You have built my dream rifle, if it shoots as good as it looks your going to be a very happy man, I’m new to all this stuff and super keen to give it a go so will be following your channel closely to learn as much as I possibly can so thanks in advance mate, all the best in your comps, cheers Yogi 🤙✌️ps is there many F-Class comps in Victoria that you know of ✌️
@@chief777able Depends on the range in Australia. At Malabar NSW the range limit is 4500 joules. I know that translates to a speed of well below of what you need to be competitive, which is why this setup will only be used at a couple of specific ranges throughout the year.
Very nice set up! Yes, I would say your hot rodding the GT.😀 I'm running 6x47L around 2900fps out of a 29" barrel using 109s, but it is a lower node. Good luck with that beauty.
Man you guys are fucked. I dont mean that with any disrespect. Thank you and Canadian for showing us Americans as soon as they make unfair laws to stand on your ground and shoot your way out if needed
Hi mate im about to have my second 300wsm with a long throat built with a cheetah barrel and an overall length of 3.2 + with the 210gr berger used for hunting and long targets. I also use the 2213sc powder and 2209 its a very underrated cartridge and i was able to get the same velocity as you at 2930fps
Kris I got heaps of rl23 and some rl17. I use rl23 for fire forming and informal days where I don't want to use up 2209 or 2213sc.. your comments make me wonder if the primers are the issue. I have only ever used federal or remington.. rl23 has always been crap and I have unopened boxes of the stuff... did you say sellior belliot??? Also so you know rl17 works mint in my saum.. 0.1moa all day long.. but once that's gone pretty sure that's it..
If I could get my hands on RL23 that is what I would use above all other powders in the 300wsm, it's temp stable and produces more velocity and less pressure than 2213sc. RL17 lacks the temp stability and it's not a powder I've ever wanted to try because of that.
Rl17 got a reputation for that but it's actually not right. All powder is sensitive to temp and should be tuned regularly. 17 leaves 23 for dead in terms of accuracy in 7mm saum.. but cannot comment on 300wsm
I'm a newbie in fclass(sporter standard). Currently building budget 300wsm for f open. Did you throat for longer bullet seating or just follow the saami specs? I'm planning to use eldx 220gn(leftover from my 300wm before) Thanks for this video mate. You have a beautiful rifle
My gunsmith has a zero freebore reamer, so I specified the freebore in this case. I went with .220. This allows me to jump the 220gr hybrid out to 30 thou without issue. The ELDX has a longer bearing surface I believe. I'd probably lean towards a .240 or .250 freebore for that bullet.
@@kriswilson5400thanks mate. my gunsmith ask me to send a dummy cartridge and seat the bullet according to my preference. Which one you you recommend,the longer or shorter depth mate?
@@chief777able I would always err on the side of a shorter freebore - if it's too short, your gunsmith can always throat it out further, but if you go too long...well there's no getting it back!
@@chief777able I don't know enough about that bullet sorry. I know a .220 freebore will work with the Berger 220gr and 215gr. I've never shot the Hornady though
@@chief777able I have a new video about to be published, please check in and watch that one - I haven't settled on final powder charge yet as it's a brand new barrel which will have its first shots put through it this weekend.
Great vid mate! Just received a 30” heavy barrel in 7mm prc. Discovered the Bergers hit lands with just less the half the neck around the 180 Berger’s. obviously Saami was created for the hornady bullets, not as sleek. Now ordered a custom reamer to bring the lands closer so jam has the Bergers being supported by most of the neck. The barrel will be About 2 to 3 mm shorter.
Thank you for sharing, i had a chance to shoot with the F class boys at Stawell and i was totally blown away witht he weapon system, i was invited to a shooting practice not knowing they were in fact the F class champions of victoria at the time, Anna asked if i wanted to go out for a practice i said yep, last time i shot a weapon was when i was in the cadets over 40+ years ago, plus do not have a shooters licence at all, & shooting the AU SLR 308 at 400 meters and scored a 98/100. Anyway first time i scored a 38/50 at 1,200 yards and then the 2nd time round i scored a 48/50 and that was with a 5.56 with wayne's rifle. I would love to get into the sport but its very expensive for the right equipment, plus as a amputee its very hard to have all the equipment as well, travel costs and if you really want to compete then like i said its is expensive, ok if you want to shoot with the boys but just doing that alone is expensive is you want to hit the ( 6" ) target at 1,200 yards with accuracy that is.👍👌🦘✌
Cool, I can wait until all this bleeding edge work trickles down to more casual shooters. I'd rather not follow every twist and turn burning $. It's interesting tho, real view of what's coming.
What dobyou think the advantage of 7prc wheeler is over my 7saum ackley improved.I own both. I will still with my 7 Saum .I took a 338 RUM and necked it down to a 7MM. Its prfetty wicked round. The reason they built the 7prc Wheeler is becauise they had a hard time getting brass for it.Ive not had that issue but then again I shoot bigger calibers mostly. like 33XC , 338 Edge Ackley Imp and 300 RUM Ackley Imp., 375 Cheytac and 416 Stroker. Great video
Barrel life should be improved, however the SAUM retains a velocity advantage. You can run the SAUM at a comfortable 2920-2940fps with 180gr class bullets whereas to do that with the PRCW, that sort of speed would be powder dependent, and in Australia we don't have those sort of powders (N555, RL16) available. I believe it's a comfortable 2850fps case. As far as outright accuracy is concerned, both calibres have won major competitions, with the PRCW proving to be successful in the US, whereas the SAUM is hugely popular with top F-Open shooters in Australia, winning many state and national titles.
