AITA For Breaking Up With Pregnant GF OR Not Wanting My Polyamorous Parents at My Wedding 

A lot of babies are born with super dark hair and then it gets lighter or falls out and grows in lighter. So for him to automatically jump to “you cheated” is definitely hurtful and unfair.

There’s a reason why he’s 51 and single. He’s done this to another woman before.

Story 1: this is textbook emotional manipulation- this man should not be in a relationship. There’s definitely a chance he is doing all this just to break her in- that’s how you get someone in the mindset of “everything is my fault” always on your toes

I got pregnant about 10 years ago, and it was a shit show. My boyfriend at the time was always talking about that he wanted kids and to have a family and I didn’t want kids at the time. But I was in love with him and I thought that ok, we could make it work since he’d be an active father in the kids life etc. And well, we hadn’t said like “now we’ll try for a baby” but since he was saying all the time that he wanted a child with me and since he didn’t want to use pretection, I change my mindset to “whatever happens happens”. And then I got pregnant. And hell opened its gates. He got mad at me for getting pregnant and wanted me to have an abortion, while I wanted to keep it. It’s like the rolls got reversed completely. We had a fight because apparently he wanted to have a baby after he had turned 30. (He was 29 years old at the time so if he’d done the math he’d realize he’d already be 30 when the baby would be born) and he was not ready for a kid and I was ruining his life. I tried to discuss it with him but he shut it down by saying that “you can’t resonate with pregnant women”, implying that the hormones were making me sentimental and that I couldn’t think clearly etc. He ended up breaking up with me and told me that if I kept the baby he would never recognize it as his baby. I was devastated. After thinking long and hard, I decided to not keep the baby, since I was single, with no job at the time and my child would have had a deadbeat dad who’d never be in its life. There were a lot of factors to me taking the decision and it was really hard for me. I had no support, because I could not tell my family either, so I went through it all alone. After a little while, he found out somehow (I guess through a mutual friend) about the abortion and then he decided he wanted me back since I was not pregnant anymore. He was begging me, stalking me, threatening to kill himself and even saying that if I got back with him we could have another baby. I did not go back to him, but he stalked me on social media for years, also asking people for my number, my new address etc. A few years later I couldn’t handle it anymore with him finding my number again and messaging me with threats of killing himself, so I ended up forwarding everything to his dad and haven’t heard from him since. But yeah, it was hell. Him wanting a baby and then dumping me for being stupid enough to get pregnant, and then stalking me to get me back after he found out that I didn’t keep the baby.....

I get wanting to still live your life after kids, but I’m so tired of going to spaces obviously designated for adults and there’s kids. I went to a birthday pool party at my friends house and these couples brought their nearly newborn babies. They were shocked there was loud music and people drinking. They even requested the music be turned down. Also, bars and breweries are not for kids. I thought that was common sense.

I feel like the childfree lady needs to be more direct and say to her friends she wants to hang out just as adults instead of flaking all the time. It's fine to not want to spend your free time entertaining someone's child but just say that. If they're really friends they should be able to come to an agreement.

“I don’t want you having access to my personal computer” is a good reason, period.

All i can say is... if my friend asks me and homegirl to drive over and sit in the parking lot... I'm coming with a weapon. Non-violent people don't need to be babysat. Buddy boi woulda have gotten YEARS worth of THREE Women's life trauma beaten out of him if he came at me with some "move and let me hit her or i'll hit you too". He might be able to take one woman, but 3 would dog-walk him. He'd never raise his hand to another person again.

Polycule is a play on molecule. It refers to a network of people who are romantic or sexual with each other.

Thanks for mentioning that Dissociative Identity Disorder is a real thing. It's hard enough without being constantly told it wasn't by people on the media. Thanks, really means a lot to us!

"The only sense you can talk into him is breaking up." Exactly. Nothing wrong with being a stay at home partner if you're both okay with that arrangement. But bro...she's not okay with it and you're not even doing the housework?? Get out. I hope she moves to a new place, honestly. He was making threats. He might follow through.

Even with birth control can fail. Nothing is 100% except not having sex. I always talk about what if the birth control fails before ever having sex. I think this should be even more true if you don’t want children. 🤦‍♀️

My son had jet black curly hair when he came out his hair turned blonde and was straight by the time he was one🤷🏻‍♀️ babies are wild lol.

