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The New England Patriots fell to AFC East rival Buffalo Bills with a 24-10 loss on Thursday Night Football. The Patriots dropped to 6-6 and fell to last place in their division. Now, while Bill Belichick has won six Super Bowls (all with Tom Brady), he is 23-23 since TB12's loss. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and David Helman share what they learned about Belichick in a post-Brady Pats organization.
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@SpeakOnFS1 Год назад

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@wendiadelsonisevil Год назад

Fat Dave is in denial

@markjackson5333 Год назад

BB spent 300 million this off season. More than he ever did for Brady. Brady was the offence. Brady carried many of the dead weight to championships and didn't get enough credit. BB regrets letting Brady go.

@TeRraAwTisM 7 месяцев назад

He couldn't even spend $30 million to keep Brady Put 50 into the defense 😂😂😂 And win again

@Kodousinx 7 месяцев назад

@@TeRraAwTisMlollllll

@thomasoneill5877 4 месяца назад

Remember when he wouldn't even pay Amendola his well deserved 10 mil! That was the beginning of the end for the patriots!

@304Slayer Год назад

Media said years ago that bill could win with any QB now they changing the narrative 😂😂

@lambro3001 Год назад

Bro I swear they were 😭 Bill won diddly squat before TB12 and he'll win diddly squat after him. He's the NFL version of Freddie Roach. An average coach who got lucky with an all time great falling into their lap (Pacquiao).

@deciuswtasby Год назад

I mean let’s be realistic here. The same fans and media never even talked about Brady….he was a 6th round pick. It’s comical how everyone suddenly “knew” he was gonna be great lol

@herrguru4264 Год назад

the problem Bellichek has... he was too quick to drop Cam Newton for Mac Jones, and it came to bite Bill Bellichek in the arse. - Steve Young learned the game 2 seasons before he took over from Joe Montana - Patrick Mahome learned the game 1 season before he took over from Alex Smith - Aaron Rodgers learned the game 2 seasons before he took over from Brett Favre - Jordan Love learned the game 3 seasons and only this week is he able to even consider contemplating starting a game.

@campete8124 Год назад

The qb that bill groomed to replace Tom has been to 2 nfc championships and a super bowl. Brady went to a stacked team and bill still had a better ranked defense than the bucs when they won the super bowl in 2020. Give bill sometime to find a qb.

@trysephiroth007 Год назад

@@campete8124 And Jimmy G's team still wants to replace him because he's the weak link.

@robwilliams2265 Год назад

JOE GIBBS won THREE super bowls, with three different quarterbacks, none of them Hall of famers. He always seems forgotten

@TheGeorgeD13 Год назад

Theisman was an MVP and possibly in the Hall if he doesn't break his leg.

@robwilliams2265 Год назад

@@TheGeorgeD13 except for that one year with the Hogs in 83, he was a bit pedestrian. I Love the Redskins and Theisman, but he was a Good quarterback, but not great.

@billrich5217 Год назад

It was a lot easier to win with bad QBs 30-40 years ago, games is 10x more reliant on passing. He’s also really old now, and his best skill (defense) is much less valuable than it used to be. I’d be curious to see how he’d do if Brady left 10 years ago.

@ryaj2356 5 месяцев назад

That was in an era that all you needed was to build a good D and put monsters on the O line to run the ball and grind out games. Can’t grind down games anymore. All the new rules can’t play good defense anymore.

@UpChuckTheBoogie 4 месяца назад

In the eighties it's not the same game

@MrChippinator Год назад

It's so ironic that for years everyone said Tom Brady was a "system QB" now it's gone 180 degrees. By leaving the Pats, Brady cemented how good he is, something us Pats fans had been trying to tell everyone for years. I mean the great game plans of the Patriots led to Brady bailing the team out how many times in the 4th quarter? He was that good.

@yeahyeahbutnah 9 месяцев назад

So your coach is below average

@MrChippinator 9 месяцев назад

@@yeahyeahbutnah I wouldn’t say below average, I don’t think below average coaches win super bowls, but perhaps not as great as people thought. All I’m saying is Brady carried the team not Belichick. He’s still well above average, just like Andy Reid who also couldn’t win the Super Bowl without Mahomes.

@yeahyeahbutnah 9 месяцев назад

@@MrChippinator andy Reid has always been far greater than average without mahomes.. belichick has been average at best w/o Brady, before and after

@tylerp7522 7 месяцев назад

For the first 3ish seasons brady was more or less a system QB. And this doesn't mean Bellichick was a offensive genius, it's more that Bellichick's teams played such amazing complementary football that the offense almost never had to push the ball down the field to win, but could play very conservative exploiting mistakes and using the very good power-run game they had in the first dynasty. Brady was a better fit for this by his nature than Bledsoe which is why he got the job. Bledsoe in the early part was definitely a better ball thrower, but just from a different era of not holding on to the ball and where 30 TD's and 20 INT's was a great year because you had to push that ball down the field in all of the systems he was in. Brady became the GOAT when he could combine that discipline and dink and dunk with the ability to push the seam and deep ball threat, making his offenses totally versatile and unpredictable in picking and exploiting weaknesses.

