2019 4-Stroke Turbo Comparison: Yamaha VS Ski-Doo 

It's a slow build but we're gaining daily.

When it comes to 4 strokes, yep all the time :)

marfy01 devil in the blue dress baby!!! They brought the best sled back, and they did it right!

I personally would have liked to see the srx stick to it's two stroke in the new viper chassis's with more displacement 700 up to 800 1000 cc

@@turdsan8677 Actually, it essentially is. The only thing that is not Arctic Cat is the motor. The chassis (which is a critical component of any vehicle) is designed and made by Arctic Cat. The quality between Cat's chassis and Ski-Doo's Chassis isn't even debatable.

Thanks Rando... much appreciated.

in sweden they're sold doing 270 hp from yamaha dealers

It’s not them. Yamaha rates them at 180hp. They have said many times that the figure is actually closer to 200hp

@@Zeffy55 sure. But a fresh sled off the factory floor puts out almost 210 on the dyno.. they know that too. Rarely do you hear them say anything but 180hp.

The 180hp figure is the absolute lowest that a person will ever experience (comes from warm temperatures at ultra high elevations). 212 hp is more accurate at normal winter temperatures and lower elevations in Wisconsin, Minnesota etc…

I think the SRX would closest compare to the renegade x because of the shorter lugs and lower ride height. Ski doo's xrs is their top trail sled.

Lol you'll get a shock

Todd Grant I’ve done that before. No mouse just yuck. Have a good one brother.

Todd Grant that’s true if you’re going to go. Go all the way

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@@gibsonf06 gauge*

Really? You actually just said that??? Can you say cop out??? BRP has no engine that can handle the boost of the Cat's 998 or the Cats Suzuki 4's. If they did they would have brought them to market many years ago.... like Cat did. Nuff said.

@Blake Terry Not going to happen. Ski Doo admitted awhile ago that they don’t believe in producing a 200+ HP engine.

Make sure to service or upgrade your chaincase. Known flaw and you dont want to get stranded.

🤣 great sled in the day, i had a 2001 brand new but its like a bravo compared to a winder, i was skeptical but 1 ride will blow ur mind

Sissy, get an apex stuck the side winder will seem much lighter

I agree that all blue srx is a sharp looking sled...Ski Doos look is just not that appealing ! I want a sled to look fast and mean not like a sunday cruiser

Ryan Mitchell n

I prefer the XRS Doo look myself, with the hood vents and wide body and colors/graphics, but the SRX is super hot too. Somehow if you add a decent windscreen to the Doo it suddenly looks half as hot when combined with a simple all black scheme. But the XRS hubba hubba woooooooooo droooooooooooool.

The srx is a trail sled, thats waste of sleds

Because snowtrax has to try to talk up ski-doo. Their bias is embarrassing.

Mike the Executioner funny if you rode both then you would know the Yamaha rides just as nice. Any sled you buy new you have to adjust for you and your style of riding and with the Arctic cat chassis the Yamaha is just as good. Coming from a guy that owns both Yamaha and ski doo.

Because its heavy and the suspension is so bad it might as well not be there

@@toddcatlin4749 Huh? Watch the video again, watch it a second time. I think they did a great job of being objective. Come on, be realistic; differrences between the two are so miniscule it doesn't really matter. In the real world, both sleds will surpass anyone's wildest expectations. It's like trying to figure out which is wetter........distilled water or tap water.

@John P the prices on sleds and motocross bikes are way more than they should be. Also when you look at parts or to replace a motor it’s right up there with a car motor which has way more parts for about the same price. Ridiculous.

jjfromthebigland next year. Lol

jjfromthebigland then Yamaha puts it on the apex and that finish it.

@@Ugluk75 the apex is old and obsolete. It has been obsolete since 2009

Branden joseph and still it owns the 1200

@@Ugluk75 hahah not a chance buck

They won't go electric....batteries are too heavy for these types of vehicles and also have very poor performance characteristics in cold temperatures.

taigamotors.ca/snowmobiles/ They exist but it’s unlikely that they’re all around better.

@Mike Miller I disagree. Yamaha is a motor company and the first to go four stroke. Since then, they have built a large handful of legendary motors. I'm sorry but skidoo cannot compete with the reliability, quality, and power of a yamaha four stroke, simple.

@Mike Miller Yamaha offers 20 year 160,000km(100,000 mile) warranty on new 4 strokes. Ski-doo wouldn't dare back their own product like that and you call them bullet proof.....

