Can everyone just enjoy the music for what it's worth? Christians, instead of getting offended by discrediting comments, do what you are called to and pray for those who make them. Cuz you sure as hell ain't gonna lead someone to Christ over online arguments (that'd be a miracle to tell). Just be thankful that Dustin/Thrice has been able to reach non-believers with their music and hopefully get them thinking about the everlasting God. God bless you THRICE. Come back soon and make more music.
"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing." 1 Corinthians 13:1-3
its about having knowledge of everything, having many powers, being able to move mountains, live immortally and see all material fade except for love. the trade off not being able to love or give in to desire or commit sin.
@opensecond I didn't have enough character space :( Vheissu: Less angry and angst-y, but still heavy, but one of the biggest key additives of this era was songs that were ALL about emotion; just quiet, acoustic-like, and very relaxing (Atlantic and Red Sky). The only negative thing I can find with this album is the fact that Image of the Invisible got them recognized. I feel really elite being a fan of Thrice at this degree; anyone should: they're not mainstream~!
When people say the old thrice is better they are not talking about what they play at shows...they are talking about what they are writing and putting on their records now...the old Thrice is very very different so you are going to have people who do not enjoy this new style...why care so much about what other people think anyway...you like em...that is all that matters.
Where did the old thrice go? Last I remember it was right where I left it in my music archive. This is song is beautiful. It is my favorite from this album.
This song must be somewhat related to Alden Nowlan's poem "The Word" (that I cannot find on the internet for some mysterious reason...) I think the poet wrote his poem with inspiration from the bible quote above though, just like how this song was written. I'm writing an essay for a poetry class now on all of this. So beautiful.
many people who i talk to believe that the song mainly derives from 1st Corinthians, but others debate this evidence. In my opinion, its too coincidental to exclude the fact that Dustin did in fact use scriptures to explain his love, especially due to his sarcasm of not knowing the first thing about "love." He explains that he does what he does with the "wrong intentions," when sarcastically saying that he writes music because its actually his greatest love, (that is besides his family)
I Corinthians 13:1-3 is basically the songs lyrics but it doesn't necessarily be religious. It pretty much states that you're nothing without love. Even in the Bible it says Love is the greatest thing one can have. It's above all else even hope and faith. (I Corinthians 13:13)
It's clearly a record of the event that took place, it's not condoning. The context of that is Lot and his family were leaving Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot was too afraid to go to a town called 'Zoar' so he stayed in the mountains, his older daughter got him drunk and slept with him. Then the older daughter said the younger should do it to 'preserve' the family line, and she did. Hopefully people will look at context of the writings. - @frankenmosh1781 & @MrUrmother22, *face palms*
@beandip2014 Actually Dustin Kensrue isn't religious, in fact he claims that he "Just likes to read" and one of the many books that he enjoys reading happens to be the Bible. You can look at this song anyway you want to, but it does not have to be religious. The song is pretty much about wanting to be a better man, he just uses quotes from the Bible to do it.
@finchisgod Dustin is the worship leader at Mars Hill Church in OC. So there is no doubt that he is religious. But I definitely agree that you can look at the song any way you want to, which is why I get frustrated when Christians sometimes take Dustin's lyrics (although biblically based) and try to and use it as a foothold to force-feed Christianity. I do not think that's how Christ would have done it, and I'm pretty sure that's not how Dustin would want it either.
@lovebrittney6 Though I have the gift of tongues/and can move mountains,/my words are nothing/compared with yours/though you only/look up from my arms/and whisper my name./This is not pride/because I know/it is not/my name that you whisper/but a sign/between us/like the word/that was spoken/at the beginning/of the world/and will be spoken again/only when the world ends/This is not that word/but the other/that must be spoken/over and over/while the world lasts/Tears/laughter/a lifetime!
@DoctorSneakynipples I agree. I think religion is mankind's scar. However, Dustin Kensrue reads the Bible a lot. And while Thrice is not a Christian band (and they will admit that altogether), Dustin's lyrics are heavily influenced by the Bible. And, agnostic as I am, I think they're pretty damned great lyrics. Dustin is a Christian. I'm an agnostic, and I love his lyrics even though I know many of them are inspired by the Bible. You can't deny that he's a great songwriter.
I hate when everybody tries to prove a different era of Thrice was better. None is!: First Impressions: Wel, c'mon, it's their first album, and they still rocked ass! Identity Crisis: experimentally punk, wide music spectrum. illusion Of safety: Still punk, but much more mature. AITA: less punk, more rock, very mature. Alch. Indexes: The amazingly risky and perfected switch from rock to prog rock. Beggars: relaxing, yet powerful and mature. And throghout it all, their lyrics are inredible
I wonder if the old fans know he is singing scripture - and from his heart, without mocking it. I don't imagine MANY Thrice/Dustin fans are the Bible reading type.
Who cares if he is religious or not? The point of the matter is that he is OPEN MINDED. He doesn't care what religion you are as long as you come with peace. Honestly miss this band, hope they come back with another amazing album. Loved meeting Dustin too and on top of it, proud Pagan right here and Dustin talked to me more than all of the fans in Montreal, he even walked me to his bus and ignored 200 people just to finish our conversation and to sign all my stuff.
@cykoaudio777 Congress & Supreme Court still pray everyday before session,Judeo-Christian ethic intrinsic in founding fathers philosophy written into the pillars of our country-all the first hospitals/ schools in this country started by the church,not to mention Christians being the first in Haiti,Africa/S.America/Asia to bring medical aid,schools/civilized culture to remote tribal areas,& Christians being the biggest charitable demographic in the world out giving our own gov't in Haiti/Katrina
These lyrics were directly influenced by 1 Corinthians 13:1-3. DK writes his lyrics based on his influences. I'm agnostic, and I have no problem with him writing biblical lyrics.
@cykoaudio777 Please always proof read what you post, if it doesn't feel right or sound right when you reread it then don't post it, also trying to sound more intellectual than you are typically gets you in trouble... Look at myself for example =)
WHY do the comments on every thrice video (or any music video) always seem to drift into a fucking ridiculously obnoxious argument on the existance or non-existance of a god? this shit is pissing me off. No one here is going to convince anyone else via a freaking youtube comment, so just shut up & enjoy the music. PLEASE
Genesis 19:34-35 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. Lucky for you the bible is okay with incest. Have a good time.