@tylerp7522 7 месяцев назад

@MrChippinator Bellichick is the greatest defensive and special teams coach of all time, hands down. He has a very conservative and myopic view of offense, and it's kind of dated currently. But no coach has consistently put together a good to best in league defense year in and out with variable levels of talent than him. There have been all time defenses that have been better than the best patriots defenses, but no coach has sustainably put together top 10 defenses and to top it off he put them together through like 3 different eras of football and rules.

@togelz Год назад

People forget that Bellichick had Drew Bledsoe, a multiple pro bowler Quarterback before Tom Brady, but i believe he still had a losing record from 2000 season (5-11) and 0-2 in 2 games into 2001 season before Bledsoe got hit by Mo Lewis

@jeffreyroedel9804 Год назад

This is a great point. Bledsoe was a very solid NFL QB, and Belichick's team was still struggling with him. Still giving up a lot of points on defense--allegedly Bill's specialty. And if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt, Brady never sees the field. It's not like Bill saw Brady as some raw talent and the future of the team when he drafted him. Brady was an afterthought drafted in the 6th Round as Bledsoe's backup because he fell so far in the draft and was sitting there for the Pats to get or potentially trade. Remember Belichick made his name as DC for Parcells' Jets, but Parcell's himself was a veteran and talented DC, so it's not like all of the Jets' defensive success for their title years was only because of Belichick. Parcells was a great defensive mind, too.

@TROLLBUSTER12 Год назад

Didnt he only win like five games with him total????

@jdavenport1805 Год назад

Belichick's head coaching career was over till Brady got in.

@adecentyoutuber7407 Год назад

I've made this point to people, including big time Manning fans, and they never have a legitimate answer to this. Also, when Brady got hurt and they went 11-5 people seem to forget that they were 1 win away from being an undefeated football team. That's actually a huge disparity and Matt Cassel went to the playoffs with the Chiefs just a few years later as well.

@jessemorris5125 Год назад

@@adecentyoutuber7407 Yep. Brady led that same team to 18 wins the prior year. Do the math, that’s a 7 win drop off just by not having Brady. Going back to Cleveland, Belichick has a losing record without TB12. And it’s no surprise that trend is continuing. His ego is why Brady is no longer a Patriot and the organization has been paying the price for it. And what’s ironic is BB would’ve moved on from BB by now. 💯

@DennisFutball2396 Год назад

Shady is right. Put TB12 on the eagles, chiefs or steelers for 18 years instead of NE and see if ANYONE names bill the greatest coach of all time.

@willgaines5651 Год назад

Belichick is 76-85 as a head coach without Brady, and 31-64 against teams with a record of .500 or better. That is no small sample size. It’s more than 10 full seasons of games. Clearly they accomplished great things (6 rings) together, but he has also failed to demonstrate himself to be an above average coach when not gifted with the greatest quarterback of all-time.

@ryaj2356 5 месяцев назад

But, what coach won Super Bowls with many different QBs? That list is very tiny. It’s really player based. Always has and will be that type of game.

@michaeldonnelly6747 4 месяца назад

@@ryaj2356 Joe Gibbs. Hence, he's a better coach then BIll.

@SaintsWorld24 Год назад

“Ain’t Tommy, ain’t tommy” 😂😂😂😂 I love Shady yo

@DennisFutball2396 Год назад

Why does nobody mention the .512 winning percentage before TB12 fell into his lap. That’s another 80 game body of work to consider. No GOAT talk back then

@jayy88 Год назад

It was way worse then that where did you get that #. Bill was below 500 in Clevland and 5-13 in New England before Drew got hurt. Way below .500

@polpol1005 Год назад

it's the opposite, Bill made Brady

@Franzel527 Год назад

@@polpol1005 lmao if you see brady's college games then you should know tom brady is already TOM BRADY

@Anthony_RIZZelneck Год назад

When you draft someone, they don't "fall into your lap"

@stickman1742 Год назад

Belichick record with Pats when Brady was out due to injury: regular season: 14-6 playoffs: 1-0 You are a know-nothing clown. What a pathetic joke. I hope you're not a Pats fan because if you are, you are one of the stupid, phony front-runners. You are clueless about sports, we don't need you and you should just worship your Brady posters.

@juliothom2408 Год назад

I'd give Bill more of a pass if he'd have let Brady finish his career there. Bill pushed Brady out the door, and Brady won a title and had an MVP caliber year in the first 2 seasons after he was kicked out. Bill played himself.

@MadamPrez328 Год назад

He also threw that Philly Superbowl because of his ego

@polpol1005 Год назад

nah, Bill knows what he's doing

@flogette Год назад

Malcolm Butler's last minute bench.

@stickman1742 Год назад

Pats weren't good enough in 2020 or 2021 so wouldn't have mattered. Their offense was lousy in 2019 with Brady. 2019 was painful, what's the point? And if anyone complains about the dropoff they're nuts. They were a dynasty from 2014-2018 winning 3 SBs and they could have won 5. You really think it is easy to keep that thing going for10 years? 20 years? How greedy and ridiculous can you people be?

@macahdahma7382 Год назад

Bill offered 1-year, Tom wanted 2, Tampa offered two, TB took the two-year. BB said that during a press conference.

