Shhhh they’re super straight...they said it sooo many times..they’re still trying to convince themselves as well as convince us...but they’re like totally straight..duh!
Men trying to say they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility without directly saying they don’t see women as equals, and only consider them valuable when sex is a possibility for 20 minutes.
@Judy Mwanzo the same feminists trying to still complain about a wage gap and how society is oppressing women instead of actually educating themselves....sheeesh what is this 2021?
Yup One of them was even a prostitute... Who he was purely a spiritual teacher to... Told men to pluck out their own eyes if they felt the desire to sin when they were turned on by a woman
Their talk about not being able to spend time with women they aren't dating/married to has "Mike Pence refusing to be left alone with a woman and bringing his wife everywhere" energy. Like it's not the respectful move they think it is ; it's just them admitting they don't know how to act around women
Not only that but it shows they don't value women other than as a partner? Like they see a woman and their minds just go to "must have sex to talk or be friendly" And to go further, I don't think they value women as humans either tbh. To them it's just 'woman = friend you have sex with but you cannot not have sex' which is what dating is for most people anyway. And when it comes to half of the population it's just dating. Do they realize they have moms even? Women can be a whole a lot to you, sisters, friends, girlfriends etc. and yet they see women as not even human, alongside men.
@@suddypahp5224 they straight up believe the only women with LITERALLY ANY VALUE TO THEM are ones they can sleep with. shocked pikachu face when they get called sexist.
it’s a huge thing for fundamentalists. my dad used to bring me along when my mom wasn’t available if he had to talk to a woman at church. it’s called the billy graham rule :/ (obviously bc it was propagated by the protestant king of absent fathers and shitty husbands: billy graham)
when one of them said "their standing up for women" in a mocking tone while laughing, it really showed that they are well aware that they're putting women down constantly.
@@CyberrShrimp Yeah it is. It just replaced stewardess and now it’s flight attendant. Yeah I think people say personal assistant or sometimes receptionist but not secretary. It’s interesting how names for things change but sometimes it’s for the best.
"Women should treat their husbands like Jesus" Sure, I'll consider that when my husband washes my feet, turns water into wine, walks on water, and revives after death.
I am a Christian and I actually read the scriptures you’re referring to and you hit the nail and pinned the tail on the donkey. You understand the Bible better than some Christian men out there! A man should be willing to sacrifice his life for his wife. That’s the whole premise of marriage in the Christian context.
@fright car what about feminism isnt needed? it aims to promote a healthy culture free from the negative expectations placed on the sexes? i think now more than ever its needed
@fright car abortion is literally being banned in texas what the fuck are you talking about edit: also in a lot of countries, trans people are being stripped of their rights. trans issues are inherently feminist issues because there are a) trans women and b) trans men/enbies with uteruses. sex workers barely have any rights and are treated as criminals. i realize i might come off as aggressive but that's because i feel like a stance like that needs to be challenged. until gender is literally gone from the world, feminism will be important, because feminism isn't just "women's rights to do stuff".
They're explaining the word 'mansplain' on their podcast called 'Mansplain' but clearly don't understand what 'mansplain' actually means. It's a mansplainception.
@@joshualai5359 they honestly explained it well, its just a man explaining something in a condescending way, im not sure if this refers to a man explaining something exclusively to women or if it includes other genders but examples include men trying to explain cars and stocks and all that
@@joshualai5359 They were right that it is when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending way, but it also usually involves a topic that the woman is already more well-versed in than said man. An example could be a cisgender man explaining how periods work to a cisgender woman. It undermines the woman's first-hand experience and implies that they know more than she does, despite the fact that it is her lived experience. Another one could be a man who has taken one coding class explaining how computer science works to a female who is a programmer by profession.
it makes me really happy when a guy i'm interested in has close friendships with girls, because it means he can see women as actual human beings, not sex objects
ikr?? my boyfriend, although actually an introvert, tends to be sociable (unlike me haha) so he made quite a few friends while being an exchange student at my high school (how we met) - including the children of the host he was with - and some of them were girls. But he didn't really treat them different, he just was nice to everyone. I remember falling harder for him after seeing him interact with the daughters of the host family so genuinely - he even once sent me a picture after he let a couple of them put makeup on him lol~ It was adorable. (I think part of it was also because he wishes he had a little sibling growing up but he's an only child, so - either way, he's a precious man.) Admittedly there was one time where I felt a little bad when he was interacting with another exchange student who was a girl - but that's because there was a misunderstanding on my end and I thought he liked her (and i have very low self-esteem due to my depression, so that didn't help) - we were both very oblivious to each other's feelings for a long time lmao.
As a bi woman I think it’s HILARIOUS when men say you shouldnt be friends with the opposite sex, like if we’re going by logic I couldn’t be friends with anyone
@@theonewhosthere he said men are only sexually and romantically attracted to walking fleshlights, not women with personalities or a sense of humour. translation: men are vapid scum
The sad thing is that this is exactly why so many straight people don't trust us. They don't see it as possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to, so they perceive us bi people as sex-crazed and dyed in the wool cheaters.
i KNOW these guys didn't just claim that HETEROSEXUAL MALE FRIENDSHIP is being underrepresented in media in favor of gay relationships..... i wanna scream
Fr the fact that I have a pussy shouldn’t define whether or whether not I’m respected, respect should be mutual and if a guy doesn’t respect me I will not be respecting him
FeMaLeS are only there for one thing..sex. Obviously. Idk about you but I for sure don’t have a personality or feelings or goals or anything...o solely exist for my husband to use my body as his very own sex doll...duh 🙄
@@addisoncundiff8293 and women just can’t not have feelings for these guys. because obviously if we are trying to have a friendship with anyone it’s with the ulterior motive of entering a long term romantic relationship with them. instead of idk just want to have friends. definitely not lol
“Emotional sex” is so funny because it means these guys are so against being close to women for things other than sex that they think any kind of closeness to a woman is inherently sexual.
