Why USC & UCLA joining Big Ten is great for college football | Colin Cowherd Podcast 

Remember Clemson?

The Big 10 outside of Ohio St has not been good on a national championship level for 25 years. It just has a lot of viewers, the product itself is Ohio St and the 11 dwarfs.

@@mcleananderson4948 True, but there are literally 3 teams, (now maybe 4 with Georgia, but I’m not 100% sold yet) that are NC caliber programs. Alabama, OSU, and Clemson. And now that Clemson seems to have lost it’s luster, it might be just OSU and Bama. lol

@@liberalshaveitallbackwards4667 LSU has a chance with the caliber of talent they can get, Texas A&M as well. I do think Southern Cal can get back on track. But the Big 10 is overrated as super power, they make $, they just don't win the big prize.

@@mcleananderson4948 OSU is NOT overrated. But this is Alabama’s world, and we all just live in it. lol

Joel Klatt is a tool...so that's great 👍

$6 a gallon for gas doesn't bother someone like Colin, he's probably one of those people who doesn't notice all of the homeless in the LA area.

Yeah, this dude is a very shortsighted clown. This decision will fail in 10-15 years, just you watch

I mean that’s always the case in a capitalistic society. Some thrive, others don’t.

@@utcnc7mm $6/gallon for gas good for Gulf and ExxonMobil. Finally they can make some money

@@bryanbaumgartner5302 or china and the demoncrats with their get rich climate change hoax

Man I can’t wait big time games no matter what let’s go

Once every 12 years?

@@smithyman33 Two national programs? I think they will meet a little more frequently. But for every small school I have watched get whipped by second stringers, it’s good to know at least one of those cupcake games will be gone.

The average conference record is 4.5-4.5. Someone has to lose every game. If you have the best schools in a conference half of them will be losers. Will it be USC or UCLA that will become a loser team in the B1G?

Why? So that USC can blow Bitchigan out on their own field?

and I’m sure he’s loving it and looking forward to the challenge. 😉

Much Different story Oklahoma fans want at least a Division Title every year. USC wants competitive every year.

@@erthlionblupanthr no SC wants to get back to where they belong and they will, even bama had shitty yrs before saban.

Man you Lincoln haters let it go whatever it is he has to compete

@@usctrojans1626 who hurt you Sooners who hurt you ? 😂

Maybe so, but don’t forget half of the current B1G is meh to garbage - Rutgers, Purdue, IU, Maryland, Northwestern, Nebraska, Minnesota and Illinois.

@@theogeo14 I'd say Purdue and and Minnesota are a bit above "meh", but the rest you mentioned are meh to garbage. Purdue won 9 games last year and beat Tennessee in a bowl game; one in Nashville, Tennessee to boot. And Minnesota also won 9 games last year and 11 a couple seasons ago. Even Northwestern is usually a 7-8 win team but have had a couple bad seasons recently. But Rutgers Maryland and Nebraska are essentially dumpster fires. And I'll never get why Illinois, a great school that is the flagship university of a state with a large population has been trash for so long. It has always perplexed me, especially since they've been the worst big ten team for decades now. They can't even get a "meh" season every now and then.

@@Jon.A.Scholt Illinois will be back as a Wisconsin-like power team in a few seasons. In the meantime, we get to enjoy Chip Kelly vs Jeff Brohm. 😁

the big house in Michigan Ohio State Penn State stadiums hold over 100.000 the usc UCLA stadiums are nothing even Wisconsin and Michigan State House over 80,000

@@starwarsfannumber Seems someone has never been to Los Angeles or Pasadena. The Rose Bowl seats 88K and the Coliseum seats 78K.

I’m tempted to make a trip out there

In the Horseshoe and Happy Valley too. All night games for Fox. Big time ratings

@@joshuagray5094 if your lucky enough to get ticket

And win. Both LA teams are horrible

@Rob AGREE BUT for the LA SCHOOLS IS ABOUT $$$

@@bash8257 USC IS TOP DOG

@@davidjasso178 Michigan, Michigan ST, and Ohio State hang 40 on the top dawg

@@Letsg0brand0n don't be envious of USC 9 CHAMPIONSHIPS ,more than any of the teams you mentioned.

Yeah, it would be, once in early December every other year or so. Not if you are a student athlete who has to fly to Michigan in late January, and then play Blue on Thursday and Green on Saturday. Ridiculous!