@jackwoods9604 Год назад

Old Man Brady...New Team...3 Straight Playoff Road Game Wins...Took Out Brees...Took Out MVP Rodgers...Absolutely Humiliated Mahomes & Chiefs in SB....What Tom Brady Did That Year is Historical...Tom Brady The Undisputed Unchallenged GOAT

@Tm0n3y762 7 месяцев назад

I’m still amazed by that he leaves and still manages to win a SB also had back to back play off run if the rams didn’t beat them he probably would’ve got another honestly

@crocodile924 Год назад

Tom brady was basically the offensive coach and bill was the defensive coach. That's basically what it was. Tom controlled the offense because he is the smartest qb ever. And bill controlled the defense because he was a defensive coordinator before. That's why they're not winning is because tom isn't there to develop and guide those guys.

@eddurriii8214 Год назад

Stop it 🤣 you can just say idk what I’m talking about instead of making a statement like this showing it

@mr.ridley8255 Год назад

Tom Brady doesn’t even believe he’s the smartest QB ever he already said Peyton had a better football IQ then he did

@christopherroberts8530 Год назад

@@mr.ridley8255 than not then

@randomupdates4013 Год назад

@@christopherroberts8530 that really adds to the discussion ..

@reallifelebowski4732 Год назад

@@mr.ridley8255 Manning so smart he was a horrendous 1 and out in the playoffs 9 times and once lost a Wild Card game to the N.Y Jets 41-0 😂 Lost a SB 43-8 Hahahaha

@SuperKJ777 Год назад

Joe Gibbs won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QB's and nobody ever talks about him.

@WillyPDX94 Год назад

You got that right!

@rickbrenner6079 Год назад

Great point. And only one is a Hall of Famer (Theissman). The other two weren’t even allowed to go to Disney World after winning their SBs they were so forgetful. I’m a Phins fan and I used to hate it when my friends as a kid growing up in the mid-80s, used to declare Doug Williams and Mark Ripien as being “better QBs than Marino” simply because those dudes have a ring and Marino doesn’t.

@MGB18 Год назад

Coach Belichick has been to 12 SB's, and has won 8 Rings. He has won 6 Rings as HC for the Patriots, and 2 Rings as DC for the giants.

@WillyPDX94 Год назад

@@MGB18 Sorry, but all the Super Bowls Belichick got with the Patriots are down to having the GOAT QB TB12 making up for his shortcomings. Not saying Belichick isn't a good coach, but he ain't the GOAT people thought he was.

@MGB18 Год назад

@@WillyPDX94: Sorry, but you're wrong. TB12 is the GOAT QB no doubt! But do you think TB12 goes to 9 SB's with the Patriots and wins 6 without Coach Belichick? I don't think so! LOL. It was Coach Belichick that taught TB12 to practice, practice, practice, to be first at the facility in the morning and the last to leave at night, and to study hours of film. The same procedures TB12 does to this day.

@CoopDysfunction Год назад

This is why I believe Andy Reid is among the best to ever do it. He was winning with McNabb, Vick, Smith, Foles and now Mahomes.

@chasetullar2732 Год назад

He’s the greatest offensive minded coach idk about the greatest his defenses are always suspect.

@vargo3689 Год назад

We forgetting all of Andy’s choke jobs in the playoffs already?

@boricuafrican1 Год назад

@@vargo3689 every coach other than BB lost in the playoffs...if you didn't win the SB, you lost in the playoffs.

@vargo3689 Год назад

@@boricuafrican1 no coach in history is undefeated. That said he lost to the Colts in the playoffs up 28 and to the Titans up 21-3. Before Mahomes there were major questions whether he could ever win a SB

@boricuafrican1 Год назад

@@vargo3689 well, there's questions now whether Bill Belichick will ever be in a SB 🤷🏽‍♂️

@davidhoekstra8671 Год назад

The fact that other "great coaches" where mediocre without their franchise QB, does not prove that BB is great despite being mediocre without Tom. What it proves is how important it is to have a franchise QB. So those coaches who lucked into getting a franchise QB were able to compile great records because of it. And they are regarded as great because they compiled those great records. Who knows how other less regarded coaches would have fared had they too had franchise QBs.

@williamli6200 Год назад

Last 2.5 half seasons proved that he didn't do sh!t on offense in last 21 years, otherwise he would be the one who was calling plays. His defense was a PAPER TIGER that couldn't be relied on to win 2 playoff games, couldn't be trusted in 4th quarter. You should have seen it in last 2.5 seasons.

@rickbrenner6079 Год назад

Truth. 100%.

@davidhoekstra8671 Год назад

@@williamli6200 I agree 100%.

@keithlamar_ Год назад

Im with Shady for the fact that ALOT and I mean ALOT of fans and NFL "experts" and analysts called Brady mid for mad long and only gave credit to Bill and three years later Bill aint looking Goat-ish...And Dave is right most coaches are far better with franchise caliber QBs but I personally attribute a majority of NE success to Brady

@TROLLBUSTER12 Год назад

I never thought it was all belichick... Who was actually going to get fired before Brady came along.. cuz he couldn't win five games with his hundred million dollar quarterback..

@mattbedrosian5298 Год назад

All I heard for the duration Brady was in New England was that if you plug in any other qb they have the same success. Well 3 years removed from Brady, which is not a small sample size at all, and they wont have a single playoff win to show for it. Now that Belichick has proved to be mediocre people are trying to move the goalposts for him. Reality of the situation is he just hasn't been able to adapt and Brady covered up Bill's flaws as an offensive mind for years and now they are getting exposed.

