NHL 21 has arrived, and after a week of time with the game, DZ & Corwin have come up with their thoughts on the latest entry in EA Sports series. Here are 7 things they think you should know about this year's game!
I had a idea while watching this video maybe franchise can make a league like u enter the league with 30 other players and you randomly get assigned a team but it is spread out over 10 years you have to build the best franchise and win the most cups you can make trades through a game chat aspect and each season is about a 5 days long lasting about 2 months I think it would really bring life back to franchise mode and give people a reason to stay active in it and maybe at the end of the year like June July the top 31 people per console go in to a finale and they win a prize
@@Habebandebardown for nhl 2k isn’t a competition anymore. The only thing 2k really takes seriously now is nba which it completely overtakes ea in. Other than that, ea unfortunately is the only relevant company making sports games.
@@Joe-ic3oe forehand backhand cheese is 100% still there lmao, and the one hand is definitely nerfed but you can still score with it pretty frequently if you learn it
@@griffinjoy359 The most common type of goal in the NHL are wrist shots. The most common type of goal in NHL 21 are one timers. One timers happen way more often in the video games.
Be a pro definitely needs to take a mlb the show approach by letting you negotiate your contract and having more than 2 teams actually want to sign you
I would like an nba 2k mycareer approach. Honestly, if they were allowed to just copy and paste mycareer and make it hockey instead of basketball, I would love that (obviously Ik they can’t do that).
YES! It's ridiculous to be the best player in the league and just get 2 offers from the same teams that are always only 2 year deals. It's near impossible to get on a team you want, meanwhile other superstars (McDavid, Mackinnon, Matthews) seem to be constantly switching teams.
I live in Canada so I have to pay 80 bucks to buy it. The games are great but they did not change so I stopped getting them after 18. I am playing 21 and it is good but not great
They will next year. Which is what I’m waiting for. The last NHL game I got was 19, I wait about every 2-3 years to buy the new installment of NHL and FIFA.
True, that would be a really good addition, instead of every season being the exact same, there should be expansion drafts every once in a while, including the one we know for sure is coming soon.
The sad matter of fact is that the final joke about wanting to watch the review for NHL 22, just watch this back, is highly likely to be dead on. The sad truth is that EA have the monopoly on the NHL and have zero reasons to improve or be better or even different from year to year, because there's no competition. It's a lazy money spinner for them that will continue to do so as long as they aren't threatened by a competitor. But hey, we all know this.
They did the same thing for the last few years of NCAA Football. People want that game back and act like it was an amazing game but it was fucking awful towards the end. It was the same game every year with a couple of token gameplay updates, slight graphical changes and updated rosters.
@@KevinNerfs completely false statement they where doing things with a smaller team that madden didn’t they completely revamped recruiting in 14 improved gameplay and why would they bring down the amazing dynasty mode they made you haven’t ever played the game it’s become very very very very clear
This is why I buy every other year. This year as well with no season until potentially Jan, I will probably wait longer to hopefully get it at a discount.
Yeah I'm waiting til next year, at least. Being as the new consoles coming out in Nov. Might as well wait and get the same thing next year instead 🤷♂️
Yeah, I buy every second one. 19 was the last one I got and I was looking forward to getting an upgrade. But after watching this, I'm not sure I even want to bother.
I always buy the nhl games like 2 or 3 years apart. Doing this kept me around cause I actually see some kind of innovation from game to game, for example I just jumped from 17 to 21 and there’s quite a bit of a change.
"Gets a little repetitive". That's such an understatement. I've already completed the first season(with the avs and won the cup) and now that I'm onto the second season it's just the same things. Coach tells you to do this one thing that he has said the last 100 games. You only talk to one teammate. And btw once you get your brand and teammates up to about max all this dialogue means absolutely nothing at that point. Edit: At the start I was only talking and having chats with makar but now I'm talking and chatting with MacKinnon. But keep in mind this is my theird year in be a pro. And they didnt mention how it's so stupid how you need more followers for stuff like wtf I need more followers to make a 1.5 mil donation to an animal refuge? Wtf. And can you at least tell me how many followers I need to make the donation?
Out of all the NHL reviews out there, the only one worth listening to is Bardown's. Z's and Corwin's insight is the most comprehensive. And by far the most honest. Radical suggestions in the end but I would be all for it if EA considers it for the NHL series. Good job guys!