@@ARIZJOE not like they fly back to Cali. They would stay in the area.

@@jetli24 Yeah, I kinda caught on it would be like UDub on Thursday and Wazzu on Saturday. Duh. Nonetheless, that is too much travel for a student athlete. It's worse than football with lost classroom time.

Anti Trust ?

Some schools like wash st, Cal and Oregon st are really MWC schools that have been lucky to be in a major conference

Right, UofO and Oregon State, Cal, UDub and Wazzu. I feel bad for them I really do, they should combine with the Big 12. BUT this CA girl says Go Trojans! Go Bruins! I too want to see both play better cache teams. 2024 can't come soon enough.

The Utes did this ! Usc and UCLA are sick of losing and running from Utah - losers.

That’s if more teams don’t leave the Big12. West Virginia/Iowa State/Kansas would be a decent fit for the B1G, and Oklahoma State probably SEC

The Big 12 screwed up. They went panic shopping when Texas and Oklahoma left. What would they rather have right now 4 g5 schools that noone else was going to try to sweep in and take anytime soon or 4 other open spots to offer whoever is left out of the Big Ten SEC expansion fest from the Pac 12, and ACC? If they held pat then maybe we would have a Pac 12 BIG 12 ACC merger .. but no room now. IMO The Big Ten is taking 2 more from the Pac 12 and Notre Dame and a handful more from the ACC to get to 24 and the SEC takes a few but stops at 20.

@@YoWhatGoesHere yup, the Big12 should have looked to merge with the pac instead of picking up Cinci and Houston. Now the Big12 and Pac12 are scrambling, and ACC might be limited with expansion since the SEC and B1G are geographically better to pick up more teams from the south and west

@@austinparker4708 the pac did not want to merge last year!! Big 12 would have explored all options. Rumor is a handful of PAC schools thought they were too good. That's why I feel no sorrow for the big 12 raiding the PAC

Once every 12 years?

More like 85 degrees in November, lol! We don’t start to cool off till December.

Next, add Hawaii and Alaska. Oh, and American Samoa Community College.

What he is overlooking us how this is killing the conference and these original pac-10 teams remaining. Cal and Stanford fans are all looking to when they play usc and ucla. The conference is going to suffer in a major way.

@@ObiAmajoyiSrMD If anyone else leaves, for any reason, I'm pretty sure the PAC 12 will be done. We in the BIG XII faced the same near death experience thing last year. Good luck to you. (And if you die, we'll take Oregon, Washington, Arizona and Cal please, or maybe Colorado or Utah instead of Cal if they don't want to fly to West Virginia) 🙂

I, .like you, feel the same way. He does not mention the big losers. These are Oregon State, Utah, Colorado, and eventually the ACC teams not invited to the SEC, big 12 teams not poached, etc.. These teams now have no big games to play since they are relegated to baby ball. How full are the stadiums of non power five schools? Not very, since they are not in a power 5 conference. Now many more teams will left out in the cold since they are not be in the power 2. And with these teams more or less kicked out of the sport, the fans of these schools lose interest in college football in general, since they don't have a team anymore. Graduates of Washington State have "no dog in the race" anymore. Like consider soccer, where the top teams wanted to form their own league. The fans hated it, even the fans of teams who would leave for the exclusive league. A better idea is to just have a larger playoff format as in soccer and all other college sports and a smaller regular season as is done in basketball. Then we would get those big games and a schedule of traditional rivals where lots of schools have a shot of going far. A team would have to "earn" its way to big games, rather than having it guaranteed to them, or taken away from them, regardless of what they do on the field. Imagine a playoff football format that would have given that undefeated Boise State team a chance. With the super conference idea, we have the opposite. All but 36 teams are eliminated before the first game. And as far as watching a good game, why would an NC state fan bother to watch Ohio State versus Alabama. The quality is low compared to the NFL or even the Canadian league. College football grows when we expand the base of people with a stake. Include USF into the mix, and then we gain the people from that school as fans of college football. Don't go the opposite direction.