This is an unfortunately very prevalent attitude, explicitly and implicitly (the former being most present in fundamentalists, the latter in non-fundamentalists, most typically) within Christianity.
@Babba Yaaga muslims as well !! i kinda stop going to a few mosques in my city bc the men or even their wives's or children look at me in disgust bc im not wearing a hijab i always wear muslimah clotes and i still feel undomfortable honestly, i ask this to my friend and he said "you better not look something that might give you lust" like... tf ? you got horny from looking at womens hair or what ? yeah i cut all ties with my friend shortly after that lol
what makes me chuckle is how they "don't wanna pursue friendships with women for the sake of their future wives" but how they gonna get wives if they're avoiding all female contact hahahaha
“There’s nothing you can get from a friendship with a girl that you can’t get from a friendship with a guy. So girl friendships are unnecessary” yeah but. Hot take here. It’s not the gender of the friend that matters, it’s about the unique person. You can’t just exchange one person for another and expect the same experience cause every person is unique. It’s about the personality. I know, controversial opinion here.
And earlier in the podcast, they literally said you shouldn’t assign traits to someone based on their gender. So does gender matter or does it not matter?? 😂
Also doesn’t that statement literally put men and women on the same level 😭😂 like he’s saying they both offer the same thing in friendships sooooo why avoid friendships with women?
"Same sex affection is not same sex attraction". " You can't be friends with a girl bc friendship is relationship without sex" Must be hella confusing to be them.
It IS hella confusing. I grew up in this world, and I've come to understand that Christianity is both hypersexualized and sexually starved, since they are taught to avoid sexual temptation CONSTANTLY, yet are not taught to look at women in any way other than potential sexual temptation... It's a cruel irony, and insanity. And, IMO, explains why so many of them get busted for sexually deviant behavior. And this podcast is the blind leading the blind. Sad. 🤦♂️
@@TheGuardDuck there’s a reason the vatican is sus. Religion in general makes s*x such a taboo. S*xual suppression often leads to hypers*xuality or straight up s*xual deviance/crime.
I went to Catholic school with John Michael in 8th grade. He was pretty much an arrogant bully. Below is what I remember of him: He made fun of the guys who liked Lord of the Rings. Once, he railed into them because he found it stupid that they were saying aloud the title abbreviation, LotR, as “LO-DER”. (His struggle to grasp acronyms goes way back. If he had actually watched or read LotR, he wouldn’t need to lament “lack of close male friendships in media”.) His looks made him popular with the girls. Our paths crossed sometimes as I was constantly on mission to blend in with all the other girls, in the hopes that being normal would make me less of a target for bullying. On one occasion, I was lucky enough to sit at the edge of the popular girls’ table. Johnathan spoke in a very sexually explicit way to and about the girls. He recounted an incident in which he had seen one of the girls present getting out of the shower, and that he had seen her breasts. He teased her about their small size, and talked about feeling them up. Having come from a sheltered environment, I remember feeling so shocked by his gross behavior. Another time, I was huddled around a year book in a group of girls with Johnathan. He started ridiculing the photos of people he believed to be ugly losers. Eventually, he pointed to my picture and made a comment about my supposed ugliness- Dead silence. No one laughed. I remember thinking, “He really doesn’t realize I’m standing right here, right in front of him.” The lack of response from the other girls tipped him off to my presence, so he fumbled about and tried to act like that’s not what he meant. At the time, it really hurt, but in hindsight, it’s pretty funny to have witnessed his lack of situational awareness cause him some mild embarrassment. I like to think that people improve with time, but it’s likely that he’s more or less the same as he was 15+ years ago, albeit now with a public persona that presents as squeaky-clean & Christian. This man really do be 30 years old acting like he’s 13. :/
I was in a church which was more of a room above a store. Anyway projection was HUGE. Im a guy and one time they were preying me and one of them, this john legend lookalike, made this quip 'rebuking' my feminine spirit. I was humiliated it was in front of the other guys there. It was really bad and horrible. The other guys were always attacking my perceived lack of masculinity. Theyd REVILE my cross earring, it was literally everything they represent and they HATE IT. Now i believe Jesus is lord so i forgive em. BUT they better not. In anither church they had a whole ass exorcism ritual cuz they thought i was gay. Like im really not sexually promiscuous but still.
This sounded just pathetic to me. These guys talked in this section as if all of them were powerful CEOs who have secretaries to take care of their important business schedules. They are almost hopping into wattpad territory.
