Analyzing a PLO hand (with a guest host!) 

In this hand Im check raise shoving on the flop.... this little of stack it feels that it must be wrong not to get all in with top set!

Very confused as to why this isn't a slam dunk check-raise on the flop. A pot size raise, if called, puts the pot at around $60 and the remaining stacks at around $20, so you're never folding on any turn card since even if opponent just completed a straight or a flush you have the odds to draw to a boat on the river. Just calling flop with top set on a drawy board, especially since hero's hand blocks made hands and unblocks draws, feels like the usual terrible slowplay. What's even the argument for not raising? Being afraid of being an underdog to a monster draw? A set is ahead of a straight flush draw, it's also ahead of a wrap. It's only behind a wrap plus flush draw, and even then not by much.

I'm fairly new to PLO, but something discussed about the flop that I've seen a lot in my limited PLO experience is "donk leading". It seems like in PLO we aren't playing in flow as a standard line like we usually do in NLH. I've talked to some more experienced PLO players that I know and have been told that I need to forget about automatically checking to the PF raiser. While we will obviously do so, in seems like leading into the PF raiser is a more common line in PLO, since equity denial is so much more important.

At this stakes PLO with that much in the pot way more hands are calling that turn all in with less than the nuts. Top set plays out well vs a double flush draw because it covers some flush outs in full houses.

Interesting theory about reviewing winning hands, it makes sense but it’s not the human thing to do. It’s almost like how I used to make the mistake of playing long sessions when I was stuck and when I was running good I would cut the session short. Anybody know where to find a PLO5/PLO6 calculator?

10 seconds into the video, I notice the background composite. What fraternity?

Number one thing is for me at least is that I play even tighter and a p l o then I do in no limit hold them. I also always assume somebody's got the nuts. So unless I can mathematically beat the knots that I'm assuming somebody has I'm folding. Also I rarely rarely bluff in PLO and I still almost always get paid when I do have it

with plo the first thiung i learned was fast play the nuts if the nuts can change with a single card

5 is clean on the turn

Do we call jam on 2h river?

How does a 5 complete a straight?

Pot pot repot!! How many times you want to run it?? LOL

Yea no, less than 100bb effective flop and turn are absolutely check rips, turn you still have the 2nd nuts and his bet size makes me think he has exactly what he had. He made a huge turn mistake and you let him off the hook by CCing.

The great game.

Love the channel. Great hand analysis! Please add more PLO content.

Dana sounds like Jonathan Little.

👌Great hand, analysis and caller

O H !!

Holy shit the analysis for a $40 hand is over the fucking top. Top set is check-raise ram jam get it in OOP this short-stackef. Holy shit who is this guy Bart has doing analysis holy shit he is still talking about this fucking hand like it's high stakes and 500 bbs deep what the fuck am I even listening to rn???

Talk for 30 minutes about a top set with an spr of 5? Can make it $30 and have $10 behind. Leading is OK, but Id rather see a free turn than see a turn inna bloated pot where now I can get blown off my equity. Check calling lets 2 or 3 players behind chase medoocre draws for a good price! Make them pay. Also if you flat, you let TT and 55 off the hook when a scare card comes. Get that shit in there, if they fold a nake flush draw or sd... you want to give 3 player a shot at their draws with a good price and let coolers off the hook. . its really not bad if they call or fold, as long as we jam.

Yeah....gotta disagree with most of these comments. You all need to slow down and listen to EVERYTHING this dude says. He's next level smart.... just listen to how he explains how the villain actually lost money. If you're on that level....live and in the hand....then wow. But I'm not buying it.....cause if you were, you'd realize that this dude knows his shit. Very interesting to see and hear who Bart talks poker with.....

I do play PLO and I don't like this analysis.. When Ryan says "a bad card is any card from a 5 to an Ace(8:40) can be a bad card for hero's hand because it completes some sort of straight", it is just completely wrong.. a 5 DOESN'T complete any draws.. a 6 gives hero a boat. Any card from a 7 and higher is bad for hero unless its a paired board or a Queen. Thankfully he does correct his statement further into the video but the harm has already been done. I do agree when he says.. "we can evaluate turns based on what our opponent does." Not really considering opponent range and instead shifts the analysis to a lower board... ??? What does that have to do with this board? Throwing in too many concepts and adding confusion. Did reviewer review this hand before he did this analysis? It seems like he was just winging it to me. I believe hero is a dog to a wrap and that doesn't even come into the discussion. Hero has no blockers to flush or straights. "We're allowing villain to realize equity going to the turn.." Villain is going to realize his equity weather we check or raise. When throwing in opponent with 2 pair is pointless. Opponent's range is a clear straight or flush draw and/or both on the turn. When caller asks "donk the turn?" Simple answer is What are you trying to accomplish and what happens when raised? It serves no purpose. We're not stuck on a 8 on the turn, we strictly in Bluff Catcher territory. Ace of club and Ace of spade are still in play so villain could be still behind a massive wrap with a massive advantage. I really do enjoy crushlivepoker but adding in PLO hands like this really is a bad idea because it really just creates more confusion on concepts that aren't helpful. Instead of being helpful, it is just harmful to players.

A few mandatory things you should know about PLO... This is a flop game. Always drow to the nuts. Know how to pot control. Position is more important in this game than no limit hold them. If you going to play you better have a big bankroll.

If you are a good Holden player, why are you so bad at Omaha?

I cannot listen to people who got verbal crutches!! Bro stop saying Ummm