In this video, I read some submissions men shared on Reddit about why they are done with dating. CONTACT/ FOLLOW ME: Instagram: @courtneycristineryan BUSINESS INQUIRES: courtneycristineryan@gmail.com
yeah theyre always expecting rich, good looking and a huge downstairs department. Then never seem to self reflect upon their expectations being too high when they have not achieved anything close to any of their expectations. They're either a normal employee of a fast food 9-5 job or have no substance in their life.
Standards for men today: be fit, be tall, have a house by yourself, have a car, have a good job, pay for dates, pick her up, open doors, take charge but dont be "controlling" do whatever she asks but dont be submissive, share your feelings but only the good ones, do all the "mens chores" but also do half of the "womens chores", buy her gifts and flowers. Standards for women: exist, love me, and be loyal. And they still cant manage
Damn bro I can't say that I have ever read something so true before ,this resonates with me so much bro ,women have ruined traditional relationships completely and they will never admit it ,it's only gonna be getting worse and they will regret it
You are right. Tom Cruise said it best : "I am on a budget. I cannot afford you." If she is not a hooker, then he really cannot afford her, haaaaaaaaaaaa! xD
Flakers, time wasters, energy vampires. That's today's modern women. They get validation & attention from social media apps, especially those that provide voice calls, like snapchat and discord, etc. Today's dating: women lead on her nice guys orbiters, get the validation & attention, and sleep with chads who won't take relationships seriously. Then complain they can't find a good man.
That is the thing. 12 years ago I stepped out of my comfort zone and got bit. My first impression was she was going to blow me off. I instead was working on myself, to improve my income etc and financial situation. She must had known I was interested. When she did stuff in front of my friends, they got the impression her and I knew each other and did not believe I was not talking to her, that she was interested. So I began to second guess myself, that have I been doing like I have in the past? Just turning it off. Long story short. This is what I did not ask myself and what all men should do, what does she have to offer me that no other woman has? If you cannot answer that, then walk away. Otherwise you will be chasing a ghost. I met Monica off of Zoosk. I eventually had to ask that question because after almost 6 months of dating, I had no idea who she was. We never connected intellectually and there was nothing physically either. Twice divorced and she could not figure out why. She texted all the time. I would call and leave a voice message then she would text me. She was always demeaning you. A whole list of red flags. It lasted that long because she only came over on a Saturday for a few hours then left.
"The quality of the woman you get today is so much LOWER than it used to be... But the cost of getting that woman today is so much HIGHER than it used to be"
I've literally become allergic to the idea of dating anymore. Women demand equality in every other aspect of life but refuse to take any burden in dating because it's too difficult for them- they don't like being rejected, they don't like paying their share, etc. Seriously, the thought of asking a woman on a date gives me hives. Initiating, planning, paying, bearing all burden and responsibility while they do nothing but evaluate our efforts. Why? And they want equal pay, respect, and opportunity in the work world. I don't need it and I don't need them. Peace out. Right, they want equality when it's beneficial and they want 'chivalry' when it's beneficial.
Sorry that happen to you. that's also a reason why I don't want to marry. I've seen family members and friends go trhough divorce and it's pretty rough.
My ex-wife unsuccessfully tried to have me murdered back in her country. She tried to convince me to travel over there alone for a engineering job interview. None of it made sense to me since I didn't speak the native language and I would be in Europe far away from my family. I said NO! When that failed, she hooked up with a cop to recruit him to help her set me up for a hostile divorce to take my house and my stuff. I discovered just how corrupt and rotten cops can be when his buddies arrested me on falsified police reports and allegations. It will shock naive people how much perjury they do. The ex-wife revealed herself to be truly sick and twisted. A genuine sociopath. 2 long years and losing everything, I was a free man. NEVER wasting any of my time and energy on women again. No modern man in their right mind should consider settling down with any woman. Never get married, it's a legal mind field where you lose. Stay single and the world is yours.
@@wngimageanddesign9546 Really sorry to hear that, glad you made it out ok. My ex wife told lies about me, told lies to me, stole from me, took credit cards out in my name that I knew nothing about, took a bank account out in my name I knew nothing about, cheated on me, and I'm sure was planning to have me assaulted, maybe killed. No way I will ever get married again.
I'm in early 30s, good shape and make 150k a year and legitimately can't get a single date. The last 3 women who I matched with on these apps actually reached out to ME first then never sent a second message after I replied. The whole thing just feels like a rat race and is exhausting.
then don't use the apps. let their stock fall they deserve a chapter 11 for what they've done to the dating market. also when u see the dumb 304 shaking her a** on instagram (if u use that crap) then don't look at it. scroll out of it quick. teach the algorithm that u don't want to see that shit.
