Woman Reveals Which Men She Puts In The FRIENDZONE 

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Creating a masculine frame works on feminine women, but do you think that masculine women (which most are) will be irritated by men showing masculinity? And can that lead to confusion for a man that doesn't realize how masculine the woman he's talking to is?

There's no such thing as a friend zone. Women will always cheat on their boyfriends or husbands with you, if you are worth the thrill. In fact, the friend zone is where you get the most pussy because thats when she doesnt want any strings attached. If you're with a girl whose just calling you a friend but isnt putting out, it just means shes not attracted to you. Or it means that shes MORE attracted to her boyfriend/husband. Once you are more attractive (And that word does not *only* mean physically) then the friend zone no longer exists.

@@TheHighEvolutionaryP13 It's a fake account scammer.

Thanks Alex

Right, the reason some men stay in the friend zone is that one day they will have a chance, but what they don't understand is that only happens when she ways through their options or can't find the men they are attracted to. Basically, you're the backup, or the way my ex explained it "the idiot in waiting".

Yep either be upfront about advancing to a sexual/romantic interest, or just walk away.

Yep best way to deal with these women is by ghosting them or finding a girl that won't waste your time.

@@Boddah. Absolutely find a girl that likes you and won’t waste your time, but I respectfully beg to differ on the ghosting part; you should tell her, “look, I liked you and wanted/hoped for an exclusive relationship with you, but I see that is not going to happen, since you don’t feel attraction to me in return, so I am moving on to find someone who does,” or words to that effect. No hard feelings, no guilt trip; wish her well but make it plain that she will not be a priority in your life, since you were only ever going to be an option in hers. Make it crystal clear or otherwise she will string you along, thinking she can use you when she needs a favor, a shoulder to cry on, etc. Let her find another shoulder. Leave amiably, but leave. And don’t waver or look back.

@@tobiaslawrence8928 especially when these women hit post wall which always starts out with a Hey Stranger or Hey Big Head text followed by a bunch of bullshit followed by a bunch of lies and excuses claiming that she liked the guy for a long time and blah blah blah

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Put her in the fz before she can put you there. It works.

You have put it in a nutshell. --Old Guy

Instructions unclear. Stuck my weewee into a toaster.

Having self respect and standards ...

A cold shower a day keeps the thirst at bay...

I agree. Many men will tell you that you CAN'T be friends with women; there is always that underlying sexual interest, at least on the man's part, and she knows it. She is looking for free stuff. Don't give it to her. --Old Guy

@@Ed-ig7fj, and who says you can't have sex with your friends? If I were single and a woman I'm friends with asks, _"Would you mind terribly sexing the stuffing out of me?"_ I would be ok with that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Don’t be friends with women (as a strategy to get in their pants because it’s draining and it rarely works).

All my friendships with women ended because at some point, I didn't bother to be the only one initiating meetings and they ended it because we weren't engaging anymore. With one, it was because I started my master's degree and had no time left. I still have one female friend and we hardly meet more than once a year, but for some reason, it doesn't bother her, opposed to the others. She's not a close friend of mine (those are 3 men) and I'm not a close friend of hers, but that's fine with me. I very much value her perspective on political and social issues, relationship, and sometimes she has really good suggestions about household things. Her positive attitude is just awesome. None of us is single. She's married and I'm engaged. When Alex mentions high-quality women, I noticed that not only does my fiancée live up to this standard, but that friend as well.

@Brandon Letzco You can be friends with women, but not with most of them. It requires effort and it requires that you value her for something unrelated to being in a relationship with her.

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I agree on not playing games you can't win, you shouldn't. But you can also be honest about it, and your goals - that you're looking for a partner, not a friend. Have integrity, you know? Ghosting is a coward's way out. I know because I did it. And it was done to me. And every time it felt shitty. I decided not to be a part of the problem.

I get them to wax my back

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If you call it the friend zone you're not her friend either 🙃

@@whatever1068 if you're gonna be friends with a woman better to not be attracted to her

@@whatever1068 men don't go around saying they're in the friendzone. False equivalence!

Well said

Just curious, what's a sign that the friend zone is approaching? Is it like asking you for favors when you communicate?

It sure is an extreme take but if it works for you. I can accept friendship without too much bs, expectations and when I'm clearly not interested in anything romantic/sexual.