As “one of the good ones,” (I feel weird using that statement) I’ve gotta say, I’m sorry and embarrassed and sorry that all straight women have to go through this
@@quest8447 Truth. These guys are ankle biters in comparison to the rest of...well, a lot of people who aren't insufferable douchebags who think they're better than others simply because they are men, have way TOO many followers, and as they put it "close to God and Jesus". They're just obnoxious and loud. The more clout we give them, the more they'll spew their nonsense out on the rest of us who are just simply trying to enjoy life and make it day by day without being judged simply because of the color of our skin, or gender and sex, who we choose to go out with or marry, or what friends we have, what food we eat, etc....the list is quite frankly exhausting and long to go through. This whole podcast gives me such a huge amount of second-hand embarrassment for just how dimwitted and willingly ignorant they are.... and *condescending*, and using their own religious beliefs to excuse being a misogynistic, transphobic/homophobic asshole. Sadly this isn't even new, it's just that these guys are pushing their platforms of hate around and people watch them and give them views/ratings/followers. Like a little dog who just took a dump on your living room carpet and looked at you excitedly and tried to show that they have done something good, when reality - it's just shit.
@@RevanRA It's not a excuse to be that way , it's living the right way. Have you thought of it this way if Adam and Eve didn't sin you'd be a Christian. I don't want you to think I'm showing my "beliefs" on you. We're not hateful or judgmental we only want to help and do the right thing. These men still have a lot to learn coming from a woman😅 But I prefer Adam and Eve's mistake other wise Jesus didn't do His beautiful sacrifice.❤ Where do think you'll spend your after life? 🌟😁
@@lindy9741 I'm not against religion or religious freedoms, I'm against when people DO in fact use their religion to be hateful. I wasn't painting all of Christianity with a broad brush here, I merely just want peoples' different beliefs be respected. I am a spiritual man at heart, but I do not go around saying, "Oh, you're possessed by the Devil for believing in something different than me." I have no doubt you are a nice person who respects boundaries, but these guys are the definition of cringe.
It bugs me how many people don't recognize that a key element of mansplaining is that the woman already understands what is being "explained" to her, often better than the man. Sometimes they are literal experts on the topic being explained to them. It's the assumption that you couldn't possibly know what you're talking about or already understand that makes it so infuriating.
@@panepena7715 No, there aren't other words to describe the phenomenon of men "explaining" things at women who already understand the topic. It's called mansplaining because it's rooted in the sexist assumption that women don't understand what they're talking about.
@@nonaide Wouldnt that be a bit specific case to invent the word? Dont women do that too? Anyone with big ego does that. It may also come from experiences and assuming that the motive is sexist and making up words based on it is redicilous.
I'm going to school for microbiology and a woman mansplained gut microbes to me. She spoke to me like if I was a five year old. I didn't say anything to her. I wanted to see what she had to say. 😅🤣
No - Idol worship would be failing to recognize Christ as Lord, and putting another before him. Woman honoring their husbands as they would Christ still place Christ as the highest standard. And this SHOULD go both ways - the point is that all of us have a speck of divine inspiration within us, made in the image of God, and thus we should imbue other humans with a certain measure of dignity and respect. This is the literal foundation for the Western notion of human rights. Also consider Matthew 25:40 "And God will answer, "Whatever you did for any of my people, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did it for me" ' - this shows that because we're divinely inspired, good treatment of our fellow humans is akin to good treatment of God, and in fact a means of worshipping God. Also consider the parable of the good Samaritan - the idea that we should love our neighbor as ourselves, but also be the loving neighbor even if the other person doesn't deserve it, because we're respecting that the other person is a fellow creation of God. I imagine the verse these guys are drawing from is Ephesians 5:22 - "Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord". Submission doesn't necessarily mean blind, silent obedience - it means allowing and encouraging your husband to be the spiritual leader of the family unit. Because we've been so intent on erasing differences between sexes and replacing them with a spectrum of genders, we haven't questioned the functional roles these differences can play - An ideal family structure features man as spiritual leader, providing for his family and imparting high values, and woman as nurturer, demonstrating God's love to her family and creating a positive environment for the family. Both roles equally important, and both difficult to fully embody - not all men are cut out for leadership, and not all women are cut out for nurturing, and yet we must put God first and let him help us become who we were meant to be. Likewise, men are instructed to love their wives as Christ loved the church - this is as important as Ephesians 5:22, though many men do fail to live up to it.
@@camillashimwa7671 As you shouldn't - wives are called to HONOR their husbands as they would honor God. That is, to have a willing and giving spirit, and to be faithful and loving. This doesn't mean wives are supposed to shut up and do whatever their husbands say, especially if the husband's demands conflict with God's. Rather, wives are to approach marriage considering how they might build up their husband through love and respect so that he might lead the family down the righteous path, though she ultimately serves God first. Likewise, the husband is to be a loving and gracious leader, walking with God and providing for his family. Though we are to 'submit' to God's will, he has given us free will so that we might choose his leadership, and he does not rule through fear and force. Likewise, the husband should not be sitting around thinking about the ways in which his wife could better serve his needs - that is her job. His job is to think about how he could better lead his family and serve them. Put simply, the Biblical recommendation is to be in servitude to your husbands, wives, your families. If submission was truly, and only, tyrannical, why should we submit to God? Submission is not derogatory - it is spiritually powerful. As Christians, we take power in empowering others through acts of selflessness. This is obviously a bit counterintuitive, because as humans, we tend to think of power as a means of controlling other people.