As a 6’1” dude with 8 pack and a string of vicious rejections in my 20’s. In one I offered to cary this womans groceries figuring a chance to spark conversation she yanked the bag as if I was gonna snatch it so I assumed she was just worried about theives but as it happened she lived in the same building as me so after collecting myself I rushed over to prove I am not a thief to fob her in with my key. But she was so paranoid, she didn’t even realize I opened the door for her? It was noon and the entrance had 2 security cams right there, I was wearing khakies and a fresh button up with a silver watch on my rist😂. I thought maybe my approach was too agressive, I felt bad for scaring her so I toned it down. I spent another couple years being told by women I approached, that they prefered a man with confidence😂. I quit chasing at 25 concluding it was because I wasn’t rich yet. I worked on that too but it took 5 years of pure grind. At 30 I was still a virgin, my friends wives and gfs worried about my mates hanging with me because they thought I was some suave casanova player much to my friends hillarity. A lady moved to the neighborhood and I must have walked past her at some point and she utilized this proximity to tell my neighbors that she “thinks” I “tried to rape her.” I learned of this from them as some them shared their concern. I’ve done everything I can but it appears I’ve been checkmated into not giving a fuck. The problem now is that most people can’t believe that I am a virgin and auto assume gay so its and extra layer to deal with. My only recomendation is never ever give a fuck about women while you are young!
It’s called shit testing. You're supposed to laugh it off and not take her seriously. Tease her right back about it. They do it subconsciously to test a man's emotional strength to see if he can be mentally swayed or get under his skin.
@RPcropland dude I'm 31 going to be 32 and I'm a virgin. I honestly just kept wasting time doing shit jobs because my divorced boomer parents said that's just what you do. Big regret. Didn't really start talking to girls until around 27 to now and it's a pain. I'm older and they're like ten years or 8 years younger. I'm now working on a trade and feel like not being able to be a provider is a major problem for myself and to secure a family let alone a relationship. I get girls attention because I'm attractive enough but I don't have much going on outside of work to make life exciting. Being a lone wolf has not benefited me at all with women. They literally think I'm some creep and treat me like how you've described. The crazy part is the ones that treat me like shit I have zero interest in
I’m 42, retired, and I’m tired of the game. My personal hell is the getting to know you phase, which used to be my favorite part. Spend 3-4 weeks with someone just to watch them decide they met someone new, or just ghost.
You're right. There is a subconscious addiction in continuously wanting to see what is better and around the corner. It's a continuous loop. Online dating used to work back in the 90s and early 2000s when it was less populated and people were generally only online for a reason (i.e. looking for someone very specific that share commonalities with you (i.e. religion, academic background, etc.).
@@handzus19 No, it sucked back then too. There were a lot of fake accounts to give you the impression there were a lot of females on the site. If you did manage to find a real person, you got ghosted after spending weeks talking to them on the phone to then finally meeting them when all that time you kept asking to meet to see how you get along together but were being told that you had nothing to worried about because you were the one to her. I never met anyone who objectively would have been a supermodel but just ordinary people. ALL lied about who they were and use pics that were when they were 10-15 years younger. I met a lot of people then. Lack of unlimited calls then, my phone bill would be as high as $500 a month.
Met a college grad working security single dad of a kindergartener, works 12hrs picks up kid in bed by 8 up by midnight to do it again… asked him why no woman, he said he’s so exhausted and they’re so demanding who has time for dating.
My parents and family members at functions are always like “when are you gonna show up with a girlfriend?!” and I’m just like probably never. I don’t think older generations realize how hard dating nowadays is. Social media/dating apps have made finding women impossible. Women have unlimited men to choose from, so if you’re a man and you’re not perfect you have no chance.
There was once a time dating was fun. Now, it feels like a job search for most dudes. The older generations are going to be terrified when they see how bad things are for the youth.
@@scmsean I was born in the 80s. Dating was fun. We went to movies, dinners, going on walks. Girls were trying harder back then too and now they are super entitled. I had a broke up of a long term relationship. When I was in that relationship, I missed dating. When I date again after the break up, it sucked. They asked questions like I was in a job interview and dates were super short. Like I dressed up for 40 mins badgering me with questions. They care so much about how much money I make. I dont want to be anybody's ATM. It is crazy how entitled they are now. Now I'm in another serious relationship. I'm actually dreading if I have to date again if it ever happens again.
I read 5 books a week, started a business at 19, have multiple hobbies, extended family, help homeschool my godchildren....What the hell do I have in common with someone who has no hobbies and has made their entire identity about their favorite music, TV shows, and partying at clubs?
None of that makes you better than anybody and saying that their whole personality is about "their favorite music, tv shows, and clubbing" won't get you far. Because it assumes they are 2 dimensional when, in reality, nobody is so black and white. That's surface level and everybody has deeper opinions. People have dreams, desires, beliefs, etc. that isn't front facing. You just have to talk to them on a deeper level to get to that and to have them open up more.
I'm not single because I want to be single , I'm single because WOMEN DONT WANT ME and it's fine life is unfair and we have to accept it, reality is for people like me.
@@drakecliff8378 I strongly agree with on that one. I'm only 38 going on 39. I've wasted 18 years of it, but when i finally did at 30 it wasn't what i expected. So, after 3 times i've tried and failed, decided to call it quits. I mean like you said about life and you're right; "it's unfair and we have accept it". That's what i'm doing as of this moment.
Since my last girlfriend ended our relationship, I have been approached and asked out once in the last 4 years, that is it. Constant rejections are the norm and that horrific feeling of imposter syndrome just for going up and trying to authentically connect with women as a man. Most women have no clue what that experience is like.