@@xcosmiccrunchx one sign might be the effort put in isn't equal.

@@xcosmiccrunchx for me, the sign is when that girl is no longer touches her hair while talking to me

I think the better description is naive instead of "nice".

@@agm5424 you read my mind. I actually forgot to mention naivety. But ya, I was also super nice and severely lacked social skills due to being super nerdy and introverted. Going through a phase where I'm kind of a little bit of an asshole but trying to find a middle ground where I'm able to stand up for myself without being a complete asshole.

Read “No More Mr Nice Guy” by Dr Glover

"she was trying to get married & couldn't find anyone" it's almost completely over for her at this point, oh well. You'll be fine though so keep your head on straight.

@@stevec3526 I second that. That book is life changing

Never forget: the term for friendzone they used before the welfare state was "husband material".

@@bigneiltoo the audacity

@@bigneiltoo facts. The issue is that in the minds of modern women - the qualities that make for a good boyfriend/husband aren’t “exciting” to date. And the men that excite them, lack the qualities of being a solid long term prospect

@@desmonides Today's women are all like strippers. They have sugar daddies and some loser F-boy on the side. Even when you meet an attractive woman, hit it off, make out, and are better looking than her and/or her age, she's with her F-boy later that night, financed by your tax dollars. They have a hand-held app to help them find F-boys.

@@desmonides Yes. That is the choice made by low quality women.

You're right, King. Nicely done.

Had the same with a girl from the supermarket I frequent. We walked around town and got along great. Flirted and so on. Had the talk and she went “Well I am not ready yet (she just broke up with her bf), we can still meet up right?” Me “Nope, I’ll still say hi and talk to you while shopping but that’s it.” She was so flabberghasted 😆

I once got a huge email ending with "so can we just be friends?" and (after various unsent replies) I just wrote "No." and she said "Well F off then!". A couple weeks later we had wild monkey sex and she sent love letters like no other.

@@Dhalgrim they're JUST AS IF NOT MORE! entitled & disordered than a large percentage of men. So disgusting when they are flabbergasted tbh.

@@Dhalgrim At least she did not mess you around & use you as a rebound.

its called emotional tampon. you were an emotional tampon. if they arent helping you move gravel or put up sheetrock or moving furniture or helping your K:D ratio in some FPS then its not a friendship.

Dude. Guys in a girls friendzone are her labor workforce. If you're in her fz, you work for her.

That's a good description of what the friendzone really is: a "martian" that a "venusian" expects to treat her like a "intimate partner" but doesn't want to reciprocate and treat him the same way, to treat him like a "intimate partner".

I've had sex with girl's who put me in the friendzone before. It just took time to win their trust.

You summed it up perfectly

A guy really does need to be a rube to end up in that situation.

@@Selrisitailook, stupid, I was In prison for long time 15year for aggravated arm robbery on few banks at 18 year old but I got snitched out so I didn't learn any computer skills or any technology & I'm 35 year old now. It took me 3 years to learn about hook up culture, texting skills & other social media bullshit. Anyway adapting to new world outside the prison was hard but lucky I had my insurance, it was a helper for me Live a honest life now

User I been there 2. Was brainwashed. Though at least I know the USA UK & Australia are fully of delusional trash chicks

At one point in college I decided I wanted to get laid, and finding a girlfriend was less important. I asked a bunch of women out in a short period, and if they said no I moved on and didn't try again. A bizarre thing happened. One of them ended up sleeping with me, and I started dating her. Several of the others rounded back to me and started chasing _me._ Before this I'd had little success, but ask once and ignore seemed to work like fly fishing ... present the lure, withdraw it for a while ... when you present it again briefly they might snap at it.

Sucker! 😂

What…? is she really your gf?

She probably knows at least 3 guys who have the same birthday as you and places them higher than you.

@@le_decard its just his turn

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"Friends without benefits", that is. Friends _with_ benefits might be the best option You can possibly have should she be hot and fun in the bedroom but a drama kween irl ....

I get a pedicure and back wax.

Yes, the friendzone only exists to benefit her. You know what the friend zone for a guy looks like? It's the girl that let's him come over at 3 in the morning for a piece of ass.

I think if her friends see you as her friend, they'll most likely see you as low quality and give you a pass.

You know, this is an excellent idea. I doubt most have the fortitude to see it through.