@SirGenesis206 Год назад

The real indictment against Belicheck is the roster he puts together. He gets to choose the ingredients and still can’t create a post-Brady meal. Edit: I should’ve watched the whole video first. Acho said the same thing. Lol.

@mig2273 Год назад

Great coaches can coach and win with different players. Belichick didn't win in Cleveland and hasn't won without Tom Brady.

@im_an_alien196 Год назад

Shady is too real about Belichick lol

@TROLLBUSTER12 Год назад

He's speaking truth!!

@obynoomere1280 Год назад

Shady on fire 🔥 😂😂

@UnexpectedWonder Год назад

That was honestly a Trash take.

@chasetullar2732 Год назад

@@UnexpectedWonder you must be a patriot fan😂😂

@UnexpectedWonder Год назад

@@chasetullar2732 No, I'm a Dolphins Fan, but I'm a Sports and Football Fan 1st. I'm simply as Objective as I can be.

@benb8825 Год назад

You dickrider🤣 you actually think shady is smart in this? You’re so lost Dora can’t even find you

@michaelmentality Год назад

@@UnexpectedWonder you’re an idiot, Tua sucks too. you’re not winning a ring with him.

@IvanRodriguez-kp3nr Год назад

FOR YEARS all I ever heard was, "Oh Tom Brady getting carried. Plug any QB in the Patriots and they win the same number of chips." How it looking now?🤔

@neilouellette3004 Год назад

Belichicks Career Head Coaching Record w/out Tom Brady is 77-86. Not even a .500 average coach. I rest my case your Honor!!

@mikelight2008 Год назад

LeSean speaks more truth than anyone; Acho and Joy are strong, too. David's views make sense for outsiders that don't realize what it takes on the inside to develop talent. David's views seem to be that it's a plug and play game. LeSean sees things from the inside. LeSean realizes it's leadership and development and not plug and play.

@leetraviusmckay2919 Год назад

Hiring Matt Patricia as the offensive coordinator was Belichick idea so he has to take that blame

@icetray2727 8 месяцев назад

As a Patriots fan, I’ll be more optimistic when he’s gone as head coach and GM.

@justthings6405 Год назад

Belichick goes with no names so he can be considered to be the goat coach of all time BUT can't do it because his Brady bridge is gone. Brady was 75%, belechick 25% on the offensive side of the ball. Flip the script for the defensive side in which Belechick was the key. In summary, it was a deadly combination when you play the era out.

@mariomadyun1798 Год назад

So much for the Patriots way, I always believed it was the Tom Brady. Get him Shady

@zzzz-ok7733 Год назад

All of Bill's assistant coaches that get hired as head coaches never pan out! That should say it all!

@josephlittle1752 7 месяцев назад

Shady spent one year with Brady and was like, this is the GOAT. I will destroy all other opinions 😂

@patricebarrau308 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Lesean cannot agree more about what you say.

@devinlockhart7343 Год назад

I'm a pats fans and I agree 100% with Joy. We don't have an identity on offense and they wanna stay home grown. They need to adapt and go get players cause the AFC East have gotten better

@ElPIMPADElic2 Год назад

Belichik need to retire his GM role and be HC only. He cant draft at all. He should find random person on Eagles scouting dept to take over 100%.

@michaelmentality Год назад

Mac Jones is not the answer. He’s a backup qb at best

@devinlockhart7343 Год назад

@@michaelmentality then who's the answer?

@WillyPDX94 Год назад

You are one of the few Patriots fans who is willing to be objective. I applaud that. Belichick is a future HOF coach no matter what happens from here on out, but I think he's risking his reputation as the GOAT with his failure to properly organize and run the team without the leadership of Brady.

@herrguru4264 Год назад

@robertjackson2700 Год назад

"You gotta blame Ocho..." 🤣 Shady is the best!

@chhansen9813 Год назад

The FACT that BB makes ALL of the Pats decisions on picking/trading/paying/coaching players, it ALL falls on him! Not ALL coaches have that much juice!

@915tarponlegend Год назад

Don Shula needs recognition for how long he did it for. Also, Bill Walsh. Everyone still runs HIS offense

@erikpuka2627 Год назад

Brady is the best QB I have ever seen on tape. The most flawless and the most complete. The most dominant. Thats how A+ quarterbacking looks like. In the last 30 yrs really other than Peyton Manning - nobody else even comes close. Of course there was going to be a drop off. But that doesn't mean Belichick can't coach. Its just harder without the one who did it at the highest level ever.

@jessecastillo3841 Год назад

It proves what most people have said from the 1st season split. And the Goat went on to win a superbowl and the other struggled. It's all because of TB12 that the Patriots had their Dynasty. And Bill should always and for ever thank the Goat. For his status and legacy. With out Tom. Bill would be just in another Coach in the pack.

@brianlovelady6517 Год назад

Joy be dropping facts. She's the gem of the show.. the one who uses logic over emotions

@crazyace88 Год назад

Joy knows nothing

@eddurriii8214 Год назад

What facts? lol

@Jugg-uz2ro Год назад

I mean shefine thts bout it 😆

@kreed82 Год назад

I wonder why she's not hosting it seems dumb.

@DCMorgueee Год назад

Simpletons

@acstark0215 8 месяцев назад

I’m with you Shady! That’s right, he said it!