I'm a man in his 50s now. I am very well educated. I have a PhD and two Masters degrees. I have found out the hard way that women are not at all attracted to intellectual men. I have also not made a lot of money in my line of work. (I'm in Academia.) I am reasonably attractive and in shape. I am a good (ballroom) dancer. I have never been married. I am giving up. Women are unbelievably unrealistic and way way too difficult to satisfy. It's all about them, and never about what they bring to the table. Like I said, I am giving up. Hate to say it: I would have made a good father. Just sad.
have you tried dating outside of the cesspool that is this country? u can eat in a pile of sh*t and expect things to go well. try dating outside of Canada, US and Russia. then if it docent work throw in th towel
I'm sorry it took you so long to realize that most women aren't attracted to intelligent men. Honestly, if you were smart enough you'd have figured this out a long time ago through your own observations and social experiments instead of blindly believing the lies society tells us about women's preferences. I was on your same track before i jumped ship to business after realizing this at the age of 30. I have more time to improve myself socially and physically than intellectually now that i have made the transition. Anyways, you still might have a shot outside the west though. If you can relocate, do it immediately..
You maybe need to watch a few less red pill videos. I was watching one of Courtney's where she interviewed half a dozen women and asked pointed questions about what men claim are the biggest issues. Things like height vs. income, vs. values in common. The answers were refreshing, surprising, and not what so many men claim it is. Yet most of the men acted like the women had answered just as claim they would. They ignored what they really did say and just carried right on w/ all the red pill memes. This was the vast majority. It was alarming really, because I fully expected men to be pleasantly surprised that even tall women were picking the short version, or less money, in order to meet someone w/ things they valued more. It just didn't matter.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 watch videos of guys asking women questions about what they look for and 95% of them answer "money, status, height, etc". I get what your saying, there is the exception but it is not the rule. Most women do think like this, and it IS a problem.
@@stefanbento8267 I doubt if I did the video I watched justice. Here's the title if you're interested: Which Guy Would Women Choose? (Would You Rather...) There's a big difference between men asking women standard questions, and getting standard answers. Courtney is a psychologist (I think) and she designed these questions really well, and got really thoughtful answers and actually asked probing questions. You sound like you might actually benefit from this. The way most men responded to it was demoralizing though. And this "exception, not the rule" idea, like a thoughtful and fair woman is a unicorn, that's a massive problem. Men sure have their own standards, but they are very resentful at women having them.
A modern women’s thoughts as she ages: 15-17: OMG! So much sudden attention. 18-26: I’m a goddess. Worship me. 27-38: Where did all the good men go? 39-50: It’s the evil patriarchy’s fault! 51-59: Anyone? Please? 60+: Here mittens! Come get your Purina
This was beyond accurate, you pulled that one out of the Ether 😂😂😂This is modern women timeline wrapped up and packaged PERFECTLY in this comment. You just summed up the timeline for a majority of women.
@Barley Exactly, I have a girlfriend and I picked her because she has qualities that other women, even much more attractive women dont have nowadays. She got in without past, I took her virginity and she gives me support for everything, specially to feel better if I just feel bad about work or something. She helps me become more prone to success. That's the 1%. Society tells us that we need the most beautiful women in the world, but its worth nothing if she has a personality of Amber Heard. But we both been criticized for being loyal. Now we have to join the hookculture, the drugs, the alcohol, the over processed foods. Its all about living in the moment, no long term plan and build. Then those people are who hit the wall. Women on their 40s that cant get laid anymore, obese people who get diabetes, cancer and other illnesses, drug addicts, alcohol addicts.
I completely walked away from dating 15 yrs ago, and It's one of the best decisions I've ever made. I find women to be infuriating & insufferable. I will NEVER have the time or energy to put up with the stupid f#cking BS games that women constantly play. No amount of companionship is worth that kind of chaos & bedlam.
In a world that has abandoned sexual morality , relationships are dead and as a result society will crumble once the family unit is destroyed by Lust . There will always be someone physically better , especially as we age .
Fascinatingly, a similar thing happened in Ancient Rome. People weren’t marrying, people were cheating on their spouses, sex became very much then like now, with Ancient Rome style hookup culture. It enraged the emperor of the time, Augustus, who declared anyone caught in adultery would be exiled and their property taken. Men could execute their spouses’ partners and daughters if caught in adultery.
Nowadays, men would rather be alone, unloved and unwanted. Guys r pretty much done with relationships and marriages. They no longer see the point of em coz they know they can shafted in divorces. 50% of marriages end up in a divorce and 70% to 80% of those divorces r initiated by women. 98% of alimony receivers r women.
I always love when people try the "you're just bitter" line on me... No, not at all, I love women, but I've never been married and at this point I'm fine with never getting married, it's just too much risk with the laws today. I came close a couple of times when I was younger, and thankfully they all chose to end it before hand (one I even proposed to, to find out she was cheating - sucked at the time, but honestly I'm glad about it now). I prefer to think of it as "never enter into a contact where the other party gets rewarded with cash & prizes for breaking their side of the contract". It's a quite simple legal concept.
@@captainz9 true that. If anyone dude wants to get married, get a prenup ready for her to sign. A prenup is the only contract that can protect a man from divorce settlements. Instead of losing more than half of his possessions and valuables, he can keep it and she will can't take anything of his. Only wat she brought into the relationship.
@@jameeldaya9840 Not necessarily, the family court judges can decide whatever they want and ignore a prenup in a divorce settlement is my understanding.
