Yes You Can Be a Gay Christian with Greg Coles | Episode 230, Heart of Dating Podcast

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Today, we chat with Greg Coles about his life as a single, gay Christian, why words matter, and how we can all show more love in the church!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction
03:34 Camp Hod in Asheville, September 27-29!
06:46 "Church and LGBTQ stuff, you know?"
10:53 Debate about calling oneself a gay Christian.
16:00 Prefers "same-sex attracted" over "gay Christian."
17:37 Unity among Jesus's followers, even with differences.
20:09 Being gay doesn't stop you from following Jesus.
27:46 "Same sex attracted" term for inclusivity in Christianity.
32:02 Encourage love, holiness, and your personal journey.
35:36 Some go with 'same sex attracted' over LGBTQ.
37:28 Fully embracing who you are in Christianity.
40:10 Struggling with faith and sexuality, feeling isolated.
46:14 Essential: Love each other, it's what matters.
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@vikwato Месяц назад

At the end of the day, I agree that someone who is "gay" should not be discriminated against or left out (Romans 3:23) but I do not agree with adding an identifier because it feels more like someone is settling in their sin which the bible speaks against (Romans 6:1-2). Another thing is sin is not so much a legalistic thing as what we physically do, but also about our heart posture. So just because someone stays celibate, it is important that they also keep their hearts and minds clean like the example Jesus gives on lust (Matthew 5:28). I understand the need to not want to hurt people and turn them away from the church but the truth is that hurt is something all Christians face on all the sins we struggle with. The hurt we feel is conviction to turn away from sin (John 16:8). Love is not accepting and allowing someone to live in sin. Love sometimes means offending another person by telling them the truth. On the topic of sexual immorality in the church it is well talked about in 1 Corinthians 5:1-13. For those struggling with the sin of same-sex or gay attraction, the bible encourages us that not temptation can't overcome us and we are all struggling with sin but we know that Christ has come to free us.

@nicolecarlson866 Месяц назад

I agree with this comment 100%. I had a hard time with this episode as it comes across as let’s leave this person in their sin. Let’s keep them comfy basically.

@jjtomlin Месяц назад

thank you for the awesome thoughts and perspectives!!

@anal.mendoza Месяц назад

@@jjtomlinHello and blessings from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic! I really think I disagree about a gay man being a Christian because it's not according God's will!

@davidhodge144 Месяц назад

We’re all sinners. Some struggle with anger, others w/ sex outside of marriage, and others w/ same sex attraction. Having the desire to sin is true for ALL Christians. But accepting the sin and living in it without any remorse and repentance is a sign that something is wrong.

@Ark-angel1 22 дня назад

This is beyond accepting, it’s the only sin that is widely celebrated and e encouraged on such a public level. And the only one whose ultimate goal is to involve and Indoctrinate people into at younger and younger ages. It makes people believe that their identity lies primarily in their sexual preference(s) or gender feeling, all used as a weapon to separate them from God.

@TheIbra9 Месяц назад

Only question I have is, what does the Scriptures say? If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation…why then should identify with the old identity? Is the blood of Jesus not strong to cleanse us from all sin? Did He lose His power?

@refugehouseofprayer3726 3 дня назад

I completely agree with you! I think this ministry is encouraging those who say they are gay to remain in the state they are in.

@PhoenixDwn75 Месяц назад

Howdy JJ & Kait! Longtime fan here - I've listened to the entire episode, and understand where ya'll are coming from... and I think the title of the episode is very "click-baitey" and unwise. Even if it is a bit of a stretch, I can kind of understand using the term "gay" in an evangelical sense to reach that community; but I totally disagree with using that adjective in general to describe Christians struggling with same-sex attraction. As ya'll mentioned in the podcast, the word "gay" is such a loaded term - and (due to the cultural build up of it) the majority of people on earth view it as synonymous with unashamed (and thus unrepentant) homosexual activity; I don't think there is a way to divorce the word from that meaning. As such, I don't believe it is wise to use that word to describe members of the church as it can be viewed as enabling or encouraging that type of sin. As Christians we are called to be DIFFERENT from the culture around us (being transformed by the renewal of our minds,) NOT to submit to a broken-world's culture. I honestly think that should also extend to the celibate same-sex attracted Christians. Again, if "gay" is used in an evangelical sense to break-into that culture with the aim of spreading the gospel... MAYBE I could understand it; but aside from that I completely disagree with that word as a general descriptor (and especially how ya'll have portrayed it in today's episode title.)

@CAIOFELIPEMAIA 3 дня назад

Well done guys!

@prodigaldaughter5978 Месяц назад

I would not call myself a "gay Christian" because it sounds like id be condoning sin. We are called to throw off our sin nature and put on our new self Colassians 4:10

@DoughtyWolf Месяц назад

Wait a second, so not naming it sin but naming it something else brings you closer to Jesus, since when does labeling a sin and sinful life style or a sinful sickness differently that what it is will get you closer to Jesus? We all need to come to Jesus, be born again and repent. Choosing to be gay is not an addiction like pornography or drugs or smoking .... Yes you can be gay and come to church or read the bible but that does not make you a christian just churchy, what's next we gonna have demonic christians, pedofile christians, poligamic christians, fornicating christians, adulterous christians... none of these are in the Bible, and neither is gay christians so lets not add to the Bible unless we want God to add to us His wrath... Yes in the end gay people wether active or not(Jesus said if you think lustfully it's the same as doing it so gay thoughts equals gay sex, the only difference is the sin in the body is more severe but you still sinned just from a distance) need Jesus, need repenting, need counceling, need healing and love and they need to be born again and give those sinful thoughts to God and figure out why they have them since God did not make them this way and also find out what is triggering them since again God did not make us to be triggered by same sex... either trauma or lack or love or rejection or some mental illness that needs fixing, yes with love. May God help us all in our weaknesses, falling short, struggles, and all the areas which we have yet to surrender to God and be healed from!🙏🤗 PS: labels don't bring you close to Jesus, loving God, loving people, living what you read from the Bible and being obedient does.