@michaellewis621 Год назад

It just shows that an elite QB can and will make ALL the difference...period.

@hoovesandpawsanimalrescue Год назад

Completely agree that Belichik refuses to change with the times.

@tellall23 Год назад

nah he has been overrated. He is lucky Kraft intervened the first time he wanted to rid of TB12 for Garoppolo (and Gronk)

@wavyjonesakilbomani9253 Год назад

Joe Gibbs is the greatest coach in my opinion won 3 bowls with 3 different qb’s.

@beevict9537 7 месяцев назад

Teams used to fear Foxboro in the postseason. The place had an aura of intimidation and teams knew it when they would arrive. That aura is absolutely gone now

@Killacam1992 8 месяцев назад

In 2019 I remember some friends of mine arguing with me saying Tom Brady is a system quarterback and his success is all due to Bill.. lol couldn’t be more wrong..

@gabeg2364 Год назад

Slim sharing what other players are saying. Without Brady Patriots are just a regular team.

@wei-chiehwang5454 Год назад

Yeah, no one gonna mention Belichicks' record before Brady's first appearance on the field in 2000s. : )

@jeangill2004 Год назад

Great show guys

@bradythagoatt 8 месяцев назад

Shady speaking FACTS

@pamelamichaud994 Год назад

I would love to see Brady become a coach. Imagine that match up. Brady vs Bill. Wow the ratings for that lol

@joebang253 Год назад

1000% agree with shady! Everything he said was spot on! Belichik is just another coach with out brady!

@benb8825 Год назад

You’re stupid Joe

@ryandennis8366 Год назад

Huh? Y’all can’t compare Brady deciding where he want and winning a SB to bill having to stay with a team who lose multiple stars and players including Tom Brady, it takes time to rebuild a team, Tom went to a stacked team bill can’t just pick any player he wants to go to his team, it’s a stupid debate

@stephanea5364 Год назад

@@ryandennis8366 Bill didn't have the STAY with the team. HE decided to push Brady out the door, HE decided he wanted to trade Gronk to the Lions. No excuses.

@ryandennis8366 Год назад

@@stephanea5364 not a excuse it’s thinking logical and knowing how the league works, nothing u said disproved my point

@stephanea5364 Год назад

@@ryandennis8366 Yes excuses, Belichick decided everything, he WANTED that and he spent 250 millions last year and picked a first round QB who could have gone at number 3. Not enough to rebuild? Man he's worse than I thought then.

@battlestar1788 Год назад

This is exactly how I been arguing my point especially the way la Sean said it

@joneslt Год назад

The reason BB is considered the greatest qb of all time is because he rode Brady’s coattails

@Mj-uz1ng Год назад

Shady on point

@billballoo7881 Год назад

Flip this around and in addition to Belichick, use Arians as an example. Without Brady his winning pct is .589, with Brady he posted a winning pct of .727

@wreckim Год назад

Mathematically speaking, a QB leaving an organization that is touted as the reason for winning Superbowls, and then that same player winning a Superbowl IMMEDIATELY after leaving that organization, is something that would make a Las Vegas pit boss go to the table and bring in the Cooler. The secret sauce was clearly Tom Brady, not the 'system' or the coach...although both of those had to be pretty good. That's all that's left...pretty good--50/50.

@seanc6754 Год назад

As much as I hate agreeing with shady I completely agree with him on this one. The only reason Bill belichick has six super bowls is because of Tom Brady.. period

@deciuswtasby Год назад

So it wasn’t the complete teams and roster that complimented Tom huh lol? Just one dude and wham you get championships 🤣

@aaronjackson9385 Год назад

@@deciuswtasby brady is the only com.on deniminator, though.

@lilymikey6966 Год назад

@@aaronjackson9385 those patriot fans were never complete 😂 Say what u want I watched 99% of the patriot games when Brady was there I remember when a lot of the media people would write them off because they would say Brady had no weapons… besides gronk and moss what receiver has Brady ever had?

@aaronjackson9385 Год назад

@@lilymikey6966 Welker and Cooks for one year. He wasnt blessed with Harrison/Wayne for 10 years like Manning. Not Rice and Taylor for 6 years. Or Moss/Carter for 4 years, Or Clayton and Duper for 10 yeard etc..

@lilymikey6966 Год назад

@@aaronjackson9385 What happened to wes welker after he left Brady? And Brandon cooks wasn’t that good 😂

@robertgaiser5518 Год назад

Belichick is a so so coach. Without Brady, he is nothing.

@52mbs Год назад

Shady killed this segment, microphone drop. Belicheat rolled out of bed and stumbled on the best player of all time. Outside of that he’s just a great defensive coordinator.

@charliebrown7791 Год назад

Who's the greatest coach then ?

@petersydow4002 Год назад

@@charliebrown7791 Bill Walsh

@NPAMike Год назад

Facts. Being a head coach is also about being able to identify players. I think Andy Reid has been a better coach for the last 20 years because he's done it with multiple guys from McNabb, Vick, Alex Smith and now Pat Mahomes and also his assistants have had more success after they left Reid then Belichick deciples.

@TROLLBUSTER12 Год назад

Reid is better in the regular season and exposed in the postseason.. one super bowl win and not till mahomes???