@@halilic five main areas of life, right? Your body, your mind, your bank account, your relationships, and your lifestyle. All are incorporated so closely together that if you are failing in one aspect, it will have a negative effect on all the others. I struggle the most with my relationships. My body is lean and muscular, mind has always been sharp (I credit this to the way I was raised). I'm a hard worker and I'm clever, so I've always done well with money, considering I'm 21. My relationship with women has been rather toxic in the past, but I've worked over my own character to improve that, and now I'm in a very healthy and productive relationship. It's all about work- find the things you can improve, and make it happen. There isn't an end goal; the journey is the point of it all. Improving yourself is a daily habit imo.
Young men in their 20s have to focus on getting their lives together mentally, physically and financially. The whole "cart before the horse" method can have you making up for it in your 30s. You have to be honest with yourself and ask the tough questions on whether you can afford the time and money to date and support a relationship. If you can't, don't. You won't be rewarded.
It's so narcissistic and egoistic to think that relationship is mainly about money. If your partner is only looking into your wallet then it's a wrong partner
As someone in my mid 20s, agree 100%. I live in an area where there's a lot of peer pressure for people to get married young. Most my friends are married already, but I gotta honestly wonder how many of those relationships are going to last. Some of them were engaged barely after 6 months of knowing their spouse. And none of them had their career or finances at all in order.
Being a solid 7.5 with a 8.5 in success /style / cleanliness, and a 9 in intelligence, I believe I’m entitled to my three basic requirements of 1) treat me nice 2) don’t be a drain on my soul 3) (optional) children, yet I’ve got 2’s and 3’s giving me the silent treatment when I actually attempt to make plans with them. So I dare to ask… who’s more entitled???
@bomfine Beta? Feminism has never been permitted in the parts of the world that do enslave women. Feminism has made a lot of women useless and combative; not good family making material. Women can't emasculate a mature male; problem is they are emasculating young men because feminism has taught them it is OK. How would young women like it if guys told them daily that they were stupid, ugly, didn't dress right, were toxic and society would be better without them?
They ain't even masculine or tough, just overly arrogant and horrible personality and then demand respect from men. We respect the traditional women a lot and they respect themselves as a women as well, unlike the feministt who are insecure about themselces for being born a female and then release those frustrations through hatred on men and then tries to demand respect from us, Respect is indeed a 2 way process and feministt out there should know better.
@Jay Bee You obviously don't get it. Haven't you heard, women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Past the sex power women have no power over men. Very few women get the relationship with the guy they desire because the guy they desire is desired by hundreds of women and past sex from them he doesn't desire to be in a relationship with any of them. You know what the future looks like for most women? Single moms, no high-valued guys interested, 30,40, 50, 60 year old cat/little dog ladies.
@bomfine I'm sensing a typically wrong psychological diagnosis. There is not an abundance of women that choose to be single as you pretend to portray. They are single because they offer no value to men. Men are much better at being single than women. Women are only self-sufficient because the patriarchy makes it easy for them. When the world goes to shit, who you gonna call?
Of course we're done with dating... We can go out to many dates, she'll still have another person ready to take her somewhere else within an hour after the date... We can try dating apps, we'll just be ignored as she uses us for validation or short soulless replies... We can try to approach in public, and we're considered "creepy". And even if we win in dating it just becomes exhausting and expensive, just so she could say she wants more from us and then entertain her other options because she wasn't happy. It's not worth it anymore 🤷🏿♂️
Because as soon as someone who is more successful/handsome/rich shows up in her life she will literally do anything to be with him. Yeah, it's a personal experience. From just that one incident I decided "fuck that, i will never let a woman into my life ever again" better to focus all my energy on my self. Fuck love, embrace the self-development.
Looking at things these days, I have come to the conclusion that romantic love between a man and a woman is a lie. Listen to what men say. Most women who are in relationships don't love their guy...they will nope out at the first sign of trouble. That is not love. It took me more than once, but I'm living alone (almost 7 years) and am at peace.
Again, garbitches and public toilets and the guy's who they think they're going to get,he realizes that they are nothing more than a used car with a lot of mileage and with that, he'll use them like an uber or lyft and when he has reached his destination, he'll pay and get off only to catch the next ride. Until he purchases the brand new car of his dreams.
So, I don't want to be combative here, but after just one woman did you wrong, you intend to swear off them all forever? That's akin to a woman sleeping with a chad that pumped and dumped saying all men are trash, right? I'm not telling you to give girls another chance. I guess I am just hoping you took the time to heal from it. Because they can be something wonderful.
@@MrIkOgNiToyep lmao married isn’t even safe anymore more than likely divorce is awaiting. Nowadays it’s about who can get more money out of the other person lol
Social media and dating apps has completely destroyed dating and relationships in the modern age. Birthrate in the west is falling dramatically and is already at a net loss. Even when the biological clock hits, most wont settle. The Susan Boyles out there still trying to find Jason Momoa at the age of 35. It's game over for most of us.