A broken clock is right 2 times a day. 😂

Agreed. I can totally see Ohio State leaving 40 degree Columbus in November and flying into Southern Cal in 75 degree weather to get ready for their primetime matchup -- everyone sounds like winners here 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And besides USC / UCLA always has the last week of the season. And USC & UCLA will likely have atleast 3 home games in November. Maybe the Big Ten adopts what the SEC does as well ( one non conference home game in November) then USC can have Fresno St or whomever at home

west coast doesn't watch

As an OSU fan I'm all for Oregon and Washington joining the Big Ten, if the Big 10 can get Notre Dame to join then you're going to see all kinds of good games.

@@Cooliron24 as a college football fan i want the remaining notable pac 12 members to join. IE the nor cal schools, oregon and Washington. That way you’ll have 3 divisions and be able to rotate divisional playing partners and some familiar travel grounds.

@@joshuagarner1654 Washington does

Washington and Oregon will be in a very tough spot now because the big 10 doesn't want them, at least not yet and 4 other schools (Utah, Col, AZ schools) are bout to leave for the big 12 so they are in a bad situation right now.

@@crewman9178 I have always been a fan of Wisconsin! I would love to catch a game in the LA Coliseum against you guys! Thanks for the warm welcome!

well, now yall getting them big ten money(80-100mil per year) that will pay off your 100 mil debt on your sport

@@toommylee3362 What are you talking about? That doesn’t make any sense.

@@elijahmendez1476 oops I confuse usc with ulca lmao my bad

USC didn't drag UCLA along; they both applied and got unanimous approval by the 14 B1G members.

You act like they don't play cold weather games I'm Oregon and Washington State😂😂

@@tommybennett7907 Hey man, Im not saying anything other than I've always been an advocate for bowl games to be played in both warm and cold weather...

Yeah that'll be about like the dolphins playing at Green Bay during a blizzard

@@tommybennett7907 but now it's literally every team but them

@@jonnybgood5764 There are always freezing temps, wind, rain and snow in East WA and Oregon. Trust me even I didnt believe it till I got there for a USC vs Wazzu game. USC played great in regular jerseys but I was a popcicle (even tho I was dressed for the below freezing temp) and I've been to Siberia Russia and Harbin, China!

What about the other sports. We are so focused on football we forget that there are hundreds of students at these universities who play on a team sport but will go pro in something other than athletics. What about them? What happens academically to the kid going to Michigan who has to be spend 8 of the next 14 days 1000+ miles away from campus to compete in a Thursday afternooner against USC this week and a Wednesday midday next week against UCLA? Meanwhile finals start 2 Mondays from now. Do you see why this is bad for college sports?

But lived in CA for many yrs and now FL...though I am sure he has many homes.

Completely agree they will lose 8 or more games a year, and frankly I think SC will lose 5 games a year. Neither are Pac12 cream

@@MrYatesj1 yeah okay with all them so cal recruits they will Forsure lose to a Wisconsin, Nebraska , Maryland , northwestern 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

USC and UCLA are historic rivals. UCLA does not have any other rivals as far as I can tell. USC's other chief rival historically has been Notre Dame.

I would think that it would be UCLA and USC in the west and Purdue goes to the east.

@@smokin19861 for sure. Have indiana and Purdue as rivals in the east together. Wish Notre Dame would join the B1G. Imagine Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Notre Dame all in the east 😅

UCLA will not pass muster, fan base wise or athletic product on the field.

@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 Thank you for your contribution, and we shall see. 🗿

@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 Well, Bruins should be a good team. All the coaching failures, including Kelly's are a puzzlement. I tell you what, if I were the Rose Bowl I'd evict them from their lease contract under the morals clause. UCLA will probably end up bussing the student body to the Rams' place.

@@ARIZJOE I hope you are right. I personally dont have any faith in UCLA. I think in general the UC system has a whole different angle with the recruitment of foreign students. Once upon a time UCLA and even Cal would field decent teams from time to time. It feels like those days are over. USC, a private university with a focus on its athletic reputation, will continue to excel in football. UCLA in hoops, but not on the gridiron.

@@robjohnston366 Oh please believe USC we will pack the house now that we have competent coaching. FUCLA won't and big ten fans will out number there fans 😂. But it's FUCLA so we don't care. FUCLA basketball will fill up because that's all they care about.

Expand playoffs and this super conference crap wouldn't be happening. My team in the mix regardless.

The relegation thing would never work in the US in either college or pro sports for a lot of reasons, but the main one is investment. My home town is about to help our NFL team build a $2+ billion stadium. The team's been good for the last few years but before that they were terrible. In college football there are teams that haven't been good for the last few years like Texas or Tennessee or USC who have put big big money into their sports programs, and there's no way the fans or the even the state governments would allow them to be relegated.