One thing I've always dreamed about since I was 12 is a hockey wwith FIFA game's possibilities and features. You can play as a player like in French Division 2, and then start a manager career.
Thats a good feature yeah. Too bad Fifa's player career is the worst shit ever. There is literally nothing to do. Its one of the few game modes that is actually better in NHL.
The GM connected mode would be a pretty awesome thing to revive as a free to play game. you could pay for jerseys, player packs, skins etc.. and make it its own free game while also fixing all of the problems in the regular NHL game .
So many glitches in this game. Scouting, chemistry, trades all broken in Franchise mode. The overalls in the creation zone is broken. Be A Pro gets very repetitive after awhile with the conversation system, and why they removed full seasons in the CHL for juniors is so stupid. And the free agency for BAP is still awful. Get two teams to choose from, and can't negotiate or even see the roster before choosing. But HUT is ready day one as per usual. EA looks like they are going to take one step forward, but they just take two steps back again as always. Also, ROSTER SHARING needs to be in this game because the rosters they have are so BAAAAAAAAD. Please 2K come back to the NHL video game franchise.
Well said bro... wish they would make the be a pro like 2k21 Mycareer u get the option of where u wanna go or u can randomize cos they give u the option, everyone going to NYR or LA is very stupid....NHL is behind all sports games makes me mad as a hockey lover.
Also why on BAP does every team get like 6 random players? That are on other teams on multi yr deals... its like fantasy draft... 2k21 does a very good job of making it realistic
I really couldn't have said it better myself. Ya'll hit the nail on the head perfectly. I'm actually surprised you guys gave it as high a rating at the end as you did.
Hockey fans like hockey games regardless of price. Download the demo and play the bullshit nhl 3s over and over again if you want free. But that nhl 3s crap aint hockey my friend. Outscoring the opponent 6-2 and still losing is dainty wristed bullderdash lol
@@brg9759 so you enjoy losing even when you outscore the opponent? I disagree but I respect your thinking on it. It's not my cup of tea tho. Winning is winning lol NHL hits didn't need phantom goals for the game to be fun. I just don't get that part of it. Other than that it actually is a fun little mini game
Be-A-Pro added some cosmetic stuff but actually _took out_ one thing I liked: being able to play a full CHL season (or four). Plus goalie controls are still overly-complicated trash, _and_ no new jerseys so far except Buffalo's... Might stick with NHL 20 to be honest. 5.5/10
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They didn't even get the new Ottawa logo and jerseys in the game yet... As shit as Madden 21 is, at least they got the Washington Football Team right...
Yes I want a longer video of you guys talking about nhl please. It’s one of the constants of me growing up and it’s going down a path that makes me kinda sad.
Guys, great video. Couldn’t agree more with most of what you said. Free to play would be a boon to HUT and would probably lead to better gameplay. Maybe franchise mode wouldn’t get the much needed love it needs, but what about the prospect of GM connected? If the game was free, that would blow up.
I like how you guys said about Be A Pro being like NBA Career Mode. With all the practicing training and customization it has would be great for Be A Pro. I would love to have my character skate around and practice with or without teammates at my choosing and before games they could have pre game skates where you can shoot at your own goalie on your half of the ice and then get to you game whenever you want to.
7/10 is extremely high rating for this haha. I've hated basketball for the longest time but and as scummy as 2kgames are with their ingame ads and gambling mechanics, they really nailed that career mode so well, not only giving you a deep pre draft story but kept giving you things to do and unlock throughout the whole season. EA could learn a lot from it
I always loved playing be a pro as a kid, seeing my last name on the back of an nhl jersey was always awesome. For the last couple years I’ve just hated be a pro and as I’ve started to branch into nba 2K I was done with NHL be a pros. However this year has been a step in the right direction and even though it’s not nearly as good as 2K, I have enjoyed playing it so far. Plus the milestones page looks great and the record book is a nice addition as well
I’ve been getting the newer ones since my friends have it all. I also have it for an updated overall. People also buy the newer games and I like online
I like these guys. Great review. I enjoy playing HUT and building up my team for online competition. But the fact this game is basically the same as last year I feel like I'm in need of breaking the cycle of buying the game annually every year. I don't want to pay full price with this ongoing problem, maybe I'll wait for the day this game goes on sale hopefully on black Friday.