Birth rates plummet in western worlds, because of education, technological advancement and medicine. It was necessary in the past to have a couple of children because of diseases like polio and a general higher rate of child mortality. Oh also: Contraception. People can now plan IF and WHEN they want to have children. Amazing! Not everyone wants children. Especially educated households have less children. There is so much wrong with your comment. And I didnt even went into your negative world view. But yeah... Social Media is bad. Thats why you're using it right now. What does it tell about yourself? Are you bad, too? Or is social media just a tool. And a tool is neutral. It depends on how you use it. So therefore your argument is a bit fruitless. Luv ya
Its apps and court system. If court system would respect men, men would not be so afraid. The internet helped older men share their story to younger men. While in the past, men suffered and nobody knew. So the internet helped. But yeaj dating apps are shit
i think women should show atleast interest not only by sign or smile for us guys if women approach it's so much easier for us cause most women look at us like we are weirdos most of the time
Oh man, that is *so* accurate is freaky. I’m getting divorced after seven years married (14 overall), and while it’s as amicable as it could be, I have no interest in dating again. I’ve got some adjustments to make in my career and the next house (that I’ll build instead of buying), and I know that my healthiest option is just to “do me”. I’m going to do all the nerdy shit that I’ve honestly just not had the time to do over the last several years, and if someone comes along that seems to be looking for (to the point of making up) reasons to be around me, that’s the person I’ll pay that attention to. I want to do woodworking (dice boxes/cases, -towers, music boxes, carved figures, etc). I love that shit. I also think it would be badass to just go ham on costumes for Ren-Faires and so on. Why not!? I’ll be in my element if someone else comes along. If they don’t? Well, I’ll still be in my element. 😂
I watched this Kung Fu movie where these monks were training in a Temple. One of the training exercises they had to go through was where they ran through a room full of swinging sand bags, and the teachers would swing the bags at them. So they were constantly being hit in the head while trying to get through the room, and it took everything they had just to stay on their feet. That's kind of what dating is like.
@@jimmusthegrimmace It was such a long time ago, I don't remember it. Was that the movie where the guy threw a bunch of bowls in the water, and at one point ran across the water just barely touching piece of wood or something that were floating?
As a man who has been on dating apps for 2 years, I've done my best to cast as wide a net as possible. Out of the hundreds if not thousands of girls I've sent messages to, maybe 50 of them have responded, and a dozen of those have strung me along for weeks or even months at a time just to tell me afterwards that they don't want to meet up, or simply stop responding to me. It is really not fair to have my time wasted like that and not even know where I went wrong. Reading through these comments and watching this video is so depressing because I've largely come to the realization that maybe there isn't someone out there for everyone, women are boxing themselves in, and unless I win the lottery tomorrow, I will probably die alone. Nobody is entitled to anything. I'm not entitled to them, and by the same token, they're not entitled to someone better than me. Dating apps are the most dehumanizing exercise in frustration that I have ever had.
You have a bad mindset. What is the problem with dying alone? It sounds dramatic and you created this fear for yourself. Life can be very fulfilling and exciting without women. If you decided women are an essential part of your happiness, it is on you. You are locking yourself up in a miserable mind prison. Enjoy life before it is over and let go of the women 👍
Don't forget hookup culture and "female empowerment" through promiscuity. A lot of men don't have to commit when it's very easy to get what they want and move on.
@@Xanivert lol I don’t necessarily agree with this. There’s definitely a lead up that some of us haven’t learned (which I don’t mind since I’ve never been a interested in hookup culture). But I will say that I’m a 6’3” athletic dude (my looks are subjective obviously) who does not have women falling into my lap lol
@@stefmac Well I mean that's a great way to get initial attention but if that's all you're working with don't expect much lol. I once met a guy at a club whose whole personality and game was how tall he was, good looking guy. He approached a lot of women, none were interested. Gotta have confidence, charisma, actual conversational skills, good humor etc.
@@RemyBeast exactly lol. Therefore it’s more than that physical attraction. I’m more of a person who gets along better with people after getting to know them and being comfortable with them. That’s definitely not the equation for the hookup game in my experience 😂
I don't have the energy to deal with women and dating. It's too mentally, physically and emotionally draining(yes, we men have emotions too, surprise). I'm 41 and going the rest of the way solo. The quality of women out there today has plummeted off a rock face. Ugh.
Agreed, just went through a big heartbreak and it has rocked my world. However, it has made me stronger so even if you fail I'm dating, as long as you learn and improve, you win
@mkwhole Do you think that by getting stronger and better, that the next relationship will be better? I recently went through what you did and it also rocked my world, turned it upside down. She didn't even try to work things out. She just threw me away, no feelings whatsoever, so easy like I was just another easily replaceable item. It really opened my eyes to the level of shallowness this woman was capable of, and this doesn't sound like an isolated incident, but rather a trend with women these days.
I'm just out of a relationship that I was invested heavily into and REALLY liked the girl. Things were going so well and we were getting on so well. Then, I get a message saying she was not at a point in her life for a relationship. She said I treated her kinder than anyone ever has, she said I was sweet, and really enjoyed spending time with me. She said there was nothing else I could have done or changed and to not overthink since it was absolutely all her apparently. And this is not the first time this has happened, so it almost makes me want to give up on trying to put in tje effort to meet someone. It's like nobody is willing to invest a bit of time to create a deep, meaningful relationship. So now I'm focusing on myself more than ever. Lifting weights, running, teaching myself more skills to make more money and change career paths. I think I'll see more of the world as well. It's almost worse that there was no reason she gave for leaving me. If I was as great as she said, surely she would've wanted to work with me and allow me to help her in her life with anything she needed if she was having problems. So I don't know, it's all very mentally exhausting. I need a break.
Men want to date but the dating scene has devolved to hookup and nonsense. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. I’d rather save myself the wasted money and heartbreak to spend my resources and time improving myself and enjoying hobbies and traveling. I will find my Mrs eventually.