@@grapeskiddles That has nothing to do with it Jamie. USC and UCLA don't care about a "chance" to make a expanded playoff. They are going to the big 10 because they will make twice the money that the pac 12 pays.

Sounds like you'd be better off watching the NFL. Taking the college teams out of the colleges? What are you talking about lol

@@ipicard431 Real life.

Iowa has had some very good teams recently, most would probably beat USC heads up over the last 10 years. This move will be great for the league and all teams.

Yep, that's why it's the same 5 or 6 teams almost every year angling for playoff spots.

Title lX ensures that the "minor" (subsidized) sports are not going away, not within the BigTen and SEC anyway. A lot of cutting/rebalancing of budgets has already been done and that has largely been played-out. The "student-athlete concept" still exists in these "minor" sports, but not much/never did in football and basketball.

3-8

@@DrPhill96 = Well, he listed 9 teams above ... so maybe 1-8

@@Jaems_Scott - Surly they will beat the two cupcakes at the beginning.

@@DrPhill96 hahaa the two of you guys are fans of who exactly ? Please tell me so I can remind you of the years you guys sucked ass as well. It happens to everyone.

@@DrPhill96 = Who knows ... maybe they bring back the Tie

Congratulations, y'all deserve the recognition. Always been a great brand.

@@lorenzohaynes3886 thank you! I appreciate that! The Big Ten has a great tradition with awesome fans and I can't wait to be part of it.

Half of all teams HAVE to lose. It's the math. Will UCLA be the loser team or USC?

@@aCycloneSteve alot can happen in 2 years. Recruiting/coach changes. It's hard to tell now who will be more successful when they join the Big Ten.

@@lsdemon7773 True, but the math remains the same. Half of all teams must lose every week.

nobody cares about it.

@@grobble8954 nope not true

@@fadercreek You really have no idea what realignment is about. Baseball is irrelevant.

@@grobble8954 it's about money

Lincoln will have 2 "easy" years in the PAC to get a Championship before going B1G. So we will see.

Lol I swear these Big 10 fans think there the SEC gauntlet..sorry after Ohio state...USC can easily match up with the rest of them..give Lincoln a year of recruiting, Ohio state and SC will be the two big dogs. Let's not forget a Helton SC team won the Rose bowl against the Big 10 champs Penn state.

@@rainmaker1169 not gonna happen

@@waltciii3 i don't think he can win a championship in 2 years

@@rainmaker1169 I just asking colin lol..because he always mocked OU for moving to SEC as the reason why Lincolen left that prog....on the other hand..OU always have top 5 recruiting class under Lincoln but still gettin' torched in the CFBP....and he bring the same DC to USC.

There hasnt been a good USC v big 10 in long time

@@frankarden4852 Penn State VS USC 2017 Rose Bowl. One of the greatest games in the history of College Football..

@@casmierekelly389 when was the last time USC won a natty? I don’t understand why we give so much weight to UT, USC, and UCLA. IMO you cant have a successful college team in a big city because there are other things people would rather do (Austin has grown significantly in size). I would say OU will be the only team that will be competitive because OU is the economy of Norman.

Let them go the ACC and die? cracking up Notre Dame is a national brand. I'm pretty sure they're set no matter what changes in the future

@@frankarden4852 you don’t know what you are talking about

budget surplus daddy

Colin’s being Colin, there’s no place on earth where the economy is great. But the California is doing ok, especially for those who make over $80k as an individual or 150k a year for a couple or family. We’re doing fine. In fact a hell of a lot better than most states. And you can’t beat the weather. But it is expensive to live here, and always has been(location, location location).

Brian Kelly to LSU and Texas/Oklahoma joining the SEC guarantees that. I think he retires after this season. He knows his time is up.

Steve Sarkisian is a very good recruiter but a poor game day coach. As a UT-Austin alum, I'm not expecting great results from Sark. He will be gone by 2025.

well.... not all games will be great!!