@@nate199813 cat was the first to go 4 stroke. As far as reliability, ski Doo hasn't had a reliability issue with any of their 4 stroke motors. None of the manufacturers have actually. Quality is a different story. Yamahas quality was not good. They couldn't engineer their way around a chassis if their business depended on it. That's why they let Arctic cat do that now. Yamaha has not built a great all around snowmobile until cat came into the picture. Have you ever seen the suspension on an Apex, nytro, or phazer? They were the heaviest piles of junk out there. I'm a fan of Yamaha, but I think your looking through blue colored glasses if you think nothing was close. Reality is nobody could compete with ski doo's 2009 1200 until 2012. And the other 4 strokes didn't step beyond the 1200 until 2017... That was a decade of dominance and is the reason ski Doo outsells the other 2 manufacturers in 4 strokes even if you combined them.

Stonebridge the intake is too long how is a tune gonna help?

What? fuel and spark timing.. efi tuning.

Totally wrong. The sidewinder is a totally new engine. 998cc triple turbo.

Cuz its totally different from the yxz 998 triple.. which uses the same block and head casting with different internals, which came from the sidewinder.. so totally different. Even more totally different, the X3 900 ace turbo and the Renegade, like totally. Okay.

i here that i have a 99 vmax 700 and never have done anything with the motor

I agree. It's sad that yammi went away with a 2stroke

Dan Halpin yup you will probably get sick of riding it before you it

18,000 miles on a 2 stroke? You are full of shat

Wade....... You are full of crap.

COD ProCamp ‘nough said

Phil Mccrevasse I hope that’s a joke.

problems & trouble 4 life ha ha !!!

4 stroke Turbo 2 winn 😂

Neither of these are off trail sleds. Skidoo doesnt even offer the turbo in an offtrail sled. That discussion would be invalid.

Haha not a chance.

@@UvidCo ha ha yes they are show me a ski doo with 26,000 to 50,000 miles!

@@bradymxr4659 I can show you a fleet of them (with 5 ski-doo over 75000 kms from 06). Since we have been using Ski-doo, Yamaha and A/C for the past 10 years at our sled tours here in BC. So again Yamaha ain't as reliable especially now with AC chassis. We don't have the fleet size we used to have before this Covid bs but yeah yam ain't like they were even from only a few years ago. We've had two brand Yamaha's break the shock at the bracket with it bolts to the ski with less than 1000kms on one and just over 500kms on another and a blown piston on the same one when it hit just over 750km not counting other issues over the years. Three years or so ago we lost the motor in an Apex that we used for demo's at ground level. Of course they are still more reliable than cat but not by much since the chassis change, now our sleds get a pounding from customers but out of the three brands we have used Skidoo is more reliable. We gave up buying new Cat three years ago because of problems and will only buy them used with low kms just to cut cost.

@@UvidCo well from what you mentioned that broke shocks are not made by Yamaha. And seeing you brought up shocks I’ve seen them break or seal give out on every sled. Again maintaining a sled is a big plus. Everyone that talks about Yamaha being reliable just like the one guy is talking about motors. Even this channel the guy has mentioned numerous times on other videos Yamaha has the most reliable motor and he has seen them as well with over 50,000 miles. Also don’t tell me ski doo is so reliable cause I’ve seen many recalls for motor replacements, wiring harnesses cause of sleds burning to the ground and so on. My friend works at a ski doo dealership he tells me what’s good and what to stay away from in the years they have problems. I also have a ski doo and Yamaha so you know I’m not just one brand guy. I just know overall 4stroke wise Yamaha has reliability down better with their motors. I hope with Yamaha working with A/C things get better like their fit to finish has been which Yamaha has been known for on their bikes and other equipment as well.

You are not the only one, Yamaha keeps the rep in motorcycles and ATVs. Strange thought, add a motor modification that forces cold air at insane volumes into an engine and match it with a fuel injection system that can use all that air and it goes faster...? Huh. Ski Doo is not up to this comparison, tired of finding ways to lift Ski Do up among clearly superior sleds with things that are mostly unnoticeable or easily ignored by most riders

I was going to comment the same thing..thank you

Because it is the exact same sled as the sidewinder maybe?

The yamaha (Engine) is indestructible

My 2016 Freeride 800 etec has over 17,000km on it and the engine hasn't been touched, nothing has ever broken on it and the only thing i've had to do besides regular maintenance was replace the track at the beginning of this season.

Mike I don’t think your telling the truth. 17k do you just trail ride it? If that’s the case I could possibly see it maybe but if this is true you’ve got one great sled.