A lot of blondes are born with jet black hair and it lightens up. My nephew was born with jet black hair and it turned almost platinum blonde.

Ya'll are literally the cutest Reddit red podcasts I've found. The friendship and vibes are litchtrally immaculate. Keep on being great you guys! (now imagine singing that previous sentence to the dance jingle.)

Polyamory/ Polyamorous Relationships aren’t a “third” it’s more like a group of people who are all dating each other at once, and the size of a polyamorous relationship can be as small as 3 but I’ve seen some polycules as big as 6 people. And as for the story, OP isn’t the asshole but it’s definitely a hard choice they have to make considering that Dave would also be included in photos and videos from the day, meaning that they can’t just suck it up, because they’ll have to see him every time they want to look back on their wedding especially since their relationship seems pretty new (considering Dave’s age and the fact OP barely knows them) it’s just safer to keep them out of it then have to cringe once it falls apart (age gaps rarely work out in poly relationships)

On the last story: OP absolutely has the right to say no, esp. when they moved another young man his age into his bedroom? That would make anyone uncomfortable and it does feel suspect.

On the good stepdad thing, my stepdad fully was my male father figure other than the odd weekend or vacation with my Dad. My twins have both of their names as middle names, and both walked me down the aisle. He's the one who helped when they were babies and helped me with my homework or swim meets growing up. He's called Grampa just like my dad, he's earned that. Never once did I say you're not my dad, my mom said that was his worst fear as we definitely butted heads as a teenager. He asked my permission to marry my mom, and never treated me any differently than my half siblings. He even took me aside after they were born to say that he'd waited until they were actually born to definitely say to me that he felt no different about them than me. I got an awful stepmom and an amazing stepdad, so I figure it evens out and I still got lucky.

Birth control and condoms don’t always work… I’m here💀

It depends on what kind of birth control she was on. Some are better at protecting against pregnancy while others are better at stopping periods. Plus condoms break . It only takes one time to become pregnant

I knew that guy was insane. The guy that groomed me as a teen behaved like that guy. I hope OP stays safe. I know what it's like for a person to want to take your life and it's intense to say the least. It's not the same as someone that was cheated on unless that person is extremely dangerous.

That song is from the PBS cartoon, Arthur! There was a whole CD of songs and my sister would always pick that one for us all to have to clean the house to. 😂

The first story was a situation of setting her up to end her life cuz he couldnt control her. Hence the switch of personalities when he didnt get his way. He was escalating....she should work remote until she can relocate for good.

Hyde was the darker desires of Jekel personified which would take over Jekel due to a serum he took trying to sperate them into different people.

Childfree lady - you're NTA and you're in a different chapter in your life, perfectly okay to want a kid free night. With that being said, find some new friends with no kids if you hate kids that bad. You can't control if parents bring their kid or not, anything can happen (babysitter canceled, dad is working, grandparent isn't available). Sometimes moms don't want to bring the kid but have no choice but to do it, that doesn't mean they can't have a social life because YOU'RE uncomfortable.

She probably doesn’t want to spend her whole wedding explaining her parents are polygamous

Maybe the kids not only love their Mom, but also was afraid to lose the caring stepdad. They're young kids raised to accept their Mom's lack of stability for them, doing the limited they could to make sure everything was "okay."

Two things: I'm going to to be the odd person out and say that I'm willing to do a paternity test. Only because I've seen what happens when people break up. I've had cousins who have either told or been told by the significant other that the kid isn't their's out of anger during a huge fight. As a result, the kids didn't see their other parent until a paternity test was done. People can say they would never do that but so did my family members before they broke up with their significant others due to a bunch of reasons. Secondly, I'm glad the guy knew he didn't want kids. That being said, he said some pretty misgonistc things against girls. He mentioned how he didn't want a girl because girls are the worst and his sister gave their parents hell when she was a teen and girls just do that. That's when I went, "It's a really good idea you're getting the snip now. Kinda wish you had done it earlier but I'm glad you're doing it now."

We are poly and I would like to have our partners at things if we could but it’s okay for someone to want something like a wedding to have a limited number of people

51:32 He’s not the asshole. The fact that they were using contraception, to me is a major hint of not wanting a kid anytime soon. Also, the fact that he will still pay child support is a good thing because I support a person’s choice to not be a parent and not provide child support, but must help cover the medical expenses for prenatal and postpartum care. The ex-gf should respect his choice as he respected hers. Overall, consequences happen but people still have a choice.