Agree. Why bother taking the time to attract someone when they are talking to 4-8 other dudes. Waste of my time. I don’t even try anymore unless a woman shows initial interest in me first.
When I see how people were in the Great Depression . They had no money , status, material things , ..They just had each other . Maybe that's what's needed to bring people back to reality.
It's coming! Just look at gas prices. They will starve into submission if it gets real enough. But when things get better, like a butterfly, they will go to another flower.
That's exactly it people keep saying how they don't need anyone their focused on their goals and money that's the problem is the obsession with money and status I mean it's not bad to have all those things but when you think those things will make you happy and choose those things over love you will never be happy alot of people miss opportunities with some really good girls or guys because of status and money and it's sad I felt connections with people but their materialistic mentality got in the way and it's really sad because life could be good if they just lived in the moment and didn't feel like they were chasing something they desire rather than appreciate what they have already when they get older the regrets will kick in that's if they even live that long
I saw a video where a woman left her husband after 2 years of marriage. Her reason: "He was too perfect for me." She left the "perfect" man for a Chad that didn't really care for her. Knowing that a woman will leave a "perfect" man, I don't stand a chance because I'm far from perfect. Basically, there's no point in trying to date.
Ya, I gave my house, my truck, my Harley. I can do what I want, when I want. When I get home, I can relax in piece and quite. I can work on my projects when I want to. I don’t hate women. I just don’t really need one to make me happy. I sure as hell would never go out with any women from work and try to never be alone with any women. I like my job and don’t want to be accused of anything. I just to my job and mainly alone! Which is just fine by me. The unicorns out there are far and few between with all the social apps out there and most women think they’re a 9 or 10 and that is the guy they deserve. The top 5-10% of men out there that fit all their categories which is really under .5% of the male population. So many women are sleeping and fighting over this small group of Chads and Tyrone’s out there thinking they’ll land them. They’ll cheat on their boyfriends or husbands for that chance on an upgrade. As women are only on loan to you until they see an upgrade. When that fails, try to get you back. Never take them back!!! It sucks this is the world we live in these days. I don’t see it changing anytime soon. I gave up long ago. Let the women all fight and sleep around with the tiny group of men. No longer my problem. I’m still friendly with women, nothing more.
Especially as the benefits are pretty nonexistent, to the male. Women just aren’t worth it anymore. They killed the golden goose (or rather cancelled it)
To be honest, aside from sex, I do everything else on my own and have for years, so why would I waste my time on something/someone who offers me nothing? I also believe expectations from both sides are beyond unfair, not to mention the added fear males have now days of even saying "Hello." It feels like I should have shown up with my battle axe and armor just to talk to you anymore. Defiantly not as easy as it was in the 70's - 90's.
You are absolutely right. Dating or having a girlfriend is really just about the sex. Otherwise have the woman as a friend. My experience has been that women can make wonderful friends to men. In fact I think they are better friends to men than they are to other women. When I was young, an older co worker once told me - When a man really needs help in life, he shouldn't turn to another man. He should turn to a woman.
Are we dating the same guy Facebook group has further pushed men away. There was once a time when her saying "no" was the worst thing that could happen. Now if you reject a woman they may come after your job.
Facts good job my brother we rock with you because every time I ask them face time they be excuse hate female do this s*** that's why I don't f*** with females on social media I rather do it the old school way to see woman at store or at the doctor and if she attracted I'm holla at her
Im starting to think if thats only what they are for.. they sure do like to take any advantage of wearing less clothing to show off their body.. everything is about appearance for them and their bodies, so you probably right
Why are you acting like you ever thought of women any higher than that in the first place? Men’s true colors are being revealed with what they truly think women are for. Thank you for confirming it.
I recently turned 30 and dating has always been a nightmare for me. I’ve never managed to get a date and I’m a virgin. I’ve given up a long time ago but loneliness is killing me.
I am 43, single, childless, and most importantly drama-less. I guess you can say that I am selfish, I come and go as I please, I purchase what I please, I take on projects when and how I please, I take on chores when and how I please, I can go on all day. I can act out my emotions without being berated and looked down upon. If I feel sad I can look sad and not have to hide it. If I want to let out a few tears I don't have to worry about someone losing respect for me and seeing me as weak or less manly. I get to keep all of my friends and I don't have to justify or hide hanging out with them. I get to play video games as much as I want as well as do my other hobbies. Yes, single life is BEAUTIFUL and I love it.
Yup it's either you waste your time competing with other guys on dating apps for one girl with dozens of options. Or you settle for a single mom who wants you to help her take care of some other guys trash. That was enough for me to say I'm done. I own a house and get paid well. I'm happier on my own with a cat than wasting time trying to please someone else.
imagine interviewing and going through hoops to be used as a resource for the set time it takes for her to find a better one. thats like having google interview itself to its employees. except employees bring something to the table
Yes, womrn want your resources otherwise men are just stress if they give nothing but just expect free sex. Of course women want a man's effort and resources since men can't evrn talk well let alone more. Those who can talk well anf communicate well they can grt a woman without resources.