@@bradyhayes9818 girl i aint reading your essay. Thé only person who I will treat and honour like God is God himself. Will I love my husband? Of course. Will I respect him? Of course. But will I bow down to him and worship him like he is God? No way.
Literally It feels like I’ve been dragged along by one of my female friends who knows this guy and I’m just sat there being forced to listen because they won’t let me speak
It’s funny how some Christians always bring up that women should submit to their husbands and honour them like God but will never bring up the fact that under that phrase it says that men should want to die for their wives and love them how Christ loves the church. 🤔
First, you don't seem christian I would like you to know no one ever says to treat the husband like God. These dudes are a minority of a minority in a religion of 2 billion but yes, submitting to your husband is true as men should save their wives. Why is submitting to your husband or wife wrong? Both have roles in the family. Its okay for someone to submit and slave over their boss and work but for your family its somehow wrong?
@@profile1172 First, I’m a Christian and second I never mentioned that a person couldn’t submit to their partner - I was just pointing how one phrase is cherry picked and used in contexts that it wasn’t meant for ;For example being used by misogynistic men
as a young christian i find it sad (and a bit hilarious) that some people still have this messed up idea of what being christian is all about it breaks my heart just seeing them use religion as an excuse for misogyny, ignorance and overall being toxic af and hateful, and i hate when people assume im that narrow minded too just because of my faith :/
Maybe when having theological discussions about women, you should have some women involved???? Or literally anyone who is actually educated on biblical language, history, and interpretation
As someone with a Master's in Theology, these kinds of discussions are the theological equivalent to Temptation Island :D I watch them for the sweet tingle of cringe
@@cc-terfay Haha :D But seriously, I'm more pissed about how these types spread misogyny and racism than them being misinformed, as understanding of religious texts is never fixed anyway. (And folks with little or no theological knowledge can live a life of love and caring for their neighbor.) These asshats use religion as a tool for clout.
dude are you serious? you want them to talk to a women?! that would be cheating! think of how devastated their future wives would be if they found out they once spoke to a female human being.
It's honestly a perfectly advertised podcast like this sounds weird but I didn't expect a podcast named mansplain to actually mansplain every fucking thing
6:40 “if a woman felt that it’s offensive then it’s offensive doesn’t matter if you were contending it or not it doesn’t matter” proves that none of these men paid any attention to their work place sexual harassment training.
Your God-given intuition serves you well. None of these dudes are followers of Christ because their message is the opposite of His. They're dehumanizing and rejecting loving relationships with women; Christ humanized, uplifted, talked to, accepted, and redeemed women. The difference is like night and day.
@@FloppityFlopFlop777 I disagree. I don't see how Christianity is not mired in sexism, when we are expected to submit to our husbands as we submit to GOD. Scripture has very specific teachings that a woman's natural body and menstruation makes her impure, that she must hide herself to be cleansed and not be touched for a week after. Eve was famously made from a rib of Adam (weird since in real life men come from a woman's body) after his first mate Lilith didn't submit to him. The story of Eve and the serpent teaches that the pain of childbirth is the fault of a woman. None of this reads as respectful, peaceful, or loving. "Love thy neighbor" falls kinda flat when there's so many unloving ways Christians are expected to treat their female members. Religion is wielded as a cudgel against women worldwide, for the simple fact of them being women. I do not deny that Christianity is responsible for good deeds, inspiration, and community across the world. But I also believe it's intellectually dishonest to say that Christianity serves women like it does men. How on earth can we expect text and teachings from 2000 years ago to NOT be intrinsically tied to sexism?
@bean dog LOL what? I’ve never heard of the teaching that a woman’s natural body and menstruation makes her impure-and I’m Christian and was raised in the church. The Bible teaches that God created BOTH man and woman in His own image (Genesis 1:27). Anything that opposes that statement is false teaching. Eve was created from Adam’s rib; Eve is Adam’s first and ONLY wife. The Christian Bible does not mention Lilith as Adam’s first wife or as a wife at all. In the Christian Bible, Lilith is only mentioned once (Isaiah 34:14) in reference to a night creature, night bird, or a screech owl. *Note: The name “Lilith” does not appear in every translation (e.g. KJV, NIV). The Lilith you’re thinking of is found in Jewish religion-Judaism-as well as folklore. Christianity and Judaism are two different religions, so please do not confuse or combine the two. According to the Bible, Eve gave birth to all humankind-except Adam-after her creation, which I believe is why we all come from a woman. The Bible teaches that pain in childbirth was multiplied (Genesis 3:16) because of Eve’s sin, implying that childbirth was never going to be completely painless. Likewise, Adam was also punished for his sin. Notice that God didn’t appear until after BOTH Eve and Adam sinned (see Genesis chapter 3, any version). Thus, we have this verse: “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23 ESV). Still, God loves women-why would He hate His own children? There are plenty of revered women in both the Old and New Testament: Ruth, Deborah, Rahab, Esther, the Virgin Mary, Mary Magdalene and many more. Women are valued in God’s Kingdom just as much as men. Men are told to “love their wives… husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself” (Ephesians 5:25-28 ESV). If you ever see a Christian treating women as a whole in an unloving way, then they aren’t a Christian; they just claim to be. On Judgement Day, God will say to these people, “I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness” (Matthew 7:23 ESV). You can trust that the Bible can be applied even 2000 years into the future-and counting-because the Bible says so. All Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16-17), therefore, it can be trusted. If you cannot accept this, you aren’t a Christian. Rejecting the Bible is the same as rejecting God (Hosea 9:17, Luke 10:16, John 12:48). It’s as simple as that. Hope this helps!