@@Sackmatters I am telling the truth and yes it does get trail ridden quite a bit because where I live I don't always have deep powder and the snow is wind drifted fairly hard 1/2 of the winter but it get's ridden hard look at my videos if you don't believe me. I'm actually kinda pissed that it didn't blow yet this is my last year of warranty and I'm hoping it's going to blow so I can start off with freshly rebuilt motor.

@FreeRide skidoo does make a great sled no doubt. I ride older Yamahas and they are dependable.

My yammie turbo has 7200 miles on it??? My yammie 700 triple triple has 8000 miles on it witch that's a bullet proof motor. Question who started a turbo late. Damn cat and Polaris did this back in 2010 with there turbos.Polaris ran to the race circuit.

He did, he said the yamaha. But you my have a different opinion

On the other hand you can upgrade your Yamaha with stage 5 and have 305hp...

Yeah no kidding they complain about my 1200 hitting late and now they complain about this machine. If you know when the power is going to come on he'll adapt that with the flipper at the right time and you learn to adjust your bought it. You got to stick with it right but you guys have no choice you get any of them you want. I couldn't ride my 15 do touring 1200 and found throttle lag but I dealt with it. It's the harmonic home from my exhaust or track that I can't stand under 45 miles per hour. I paid for a silent Drive and it's noisy as hell. All said I love the east 900 more because of the awesome sound that thing gives off when flying by everybody.

They also complained about how wide bodied the XR chassis was but look how big the cheeks are on this one. I don't see them complaining now.

Buncha bums. What do they know...

They'll complain about the Panels next season right Snowtrax?

@@jmj267 that's because the wide bodied G4 looks utterly fantastic and in fact better than the 2 stroke G4 but the XR 1200 wide body did indeed look kind of fat. I have two XR's and with a low screen and some kick ass front shocks it looks better than the XP's from the front and some angles off front. But from the side it doesn't look very good even to my biased eyes......nevermind compared to the sexy XS and not 2S and 4S G4's. SnowTrax is right on in saying what they did about the XR and about the 4S G4 I say.

And that was stock. Could have put some money in it. It would be quicker yet.

wouldn't even be close tho....

Same as a Ski-Doo 850 but way uglier (though I did see one photo where they looked awesome......maybe a racing version?) and a stouter rear suspension so not sure it would reveal too much we don't already know.

Lynx is BRP European market only as far as I'm aware.. No dealer networks in North America, all Ski-Doo.

they look much better in the front than ski doo

Then Yamaha should get it right and tell us its 200 hp if its 200 hp.

@@MrJohnboe Same motor in the cat makes over 200hp stock and is advertised as such. Id be surprised if Yamaha set theirs up as less

@@OlTurcotte Butthurt much? You must ride skidoo

@@55weedlover but you can't blame Snowtrax for simply repeating what Yamaha claims. Yamaha should just tell people it's 200 hp if it's 200 hp vs all this conservative-estimate crap. It's like under promising and over delivering but it's just silly I think......just tell us the truth. I heard the Sidewinder was 180 hp in warmer/normal air and 200 hp in cold air which I presume is -20. Not sure if Cat is the same in that respect but if so then they're just giving people the power in typical riding temperatures (in January anyway).

@@MrJohnboe read Yamahas release video, it's a guaranteed minimum of 180 hp at any elevation. In reality yeah it's a 200 hp sled but it's better to market the sled at lower hp and actually have it be higher than it would be to market it the other way around

Mark K and also getting the H P to the track.

Google motor and post the results. Idiot

@@zachkuby87 I think you're going a little far calling him an idiot since basically we were always taught that motor meant electric and engine was internal combustion.

Unless they are built by arctic cat

@@sppeders1 No yamaha engine is made by either Arctic Cat or Textron.

@@WilliamStewart1 Right. What is that Yamaha Engine in?

sppeders1 All the 4 stroke cats have Yamaha engines except for the Suzuki 1050 twin in the bearcat. The odd numbered ones are Yamahas like the zr7000 and thundercat 9000. The 6000 and 8000 series are two stroke arctic cat engines. Yamaha doesn’t use the cat two strokes though.

@@jeremiahlf They use the 1049 3 cylinder in all the non-turbo models and the 998 3 cylinder on all the turbo models. The 1049 has been around in some variety for over 15 years and is generally considered the most reliable 4 stroke made for a snowmobile. Anyone who tries to slam Yamaha for their build quality is just talking out of their culo