Good God, get out of that friend zone mate! She most obviously does not deserve you. And IF you ever manage to be with her because she MIGHT lower her standards... BE AWARE that from her point of view, you always will be the man she is with because there is no better option..... this implying that it MIGHT happen that she grows tired of pretending loving you - with a high possibility having her turning your entire life into HELL - and be aware that there is no one out there helping an man in this situation (see Depp/Hurt case)! You might think I am cruel ... please take this advice from a bloke who was EXACTLY there - and still pays aliments for his stupidity! Last little hint: before my divorce I was very caring, pro equal rights, pro feminism...and most women ignored me. Since I divorced, I ceased treating them as queens, I ceased giving them privilege, stopped caring about their feelings and exclusively looked after my own interests. They most obviously confused all kindness with being needy for since my radical change- all of a sudden I have several ones of them most interested and complaining that I am a man unwilling to commit. THINK about that mate! I wish you luck.
Lol I'm 45 and look good for my age but the women my age let's just say aging isn't friendly good luck with that one. She will be able to find a piece of ass but that's about it.
@@abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713 Even tho I watched a lof of videos about dating and understanding women it's still weird how if you treat them badly they will chase you. I guess it's the movies, music and other media propaganda to help women as much as possible. Also with this behavior women create men they don't like. They want a good guy but are turned on by bad boys. Which is bs
As a men looking back on past experiences with woman… I’m actually very thankful for the woman who ghosted me or manipulated me… it made me realize my weaknesses somehow and it put me on a self development journey to become the men i am today! The irony of it al is that even if your have your shit together woman will not want me. Now they’re to shy, insecure uncomfortable around me. woman these days don’t know how to handle a masculine man. They seem to want a beta malen because they’re easier to control and have no insecurities around them…
Back when I was dating ( 80's and early 90's), I felt like I was so out of place because I really wanted to be a full time stay at home mom and wife. It was considered very old fashioned and lazy . Most men I dated expected me to want a full time career too.They didnt seem to see the value in a loving and supportive homemaker. I did go on and become an RN, married, 3 children and have worked full time for the last 30 years, but , still, to this day, have only ever wanted to be a full time homemaker mom and wife. I think the feminist movement has become toxic to our society.
My mom was full-time homemaker, homeschooled us as well. My brother sister & I can't imagine life any other way. Dad was UPS, more than enough to support us all. Never will I take for granted coming from a strong nuclear family.
We live in a fast-paced society unfortunately. Nerly every workplace wants people to be able to do more in less time = effective, it sucks ass. We will probably never slow down until a world war breaks out or something. People are impatient and i would think especially women. They want everything and they want it now.
I hear ya - shadetreeKennyT! You have to be very careful who you get involved with - because they could possibly ruin your life, and the career that you’ve worked so hard for. That’s why you have to pay really close attention early on in the relationship, to see if you can spot any red flags before it’s too late. I’m sure John Depp wish he had - now! Anyway, that’s my two cents. -Carlos Verde - Dating Tips
I am Italian but I have lived in USA for an entire year. I can definitely say European women are WORSE (in fact, I had some girls in USA actually talking to me first, which it never happened in my entire life here in Italy).
When l was in high school and college my main goal was finding my soul mate. Today lm much wiser and lm ok being single. Im able to save time and money being single.
When a woman judges how much love can be in his heart because of his status, it says how wrong things are. When a woman wants a man to show off to her friends until something better shows up, it says how wrong things are.
This girl I talked to for the last few weeks texted me paragraphs, used lots of emojis, “hearted” certain texts I sent pertaining to going out sometime… asked her if she was free on 2 particular weekend days, she couldn’t bc of a family event.. she asked if we could hang out the next weekend, so I told her no problem and to feel free to reach out when she figured out a date for that next weekend, I didn’t bother her for over a week… she never reached out😂 so wild that a girl goes through saying so much over the course of weeks and does that lol, weird asf
I'm 38 and haven't put much energy into dating since I turned 30 for the same reasons mentioned in this comment section. I have often been asked don't you want a family. Yes a family would be nice to have but I can also be cut out of those kids lives very easily, seen it happen many men. Fathers literally have no parental rights.
Yup and then when the man says fuck you then. I'm not going to work or even pay anything to help because I can't see my children. To jail they go. I know a dozen guys who just go in and out of jail . They are so use to it now. They will never give in now. Crazy. I'm glad I never knocked any bitches up.
So many women hold themselves to very low standards while expecting ridiculous standards from men. They don't care to be the best version of themselves but you sure as heck better bring your A game! Even with things you cannot control are that are difficult to change.
26, same. Started putting myself out there, got some makeouts etc., but getting women to show up on a date over texting/their phones has been a nightmare so far.
When you can't even go a couple sentences with someone trying to give a great first impression without them ghosting you, it is soul crushing. They complain that only f-boys and creeps are going after them, yet they actively avoid the guy who's actually at their level. A girl asked what I was up to and I said that I was relaxing playing a video game because I was working all week. I finally had a free moment and immediately got ghosted
What makes you think us "overseas" women are going to take in the bad apples and dusties of the US ? if you are a narcissistic entitled male who refuses to do the work or look in the mirror your bad personality is always going with you even if you change continents.. if you go for a 3rdworld Asian country then you will end up with what you are constantly complaining about..a gold digger..😊 cause this woman will solely be with you and submit to you for your dollars only.she will expect of you to take care of her and parents forever or else you are kicked to the curb
After to many turn downs, ghosting experiences, replacements after 3 weeks, and golddiggers a man has just given up. Luckily for men, we can easily be on ourselves, we do not need a mate. Instead of women, hence the many tiktok video's women entering their 30's nearing their 40's asking where all the good men are. We have chosen to not to date you, good luck.
