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Why We Left Portland 

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Quillette‘s Jonathan Kay talks to two ex-Portlanders-Nancy Rommelmann and Michael Totten-about how the COVID-19 pandemic and a year of violent protests turned their once beloved city into a fractured, downwardly mobile arena for America’s culture war.
This podcast was first aired 28 Mar 2021: quillette.com/2021/03/28/podc...
Sources discussed in this podcast include:
Leaving Portland, by Michael Totten
The Internet Locusts Descend on Ristretto Roasters, by Nancy Rommelmann
‘You’re Not Allowed To Film’: The Fight To Control Who Reports From Portland, by Nancy Rommelmann
American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America, by Colin Woodward
Nancy Rommelmann is an American author, journalist, and documentary filmmaker. She has written extensively on a range of topics, including culture, society, crime, and current events. Rommelmann has contributed to various publications, including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Reason, The Oregonian, and The Guardian.
Rommelmann has a diverse body of work, often focusing on human stories and exploring the complexities of individuals and communities. She has covered topics such as true crime, homelessness, urban development, and social issues.
In addition to her writing, Rommelmann has directed and produced documentary films. One notable project is "The 8th Day," which examines the impact of wrongful convictions and the work of the Innocence Project.
Michael Totten is an American author, journalist, and foreign correspondent who has covered conflicts and political developments in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and other regions. He has written extensively on his experiences and observations from his travels, providing on-the-ground reporting and analysis.
Totten has contributed to various publications, including The Atlantic, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and World Affairs Journal. He has also authored several books, including "Tower of the Sun: Stories from the Middle East and North Africa" and "The Road to Fatima Gate: The Beirut Spring, the Rise of Hezbollah, and the Iranian War Against Israel."
His work often explores the complexities of regional conflicts, political movements, and cultural dynamics. Totten has ventured into areas such as Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Egypt, Israel, and others, reporting on events and interviewing a wide range of individuals to provide nuanced perspectives on the ground.
As a journalist and author, Totten has received recognition for his reporting and writing. He has been a fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and has received grants and awards for his work.
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Quillette is an Australian based online magazine that focuses on long-form analysis and cultural commentary. It is politically non-partisan, but relies on reason, science, and humanism as its guiding values.
Quillette was founded in 2015 by Australian writer Claire Lehmann. It is a platform for free thought and a space for open discussion and debate on a wide range of topics, including politics, culture, science, and technology.
Quillette has gained attention for publishing articles and essays that challenge the heterodoxy on a variety of topics, including gender and sexuality, race and identity politics, and free speech and censorship.
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@UNCIVILIZE
@UNCIVILIZE 10 месяцев назад
Journalist Andy NGO JUST got awarded 300,000 in his case!!
@BrianHill
@BrianHill Год назад
These guys underestimate what a large number of middle-of-the-road liberals give cover for the small number of very violent black bloc members, even though the sympathizers wouldn't even consider throwing bricks themselves. Since these two lived there I have to deeply respect their assessment, but I've seen these crowds up close too.
@benqurayza7872
@benqurayza7872 Год назад
You're on point. These moderate liberals are usually office workers who don't understand how shopkeepers and small landlords are vulnerable to street violence and the risk of losing it all.
@MrsRitchieBlackmore
@MrsRitchieBlackmore 10 месяцев назад
YES YES YES. My dad and stepmom live in Hillsboro (a Portland suburb). Very good upstanding "moderates" (radical leftists, by Virginia standards, but middle of the road by Oregon standards) and, to my shock/horror, support ANTIFA! My dad, the same guy who wouldn't even lend me a quarter for gum because I hadn't "worked for it" was supporting these disgusting freeloading criminals. The mindset in that area is really unbelievable.
@billbadson7598
@billbadson7598 Год назад
I'm constantly blown away hearing people talk about enormous cities as if they are small towns, and speaking of it disdainfully. This is where the real divide is: between people who can only exist in NY and LA, with occasional flights between them, and everybody else on the planet. I can't even put myself in that place mentally.
@johnstewart7025
@johnstewart7025 Год назад
It seems that is the real political divide. However, climate change push us closer together.
@MrsRitchieBlackmore
@MrsRitchieBlackmore 10 месяцев назад
Oh, I totally agree. I remember telling a NYC-er I lived in Virginia and they were like, "oh, do you live on a FARM?" Um, no, there's a little place called Washington DC right next door, and the metro area has sprawled out over as far south as Charlottesville, Va! I live in NoVa and it's (sadly) 95% pavement. The only people who can afford farms are multimillionaire lobbyists and senators! 😂 But to lots of them, it's NYC or LA, and everything else is a vast agricultural nothingness.
@billbadson7598
@billbadson7598 10 месяцев назад
@@MrsRitchieBlackmore cities with hundreds of thousands of people, and "there's nothing to do here." lol
@UNCIVILIZE
@UNCIVILIZE 10 месяцев назад
I'm in Humboldt County, and you're so right - this part of the country is a mix of hardy loggers and truckers as well as hippies and artists. We probably have more in common with each other in isolated natural Humboldt than with city folk.