Love the suggestion of taking 2k career mode and adding it to nhl. Love the free version idea, much like many other games direction. I haven't play nhl since ps3 like nhl 14 maybe lol. So it's all new now! They should take your idea and incorporate them hell, maybe just take their jobs.
I would play a footbal manager esc game but with hockey. I like that stuff like stats and training have a big impact on the players that you sign or draft. In the current way franchise mode is done it's not up to you how players develop their skills like puck handling or stick checking as an example but make it up to us. You already have coaches, make the coaches more impactful. It think Corvin's right. Franchise mode could easily be a game itself with a few changes. Make one game and update it. Do like other big games like world of warcraft does. Make big patches, when a new season is about to start.
I’ve owned every game since 93 I agree with all of this and these are the things the game needs in its overhaul 1. All star game with skill comp ( used in franchise and be a pro) 2. More in depth creation mode for eashl and players 3. Record books for be a pro and franchise with commentary about being close to a record 4. As stated a neighbourhood 2k style be a pro mode or eashl mode 5. A be a pro or franchise that has years with World Cup or Olympics where your players can be chosen and you can play the event (have it every 4 years during be a pro or franchise to keep those fresh. 6. Increased presentation for modes 7. Basically take a 2k nba game and merge it with nhl
I'd love to see the longer video. I feel like the normal play mode/EASHL on its own would be enough for a free version and be a pro/franchise would be behind the paywall, as those modes on their own won't be the thing that specifically lures in new players, it'll be the normal gameplay
Fantastic review.... I normally wait until these games go on deep discount, but I paid full price because they seem to at least be making the right changes this year, and I want to financially support them this one time. If they screw up NHL 22, I'm done. I know they are a smaller studio and you're absolutely right... it's no excuse when they charge 60 dollars, but nobody really buys these games at full price. I figured if I buy it at full price, maybe that's the impetus for them to fix Franchise Mode and make some improvements to the next gen version. If not, somebody else needs to make a hockey game. EA is really terrible across all platforms (FIFA, Madden, etc), but even 2K has abused the promise they once had.
It would be cool if you could choose from playlists of old soundtracks and make playlists of your favorite songs and put American phsyco next to sweetness and the boys are back
I played a pro for 6-7 in game years in NHL 19 even a season with the OHL. So getting into NHL 21 be a pro mode was nice, but damn I wish there was more off ice stuff.
They made some REALLY good points in this vid at the end. I haven’t bought an nhl game since ‘18 because year over year it’s the same game with a couple of different skins & UI updates. I agree that such minor changes and minimal effort should warrant a lower price point.
NHL 19 becoming free to xbox users with gold back in June 2019 is literally what got me into hockey and your guys videos. They would benefit so much by at least making nhl 20 available with game pass or something similar.
I’m looking forward to when EA creates some of the cutscenes from BAP and puts them in Franchise Mode, like you can see the draft and the players walking on to the stage
My question is why dose Ovi get treated like he’s Wayne Gretzky in this game. Yea he’s good but did he need a whole video of him at the start of this game. Like he’s good but it’s just odd to me.
A neighborhood concept like 2k would be so sick for chel like make the roads canals and have like pond hockey pickup like the park. Being able to practice dekes on the canals would also be sick. Like you just skate around with a puck.
I preordered NHL 21 on the 8th, and I still haven’t gotten my preorder code. I contacted EA two days ago. I’ll edit this comment if something happens. Update: EA told me to talk to Amazon and Amazon didn’t really know there was a pre-order bonus, or how to access the code. They are sending me a new copy just to check if the code will come in the package (even though new copies most likely won’t have anything else because it was just for pre-order copies) so they will discuss with EA if nothing’s there. Idk why EA just couldn’t send me a code. I included a photo that proved I preordered it, and now everything’s just getting delayed.