The fact the Jekyll Jekyll Hyde Jekyll Hyde Hyde Jekyll song came up made me LOSE IT 😂😂😂!!! It was from Arthur too! 🤣🤣🤣

I don’t have anything against poly relationships, however the fact the parents partner is the same age as their son is VERY weird to me, and if I was in his position I would not feel comfortable having them included in my wedding especially if I don’t know them. Even if I DID know them, I’d still feel weird, because with the similarity in ages it would be like if one of my friends became my parent and that’s still fucking weird. Dave is not a parent, and doesn’t seem like he wants to be, considering OP didn’t know him, and since he’s making no effort to be apart of his life why should he have to invite him to a wedding? Arguably one of the biggest events of a persons life? Even if the couple wasn’t poly, like hypothetically say my mom was dating a dude I didn’t know and was my age, who made no effort to know me, I still would not invite him to my wedding. She either comes alone or not at all and I think that’s justified in itself

I know this is so late but HOLY SHIT I’ve had almost the same exact thing happen to me as the first story, PhD student, guilt tripping, and everything. Don’t sign leases with these people lmfao

My man works and i dont because im disabled. To compensate for not working i cook, clean, and take care of the animals. Its the least you can do

The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is a late 1800 novella. It is about a scientist (Dr. Jekyll) who is performing experiments on himself so that he can indulge in his “evil” side. Hyde and Jekyll didn’t look anything a like, but shared the same body and transformed by taking an elixir. Well guess what Hyde tries to take over Jekyll runs out of elixir and effectively dies. Hyde either unalives himself or is unalived by the state because of his crimes.

I came across you guys a few weeks ago, and honestly appreciate the chill vibes. Too many podcasts get super worked up or overdo dramatics... you guys feel like we are legit chillin and talking about random shit. Keep up the good work 😊

The Jekyll Jekyll Hyde Jekyll Hyde Hyde Jekyll song is from Arthur!!! I love hearing another person reference that because it's been living in my head rent free for years 🤣

The Jekyll/Hyde song is from the library card episode of Arthur

last person is definitely not the asshole. i think a few people in the comments are a bit dismissing of polyamory, but (1) i find it really weird that they're dating someone the same age as their child, personally, (2) he and his fiance ultimately have control over who comes to the wedding. if dave isn't invited, dave isn't invited. (3) seems to me like a new relationship - if the parents had been seeing dave long enough for op to actually form a connection with him, he would probably just be invited no questions asked. a general rule is that if you have to seriously consider if want someone at your wedding, you probably don't.

I’m about to turn 50 and y’all got me in my feelings about it now

Regarding the polycule one: I don't think OP is the asshole but I do think not having their parents at the wedding is going to bite them in the ass more down the road than letting "Dave" attend. Like i get it, it is weird that they picked someone so young for their polycule. But, weddings are a huge deal for families and the parents absent is going to be Noticed by other guests more than a random guy being around. Not to mention, it's going to damage their relationship with their parents in a most likely permanent way. Like yes, it's ultimately their wedding and thus they are fully in the right to pick who goes-- but just be aware you're pulling the nuclear option that'll have long lasting consequences and consider if it's really worth it. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

Yea it sucks for the people who don’t want kids women who don’t want kids can’t get their tubes tied most doctors won’t tie your tubes until your like late 20s and have 3 kids the only time they will tie your tubes while your young is when you have had kids and you have almost died or your on the danger pregnancy scale

That only apply to women about getting tubes tied. Men can get the snip when they feel like it. Women are pressured and doctors won’t do it unless they get permission from boyfriend , husband or if the woman is single than the dad

My experience dating guys who were 20 years older than me was that they acted luke they were 20 years younger..

If I take the effort to find someone to watch my child, I don't want to see other people's children

Story 1: I was in 2 relationships with people who said almost the EXACT same things as him. They were very abusive and manipulative. Yes, they were traumatized, but they were also abusive.

Baby daddy story: that girl tried to baby trap him. It’s clear. She thought having the baby would make them a family and he would be obligated to be with her. If he was broke I highly doubt she’d be pushing this “just try out fatherhood” nonsense

my fav wholesome friend group ugh

I love watching y’all. Your podcast get me through the week. I look forward to them coming out. This episode was funny asf. Everyone is super sweet and wholesome. Keep it up guys ❤😊 SAM you the GOAT!!!