Dating is way too expensive both financially and emotionally. I enjoy having the freedom do to what I want, when I want. Modern women are just too difficult to understand. They want independence but still expect men to hold the door for them.
50, divorced twice, 2 kids..tried to date again. wow..i was in for a surprise, better off alone I guess.. too much expectations, nothing is enough.. “you are awesome but…”….if you show interest you being pushy, if you don’t you are a douchebag.. hard to win a battke thas already lost from the get go
Trust me, they’ll pick the douchebags over the caring “good” guy any moment. You’d be surprised to see their interest when you tell them straight up you just looking for a “friend”.
After years of being used, abused, lied to and cheated on, the “good heart” I once felt beating inside me is just a blood pump covered in scar tissue. It’s easier to die alone than to risk being destroyed by another narcissist.
"Specifically, unrealistic expectations are held by people **cough*WOMEN!*cough** who conveniently HOLD THEMSELVES TO LOW STANDARDS but... FEEL ENTITLED TO THE BEST." omg soooooo true
I'm not a MGTOW, but my life is now full of other things to do that are either fun, profitable, or necessary. Going on a date means I don't do one of those things. Why should I pass on those things for a date that likely will lead nowhere?
@@Youttubeuser20932 "One reason is that being in a good relationship can make your life much better" in what way that men cannot already do for themselves? people like to throw this around and never actually answer that question "but humans are social creatures" social doesnt always mean romantic, this is a bad argument. humans can have friends and family not romantic and still be social. "and having a solid family with a loyal partner does so much good for our mental and physical health." 55% of marriages end in divorce, women initiate 75-80% of these divorces. 90% of the time she wins any and all custody battles and parental alienation is the leading cause of the already high male suicide numbers. more men will die pursuing this ideal family than those who will prove it good. that by itself means its not good. "Also, if going on dates isn't fun, you should probably take a look into the reasons why that may be the case. " any and all men are a single right swipe away from getting ghosted. the marriage statistics ive already mentioned and the still current dating climate of male effort for female validation are just reasons off the top of my head. couple that with infidelity and paternal fraud which men are victims of 33% of the time and youve got plenty of reasons. couple that with the fact that alimony and child support are paid to women 97% of the time and when men receive it, its 23% less money, theres your reasons. "I can understand hating trying to get a date, but if not having fun when you actually go on them is the norm for you, something is up" yeah, she could be a terrible date, or we cant have fun because we know the risks involved with it so we cant relax. one misstep and at best its a ghost, at worst, its a child and at absolute worst, that child is not his yet she tells him it is so he can raise it.
@@Youttubeuser20932 _"One reason is that being in a good relationship can make your life much better....humans are social creatures."_ You may be on to something there; I've always preferred being alone, and have always gotten the impression that mine is not a normal outlook.
@@Youttubeuser20932 _"Have you ever spoken to a professional about it?"_ No. I just play the piano all the time. I wouldn't want to change if it meant I didn't want to play the piano as much.
Definitely you are on point why men don't want to date. Me? Admittedly I am a bit picky. The girl I like most that I met in real life, doesn't return my feelings. Another girl I liked that returned my feelings was afraid of what her mom would think of us, so we never became an item. Unfortunately she passed away a few years ago but I still miss her. Two girls who wanted me both wanted to have my children but I wasn't as into them as they were into me to say the least. One considered me her boyfriend on the first date, made plans to marry me in two years, and be a stay at home mom. The other said she'd marry me in a heartbeat, already was making wedding plans, and saw us in a house with Three kids. I have mixed feelings on having children. I am not sure if I want them or not. A lot of women still want to have children. Knowing the object of dating is ultimately to find a suitable marriage mate, I don't know if it's truly for me. I'd rather be single than be with "the wrong one" amongst other things. Also a lot of women don't like themselves, their bodies, or their boobs. That makes me sad when I find someone attractive but she doesn't think so so she surgically changed herself to conform to some other beauty standard. It stinks.
I don't have much to say about dating, at least not from experience. At 35, I just haven't found anyone that I click with. I don't think that I'm asking for too much, and I don't have crazy standards. I just want to meet a nice girl who loves God, genuinely enjoys my company, is moderately attractive, feminine, not crass or loud, and has traditional values. There's a lot about marriage that gives me pause, though. Today, you need to have a huge amount of trust in your woman. She has the power to blow up your life with reckless abandon. Maybe I'm foolish or naive, but I still have hope.
Just don't get married. The risk / reward ratio is off. Leave it for the gay people; when they spend a few years having it blow up in their faces, they'll be done with it, too, and we can all start again from scratch.
Have faith brother. A woman that loves God will embody all checkmarks men are looking for in a life long relationship, none of these immature games. Definitely rare today since evil spirits have heavily influenced today's society through social media & internet (narciccism). Discern spirits. God's appointed timing. Patience, but be willing to go out as much as possible to expose yourself outside, not locked up in a room. Don’t sit idle, God does not work with slothful laziness.
It doesn't worth the hassle anymore, simple as that Generally, I prefer to live free in solitude rather than having to deal with daily misunderstandings, arguments, commitments , sacrifices, or trying to be "cool" everyday in fear of losing her. F*ck it's too much, it's exhausting.