He will still have 2 years to make himself look good😒 watch him be ranked top 3 the year they enter big 10

You'd be surprised then. Its freezing temps, snow, winds, ice in east WA and OR. I should know I was unfortunate to be at many of those games dressed for it but much colder than my time in a Siberian winter or Harbin China winter. USC was as cool as ever playing. However, nowadays the new thin tech material will do the trick if temp get much lower than. Plus USC has played at NDame and Ann Arbor before no problems. Those schools have a long and loyal history with USC and USC has with them. You can believe Notre Dame will not be far off in the future if USC is there in the B10. SC will have all its favorite rival teams playing every season. Win-Win.

@@AnnLeiSoCal Sorry Ann I have been to Wa. and OR many times in the dead of winter no comparsion to the wind chills of the Mid west and i grew up in So Cal know a lot of kids that went to USC and they will all tell u they hate playing in the cold why do u think SC wont come to ND past Oct it is even written into there contract they want nothing to do with South Bend in Nov just a pure fact.

Fresno St and the other Mountain West schools are right where they should be and will remain. Remainder of the PAC12 schools will either be joining the BigTen or Big Xll. If you get lucky WSU and/or OSU get left behind and join the Mountain West. Be careful what you wish for, they would kick a lot of MWC butt.

Fresno state in the pac 12 would be dangerous they have big names in the nfl “Derek carr & davante Adams” to recruit players there and there’s a lot of talent to keep in the valley section of California that can compete with anyone in the country

BigTen teams will be earning roughly 3X what the PAC12 teams are getting from their TV contract. That's why UCLA and USC are leaving. Some winnowing out is in order because if they were all to stay in the PAC12, their lower revenue makes them susceptible to having their best coaches poached and top athletes/recruits lured away by schools with more money to work with. The PAC12 has been slowly sliding toward mediocrity, and NIL will accelerate that unless you have some very rich alumni (like Miami) that are willing to pay rising high school seniors $10 million to sign with their school. However, the current unrestrained NIL cannot go on for very long without some implosions.

@@53toddk you make perfect sense. Wondering if the revenue sharing could have been based on actual ratings to a degree - that say the Big 10 schools get 60-70% and the Pac 12 schools get the balance, and then have an incentive pay-out based on TV ratings if game is televise - with both conferences transitioning to the same network Fox, ESPN, or CBS. I want to believe that there could have been some mathematical way to keep the popular schools happy and kept both conferences as is - say a % based on available viewers and actual viewers, etc etc. Then the school getting the better viewership get a bigger piece of the pie most likely Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Penn St, USC, and UCLA. The Rose Bowl might never be the same.

@@jacksonj3082 I believe that all conference members equally share total annual TV revenues generated by their conference, and I expect this will continue with the addition of USC & UCLA. Doing it game by game based on TV ratings would be tedious, nor would I favor this. Penn State has a lot of alumni living in the New York metro, but you don't try to calculate what percentage of the New York TV viewers are Rutgers or PSU fans. If, for example, Michigan were to receive 75% of the revenue generated by a game vs. Northwestern and 65% when playing Indiana, then you would hear some grumbling from schools getting the short end of the stick. This helps keep the Northwestern and Wake Forest athletic departments from sinking into a financial abyss, and it is tough for them anyway even when this is divvied-up equally. On the other hand, I believe the big guys like Michigan get to keep a high (but slightly variable) percentage of revenue generated from ticket sales, concessions, parking, and merchandise for each game. There has to be a significant reward for good performance on these metrics, and if Northwestern has fewer ticket sales, etc. for their home games they have to live with that. Visiting teams get a pre-determined payout per game regardless of attendance, etc. However, I could be wrong about this, these are simply my understandings of how this stuff works. If I'm wrong I hope someone corrects me.

how is that when sc hasnt been winning?

@@mmmmcolbert8787 USC wasn’t winning cause they had a bonehead head coach and athletic director. Neither of which are the case anymore lol.

I get what you're saying, but you can't have a winning team unless you also have a losing team. Is USC or UCLA going to be the losing team in the B1G? SOMEONE has to lose. and that loser is always going to be subsidized by the winner. That's just how it works. If you made a conference of all dominant teams half of them would become losers. That's the math.

@@aCycloneSteve UCLA football is always a loser. USC will have more national exposure and with NIL in place What kid isn’t gonna want to come out west with an offensive minded coach and make millions instead of being at some school in the middle of nowhere making far less.

@@97NikeSb So UCLA will be a loser team mooching off USC, but that's OK. It's only bad when Oregon State does it?