I was walking my dog this morning with one thought on my mind: "When are my Bardown homies going to review NHL 21?" I go to work, and BAM! Here it is! Thanks guys! 👍
Compared to madden this is a huge improvement by ea madden is literally a carbon copy with the yard at least they added 3 new mechanics and 2 new game modes while expanding be a pro
Hi, massive fan of you two. I have 5 suggestions I would like them to add, mind you I’ve played since NHL 06 and only missed a few title (maybe 4-6 of them) 1st - Eliminate Sound Tracks Partner with a radio station and get ads on the station to promote your game 2nd - “The Barn” This one is similar to what you two were saying, make a single rink you can walk around in to play Ones, GM mode (an office), Eashl, and a change room for your character. 3rd - Change the menus PLEASE Nothing more to say.. 4th - Cheaper game, however more micro transactions Oh you like the old teams in the league from the 30s, $3 per old team that comes with old Jerseys, players and rink styles And lastly 5 Connected franchise; I’m honestly probably not gonna buy the game this year. I love the new dekes and focus on old game modes that need updates but I mainly only play EASHL and franchise mode and I don’t see anything new about either of them at all. Keep up the hard work TSN boys, can’t wait to see you all back on the ice again having fun and making super cool vlogs... I have one suggestions for you guys, during this lockdown please rip more packs, I would watch 50 videos on you all doing a bunch of pack rips almost like HUT pack openings. Have a safe end of the year, Stay Awesome (‘-‘)
I had a idea while watching this video maybe franchise can make a league like u enter the league with 30 other players and you randomly get assigned a team but it is spread out over 10 years you have to build the best franchise and win the most cups you can make trades through a game chat aspect and each season is about a 5 days long lasting about 2 months I think it would really bring life back to franchise mode and give people a reason to stay active in it and maybe at the end of the year like June July the top 31 people per console go in to a finale and they win a prize
Wouldn’t it be awesome, if the future GM modes had like the international competitions like Fifa, well I’m not so sure about the standard WC, but like you could pick any international team you want and play U-20 WJC
Make "Be A Pro" mode like Madden 20's "QB1" mode. I never played Madden games before but a friend of mine suggested that and once I played it, I was blown away.
Honestly, as someone who has played almost the past decade of nhl games, they have plateaued in terms of on-ice and the actual hockey game. This isn’t a bad thing, in fact it means they should literally have the same mechanics going forward, don’t touch anything here, and improve the presentation aspects. Purely as a hockey simulation experience, it’s near perfect. The passing, shooting, dekes, and Defense free stick are all outstanding, and even the checking and celebrations are still good (incorporate more real life celebrations and bring back hip checks). The extraneous stuff is where the fault lies. I don’t mind James Cybulski as the main commentator, but he takes me entirely out of the experience. When have you ever heard him calling a game on nhl network or nbc or TSN or sports centre? Never, because he doesn’t. He already feels just as stale as doc emrick did, but I only felt that way about doc after several years of him doing it. They need a marquis man to spend their budget on, in the vein of jim hughson or Gord Miller or someone else who’s recognizable to actually get people in the mindset and simulated HNIC experience. And remove the foolish non essential stuff for the presentation as well. Do you see snoop dogg in the real nhl game presentations? No, so why have him in a game droning on about how he influenced rap and hockey to collaborate. Use the money spent on his feature to get actual analysts and reporters like Shawn McKenzie or Kyle Bukauskus for pre-game messages in the rink and interviews in between periods with players (like nba does) and have people like David amber and Cassie campbell do the 1st intermission coaches corner style breakdowns of the game to keep people invested in the experience (again, like NBA does with shaq kenny and ernie). So many wasted opportunities here! And I appreciate the improvements to be a pro, but again as Bardown said there needs to be massive facelifts to the franchise mode, from the trading and scouting to the draft and deadline itself, as well as showing major signings and tradings of star players and firings of coaches (like how MLB does, by showing the actual pictures or models of stars involved in the transactions taking place). And for the love of god get rid of hockey analyst. Please god. And a longer and more rink appropriate soundtrack. Please. NHL games are like a steakhouse. The steak (in game gameplay) is good, it’s supposed to be freaking good, it’s expected. But it’s the sides and appetizers (franchise mode, winter classic, be a pro, battle for the cup, etc) that truly set aside good from great. God I so badly want nhl games to be good
Great vid! It's so easy for EA to copy NBA2K. They should make cutscenes with NHL stars where you're beefing and you gotta fight the biggest guy on the team LOL.