Statistically the number of patients who gots Hys or Vesectomy's whom wanted to reverse weren't necessary high but the cost of the lawsuits due to failed reversal just made it cheaper to turn down "Elective" surgury.

I think paternity tests should be less taboo. If my partner asked me for a dna test I would have no problem with that. I have the ability to know without a doubt that my children are mine. If I were a man, I would still want to know without a doubt that my children are mine.

Oml. I loved the reference to the Jekyl Hyde song from Arthur. My mind immediately went there when they brought up the topic.

Babies change eye and hair color rapidly in the first six months. My boys both went from blue to brown. But their bright red hair stayed lol. Genetics

The boyfriend who doesn't work reminds me off my uncle. And my aunt still hasn't recovered from doing all the work and still being expected to do all chores. It doesn't do you any good. It wouldn't be so bad if he did all the chores. But he's literally leeching off of her. That's such unbalanced and disguisting behaviour, by someone who supposedly loves you.

That first story is like the DEFINITION of emotional manipulation...get outta there while you still can

51:25 The title of this story alone makes OP sound like a douchebag, but at the same time, I have heard stories about *_reproductive coercion_* at the hands of girlfriends who want kids, but their boyfriends didn't. So I definitely need to hear this story first before I make any judgment. I'm reminded of a story where this dude's girlfriend stopped taking birth control without telling him, and now she's pregnant with a child he didn't want. I also remember that story about Drake's sexual partner trying to steal his semen, and of course there's the old "poke the condom" trick.

Some deep memories unlocked with Jekyll & Hyde sing song. Arthur was the best!

A little personal input, my father-in-law is 70 and single, and he very much has toxic relationships. It's actually mind-boggling hearing his conversations with his girlfriends because they sound like insecure 20 yr Olds. 💀

I am a woman who believes men should take responsibility over their own kids, BUT... I don't understand how you can get pregnant if you always use condoms and the woman is always on birth control. They are both very safe options, and if you use both at the same time... I don't know, it seems strange. I also wouldn't beg a guy to stay if he was willing to dump me for being pregnant. There is something not right about this story. I am sus. He was very honest from the beginning. It's hard to feel like he is "the bad guy" when he was honest about not wanting kids and he made sure they were protected.

Child free one - NTA. He was honest, she didn’t want to believe it. This is on her. As a single mom, it’s not easy, but my kids were wanted by us both. It feels like she trapped him tbh

Commenting on the first story; I had a close friend who started dating an older man who was filthy rich and divorced multiple times. I noticed he started becoming increasingly possessive and she would have to whip out her phone and reply in a split second or he would go off. I talked to her many times, and she became increasingly withdrawn and more enveloped in their relationship until she lost all rights over her own life. She always felt everything was her fault and was not allowed her own social circle or to go out without him. We lost contact, and last year it broke my heart to hear she died from "accidentally" falling down their many, many flights of stairs. Be careful ladies, be strong, and know when to run the F out of there. Rest in peace love.

Many years ago my sister wanted a guy who was mildly interested in her, I remember her telling me how excited she was when she got pregnant even though he said he didn't want a kid. He dumped her and refused to see her, but for the entire pregnancy she kept saying, he'll change his mind once he sees his child. NOPE, dude moved to another state and paid child support through the state and never had anything to do with their child.

I couldn't imagine being the partner in a childless relationship that stays home for absolutely no reason and not feeling guilty and ontop of that lying and making everyone think your the bread man, thats absolutely crazy to me. I recently got a job but for the last 2 years I was the jobless partner because of health issues I was having and even then I felt immensely guilty about not contributing financially and not being able to buy nice things for my partner,, and thats with a good reason to not be working. Let alone on top of that not doing any household chores, I couldn't do everything but i still made sure i cleaned at the very least twice a week, how do people like that luve with themselves knowing theyre doing absolutely nothing while their partner is putting in hard work and stressed out to take care of them smh

Ive been bingeing all your episodes yall seem like so much fun ❤

Loving the fact that it’s an hour and 22 minutes already

Got my tubes removed this year at 23 years old. Then again I live in Florida and wasn’t hard to find a doctor

Wait wait wait I am so excited at the Montgomery brawl reference!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you all do a video on that??????

