What’s the Best Red Light Therapy Device?

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The Kineon Move+ Pro (formerly known as the Kineon Move+) and the Recharge Health FlexBEAM are two red light therapy devices I’ve been using over the past few months to speed up muscle recovery after intense workouts and to treat joint and soft tissue injuries. While both devices appear to offer similar benefits and have a comparable form factor, there are crucial differences in their effectiveness. In this video, I’ll compare these two red light therapy devices side-by-side and point out the pros and cons of each gadget.
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0:00 - Intro
1:19 - What Is FlexBEAM?
2:06 - FlexBEAM and Red Light Panel Comparison
2:37 - FlexBEAM Battery Life
4:47 - FlexBEAM Pricing
5:03 - FlexBEAM Use Cases
5:48 - What is Move+ Pro?
7:24 - Move+ Pro Battery Life
7:45 - Move+ Pro Pricing
7:54 - Move+ Pro Use Cases
8:45 - Move+ Pro and FlexBEAM Comparison
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Kineon Move+ Pro vs. FlexBEAM blog post: michaelkummer.com/health/kine...
Red Light Therapy Benefits for Skin, Sleep, Muscle Recovery, and Inflammation: michaelkummer.com/health/red-...
Benefits of Red Light Therapy for Joint Pain and Arthritis: michaelkummer.com/health/knee...
FlexBEAM: michaelkummer.com/go/flexbeam
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@MichaelKummer Год назад

If you decide to purchase the Kineon Move+ Pro, use code MKUMMER to get 10% off your order via my affiliate link michaelkummer.com/go/kineon. To learn more about FlexBEAM, check out michaelkummer.com/go/flexbeam.

@MichaelKummer Год назад

@@defw922 I appreciate the support! Let me know how it works out for you!

@RayPaganJr 6 дней назад

I’m patiently waiting for delivery which will be Tuesday, June 25th. My right shoulder needs some pain relief, and I’m hoping I made a right decision. Great video. Thank you.

@HaLo_Zz 5 месяцев назад

I have the Kineon and I really love it. I have knee issues for a long time and have struggled going downstairs, but since using Kineon the first time, I no longer struggle. I still have other issues, but I like and recommend Kineon. I am here to see if I need to get flexbeam, but I think I’m happy with Kineon. I carry Kineon at the gym, and it’s been accessible and easy. Thank you for this video. God bless.

@MichaelKummer 5 месяцев назад

You’re most welcome! I’m glad the Move+ is working for you!

@rogehnimunoz4327 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the vids. I’m new to all of these. Really appreciate your reviews.

@MichaelKummer 4 месяца назад

Thanks for watching!

@tommyssanderson Год назад

Great Video Mike - Thank you for a fair review based on your experience 🙂

@MichaelKummer Год назад

🙏🏻

@geofflayland1566 15 дней назад

Interesting review. We have 3 Flexbeams and get great results in all areas of treatment - superficial and deep, especially gut biome issues . Maybe I'm biased but just used to the chunky robust design of the Flexbeam and travelled with it extensively - although I can see the Kineon looks smaller and more portable maybe. Note that the Flexbeam has a $150 off July 4th sale.

@VenusManie Год назад

Just bought it.

@MichaelKummer Год назад

Coolio! Let me know how it works!

@Tionaintown876 5 месяцев назад

My dad has painful osteoarthritis and is unable to walk properly due to knee and spine pain. Thinking of getting the Kineon for him

@MichaelKummer 5 месяцев назад

In addition to that, I also recommend changing his diet to remove the source of his inflammation (and not be in the way of the healing process).

@arjenchristianhelder1027 17 дней назад

The main difference between the two is output power, and this is the most important aspect of the treatment, the FlexBEAM has a total optical output power 6 watts of pure infrared on setting 3, plus 0.5W of red light compared to about 0.5W total optical output power on the Kineon.

@MichaelKummer 16 дней назад

What matters is the max power density expressed in mW/cm2. Both devices emit 750 mW/cm2.

@arjenchristianhelder1027 15 дней назад

@@MichaelKummerHi Michael, that is incorrect, what matters most is total dose, with a minimal power threshold per CM2, this is because of attenuation in the tissue. When you compare a 2 Watt output per module to a 0.166 W output per module there will be much less penetration. if you compare 2W over 18CM2 and check its penetration depth and compare that to roughly 4cm2 with 0.166W you will see much less efficacy. you could visually compare it to a small mountain peak, and how high it is and a large mountain peak, this is an analogy for how much energy and how deep it can reach. so its a mix of surface area and total power that gives optimal results.

@MichaelKummer 14 дней назад

@@arjenchristianhelder1027 Do you have actual evidence showing the difference in penetration depth between those two power factors?