I rarely watched basketball but I played it a lot and decided to get 2k19 and that my career mode got me hooked on 2k and even got me watching a lot more basketball which sucks because I’ve always loved hockey as a Canadian but for the first time in years I didn’t get nhl on launch day and probably won’t get it
The last one I've played is 19, and based on a couple reviews that I've watched, 21 really doesn't seem very different, especially considering my playing, which is only franchise and instant games. However, I got access to 21 without it costing anything for myself, so obviously I'll try it out and see what it's like.
Good Review. NHL 20 is my first NHL game since 2001. And I really enjoy the Be A Pro mode but wish there was more thought put into it. So after watching this review I think I'll just stick to NHL 20
They added the multiple positions thing but the best lines feature doesn't even take it into account they'll put a C and C/RW on a line and the C will be playing wing while the guy who's actually supposed to play there isnt
Be a pro is full of so many bugs. One of which I encounter constantly. I decided to be a goalie for BAP. One challenge I got was to get a shutout and win in the next game. When I did the get shutout and W, it went back to the menu and said I lost the game 5-0 and so I lost exp points
Guys thanks for your assessment. I started following hockey and fantasy hockey BECAUSE OF video game. I’ve been playin hockey since days of Super Nintendo. But u nailed.....whole console generation of NHL 15 - 20 was WOEFUL. AND I WAS ANGRY for it.
I generally buy every second year just because it is essentially the same game but with new player ratings. The idea of it being free is different, could possibly make a 6v6 mode where you get a position and play in either a party or with randoms. Where it would be a 10-minute game, can pick your desired position, and you are assigned an in-game rank to kind of keep the games balanced.
You summed up BAP pretty well. I wish there were more challenges and ways for you to be more involved with your brand, ie meeting fans, doing a skills competition etc. Also, I could really do with new sports commentators. James Cyulski’s voice makes me want perforate my ear drums. At least offer some DLC for alternative well known commentators. Ray Ferraro is ok but there are better play by play analysts out there too.
I agree with the be a pro stuff I want it to be more like 2K and I also want EA to make the same kinda stuff with franchise mode right now when I play it I don’t feel like a GM I want interviews with players I just got and make promises to the owner stuff like that
I don’t know if it’s just me but I can’t even skate 2 feet without the ai just pokechecking the puck from my stick every time I get it. And half of my passes just hit the skates
Imo I rlly like this game. It feels fresh and new. Granted I’ve only played since nhl 19 but the overhall of bap and the new looks of the game, I rlly like. I don’t play franchise mode that often but most of the other modes I like and they feel good.
I’ll probably pick nhl21 up like I do the others toward the end of the season when I can get it for $25ish. Not sure there is enough new features for me to be worth the current price tag. I do enjoy watching people stream it so I’ll stick with that for a while :)
I had a idea while watching this video maybe franchise can make a league like u enter the league with 30 other players and you randomly get assigned a team but it is spread out over 10 years you have to build the best franchise and win the most cups you can make trades through a game chat aspect and each season is about a 5 days long lasting about 2 months I think it would really bring life back to franchise mode and give people a reason to stay active in it and maybe at the end of the year like June July the top 31 people per console go in to a finale and they win a prize like so bardown sees
i would like the ability to carry forward the single player modes like be a pro and be a gm from year to year within the NHL franchise like from this year make it so that after completing the first season (2020-2021) to save the game as a transferable file to be able to pick up in NHL 22 when that game is created and then as well the same thing from NHL 22 to NHL 23 so that i'm not creating my pro from scratch every year in be a pro and the same in be a gm/franchise mode where all the trades you make from year to year stay with the game rather than having to go into player movement and move all the player youve traded for in the past to the team you use in order for them to be on your team in the years version of NHL... what do you think about this suggestion DZ and Corwin?
13:16 DZ you are 100% correct about 2k. I have NEVER cared about basketball, but 2k20 was free on psn a few months back so I got it. I played through an entire 82 game season, and now I'm more interested in basketball than ever. It was all because of how much fun I've had playing 2k!
I think most people buy this game year after year is for the rosters update. But to tell you the truth I'm getting tired of the same game year after year. I was thinking of getting this year's game but I will hold off and buy it used in a few months and save some money. Lol great video.
Okay, so I will keep playing 20 for the next couple years. I am curious about the be a pro mode as it's my favourite part. If I see a sale maybe I'll grab it