How can girls always “friend zone” guys and “lead them on” while simultaneously always “want more from the relationship (friendship)” ?? Which is it ?? Cuz it can’t be both. PICK ONE??
Seriously. It's like all their source material for making these contradicting statements comes from different fictional movies or TV shows and not their own real life experiences lol
Yeah they gotta be specific it’s all situational some girls friendzone guys for attention some girls want more it’s fine just decided who you’d rather spend your time with
Being platonic friends with no expressed romantic interest from either side is "leading them on", if they're opposite genders (apparently???). (❓🤔❓🧐❓) Edit: but only female friends are capable of that. Male friends aren't.
This is what the boys are saying. Someone always wants more. It can be abusive and usury. Boys are friends with boys and girls are friends with girls. The rest are just acquaintances. These guys are P U R E.
Oh please I wish the things men are saying they don’t like about women actually kept them away from these women. Men are easy af and they don’t want to admit it, that in the end women hold power over them with their bodies
I love when chuds say something awful and then their response to being called out is "she's not gonna DM you bro." Like they cannot fathom that a person would have motivation for pointing out sexism outside of getting laid.
This whole group sat there for the entire podcast and said that women have no other benefits than being objects and wives and girlfriends which is so fucking sexist and it’s crazy that they all thought that those were ok statements to make.
and then theyre gonna be the same ones wondering why theyre single and blaming women for it. or theyre gonna be the same ones triggered when a girl doesnt want to have sex with them
I love the discussion about men not being able to show affection towards each other without being called gay. Yeah? I wonder who started perpetuating that idea? I wonder who helped foster the idea that we need to be accusatory and suspicious of people who may or may not be gay. I wonder why our society feels the need to stick their nose in other people's business when it comes to who they want to date. Its crazy how blind they are.
it's so ironic how true this is. the majority of issues affecting men were created and are perpetuated by other men, but they always point the finger at women or feminists
Literally it's the fucking patriarchy's fault. Dafuq are they crying about when they are the ones doing it to themselves?! So fucking stupid and tone deaf oooooh it's makes me rage
@@WerewolfCat890 Especially when most feminists are the main ones trying to steer society away from stupid views like that. But because they use a few scary words like “toxic”, people are quick to jump to conclusions about what they’re trying to say.
this is the first reply section where i liked every comment LOL but yes!!! they blame women for everything although they were the ones who created this stigma in the first place???? it’s like that meme of that guy making himself fall off his bike and then proceeding to blame something/someone totally unrelated
"No TV shows have guy friends unless they end up being gay with each other", I too hated it when Walter white left his family for Jessie and his drug empire
Them saying "honor their husband's like they would honor Jesus" is just blatantly them having a God complex, and wanting to be treated that way, which is taking the lord's name in vein
"If I go to a subway and there's a female work there and I ask her to make me a sandwich, is that sexist?" Gives me the same feeling as " oh equal rights? Equal fights too right, right?"
That comment was so weird. Like do you go to ANY restaurant and tell ANYONE “Make me a coffee.“ “Make me pasta” “Make me a burger”? Like The normal thing is “id like to order so and so” That’s hella condescending and disrespectful to say to anyone who works in food regardless of gender
the way these dudes can't even differentiate between platonic and romantic relationships? if you can't be friends with women that's a YOU problem buddy
“I can’t have platonic relationships with women. The definition of a platonic relationship is still an intimate friendship, so the only difference between that & a woman I’m married to is sex” So you admit it. You refuse to have relationships with women unless you can have sex with them
"If a wife can honor her husband like she honors Jesus..." But you're not Jesus, my guy, and you're saying she should put you or her husband on the same level as your god? Do you not see the blasphemy by your own standards? I'm an atheist, and it's readily apparent to me.
I could easily be wrong, as I was never part of the church either... but I think it's just another way of the patriarchy to exclude women. I think maybe they dont think women can have as strong a relationship with god as men do. So it's not blasphemy because women are only capable of loving God the same amount they can love and worship their husbands? Just a guess.
@@malsake3739 Just because the bible says it doesn't mean it isnt hypocritical. I am well aware of this verse as its precisely the verse that made me and my mom leave the church when I was young. She wasnt religious but took me to Sunday school in case I would get anything out of it. Now, telling my mother who ran our business, handled all financials, took care of me (without abusing me), and was the primary breadwinner to submit to my dad.. that wasnt at all acceptable. My dad stole 6k from me when I was a kid, took out 2 leans on the house and lost it, and crashed more businesses than I care to remember. If it weren't for that, I might be a Christian today. You would think that saving souls would be more important than adhering to words a mortal man wrote ages ago but, I guess not. Oh wait... no sorry, saving souls is more important than that when it comes to mixed fibers and shell fish. Just not when it comes at the expense of male superiority. Which is, again, hypocritical. Why dont you focus on your soul and I'll focus on mine.
