buyer. They expect everyone to do 84 months financing as standard anymore.

@@davidyackell yes they are. The issue is they make more money catering to the rich.

@@stinkyelk986 it’s not even the rich buying these. It’s mainly middle class joes who play keeping up with the jones. Which is some what fine if you have discipline and only make a few big purchases but most have no control over expenses so yeah.

And an additional Honda Civics worth in cost. I’m not seeing it. I don’t think people actually go off road in these, they just want to look like they do.

@@phild9813 This is actually very very TRUE! The ONLY off-roading I see here in Western Canada is the slipping and sliding I see on the Coquihalla Highway or the Whistler/Blackcomb Sea-to-Sky Highway on the two inches of plowed-down snow cover as people drive to their Whistler Ski cottage or Lake Okanagan weekend house and the requisite Ice Wine wine-tasting festivals! I have never seen so many shiny brand new GMC Sierra Denali's and F450 Superduty Duallies with barely a spec of ice or dirt on them as when I drive to Kelowna or Whistler! Around here in much of Western Canada, the old-money vehicles of Cadillac Escalade, Mercedes GL-series and Porsche Cayenne have been REPLACED almost entirely by New-Money Luxo-Barge GMC Sierra Denalis and Ford F350/F450 Platinum and Limited Edition Duallies! They MIGHT be used to pull the odd Horse Trailer and haul the new Subzero Fridge or Inflatable Hot Tub but that's about it for the "work" they do! I would say 85% are bought for interior luxury features rather than actual work and off-roading! If I drive to Calgary, only then do I see the "plebe's" F350 King Ranch editions doing actual work and even those are mostly pulling a goosneck witth 10 tonnes of hay for their show horses! Big trucks are the NEW versions of old-money Rolls Royce and Bentley! V

Yyc all the way

@@phild9813 Most don't but some do. I take my 2022 F-350 Platinum Tremor off road every weekend! Getting desert pinstriping sucks but it is what it is.

And "coil" springs????????????????????????????????????????

Hey! That’s my favorite pass time now😉

Don’t forget the $600 oil changes 💪🏻

Dam, that’s a lot of fuel. Enough for over 1600 miles a week.

@@johnnyburgess1989 how man time the oil gets changed

lube or no lube, its going to hurt either way

Merica: get those monthly payments up.

Not long ago you could get a 4x4 diesel for 45-50k , 4 years ago!

My wife and I make just shy of $400k a year and while I could buy one of these trucks, I can’t say that I could truly afford it. They can keep it.

@@holdenc3082 Crazy thing is, the majority of people who "finance" these are making a 1/4 of you and your wife's income.

The only way I see these being reasonable is if it's used for commercial work.

Maybe you can pick up a good deal on your favorite repo 🤔

Ten year (or longer) loans

@Trevor Huisman Yep. My wife and I are in the top 5% of household incomes. But by the time we max out our retirement accounts we are far from rich. No way could we truly afford one of these trucks even though technically we could buy one cash. Most of the people driving around in these things are up to their eyeballs in debt. Imagine a $1k+ monthly car payment.

You lucky SOB! I want one so bad…all black level 3 but that 80k is insane

2022 and Uconnect 5 it switches driver profile with second seat position. PITA!

I have it set up like this I named the tow profile”moose mode” haha it does work great

Good tip . Never thought of that

You'd be surprised an optioned up tradesmen cost more than a lower spec bighorn. It's not necessarily about the trim anymore. It's about the options to the cost.

@@Rommer2258 true, depends what packages you want to add so you have to play around and see what comes out ahead. Still even a moderately equipped Tradesman has more features than an SLT from the the 3rd gen. Whether that’s good or bad depends on the buyer’s needs and their budget

@@vr4787 The price is also over doubled for a tradesman compared to a third gen SLT. It's just getting out of hand. Plus RAM should not have increased their prices within the same model year

That's what I did

@@Rommer2258 I know, my pop got an 07 Ram 2500 5.9 Cummins SLT Mega Cab for $35k new, which would be $49k with inflation. Truck prices are just way out there.

$1,600 a month truck payment

Same here. I was the only one of my friends or family that started driving Rams about 13 years ago because of what you got for the money. Now they are no different, and while I still really like them they are still using the 4th gen cab on their HD trucks. Smaller back seat and the big hump in the floor. When you have kids and a large dog that back seat is a no go. I will likely go back to Ram once they finally remedy that.

If that’s bad just imagine home prices 😂

...and more expensive oil changes, spark plug changes and cost assuming this is a work truck (typically run higher because of the thought a "business" can afford it).

@@Arabian1967Knight doesn’t have spark plugs. Doesn’t cost much more to Service.

“I did that”

@@Arabian1967Knight imagine never having owned a diesel and speaking like if you know diesel engines 💀 and saying it has spark plugs 😂 and you do know diesel engines last longer, can tow more and are more economical

@@edgarrodriguez5436 just knowing the maintenance for a diesel is more expensive. Now prove me wrong and stop being a #/&$@.

The next thing that they're doing is banning fossil fuel vehicles, so the EV prices will skyrocket along with used vehicle prices

How is this not a real truck

@@johnmeeboer6044 they ain’t no 90s work trucks who take a beating and don’t give a shit

What you mean get you a body?

@@SuperDuty250 cab body

You get a 370hp Cummins and a grill. What a deal! 🤣🤣🤣

The cummins cost is 25k alone.

A mirror swap a grill swap and slightly larger screen both have leather both have most of the same functionality maybe the rebel has different rims ... all this shit is beautiful but I don't need anything more than a basic truck ,

In 2019 a local dealer had a 1500 quad cab 4x4 Hemi for 36k. I should have bought the truck then .... the prices are 100% insane now !

Bighorn isn't the cheapest

When I checked into it. They said that I could but I would need to get an adapter harness for the halo lights

At 200K, it better wipe my azz for me.

Lol

I’d say TAKE MY MONEY to that one 😂

Yes it does, I put sand bags in my bed directly over the rear axle

Good set of all season snowflaked tires or even better winter tires I find does the trick for winter driving. No need to put weight in the box. Turn four wheel drive on when taking off and put her back in two wheel drive when at speed. That is unless it's a bad snow storm then four wheel drive does the job. I like BF Goodrich KO2 tires. Quiet, excellent ride, tackle rain, snow, sand, mud and asphalt with ease.

And more capable.

I'm in the same boat. I bought a 1500 Big Horn at the end of '18 and could've had a 2500 with all of the same options and a Cummins for 6k more. Damn wife!!

Wow, I could not agree more. I have a 96' jeep cheroke xj with lights that I might need to replace with how not bright they are. The worst thing is when I'm driving, and I know a new car at night, because of the ridiculously bright led headlights. What's even worse is when some people drive with their brights on around town. There really should be a limit on how bright lights can be, because it's definitely a saftey issue.