@arjenchristianhelder1027 14 дней назад

@@MichaelKummer I do not have that comparison, as it would entail placing light sensors in to the body to confirm, however considering the basic facts here, for NIR we have in the flexbeam 2 power LED's with more then 1000mW of output power each, illuminating an area of 9CM/2 for each LED will reach deeper then 166mW over an area of 4CM/2 simply because its way more energy. i think this is a reasonable statement, but if you have better arguments that disagree with this statement, please by all means share how you think about it.

@MichaelKummer 11 дней назад

@@arjenchristianhelder1027 I talked to the founders of both devices and based on what they told me, I didn't get the impression that the total power output makes a huge difference. In fact, both offered test reports showing comparable penetration depths in effective amounts .The issue with light is that it scatters as it enters the tissue, and more power doesn't necessarily mean deeper penetration. I'd argue that the angle at which the light hits the tissue is more important than the force it hits with. That's where I believe lasers have a leg up.

@colinchang1543 9 месяцев назад

What's the minimal power output needed in a LED source to penetrate into soft tissue? I'm assuming lasers need less power since they have a very narrow and direct source of emission... b/c it seems Flexbeam has more power than Kineon.

@MichaelKummer 9 месяцев назад

I don't know what the minimum power output is but light angle, cone size, distance to tissue and frequency all play a role. Both devices were developed to provide the maximum effectiveness given the light sources they use.

@71Pdf 10 месяцев назад

We have a flexbeam. Great product but i think i agree the kineon would be better for colon scar tissue,

@MichaelKummer 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the feedback, I much appreciate it!

@jerry11111 3 месяца назад

I'm considering about flexbeam. Do you think the kineon is better than flexbeam?

@bexkilby1415 Год назад

🙌🏻

@MichaelKummer Год назад

🙏🏻

@theofficialkhadke Год назад

Hey Micheal, It has been a few days since I purchased your beef liver supplements and I have been taking 1 a day on an empty in the morning with water. I keep getting gastric discomforts and have diarrhoea. What can I do to stop feeling the problem?

@MichaelKummer Год назад

Hey there! Sorry to hear you're not reacting well to liver. Are you consuming beef on a regular basis or is the liver your first exposure to beef protein in a while? If so, there is a chance you're sensitive to beef protein. But if it's just an adjustment issue, I'd take a break for a few days or until all your symptoms have subsided and then start again taking one capsule a day after a meal.

@theofficialkhadke Год назад

@@MichaelKummer Thanks for the swift reply! This is my first time consuming organ meat. I am attempting to transition from Vegetarian to Animal-based but am restricted to only supplementation because my household don't want to entertain any animal-based products. I was thinking the same regarding taking a break and starting again after 1 week. Also, I am confused on what i should do to fix my IBS because i have heard that grains can be inflammatory in nature. Once again, being in a vegetarian household, i am limited to stuff like White rice, lentils and legumes. I consume about 6 eggs a day for protein. I tried grass fed butter on and off because my skin flares up in acne / pimples / roseacea. Advice on this situation would be much appreciated!

@MichaelKummer Год назад

@@theofficialkhadke Here is an article that explains how I fixed my IBS: michaelkummer.com/health/irritable-bowel-syndrome/ Unfortunately, I don't see a way to heal your gut without removing all the foods that caused inflammation (veggies, grains....).

@theofficialkhadke Год назад

@@MichaelKummer Hi, i read your article and saw the list of supplements mentioned for aiding IBS. Among all, which one would you recommend i start off with? Yesterday, i tried taking 1 beef liver tablet after a few days off, but woke up today only to gastric stools. I am thinking of stopping it for the time being. Also, what are your opinions on taking a bone broth supplement for aiding IBS?

@MichaelKummer Год назад

@@theofficialkhadke I'd start with the ION product. Bone broth is great too. Just make sure you don't purchase broth that contains garlic and onions and other spices. Home-made with only salt is best!

@littlevoice_11 Год назад

Which out of all the devices you've used is best for hip osteoarthritis pleadd?

@MichaelKummer Год назад

Kineon Move+ Pro.

@littlevoice_11 Год назад

@@MichaelKummer thank you. Have you tried the Joov?

@MichaelKummer Год назад

@@littlevoice_11 Joov ist like Mito - great for certain use cases but not for any joint or connective tissue issues.

@kell7195 Год назад

Yeah im not so sure your claim that Near IR LEDs especially long wavelength around 810nm cant penetrate deeper than the skin is correct. At least for me on Flexbeams 3 setting it seems to have helped my hip joint, there is a lot less pain and increased flexibility and ive only used it there two or three times so far, early days but it seems to be having a good effect even on deep joints like the hip, I would think knees etc should be easy for it if it can reach the Hip.

@MichaelKummer Год назад

I haven't seen any scientific evidence to suggest LEDs with power levels of FlexBEAM can penetrate tissue at effective depths. But even the most effective devices won't fix anything after two or three uses. So the improvements you're seeing likely stem from something else (or the placebo effect).