Honoring your husband is basically showing your respect to him like you would respect Jesus. It’s not saying that they are on the same level of God. We know fully well that God is above us and we submit to his authority. Jesus is that saying wives should follow in suit with this same submission to their husbands. If you would like to discuss more I am happy to explain in a healthy way of course.
Oh man, I'm glad somebody else noticed-- I'm not ace (I am queer though, trans guy with a nonbinary fiancé, & we're straight passing IRL which tends to give me a sense of being an undercover spy on this culture), but I am super into romance, and while the best romance has a foundation of healthy friendship it's an entirely different beast with such intense feelings woven into it. Not understanding that honestly makes me feel like they haven't even experienced romantic love at all, just sexual attraction VS friendship. (Which is probably why they define themselves so deeply by their identity as heterosexual men, too.) Not from lacking the ability to feel romantic attraction, but from not seeing their partners as human enough to get that passionate to begin with. It's nuts. You can hear it in the way they talk about girls. A partner to them is the 1 girl they think is sexually attractive and stay at home wife material enough to motivate them to suppress their sexual attraction for other women and commit to just the one. Incredibly objectifying, takes all the magic out. One more note is that I think this makes guys (and the women stuck with them who know they aren't taken seriously) like this way more likely to cheat on their partners. Not that cheating is always logical, but a culture of defining relationships so much around sex means that if you get sexually attracted to anyone else while in a relationship there's not going to be enough of a deeper bond there to stop you from cheating for momentary thrill. Majority of the time, sex becomes a little more familiar (not bad, just familiar) the longer you spend with someone, but I don't think a deep connection with someone can ever stop feeling novel if it's authentic. Almost six years into my relationship and I still wake up feeling like I'm a teenager experiencing their first love.
Straight allosexuals should really hang out with aces and listen to them explain different types of attraction because not everything is just "sexual attraction." Many straight allosexuals don't like learning about queer relationships, so they also don't know that people experience relationships and attraction differently from them.
Love how Gabe insinuates he can't like latinas cuz he's only into "blondes"? Who's gonna tell him being latin is an ethnicity and there are most def natural blonde latinas out there
These guys need to understand that mansplaining isn't just a dad explaining rocket science to his daughter, it's a dad explaining rocket science to his rocket scientist daughter because he thinks he knows it better than her
6:40 I appreciate the toddler level logic of "Well I didn't intend that so it could never happen", just the idea that he could fuck up without actively intending to do so isn't even a concept this man has ever considered
"your homeboys change sometimes. the thoughts rearrange in their brains sometimes. too hard dealing with the pain sometimes but you gotta let go you cant save their lives" - Dr. Lyle Ugleman
he "can't have a platonic relationship with a woman"? why does he only want male friends? 🤔 he only wants to be around men all the time? 😳 bro that's kinda.....👀
Hearing straight people talk about how they don't think it's possible to be just friends with people of the gender they're attracted to is really eye-opening for why they treat gay men, lesbians, and bi/pansexual people with such high levels of fear and distrust.
I didn’t realize how prevalent this idea was until I started watching _90 Day Fiancé_ (a reality show). Many people on the show get territorial and insecure when they hear that their partner is maintaining platonic friendships during the new relationship. _Sometimes_ the distrust is justified. My mom actually agreed that it is appropriate for a person to set aside their opposite-sex friendships if they’re making a lifetime commitment to a romantic partner. I feel like true friends are way too rare to dispose of like that. After seeing so many negative reactions, I get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are _truly platonic_ are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…
I have had male platonic friends since I was a tomboy in grade school. I promise you, I never wanted to "schtup" any of those dudes. They were like my brothers. I am also happily married to a Viking built, former bouncer manly-man. He would laugh these guys right out the door. Misogyny is so gross.
@@crnkmnky “i get the idea that opposite-sex relationships which are truly platonic are less common outside of modern “western” cultures…” as a person living in asia, yep. i can’t tell you the amount of times i’ve seen in korean dramas where the male or female lead make a big deal out of the other person being friends with someone of the opposite sex, in fact, it’s always used as one of the biggest conflicts in the drama. worse yet, the plot always turns out that the friend indeed had a crush/romantically liked the lead, which just fuels this misconception even more. i stopped watching romantic dramas altogether because i feel like many of them just portray romance inaccurately. irl, i feel like this mindset might’ve partly affected me making friends with guys because growing up all my friends were females and even right now in my 20s, i have like 1 guy acquaintance, and no close guy friends at all. but i’m able to recognise that males and females can have platonic friendships. in fact, i had to be corrected on 2 separate occasions that some of my friends WERE in a relationship, even though to me they looked like they were just close friends, but they dubbed me as just oblivious. and again, it doesn’t help with improving my perception of this area lol. (yeah i have some strange issues with men and romance)
You know when someone is just a bigot, it's easier to accept. What really grinds my gears are people like this who insist they are doing the morally righteous thing, and use that moral compass to essentially exclusively do and say horrible shit.
@@DeathnoteBB There is only one true God it's not even a religion it's a relationship with the creator of the universe and you. I get what your saying by shoving while other believers don't do what we do but we do do it for a reason, this is your evidence that it's the best for people on earth cause He's the solution for us, even us aren't perfect nobody is but God , devil is real God , Jesus and the holy spirit is real. It's not fiction or nonsense it's the truth. But it's still not showing.