@jeeed6390
@jeeed6390 Год назад
Thank you, thank you. This spells out the situation much more clearly than we’ve heard yet. Better than Andy NGO’s even.
@Cotictimmy
@Cotictimmy 10 месяцев назад
Sitting here in Southampton (Southern England) it's great to hear from calm & rational Americans - who don't spout lunatic partisan talking points every time they open their mouths.
@unitedstatesofpostamerica7559
Just now leaving Portland…..
@johnstewart7025
@johnstewart7025 Год назад
"Homage to Catalonia": George Orwell said late 1930s anarchist Spain was the only place he had ever been where everyone was radically equal. Officers in army were paid the same as the privates. Officers had to convince young soldiers when they wanted something done.
@johnmacrae2006
@johnmacrae2006 10 месяцев назад
@johnstewart7025 “Officers had to convince young soldiers when they wanted something done” . No wonder they lost 😂
@benqurayza7872
@benqurayza7872 Год назад
Good discussion about Portland culture. Too passive aggressive for this New Yorker. Michael referred to "American Nations", a good book by Colin Woodard.
@ChollieD
@ChollieD Год назад
That's my problem. I'm allergic to passive aggression and liable to respond with aggressive aggression. 'I'll show you oppression!'
@MrsRitchieBlackmore
@MrsRitchieBlackmore 10 месяцев назад
When I lived in Portland, I invited a coworker to attend a concert with me. He said "it sounds like fun!" Crucially, he never said yes or no (WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN MY HINT!) I got two tickets and honestly thought we were good to go until the day before, when he seemed surprised I got two tickets..he had other plans and didn't really like that band, anyway. I asked why he didn't just say so to begin with, and he said I should've gotten his "drift." 🤪
@exbronco
@exbronco 11 месяцев назад
I'm happy for them, seriously. Portland's a bad place.
@dale9724
@dale9724 10 месяцев назад
Jonathan Kay is a terrific interviewer and writer. Great interview. Thanks.
@ASM881
@ASM881 10 месяцев назад
Fred and Carrie should do a sketch about them leaving because of all the fentanyl.
@semperfidelis6943
@semperfidelis6943 Год назад
What a nightmare.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 10 месяцев назад
"Hearing coyotes at night is better than hearing broken windows." I've lived in both paradigms, and I agree. The ONLY things I advise for people hearing coyotes for the first time: 1. Coyotes are shy and generally like to avoid people, so just enjoy their songs, I love falling asleep to coyotes at night 😌 knowing they're keeping mice and rats under control 2. However, if any of your dogs are smaller than the local rabbits (mine is, as you can see) just put a flashing (lighted, NOT just reflective!) collar on him or her at night. That scares both coyotes and birds of prey like owls, who can't carry off small dogs but can kill them 3. Don't leave trash in plastic bags out at night. A hungry coyote may raid it, especially if you have a lot of food scraps. We woke up one morning to see fish bones and dog food cans scattered all over our driveway, lol. No problem now that we use tall plastic bins
@BlueSkyGal777
@BlueSkyGal777 2 месяца назад
Ted Wheeler murdered portland, my home town.
@johndoeboston123
@johndoeboston123 10 месяцев назад
I love Quillette, but this was kind of boring. Both guests complained about the problems in Portland as one might complain about bad weather. But if you've already seen some video of the Portland riots, then you won't learn anything new. No challenging questions, no discussion about specific mistakes, or suggestions on how other cities can avoid ending up like Portland.
@velocitor3792
@velocitor3792 Год назад
"The Seeds of Albion" might be the book you're thinking of.
@mgkos
@mgkos Год назад
Perfidious Albion was what England was called by Europe & indeed Russia’s the biggest country in Europe, so she as well.
@velocitor3792
@velocitor3792 Год назад
@@mgkos Admiral Nelson was called "The Sword of Albion"
@mgkos
@mgkos Год назад
@@velocitor3792 indeed The Brits not minding their own business invading other countries, model for US.
@johnmacrae2006
@johnmacrae2006 10 месяцев назад
@@mgkos Our flag has quite the resemblance to the East India Company’s pre-Revolutionary War ensign. Perhaps there’s a connection.
@Gary-zq3pz
@Gary-zq3pz 10 месяцев назад
Never been there, now I know I'll never visit Portland. It's a Plague city.
@holidaytrout5174
@holidaytrout5174 Год назад
The party of peace, justice and empathy lol
@norahjaneeast5450
@norahjaneeast5450 10 месяцев назад
I want out too So I was one and a quarter mile from the federal courthouse so I heard all of the rioting which I was also watching so one side would throw a firework mortar as well as when the police would throw a flashbang I would hear it about eight seconds later as well as being near the old Washington High School where a lot of the Organization for these rioting so all the helicopters all the insane Anarchy until they tore down a Washington statue after that they stopped using Washington High School renamed Revolution Hall apparently a very nice place to see a concert or have some other events anyway we were sort of the city that everybody wanted to go to now everyone wants to flee
@tlockerk
@tlockerk Год назад
Portland is older than Santa Fe (1400s)?
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