@nicolecarlson866 Месяц назад

Exactly my thoughts. What will be next!? Pedophilia christians? Drunk christians? Adulterous christians? Murderous christians!?? There is alot of deception in this episode and we need to call out the spirits behind the sin and not be friends with the demonic. We do it ALL in love. Lets be sanctified and be HOLY and pure and blameless before our perfect Father ❤️

@houseofphoenix2.0 Месяц назад

i love how you think being gay is a choice someone make

@houseofphoenix2.0 Месяц назад

@@nicolecarlson866 please don't judge people whom you don't know their experiences

@CesarI. 12 дней назад

Recent viewer to your YT channel and from the videos I've seen I am mostly in agreement with the majority of your content, I want to thank you for being a refreshing voice in how to date within a sound biblical framework. This however is the first video that gives me serious concern on your platform. I think others on this thread have commented more eloquently to the same concerns I share. I admire your work within HOD, but this message needs as one commenter stated, other voices that open up your presentation of this topic. I recommend to anyone reading this to listen and read Dr. Christopher Yuan and encourage HOD to reach out to him for an interview. Please hear me that I speak this not from a place of judgement, but from a heart of concern as to what we are rightly discerning and communication to other believers and the world at large.

@nicolegarcia3242 Месяц назад

Why you only bring him to the podcast, there are plenty of other men who struggle with same attraction they don't identify themselves as “Gay Christians”. Could you please have another perspective on this issue?

@theodorechau3006 Месяц назад

I once had the pleasure of coming to a youth conference and seeing Becket Cook (a formerly homosexual Hollywood worker turned Christian) speak there. One thing he said that stuck with me after all this time was that he was still attracted to men, and (I believe) he mentioned that it was a burden he would bear for the rest of his life.

@natalieb4825 Месяц назад

This is blasphemy

@Ark-angel1 22 дня назад

Saying “I’m a Christian who struggles with (fill in the blank)” is vastly different than saying “I’m a (fill in the blank) Christian”. You guys are really twisting language to make this work. I’m halfway in and haven’t heard a single reference to the Bible, which should be our our guide in these matters. Watched through and on such a hot topic, you quoted the Webster dictionary and referenced feelings, but failed to reference the ultimate authority, the Bible. Jj said something like another Christian’s holiness and walk with Jesus is their business. That isn’t what I read in Matthew. I read that we are to take care of our own issues, but we are also to hold one another accountable. Agreed that being “gay” or “same-sex attracted” isn’t a sin in and of itself, until there is list or action, but why would we identify ourselves as our sin, like a badge of honor?!! Remember: “Matthew 7:3-5 New International Version 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”

@iluvKingJesus Месяц назад

Yikes

@herambaanjaneya2041 Месяц назад

To me it's completely mystifying why anybody with the least self-respect would want to be part of a church like that. The fact that some (not all) Christians struggle with not judging despite obvious advice from their bible "do not judge lest you be judged" etc, etc, blah, blah, blah is absolutely extraordinary to me as practicing Hindu in a legacy christian country! Furthermore and even more to the point is the fact that a great many Christian denominations following the LIBERAL CHRISTIAN TRADITION ALREADY PERFORM SAME SEX MARRIAGE AND SO IT'S OK PROBABLY A HELL OF A LOT EASIER FOR THOSE GAY CHRISTIANS, etc to join those Christian communities from the get go and bypass the rest and just NOT get involved in THEIR DRAMAS and THEIR STRUGGLES! Go where you're best treated! By contrast in the Vedic/Sanatana Dharma/Hindu tradition their is absolutely no prohibition against Gay relationships and USA Mandirs (Hindu Temples) perform same sex marriage ceremonies and very much encourage full acceptance of sexual minorities. Not all Mandirs in all parts of the world take the same view and so sexual minorities may well be faced with having to look elsewhere if their needs are not accommodated more locally. It will be interesting to see how Mandirs in THAILAND respond to the new Same Sex Marriage laws coming into effect there this October 2024!

@anal.mendoza Месяц назад

Hi JJ and Kait, may the Lord bless you both from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic! Thanks for sharing this episode. I really love and respect this kind of community but I disagree with their lifestyle.

@AetheriusComics Месяц назад

It seems that when the church focuses on hetero people and hetero values, hetero men and women flourish while non hetero people get de-valued and punished. When the church focuses on non hetero people and non hetero values, non hetero people flourish while hetero men leave the church, and hetero women replace men with religion and career. Something has to change. Something has to allow for both hetero and non hetero people to flourish. If not, other religions will take over, and that will be the fall of the u.s.

@Ark-angel1 22 дня назад

But it doesn’t have to change. The Bible is the ultimate authority, not the shifting whim of culture and societal “norms”.

@refugehouseofprayer3726 3 дня назад

Personally I think you are over analyzing, the word gay and same sex attraction. My question for this ministry, do you support the LBGTQ community and do you support “gay” christians dating the same sex?

@_xBrokenxDreamsx_ 13 дней назад

sure, why not? in god's eyes we're all gay losers unless we acknowledge how totally awesome he is and thank him for burning in hell for 3 days for us.