It's such a common thing, but it's so jarring to hear them reduce pretty much everything to tokens. "I like blondes and Latinas" makes it sound like he's listing his favorite color or a 1st grader saying his favorite food on the first day of school
@@jsmooooov yeah but like saying “blond and latina women/girls/ladies” instead of just “blonds and latinas” sounds way better bc it indicates that the guy recognizes women beyond just being bodies/objects
Fr, I like to pretend that these kinda people don’t exist/aren’t common for my own sanity but damn.. when you come across shit like this? It’s genuinely so depressing, and scary.
@@Cameracat89 it is bad because they clearly don’t respect women and create a straw man when insulting feminism to where I genuinely wonder if they’ve ever spoken to a feminist in their lives. It’s not ok. Because women deserve to have respectful men in their lives who won’t treat them like potential property.
The way they blamed theoretical women for why they can’t be friends with women is,,, something. Like their whole argument for why they can’t be just friends with women was because of their imaginary future girlfriend/wife
I don’t think your definition of friend and their definition of platonic friendship are the same, so I think you’re jousting at windmills here. I’m a Christian male and fan of Titus/MANSPLAIN guys and I agree with them 100% on this subject. I have female friends but no deep emotional connection with them and I couldn’t really see myself wanting to hang out with any of them 1on1. I don’t think I’d even describe myself as having a deep emotional connection with my male friends tbh. I think these guys are reserved with their emotions and that’s why the deep emotional connection thing is a big deal. I’m the same way, I have emotional connections with family members and my wife only really.
@@malsake3739 I um hate to be the bearer of bad news but friendship is platonic until they get romantically involved…. Like that’s of the meaning of platonic. So whatever you’re saying here makes absolutely no sense
The way white women will say this about Christians considering women in Christian countries have equal rights. While women in other countries do not but white women will never say anything about Islam or Hindu the same as Christians
it is physically painful to see these guys all agree that "same sex affection is not the same as same sex attraction," yet not be able to come to that same realization when it comes to opposite gender relationships. affection and emotional intimacy do not equal a romantic/sexual relationship. it's just incredible how they got SO CLOSE yet are still so far away 🙃
Someone should edit the whole podcast and just show them saying something good (or at least something that makes sense) and just follow it up with them contradicting themselves
@@JustLikeMagic101 an edit like that but every time they like put the pieces together and start getting there, there’s a meter building up that just empties when they go off track lmfao
Their podcast is the perfect example of group think cus they all reinforce each other rather than challenging one another to keep thinking about what they believe…
While all these men are insufferable, there’s something about Gabe that really grinds my gears, shears my sheep, peeves me off if you will. So, from women everywhere, Gabe please try the stop talking challenge 💜💜🙏🏽
that one guy being like "I don't think platonic relationships are important" you just know he's the type of guy who treats his girlfriends like they're his partner, mother, and therapist all in one. We need to tell men it's okay for them to be vulnerable in platonic friendships with each other and with women too!
Them saying a man and woman shouldn't be friends because you can gain anything from a woman is so sad, because like... Friendship isn't about what you can gain from a relationship. That's such a sad way to look at relationships of any type.
but like.. I’m bisexual. I’ve had deep, loving, romantic relationships with people of all genders. so what am i supposed to do, not have friends? these people need to educate themselves lmao
In the eyes of these men, the world basically revolves around them. I doubt they even know the definition of intersectionality. I guess bi/pan people just explode in their world ig
This seems like the most forced "Christian podcast" ever. None of the topics are even close to being Christian related. These are dudes just shooting the crap and calling is a religious podcast 🤦🏿♂️
@@austinm8334 No it's not it seems like it to people but we aren't I don't want to hate people, we live by the bible (Basic instructions before leaving earth) Adam and Eve were there in the beginning in the bible it says a pig doesn't go for a donkey and a horse doesn't go for a Giraffe (something similar) That how that fits in . Were not homophobic.
Having grown up in the church with this bizarre segregation between genders, I can't even. I can't even begin to try and argue with it because of how intrinsically and inherently wrong their ideology is. So thank your doing it for me, Nick.
I had a boyfriend who got really upset any time I didn't wait for him to open the door for me...so I would argue there is a way to open a door for a woman ...um... sexistly... however, it's not just the act itself... I found his way very condescending, which is ironic since holding door for someone is supposed to be the show of respect... In the day to day life, if I get to a door and there is someone I know behind me, or someone older, I'll hold the door for them. When is the situation in reverse, I am ok with someone holding the door for me... what I am not ok with, is the guy running and basically showing me aside in order to get to the door first, pouting if he doesn't accomplish this, and then complaining that he can't even open the door for his girlfriend, because "everything is sexist now"... Like...get a grip...
What I'm getting from their stance on male/female friendships is that they think women are too stupid to understand platonic vs romantic feelings. Meanwhile, they have the critical thinking skills of a bunch of seventh-grade boys. It's embarrassing.
They went too far with that. To a certain degree I understand trying to make your partner comfortable, for example I personally wouldn’t be alone with another girl, I would have someone else with me. To each their own, set up boundaries in a relationship, it doesn’t have to be black and white.
@@tyleroberg9986 it is true that it’s all about what you feel comfortable with, but the issue is they don’t say that at any point, if they feel they operate a certain way, that must be the only way to do it. I would have 0 issue if my partner who is a man was to spend time with a woman 1 on 1. If I wasn’t okay with that, I would start to question why I don’t trust my partner to be faithful to me.