@MBoykin1982 Год назад

Someone please list Shady stats vs Belicheck..... you can hear the 50 yards games in this take

@gameoverability1876 Год назад

he averages over 100 yards of offense... on bum teams where hes facing 8 in the box everygame. you mad emotional.

@reallifelebowski4732 Год назад

@@gameoverability1876 Brady threw for astronomical *18* times in the playoffs for over 300 yards.. Mac Jones in lame regular season games 3 times 😂

@josephbeebe4312 Год назад

@@gameoverability1876 bum teams?

@gameoverability1876 Год назад

@@josephbeebe4312 yea bum teams like buffalo where he had no qb and no receivers and was seein 8 in the box just to stop him every game against every team because he was the only weapon and still produced crazy numbers. you do realize he never played the patriots when he was on the eagles right?

@captainchaosxx3866 Год назад

Funny how they don't bring up how the pats had sorriest division before maybe 4 to 5 years ago. It's usually maybe 4 to 6 guaranteed wins a year so easy to get in the playoffs.

@kojirod.dragon3724 Год назад

Exactly, too many variables to pin everything on BB.

@bryantvia4478 Год назад

and brady is in the worst division in football and can't get to .500. Pats have a better record in the best division in the afc.

@stephanea5364 Год назад

@@bryantvia4478 brady has a SB two years ago, a Sb MVP and in the hunt for the MVP last yar. Belichick has nothing LOL

@rolanddeschain965 Год назад

@@stephanea5364 belichick owns 8 rings,Most in nfl history.

@sportsavant2937 Год назад

@@rolanddeschain965 BB is the only coach the gets credit for the two superbowl rings when he was a coordinator. On that note, Josh McDaniels must be the second best headcoach in the NFL right now.

@Kim-rf5et Год назад

Time to be honest belichick is a great coach but it's easy to look better when you have Tom Brady winning 6 Superbowls for you and being the best football player ever to grace the field. He ran Tom Brady off because everybody loved Tom and Bill didn't want to share the fact that they were the best team ever with Tom Brady. He wanted all the praise but he had to share that with Tom and it got to the point that the Patriots wouldn't even get the best players yet Tom still made it work and go to the Superbowl and win still. Tom was the ingredient that made that team work. He's gone and has taken a team that was statistically the worse franchise in the NFL not only to a Superbowl and won but the team is respected now and Tampa can never be counted out because Tom Brady is there. Tom Brady is a savant of football. He's a football genius mind and that's how he comes back with little time and can beat teams because he can see what they are going to do when he's out there and he can change up to adjust. Mac Jones is a promising QB but he's not a replacement for Tom Brady there isn't one. That is belichick's fault. Robert Kraft tried to get Tom to stay but Tom Brady wasn't going to put up with belichick. In other words Bill ruined the dynasty by running off Tom Brady now you have to eat that.

@liljewels15 10 месяцев назад

8:20 no one can touch Andy Reid’s résumé best coach

@MH-fb5kr 6 месяцев назад

Tom and Bill had a symbiotic relationship… and it worked.

@MadamPrez328 Год назад

They said "in bill they trust" and they didn't need Brady

@lifesagameandaryanswonthec2261 Год назад

Shady speaking FACTS!

@vargo3689 Год назад

We forgetting Brady looked trash w the Patriots his last year? Goes to an all star team in Tampa wins and back to looking trash?

@lifesagameandaryanswonthec2261 Год назад

@@vargo3689 🤣🤣🤣 Stop lying to yourself kiddo because Brady beat the sheet out of every team and qb you like. Facts! 💪🏻😎👍🏻🇺🇸

@vargo3689 Год назад

@@lifesagameandaryanswonthec2261 Giants undefeated against Brady in the SB lmao

@lifesagameandaryanswonthec2261 Год назад

@@vargo3689 Great! Now if ANY franchise can get to Brady's 7 rings that meagor note might mean something! 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻

@vargo3689 Год назад

@@lifesagameandaryanswonthec2261 well it’ll be hard since not everyone can score a meager 13 points and still win the SB or catch a game clinching pick on the 1 yard line to win another or get lucky and have the opposing teams starting OTs get hurt the game before the SB

@KDragon1117 Год назад

Thanks for the facts

@danielroque02 Год назад

We not ready for the Andy Reid vs Bill Belichick convo... slow down. Straight facts.

@cpuchala7 Год назад

People forget about Don Sulu. A pure master.

@williamli6200 Год назад

who became an idiot thanks to Dan Marino.

@reallifelebowski4732 Год назад

If Sula had Brady he would have won 10 Super Bowls *Guaranteed*

@swea5072 Год назад

@@reallifelebowski4732 and more than 1 undefeated season 💯 😂

@MGB18 Год назад

@@reallifelebowski4732: LMFAO! "Shula" had two of the greatest QB's, and failed to win a World Championship with either of them. Coach Belichick has 8 World Championship Rings. 6 as a HC and 2 as a DC. Shula has 2 rings. Do the math.

@MGB18 Год назад

@Chris Puchala: Shula a pure master? LMFAO!!! 🤣😂🤣

@real7706 Год назад

Belichek sucks without Brady until he proves us wrong

@MikeJones-rk1un Год назад

Belichick had Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady, and Jimmy G. Now he says he has the guy he wants. When is the last time his team scored a TD on offense?