Good to know and for my first prs 22 match I did check everything except that hahaha.... Will include it from now on... Interesting though generally the concensus I hear is triggertechs are pretty bullet proof ...I currently run them in my bolt guns but have thought about trying the bix and Andy.
Kris, what was your rationale for purchasing the Cortina Micro HS 6.5-7PRCII sizing die if the Micron Precision Series sizing die was working with no clicker issues? Great that your getting a new die from Eric after the stuck case issue...just wondering which one you prefer overall as they are very similar in price? Thanks
The Micron Precision was good, but not quite sizing down enough, I reckon it's probably 1 thou away from being ideal. If you intend to run high power loads, I don't believe that sizing die will prevent clickers. I managed to get Erik's original small base PRCW die to work - it just needs a decent amount of lube on the inside each time you use prior to sizing a case (at the start of the sizing process, once you've lubed the inside before the first case goes in, it's good thereafter) - I had 6 cases all suffering from clickers after load development, and that die got rid of the clickers in all 6 pieces - it sizes down below .530 so you need to use a decent amount of lube but it's the best die out there IMO.
@@kriswilson5400 Can't argue with those results! Recently ordered the .535 base Micro HS sizing die as well. Good luck going forward and I look forward to your future segments on 7-6.5PRC performance. Tremendously appreciated Kris - Thanks!!
Thanks for a very informative video...greatly appreciated! Where are you getting your finishing reamer, dies made and barrel chambered. I don't see any supporting reloading gauges on sale for the caliber? Thanks
Thanks, appreciate the kind words. My finishing reamer is from JGS. Resizing die is from Erik Cortina. Bullet Seating die is a Forster 7-08 micrometer which my gunsmith ran the reamer through and works awesome, and the barrel was chambered by Matt Paroz at LRP Solutions - Sydney, Australia.
Essentially, there is the 7-08, 120-150gr bullets at an acceptable speed, the 280Rem that can handle the 150-175gr bullets better than the 7-08 and the 7PRC that is designed for using the 160-190 gr bullets, all done with beltless cases. It isn't really anything that hasn't been achieved before speedwise, IE 7RM, 7STW, 7Wby, 7Mashburn, etc, some were faster. People didn't think in terms of case efficiency the same way in the before the 6PPC was built, it spawned the trend of case efficiency with the short, fat, beltless case, but, it took some time for people to look at the bigger cases and calibres, and what could be done with them. It's just a better way to utilize case designs, and gives a shooter a bit more oomph within the same gun parameters, with a heavier bullet.. And perhaps even then, the PRC"s have that SAAMI base dia "flaw" on the chamber reamers, but, is still an improvemnet in efficiency, and is easily fixed.
if button rifled barrels were "just as good", we wouldnt be paying thru the nose for cut groove...that may be true there, but not here in the US. If it were, we'd be using them instead of waiting 8 months to get a few tubes made from the big 3. SICK rifle build though...looks fantastic, your guy does awesome work.
Getting my build list for my first single shot fclass style gun..... Would this be a decent starter cartridge to learn reloading on?.. Subbed and cheers from Alaska.
Good to know, I have had the same issue with my 7 mm PRC die, Redding deluxe. Had to fully anele my cases otherwise they get stuck in the die. I will be taking some measurements now to see if my die has the same issue.
The only content on 7prcw . Great info . I would suggest you get Eriks expander mandrel die as well. What i noticed with the expader mandrel die if i run after decaping and before sizng (mandrel removed) the sizing goes very smooth because the bottom is allready sized I noticed with my 7-08 last brass prep then i run the mandrel again with mandrel in. I am still fire forming for the 7prcw so havnt sized any yet. Norma brass. Factory loaded 6.5 prc. pulled bullets and re used powder i could not find any lapua brass. So far holding about 4'' group at 600 witch is good enough for fire forming and steel matches that i attend. Alex did my chamber so its a .535 so i had to send my die back to Erik and they will send the version 2 for .535 chamber. Also a 7 saum seater die will work because its the same shoulder angle. Im using a redding comp seater in 7 saum an affordalbe option. suscribed
what is the COAL for the 7-6.5prcw I am planning out a build on a short action and curious if it would fit with. the action will accept up to 2.990. Thanks!
It's going to come down to bullet choice. With a 100 thou jump, with Berger 184s I am at 3.046. So with 180gr class bullets, you will struggle. I think you should be ok running 168gr bullets.
Hi Adam, we have a combination between Samsung tablets and Kobo E-readers. Battery life on both is enough to get you through a day's shooting, however the Kobo battery is awesome, very power efficient. Sunlight legibility goes to the Kobo as well as heat management. The Samsung's in direct heat in summer can shut down. We have just put together some plastic containers to help keep direct sunlight off them. Major downside of the Kobo is that the wi-fi card in them is weak, so there can be delays in shots registering. The Samsung's are very quick to process and have better wi-fi.
Thanks for posting the videos Kris, had a look earlier and the 100 thou is definitely grouping better with less vertical.👍 Wish Wingham had concrete slabs to shoot off... only at the 1'000yd, rest off the mound and sometimes spongy grass {even hammering in the spikes} though that is going away as things dry out.. Wishing I had that new Garmin crono but it is on my shopping list...😎