@@veetour that and if you are a chad or just super sexy they won't resist to flirt with you and fck. Trust me, female nature reveals it all, if they are thirsty over you

I should have done this more.

Nah. You'll just look like a beggar and a guy who "clings on". Dump her *ss and find someone worth your attention.

Sure, my only pushback is how women define "clear".

@@xcosmiccrunchx true

But a woman can't change her mind ?

@@Funkylover-sl7ew what do you mean?

@@razarraz8276 there are plenty of cases where successful long term committed relationships started off as strictly platonic friends

Yes, yes . . . be mindful of your training, young Chadawan, save you it can, hmmm?

@@righthandwolf306 “chadawan” 🤣

There's no relationshit emerging outta the friendzone. You either dump her and get her aware that way, or You dump her and can go cheer the good riddance.

Quite solid advice, your being cordial whilst respectfully disengaging from being potentially exploited.

Friendzoned = she wants boyfriend benefits while giving her girlfriend benefits to others.

I have not met any women who expected girlfriend benefits from a male friend. I'm sure they are out there but most of us would only expect from a friend what we ourselves are willing to do for friends.

Some call this "oneitis", & its a bad habit....

This is for guys who create attachment too easily/quickly. There are ways you can avoid this. But it's a learning process.

agree. sex is such an immediate, visceral need for men, we go from 0 to 100 when we see an attractive woman. this causes us issues. the challenge is men have to approach women, so women get the upper hand. but (particularly as I get older and the libido diminishes), putting in perspective, i have now lost count of the number of women who have such terrible personalities or are just plain incompatible. the equivalent for a woman is getting attention from a guy she is not attracted to. once the testosterone clears (and it does more so with age), you realise that if they don't actually work at it, women offer very little.

F*****g facts!

Well that's what are your thinking of a relationship as being, a table (whatever that means) were your feel you are blackmailed for access to the V....?? whatever your calling it. That's not very mature to tbh. Can't you just go for someone who is also looking for casual fun, until you get that phase of desperately wanting to get laid out your system? And perhaps you might want to find out, why you even want to be with a women? What does 3 minutes of squelching count for when the person isn't even human to you. Is it for street cred with your buddies? There's electrical equipment that can stimulate certain sexual acts probably a lot better & then you can watch porn with better looking women in it who are eternally youthful and never age.

@@redstar7292 What kinda simpster insult is that? Jubal.Harshaw is absolutely right - generation show-up prize never being harshly corrected out of their "deserving" mindset are nothing but a pain in the behind, to work with as well as to be in whatever kinda relationshit in and even to simply have 'em around is a toxic, unpleasant experience. They need to get a proper dad-treatment the right time in their upbringing to learn what it all is about. Single momma's stepdaddying friends are the wrong demographic to do that, and once they reach 20 or so "uncorrected" You can just see to not have 'em around whatsoever until they create their first major catastrophe in their lives and start learning from scratch after it - while only some are capable to even grasp that, most simply keep on blaming and deservin' as they ever did.

This is a new one to me. What insults are they throwing at you? And why?

@@davidvanwinkle5033 Why? That's what I'd like to know. Who goes up to a complete stranger who's not bothering them and starts insulting them? If they picked the wrong guy to do that to, they might get their asses beat into the pavement--so they're taking quite a risk. I usually get called either stupid or ugly. Okay, the ugly part is objectively true, and they sometimes elaborate on various features of my appearance and tell me how disgusting they find me. Still, doing that without provocation really makes no sense to me. And being called stupid without even speaking to me--what, are they clairvoyant?

@@bigscarysteve I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you live in an area with a lot of feminist and "leftist" activity.

@@davidvanwinkle5033 I do live in a college town. The college here isn't as insanely left as the ones that get in the news all the time, but it's way too left for my taste.

@@bigscarysteve that explains everything then.

which is what women love to bank on. ambiguity. dangling the carrot just enough so you chase.

Tell her she can be friends but must tell him in the most upfront and honest way as possible. Should not give the possibility to these men that they might have chance with her 1 day. Also, to be friend she need to provide some value onto the table. Most of the time, a man bring more value between a male and a female friendship.

Biological drive men cannot switch off. A lot of women have completely different hobbies, interests and goals which make them uninteresting in friendship so once dates are off the table pointless staying.