@marshallsmith8106 7 месяцев назад

Brady would've 10-12 SB if he had Andy Reid as his coach🖤

@Channel-23s Год назад

Tom was basically the offense calling and making plays with different OCS over the years bill was defensive minded only and was way to disrespectful to players and trading them away or underpaying them

@godplayer456 Год назад

i think more than bill belichick the coach this is an indictment on belichick the gm i cant remember the last good offensive player he drafted since gronk and his teams r always undertalented especially on offense it but we never saw this till brady left cause brady used to make do with subpar offensive players so bill could load up the defense

@mickser101 7 месяцев назад

McCoy can go count Belichicks 8 Rings

@liukang6937 Год назад

Shady: Brady.....CRAZY WORK

@patrickeustache4784 Год назад

The first time I agree with Joy, hands down. She spoke through an instrument of wisdom. Big ups to you gorgeous

@patrickeustache4784 Год назад

@LuckyLos my fellow Floridian, born and raised in Dade myself. Opa Locka growned. I believe you. Big ups

@patrickeustache4784 Год назад

@LuckyLos much love bro, likewise, blessings to you and yours, stay safe this holiday season you know how south FL is. No need to apologize, I'm a person that breaks down the content of what someone is saying before getting upset at how it came off, but apology accepted brother. Be blessed

@Relax-il7zn Год назад

McCoy speaking absolute FACTS

@benb8825 Год назад

You’re stupid

@ryandennis8366 Год назад

He really not, take away a star QB from any other team they out come would be the same if not way worse

@ChicoRafa_ Год назад

@@ryandennis8366 yet everyone said Brady was a system QB and belichick could win with a average QB now it’s any coach losing their QB is not good? I thought he was the goat and made Brady? Hmm guess not

@stephanea5364 Год назад

@@ChicoRafa_ Yeah they all said Brady was replaceable, that Bill would win with any QB and now they moved the goal post real quick LOL

@leetraviusmckay2919 Год назад

@@ChicoRafa_ I mean he got to the playoffs last season with a rookie QB and this season he gotta take some blame for hiring Matt Patricia to be the OC instead of getting an OC

@DM-mp6gq Год назад

He deserves all the blame! He is the GM and coach! He has his kids on the staff and surrounds himself with people that will not challenge him.

@tankeater 8 месяцев назад

71-80 is Bill's career W-L without Tom Brady... easy as that

@Bryanj13. Год назад

Can someone update me on what happened with Marcellus Wiley???

@EnterpriseNCC-1701 Год назад

You're late to the party. It's been established what happened with Wiley.

@boricuafrican1 Год назад

bruh...he gone.

@davidfuentes4398 Год назад

I loved wiley and acho wish it would have lasted

@Bryanj13. Год назад

None of these replies says what happened hahaha nvm I'll look it up.

@toriaden833 Год назад

Winning in the NFL is a intricate thing. The stars all lined up when Brady went to the patriots. In my mind Tom and Bill are both amazing. And when they got together it was magic.

@ploppill34 Год назад

The stars lined up for 20 years, and then magically disappeared when Tom Brady left?😂😂😂🎉🎉

@Dennis-nm1jm 6 месяцев назад

The stars were all lined up for Brady when he went to the Patriots. Then why did they have a 5-11 record in 2000? Why did they start 2001 season 0-3 if the stars were all aligned? Sounds like a lot of cloudy nights with no stars

@chrisricks6363 Год назад

Tom was clutch. He won a lot of games in the 4th quarter 🌗

@TROLLBUSTER12 Год назад

Still does!!! Ask the saints and the Rams

@JohnSmith-nj4zq Год назад

No matter how clutch he is, Brady couldn't overcome the sabotage Belichick benching Butler in the SB against the Eagles.

@TROLLBUSTER12 Год назад

@@JohnSmith-nj4zq that was the day I actually started the hate belichick despite many, many concerns before then. I will never forgive him for that!

@seansartor Год назад

If there is a design flaw it's the architect's fault ! 👀

@sethchandler4170 Год назад

Like usual Acho is late to the party. His Andy Reid take, I had in 2017 lol. Imagine if Andy Reid drafted Tom Brady.

@Machiavelli94 Год назад

Well Andy had the chance to draft him back in 2000 but he didn't. But Bill drafted him.

@dicceykey5923 Год назад

This is crazy! Bill beat shady too much up in Buffalo

@williamli6200 Год назад

No, Brady did. Haven't you learn from last 2.5 years? Belidiot's defense was a PAPER TIGER.

@deciuswtasby Год назад

@@williamli6200 you should be drug tested. I guess paper Tiger held the rams to 3 points while the offense got 10. Show me another team winning SBs like that lol

@tellall23 Год назад

@@deciuswtasby where was that defense against Josh Allen in the playoffs? Tom Brady was the Patriot way

@petersydow4002 Год назад

no !Brady did

@w5winston Год назад

SHADY: "They're a joke!" ✌🙏👍😂❤

@bravesvideo3176 Год назад

You Answered your own question Dave

@M--76 Год назад

It wasn't just Brady. Gronk left at the same time too. Those are two HUGE losses for the offense. When the offense takes that kind of talent hit the defense is going to struggle by default because they'll always be on the field.

@stephanea5364 Год назад

Grink left a year before and Belichick WANTED to trade him to the Lions anyway so still Bill decision.

