Why was Tom Brady NOT the #1 Draft Pick? 

Watching the film, to me, Brady looks significantly better in 2001 than he did in college. They read his talent right, they just didn’t know he was gonna become obsessive about every little detail. Brady had enough talent to be a reliable starter but it was his obsessive nature that made him great

It is still strange. Lamar Jackson was picked at 32 and really pissed when that happened. Before him were Darnold and Rosen for example. This year Achane was picked at 84, he looked to me like the nr. 3 pick behind Young and Stroud.

Agree, Brady going to the worst team in the 2000 draft; Cleveland Browns; Brady would have likely gotten injured and struggled early in his career.

The Patriots were 5-11 in 2000. Belichick was on his way to getting fired before Bledsoe got hurt. The Patriots was not this bed of roses situation in 2001 when he became starter.

You kidding me?? Look at the Patriots after Brady left.

also consider the fact that Tom essentially played in 2 eras. The 2000s were more defensive and less pass friendly.

Sad

I watched Brady at Michigan and thought he might be a good backup or spot starter in the NFL. He was a good college QB, not a great one. Nobody here was shocked that he wasn't drafted higher.

You could also say similar things about Joe Montana.

@@billdang3953 I think Montana had more people interested in him than Brady. Sam Wyche said that there were fights in other teams' draft rooms over Montana. One example was in Green Bay. Scout Red Cochrane had watched him for four years at ND, and said that he just wins (sounds like Tebow). He was beside himself when Bart Starr took two guys from Maryland in Rounds 2 and 3 that didn't make much impact. Besides the Packers, there were other interested teams. The Bears were all set to take Joe early in Round 3, but Jim Finks got retarded and took a backup for Payton that fizzled. The Chiefs' QB coach (Kay Dalton) liked Montana, but their a@@hat team president (Jack Steadman) forced them to trade back into Round 1 and take the crappy Steve Fuller. Also, the Cowboys would have taken him if they didn't have three QB's, and Todd Haley's dad (who was an assistant with the Steelers in 1979) liked Montana.

Will to _cheat_ to win you mean. Not will to win. Had he not cheated, then his will would have not been enough. Why does everyone consistently overlook this? Do you all _want_ to look up to cheats?

@@choosecarefully408 because he didn't do anything any other quarterback hasn't tried. Let's be real this is sports player's and coaches will do anything they can to get the upper hand.

@@bradstrayer485 Sometimes people say more by leaving stuff out. Jerry Rice admitted to using something that was technically illegal according to The Written Rules in the NFL at that time. If everyone else did, then what you just said applies to him. Deflate-gate _and_ the illegal recording of other teams' practices had been going on *for years* before either was discovered. One was uncovered *during a playoff game.* Simply reverse this. Had it been Brady & Bellichick who had _lost_ due to another team doing this to them, would we ever have heard the end of it? It's something quite interesting in the American Psyche. We want heroes, but we don't want to look _too_ high to see them. So we dismiss their faults. But imagine Tom having to explain to his own kids once they're old enough how or why he did that. I doubt it would do well for their self-esteem for him to just say "others _would have_ done the same." Wtf does that even _mean_ when others all had that exact same opportunity & _didn't_ do it? It's utterly empty rhetoric.

@@choosecarefully408 You are extremely naive to believe that the Patriots were the ONLY team to film practices, or try to use tactics to win. Secondly, deflategate is the dumbest excuse any Brady/Patriots haters use. The difference in PSI is minimal, not enough to provide a benefit. The required PSI is 12.5-13.5, 11 of the 12 balls tested at 11.5-12 PSI. Again I want to reiterate that you would be extremely naive to believe other teams didn't do things like film practices, or try and get coaches play books. I sincerely hope you don't genuinely believe that to be true.

@@Shurtz2012 1) We have evidence that the Patriots filmed others teams' practices. 2) You have none that any other team did so. 3) An assertion that they tried to or that they weren't the only ones _to_ try to means... what? That it's not illegal? 4) So if deflate-gate was not effective, again, what is that supposed to mean? That it shouldn't be illegal? Is diminishing its effects just something you do out of total ignorance? Or is it to make the Patriots more stupid for risking doing it? Have _you_ ever played football with or without these differences in psi & can you tell the difference? Hey, why not go all the way & imply it made life _harder_ for the team? After all, they'd only bothered doing it for years. You can't have it both ways. It either was cheating or it wasn't worth doing/risking fines, suspension, heck, total ejection from the league. Also, again, reverse it. Who wants to be the ones to lose to cheats? One way or another, it tarnishes everything. It's like steroids & baseball. Mark McGwire wouldn't have made the majors without 'em, & it diminishes what hitters like Stan Musial or Willie Mays did. & if it "weren't a big deal" no one would _do_ 'em. 5) Btw, saying that other teams also try & would love to film other teams' practices kind of _emphasizes that_ it's illegal & always should be, not diminishes, dismisses or reduces its impact.

There are visible metrics and invisible metrics. The great teams/scouts can see the invisible metrics. There are many variables. Because the player has to take advantage of the opportunity he is given and the team needs to do everything they can to provide the best environment for their players to develop. That is a short summary. It is a lot more complex than that. You are always welcome to join us. Hopefully, you can learn something from our videos.

To be fair to pennington he played with the jets and dolphins in the early 2000s

@@why-km6lo truuue but he was also barely healthy, Rams just lost star power, but put Pennington on the Rams you think they continue?

@@MShot98 Peninnington was barely healthy because the Jets and Dolphins couldn’t protect him. That being said, Brady probably would have never gotten the chance to become Brady had he been drafted by the Jets, either. Nor would he have even been allowed to continue in the starting QB role on most other teams after their QB1 came back from injury. So Brady’s success is as much to do with who drafted him (Patriots, with Belicheck willing to trust in him long term) and when he was drafted (late 6th round so no pressure to perform immediately on a garbage team with no protection) as it was with his abilities. That being said, Brady made absolutely sure that when he got his chance, he would be able to take advantage of his shot, because he knew he might not get a second chance. So from the time he was drafted, he made sure that he kept working and improving his play (which he continued to do throughput his career). He could have resigned himself to being a career backup (which is usually best case scenario for late round picks), but he refused. It’s said that the first day of training camp, he showed up and told one of his coaches (don’t remember which coach) that he (Brady) was the best pick the Patriots ever made.

@@powerofk Pennington never had the greatest throwing power in the first place and two torn rotator cuffs doesn’t help but what’s your point in telling me something a patriots and Brady fan that knows all that for? I don’t get what you’re saying

@@powerofk I was talking about bulger and Pennington, other than Brady those were the better QBs in the draft. We all know Brady’s story lol

why wasnt that defense winning championships before then?

mostly because of Michigan University politics. They only started Henson because there were donors to appease. And they didnt want Henson to solely commit to baseball.

excellent pieces like Troy Brown? a 5-11 roster?

He was never drafted with the intention of becoming a starter. At the time, the mindset was hed be a backup and they already signed Drew Bledsoe to a massive contract. He was no project I can tell you that. And no he was elite even in his 3rd season, not average.

There were seven rounds; 252 picks in the draft.

He made his team better; not sure how that validates your comment?

I appreciate your comment, it is an excellent take Gio!

Explain the MVP worthy numbers Brady put up his first two seasons with Tampa. At worst Brady is third behind Montana and Unitas.

Dude he had to ball out in two of those first three superbowls, you are coping hard.

In your delusional mind.. Maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️