The "Jekyll, Jekyll, Hyde" thing might be from an episode of Arthur

The shirt of "I'm not the step dad, I'm the dad who stepped up" is from a podcast called Dungeons and Daddies for anyone interested! Season 1 and it is absolutely hilarious!! That said this podcast is amazing! Y'all have really chill vibes and good takes!

I only just got into this show and I’m really liking it! Wish it was on my podcast app tho, would be nice to put this in the work queue

51:25 He is NTAH. If a woman has a right to choose not to be a mother via various abortion options a man should have the right to also opt out. I wholeheartedly believe this. And I know that my opinion rankles a lot of people's feathers but I honestly cannot bring myself to care. I think fair is fair. A woman can very much get their tubes tied these days easily, we always tell the men to get the snip but never acknowledge women also have this option and women regularly lie about BC to try and trap a man in a relationship or for Child Support.

Don't want kids ever ever ever? Don't have heterosexual sex. That is the only surefire way never to have kids. Even a vasectomy and tubes tied is not guaranteed contraception. Life finds a way.

Poli relation topic. This is your special day and you are the one who should be happy if your parents don't understand that....they don't deserve to go. NO you are not the AH they are

I had a similar story happen to me when I got pregnant with my son. Our situation was a little different (we were irresponsible one time after a night of drinking) and I ended up deciding I wanted to keep the baby. Our relationship was also new, so when I sat him down and told him I did not have any automatic expectations for him to be a dad, but that this was a decision I felt was right for myself and I respected his choice too. Luckily he did end up wanting to be involved but I can’t imagine trying to force that on someone who has made it clear they don’t want a kid.

Maddy shouldn’t be allowed to transition, I feel like she almost always cut the conversation about the current story short when she do

I love these people and the really make my day ur with these stories

Everyone’s faces during the stories kill me 😂

Um...how old are all of y'all, that you think 51 is so old that he wouldn't be texting before now?

12:19 that song is from Arthur! Ahh I got so happy when you sang it!

lol I love Sam for knowing the Arthur Reference!!!! Because as soon as y’all said it, I sang it!

Jekyll, Jekyll, Hyde, Jekyll, Hyde, Hyde, Jekyll. Jekyll, Jekyll, Hyde, Jekyll, Hyyyyyde! From Arthur!! 😂

By that logic, does that dad not love his child unconditionally because he loves his wife more? Also prioritizing a child who was brought into the world by you, and possibly your partner, is not a bad thing. You chose to bring them into the world, and the goal is to have a partner who understands your love for your child and, at the bare minimum, respects that, and ideally would match that, because that is their child too. Now, when the child is grown up and out of the house as an adult taking care of themselves, and you and your partner are alone together again, then you are able to prioritize that partnership again. Why does prioritization have to mean loving someone more or less? It doesn’t. So many people confuse the two, and it leaves people feeling unloved. If mothers did not prioritize their children then we would never have survived as a species.

I actually have an older man (in his 50s/60s) that follows me on tiktok and he messages back to back even when I don't answer lol! He goes from "good morning" to "f*ck you if u ain't got time to even say hello" 😂😂 like what?!!

Both my kids was born with black hair. I'm a dark blond and my husband is light blonde. After 3-4 weeks, it fell off, and out grew blonde hair. It's a pretty common thing.

Probably won't get read but that song in your head "Jekyl Jekyl Hyde Jekyl Hyde Hyde Jekyl" that's from Arthur!!😂😂😂 it was the library card episode and the Brain was singing it. Memories. I hope you go and see it 12:10

I haven’t even watched all of this video yet, but my first reaction was, “Seriously?! Dude, you’re already a dad, like it or not. Man-Child, stop whining. Get over it. Grow up, step up!”