"there are no examples of male/male friendships/affection in television" my guy had to melt his brain so hard to say that that he just forgot the entirety of every single lord of the rings movie
My ex boyfriend was skeptical about same sex friendships (while claiming that a woman was his best friend lmaooo) and yes, that's definitely a red flag. He was a POS who objectified women. It made me really uncomfy whenever I mentioned talking to a man and he'd tell me "he just wants to sleep with you, that's what guys are like" aight bro way to tell on yourself for not being able to view women as equals.
right??? if they feel like friendship with women doesn't exist, it's because something is clearly wrong with the way they treat women. but of course none of them is self aware enough to realize this 💀
This video made me so appreciative of almost every guy friend I've ever had (Of course there're going to be a few exceptions). It was just so natural for us to be friends. Wtf I knew there was a lot of men out there who complained about women wanting only friendship. But I had no idea that there were men who didn't think male and female friendships even existed
It's super annoying when men think mansplaining is just "condescending talk-down to women." It's not just being condescending--that's something that a lot of people do regardless of gender. Mansplaining specifically describes a TREND of men assuming that women (even when those women are coworkers, professionals, superiors, or experts) know less than they do. It's not something that really happens in day to day life. It's really something that started becoming more obvious as women entered the workforce and any male-dominated spaces. A convenient forgetfulness that women had to accrue the same knowledge and experience to get in the same room as men. Of course some people exaggerate and use the term when some guy explains anything. Usually it's just that the guy is annoying or likes the sound of his own voice. The term is therefore misued. That doesn't change that it describes a real phenomenon. The men who trash it do not bother to do any ACTUAL research on what the term describes. They watch some right-wing youtube video on it and call it day.
I was a correctional officer, a feeeemale one. A lot of staff got lunch from the store near my prison, the male security guard (I was a guard prior to the prison job too) would constantly try and court female officers, myself included, with his *superior* security knowledge. I just cut him off during rants with "yeah, I know" until he got the message. It took ages for him to get the message.
it's actually true, that opening up about your emotions to someone of the opposite sex makes you date. me and my male best friend talked about our individual traumas and the next day we woke up with wedding rings and even an official paper. be careful who you open up to
Oh shit, my best friend of nearly 5 years is a man and I'm a woman... We've shared all sorts of emotional stuff with each other (including him telling me about his crushes). Damn, guess we're dating.
Just bc that happened for your doesn’t necessarily reflect how true that it is. Ive been best friends with someone of the opposite sex for years and we often are in a place of emotional vulnerability with each other, doesn’t ever end up in any other feeling apart from plutonic. Idk if that was satire tho lmao
As a Christian this is not only embarrassing but this was so hard to watch that I couldn't finish this video. Good on ya for sitting through their podcast 😭
as a guy i can't recall ever immediately falling in love with any woman who interacts with me in a platonic way but since these men seem to know so much about opposite gender friendships i guess i must be wrong!
As a girl with many lesbians and straight males as friends, guess I have been wrong my whole life and these people who have capacity to be attracted to my gender MUST be attracted to me and want more right? Guess I should break every friendship I have and marry a dude who thinks only thing I am good is romance and sex! :)
yeah like i'm a dude and half of my friends are girls not fucking once i've had a crush on them just because they give me respect and treat me like another human being? damn these guys' life must be so sad
Man, I thought my boyfriend was secure in his masculinity because he wouldn’t think twice about having to wear a dress and couldn’t care less about someone thinking he was gay because of how close he was with a friend. But all along it was really these guys who are truly secure. Update: he’s my fiancé now 🥰
the thing that really hit home was the stuff about girls and guys not being able to be just friends. From kindergarten through my sophomore year in high school my best friend was a guy (I'm a girl). People constantly would do the little "come on, neither of you have feelings for the other one?" wink wink. We both were open and emotional with each other but also didn't have any romantic feelings there. Men and women can be friends without one person wanting "more". Men and women can be friends.
That shit drives me crazy. So many people think romantic relationships are the be all end all, and its like no actually we can value and care about eachother platonically too! Not everything has to be romantic!!! So many people are emotionally immature and can't wrap their heads around that, it's kinda sad tbh
This is true honestly- in middle school, me and an old friend of mine were constantly being asked when we'd get into a relationship with one another and it was really uncomfortable for me as well him as he was just a brother to me and nothing more-
Right! I feel it's unhealthy... I'm not sure how exactly. But maybe on a emotional level, where others can't see other bonds /types of love. It's like it's being blocked, since romantic love is always place don a higher pedestal. As if two people from the opposite gender, can't have/learn to have a platonic love for their friends. The unhealthy aspect is that they- I'll go through a men's view ( society wise) can't see woman as nothing other then a romantic partner or sexual being, unless it's their family etc. Which then could change a view of a good bonds cause they can't go into a " Friendship" That isn't really a friendship in society. Withoutout thinking " I need to try to make her my girlfriend " Or to try to sleep with her + pressure for people wanting them together cause " They can't be JUST friends ". because it's like men's nature in the views of society + overall society view. I hope that makes sense, I'm still trying to figure this theory out. I know it isn't all men, for someone truly can just have friendships and see it as just that. Just using them as an example.