@304Slayer Год назад

And Brady won a Super Bowl without gronk…. BILL IS OVERRATED

@M--76 Год назад

@@stephanea5364 Yep, good call. I forgot he left a year earlier. BUT, they weren't nearly as good without him and went out in the playoffs early. Then Brady left and they went totally garbage.

@williamli6200 Год назад

@@M--76 BeliCHEAP is a garbage unless he has a QB who has the skill set to turn cheap receivers into top play makers (then he will shamelessly take all the credits)

@WillyPDX94 Год назад

Lots of coaches lose star players and still find a way to win. Belichick's reputation was that he was smarter than other coaches. Doesn't look that way now. He's effed up the coordinators and the team is turning on him. He thinks he's the only one who knows what to do. But it ain't working no more. He should retirre before he tarnishes his reputation. Already people have quit calling him the GOAT coach.

@awsomesprinkles Год назад

Lmao you can feel all the losses shady had against belichick in that take.

@IvanRodriguez-kp3nr Год назад

He aint say one lie doe

@WillyPDX94 Год назад

He's talking about NOW, not back when Brady was there to save Belichick. Shady's stats are irrelevant. If you can't see that, you're just another Patriots sycophant who can't handle the decline of their team.

@randomupdates4013 Год назад

Before and after Tom... Bill fails

@anthonymann3413 Год назад

Tom Brady was the different that Shady guy played against them he makes sense this time

@user-ju8zl7wo5c 7 месяцев назад

Tom Brady saw great skill players And and brought that skill out of them.

@jasonlevesque6340 Год назад

Why does no one ever mention that he is the GM while being the coach?

@jayy88 Год назад

Because he's a terrible GM

@889976889 Год назад

Excellent points by joy acho & shady I’ve been told for years bill could win with anyone off the street turns out that’s not true. Not discrediting what he did with Tom for all those years however don’t claim a guy can win with anyone when it’s not happening.

@ryaj2356 5 месяцев назад

Bill just wants that all time winning record.

@mattlefebvre123 Год назад

As a Pats fan, I think all of the success that they had with TB went to BB’s head. Thinking that he could win with any QB. I think BB started doing what he always cautioned his championship teams from doing...believing his own hype!! Not having an offensive coordinator for your young, developing, first round QB is pure arrogance!

@petersydow4002 Год назад

exactly! he forgot that he was a prennial loser without Tom 41 and 59

@trevmac8362 Год назад

Sadly Bill Belichick is like the grand father who hasn't been to your house in 5 years and asks where the wall dial phone is because he has to make a call.. The expiration date on the milk in the fridge is long past

@mathewwhite100 Год назад

Idk you can say the same thing about Greg Popovich. A lot of people say he’s the goat when he is in a even more star driven league. You need a great player and coach to win consistently.

@chasetullar2732 Год назад

Never heard of that I have heard of Phil Jackson being the GOAT and Pop being top 3 never heard him be called a goat with only 5 championships to 11 that’s crazy talk 😅

@runningwithcat6195 Год назад

@@chasetullar2732 If you've never heard of it, that means you never pay attention to the NBA. Phil Jackson had 5 players who are all top 5 players in their respective positions in the NBA history. Pop had 1. Pop invented his own system to implement on his team, and he drafted and developed all their players. Phil Jackson was known to work very well with superstar players, but never had any business of developing players. Triangle offense was invented by Sam Berry and developed by Tex Winters. Just beacuse you have more championships, doesn't make you the GOAT. By your definition, Bill Russell is the GOAT of the NBA, not Michael Jordan or LeBron James.

@kaelinjefferies9267 Год назад

I’m one of the people that thinks pop is the goat

@GameTime-yj6qv Год назад

Exactly. Pop, Duncan, and the Spurs parallel Bill, Brady, and the Patriots. Both 20 year dynasties that won multiple championships. Both great coaches that had the perfect best player for them, a guy that was the best leader and the perfect solider that was coachable. Other pieces came and went, you could fail on draft picks and signings, but as long as you had Duncan and Brady on your organization, you were a contender. Once they retired/left, the whole dynamics changed. The great coach was still there, but there was the void of that great leader and perfect soldier. Pop and Belichick are still great coaches, but it shows that without the great court/field general, they have their flaws, and their system doesn't work anywhere near as smoothly.

@petersydow4002 Год назад

@@GameTime-yj6qv pop is twice the coach that billy th egomaniacc is,Greg is actually brilliant while belichuk is just lucky

@erich7558 6 месяцев назад

Belichick was never more than an average coach. Brady took an average coach and elevated him into the GOAT conversation. When Belichick gets his Gold Jacket, it will be undeserved and in his heart he knows this. He presided over a 20 year dynasty because of two decisions. 1st to draft Brady and 2nd to elevate Brady to back-up. He couldn't win with pro-bowl QB Bledsoe. All the same players, all the same coaches. Brady steps on the field and instantly everything changes. At best Belichick can be credited with not screwing up a good thing. Maybe that is enough to earn a Gold Jacket. Why did Matt Castle perform so well in Brady’s absence? What is completely misunderstood is that Brady’s influence on the team transcended his play on the field. Brady’s off-field influence lifted the entire team. What Matt Castle inherited was that Brady influenced team.