The invalidation of polycules smh

The case of the 3 month relationship getting pregnant and the bf wanting to leave happened to my ex partner. Before we got together he started a sexual relationship with a coworker and in 2/3 months she got pregnant. In our country termination of pregnancy is legal and so there was a discussion about an abortion. They agreed they would have one (she had one kid from before who was about 7, father wasn't in the picture either). He got the money and went to drop it to her and then she says she wants to keep it. He didn't agree. They broke up basically but he had to basically watch her be pregnant at work. His family forced him to sign the birth certificate (alot of guilting and crying and shaming him, manipulation). Before the baby is even born the lists of all the baby stuff started. He would give her stuff. All the while he has asked for a paternity test. He would give her whatever she needed. She would get mad and basically smear campaign within the office. He was essentially pushed out of the company he was going to take over as the director. He left, and she kept asking for stuff. He kept asking for the test. Until the child was like 3 yr old she finally admitted that she didn't think of the child's emotional needs when she decided to keep him. Because he started to distance himself even though his mother kept close. Kind inappropriately close even against his wishes. We got together. He would go see her from time to time but since we broke up like 2 yrs ago I have no clue what's going on now. To this day we don't know if the child is his. She said she would just take his name off when he asked again for the 3rd time or so.

@Sam, you're thinking about when Arthur did a musical episode about Jekyll and Hyde. Just like the Library card song. It slaps.

to help a bit with understanding polyamory, i’ll tell a bit about my situation. Sorry if some of these terms are new. I’m polyamorous and i’m dating 2 people and we all live together. My polycule consists of about 8 people total but our relationships are all separate I’ve been with one person for almost 7 years, my other partner for 3 years. My partner of 7 has a partner (that i don’t date) for 2 years and my other partner is only dating me at the moment. I have another partner is is a QPP (queer platonic partner) which means not romantic but we consider each other partners. My partner of 7 years also has a QPP who is dating someone that has a boyfriend so technically they’re apart of our polycule also but more distant. But i mainly group the main 4 of my relationships as my personal polycule

My sister's hair was black when she was born, then red, then blonde as a little kid...

No y'all were right about Dr. jeckle and Mr Hyde. It's a book about a scientist who experiments on himself and then he either physically transforms or his personality transforms (Its been a while since I read it so I don't remember which) but Jekyll is all his "good" traits and Hyde is the "bad" side

I’m wondering if that kid is even his or if he was the one with the most financial stability and so he became the father. I hope it’s not his. Also as a polyamorous person they’re not the asshole but depending on the length of the relationship with Dave I understand the parents.

This episode is absolutely hilarious 😂

For anyone in a similar work situation: act normal up to the meeting time then oh man wouldn't you know it the wifi just cut out how weird! So you're just joining the call via dialing in with your phone but can't share your screen obviously. If you want to go true aggro follow up your "sorry I can't share my screen" with "but you've got this boss so go ahead and share your screen".

I don't have kids but I have friends who do, sometimes if we meet up they bring the kids along and it's nice to see their kids as well. If we are meeting in the evening or for something more adult like a meal and drinks, then they wouldn't bring them. There is a time and place for kids and a BBQ and wine night ain't it. OP should want to spend time with their friends kids *some* of the time, but the friends are being inconsiderate by bringing them all the time.

To the guy who doesn’t want kids…. Get a vasectomy!!! What is wrong with you?? You have sex, you can have a child. You need to man up. You can legally get a vasectomy at 18. If the doctor doesn’t want to do it, find someone else.

My sister and her husband didn’t want kids until after medical school. She was on birth control but the got pregnant and had a baby. They were planning on having kids so it worked out

i fucking lost it at "Montgomery brawl" part 😂

It's her wedding but she's still the asshole. That's like saying your divorced parent's new partners can't come. And I know you guys, you'd say she was the asshole if she didn't want a gay, trans, or person of colour there, right??? Why is a different kind if relationship any different?????? She doesn't like Dave for personal and petty reasons, and that's no different than a homophobe not liking someone for being gay. "If she liked him" doesn't count when it's simply because she doesn't personally like a relationship dynamic. It doesn't matter if you don't like a guy because he's different, you're an asshole for being petty. Polyamory isn't "wild". You don't get how it "works in real life" because you've been raised around monogamy, just like homophobes who were only raised around straight people. "I don't get how being gay works, that's wild, you can't even have kids!" Like...so??? It's just people who happen to work differently. It just seems like a very biased situation because so many people seem to be against poly people, even though it's just a different relationship dynamic. No different than being gay being just another type of sexuality. When is this weird bias against different people going to end????? I usually wouldn't be so pissed, but I kerp seeing this everywhere. People judging poly people and even mocking them, I just don't get why. I get sick of hearing it, it's so disheartening.