My point to her would be:Find some friends who are in a relationship,and problem solved,right? Right?? O wait,their girlfriends don't let them hang out with other girls.Haha 😂

@@padrinozerocool That is hard though, maybe he isn't interested in her that way, so saying up front that you don't want to date him will come over as very hostile, and rather conceited! You don't know whether someone will want to date you until they ask. It is a very hard situation to negotiate and I don't think there are easy answers for either sex, particularly for an attractive 21 year old woman surrounded by hoards of horny 21 year old men! (she is at Uni). I told her it will be easier when she is 45 and living alone with her pets (like her mother). She didn't find that funny!

Being 21 and not being interested in dating men means only one thing: lesbian.

That's on point

There is nothing better then rejection, you learn so fast what not to do

Very wise

Perhaps it isn't the approach 🤔

@@davidvanwinkle5033 surprising right. Who would have guessed women are just as superficial if not more, especially regarding looks, race and skin tone lol

@@user-nq5hy7vn9k lol indeed. Dating isn't worth it. But I understand why many still try.

Did not see this coming 😳

Lol b4 tinder and social media. No. Things were not much easier for w omen.

@@hanalala3164 And who said they were???

@@BarbaraA.MertzRN-CCRN Are you advocating for a Christian theocracy?

@@technoloverish Sadly, in my opinion, few Christians actually READ the scriptures or understand what they are really saying. For example, most Christians that I know are divorced yet the perspective of 'Christ' was that though Mosaic law permitted a 'Gett' in specific circumstances, he (Jesus) was against divorce. This is but one example - so - NO, I would advocate an even stricter adherence to G-d's laws as biblically mandated. More modest dress and conduct for females and men would need to adhere to the laws as well. Society as a whole needs to back up several centuries and pay attention to the lessons we have already learned. Seriously, until women actually NEED men for their very survival, I don't see things changing. Women (for one) do not love in the same way that men do. Men love more completely with devotion. Women do not. Women are very opportunistic and willingly jump from guy to guy to increase their situational merit (gynocentrism). Sadly, it is just a part of their genetic structure and nature. But that does not make it right. that kind of action is vile and animalistic. It needs to be taught in schools that this nature is vile and ugly and restrictions placed upon it by ways of civil laws giving females punishments for not sticking with and supporting their husbands. But, I am 'Old School'...

I can only imagine this working if there is mutual non attraction.

That was still rare then too.

If you ever get friendzoned again, you better use the orbit for a slingshot maneuver. Use her connection to know more girls.

Generally, girls who are using a guy as an orbiter will not introduce you to girls. They tend to be careful and only have you around friends who are in relationships or are lesbians. Girls know that if she is using you and an available girl is around who may take you seriously, she will lose you almost entirely. Guys totally underestimate how competitive women are when it comes to the male resource.

W omen friendzone you even at a young age lol

you know!

This makes sense 👏

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@@ApexAL Sadly, it's easy come, easy go. In the old days a kiss guaranteed a date. Now I have girls who make out with me every time I see them, but who never text back. That means they live with another guy, etc. Last night a beautiful blonde girl with a flower in her hair got up from the bar, walked over and put her arm around my arm and just stood by my side for about 10 minutes. She was drunk but still. Then a waitress I know walked over and pried her off my arm and took her away, never having the courtesy to even say hello to me. The cock blocking that goes on when you reach this zone is beyond belief. It's like the universe balances out and keeps us single anyhow.

In result, you will be less depressed on rejection, be more confident and increase your chance of success.

Looks are a lot less than 50% of it. If you end up in a LTR with her, you'll be with her when her looks fade. What then? If her looks are even 50% of it, the relationship can't last--and that will be your fault. Don't get into a LTR with a woman if her physical appearance is any significant percentage at all of why you want to be with her.

@@bigscarysteve I agree, although for each person that looks/personality ratio can differ. Cheers

very well stated

That seems like a Lifetime ago!

Uhh what?? Friends most definitely do not occasionally sleep with you.

Enjoy your boxed wine and cat piss ladies!

Then how do you explain the awards he got?

Nah it's called knowing how to read body language. Not every approach has to be high risk.

Zone of Proximal Development means gradually pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone with intention and patience

These guys sound like real friends not friendzone friends.

Thats a sure way to failure. Girls, apparently, like directness.