@papas7676 10 месяцев назад

Sorry I don’t agree I have the kineon, and it helped remove inflammation in my f..ked knees within a few days Did my cartilage regrow … shit no, but the change was very noticeable after a short time …

@carey9648 10 месяцев назад

For me Kineon has not helped my knee osteoarthritis at all unfortunately. Been using everyday for 10 days, and haven’t had any pain relief. However, platinumled at Restore Hyperwellness has helped in the past with just one session. It’s interesting how significant the difference was between the two.

@MichaelKummer 10 месяцев назад

@@carey9648You can't expect significant improvements for server conditions like osteoarthritis in 10 days. It might take weeks or months. On the flip side, a regular red light panel like the one you mentioned is 100% ineffective because it physically can't penetrate your tissue deep enough. So whatever improvements you noticed, they're not from that panel. Red light panels are great (I have several at home) but not for osteoarthritis, that I can guarantee you.

@santiagorc6734 7 месяцев назад

⁠@@papas7676The kineon pro wasn’t the topic of discussion. He was initially referring to the flex beam one. The Kineon pro has better tissue penetration.

@mihaeladascalu4302 3 месяца назад

So move plus pro helps with cartilage damage? Herniated disc?

@MichaelKummer 3 месяца назад

Cartilage damage, yes but I don't know specifically about herniated discs.

@RosninPerez507 8 месяцев назад

I have flexbeam , sure Move+ is laser emiting?

@MichaelKummer 8 месяцев назад

Move+ uses a combination of lasers and LEDs. See michaelkummer.com/health/kineon-move-vs-flexbeam/ for more details.

@iamawizkid 21 день назад

Maybe read the documents included

@oussamaelouzeri3882 Год назад

I have a question about colostrum. Suppose it is in this colostrum LD brand. The interest rate is 100% clear. The question is what is the interest rate in the liquid colostrum that I get from the cow and then I boil it. I mean, after exposing it to heat until it boils, what is the percentage of interest loss? I mean how much interest remains in it. Will all of his benefits go away, or how much is left, as a percentage, for example? Do you understand my question?

@MichaelKummer Год назад

The term "interest rate" might have been translated incorrectly because I don't know what you mean by that. But if boiling raw colostrum makes it pretty much useless because the heat destroys all the nutrients in it. So if you have access to fresh colostrum, I would NOT expose it to heat.

@oussamaelouzeri3882 Год назад

@@MichaelKummer What about the pasteurization process carried out by colostrum supplement production companies, such as Colostrum LD? I read about it that it was pasteurized by a temperature of 162 Fahrenheit for 15 seconds Second question: my father is sick with ALS desease Which is an autoimmune disease, in which nerve cells are attacked. The question is, can colostrum stop this disease, and can it regenerate new nerve cells? And How many grams should I give my father because his illness is severe, and how should I give it to him? Is it in separate doses per day? Should I start with a specific amount and then gradually increase it?

@MichaelKummer Год назад

@@oussamaelouzeri3882 All pasteurization destroys nutrients, but the higher the heat, the more sanitized the milk or colostrum is. The best choice would be raw colostrum, but that's hard to find. So something like the product from Sovereign Labs or Equip is often the next best choice. I don't know if colostrum can cause nerve tissue to regrow. I'd look and see if there are any experimental peptides that can do that. Regarding dosing, I'm not aware of a suggested dose for such conditions but would probably start with a tablespoon twice a day (first thing in the morning and before going to bed) and increase to up to five tablespoons. That's what an acquaintance of mine has done to support his cancer treatment. Again, I don't know if that makes a difference for ALS but it likely won't hurt.

@MichaelKummer Год назад

And I'm sorry about your dad and wish you both all the best!

@oussamaelouzeri3882 Год назад

@@MichaelKummer The thing I didn't understand, the colostrum from LD, has been pasteurized. So the nutrients were killed in it, how good is it, and how the manufacturers say it contains all the elements found in colostrum ،And when you read its ingredients, you find growth hormone and lactoferrin and ...., where did it come from, wasn't it eliminated during pasteurization؟ And you made a review about it saying that it contains growth factors,and...., I did not understand, please explain to me!

@ermeriodsassperini 8 месяцев назад

I have the opportunity to buy the used flexbeam at a really good price. I'll be using mostly for my lower back, but also my shoulder and knee. Does it really work, and is it worth $375 Canadian? Will the flexbeam penetrate the skin in order to treat muscle, joints and ligaments? Should I save my money and buy the kineon?

@MichaelKummer 7 месяцев назад

Check out my updated comparison at michaelkummer.com/health/kineon-move-vs-flexbeam/ for a detailed answer to this question.

@ermeriodsassperini 7 месяцев назад

@MichaelKummer It's as I expected. Doesn't seem to work on joint issues. Thank you

@geofflayland1566 15 дней назад

@@ermeriodsassperini We have 3 flexbeams and work a lot on joint issues - and works very well. €375 is a good deal - but Flexbeam have a $150 off July 4th Sale very soon - it has 60 free trial and a 5 year warranty. I'll stick with Flexbeam for now - power density and penetration depth is very good