Breaking Free: The Reasons and Revelations behind Our Departure from Jehovah's Witnesses 

Thank you for having us on your show. We really appreciate your time and honoring our babies memory at the end.

I knew a sister who was an elders wife and also worked for a funeral company. She told me that a lot of people leave the witnesses after a death in the family due to lack of support or criticism for grieving for too long.

If I knew now what I didn't know then...I would've never gotten baptized.

Everything said about grieving, death, and getting comfort in this video is so true. Even with JW funerals, after they read the eulogy, that whole memorial talk normally has nothing to do with the life of the actual person who passed.

There is no greater loss then that of a child. My heart goes out to you...

Loss of a child? Just read your bible more, go out in service and sign up to pioneer. Fixes all problems

The loss of a child in the Womb can be VERY painful.I pray for this couple that GOD will comfort and heal then of their pain in JESUS Name AMEN And AMEN 🙏❤️🙏

I remember my great grandmother saying to my grandmother, "why are you crying, she'll be back", at my great aunts funeral back in 1988. I look back now and realize how heartless that statement is.

That couple has been through alot! I wish them the best..

Boy that hits home. Why you crying? You can have kids in the new system! Wow, thanks, that just makes it all better. I love how he came to understand GRACE, that is awesome. I woke up for almost the same reason. My ex wife who at that time had cancer at 28 years old, just after having our second daughter. I had a new baby, my wife was sick to death, I had to take on everything and lost my job. One day in the parking lot I asked an elder if he could help me with some gas money and he said, When is this going to stop? Maaan, he just went right for the kill. I was destroyed. My whole world was in shambles and to this elder my problems were just like a superficial bother. I never went back to the KH.

JT and Lady Cee my favorite couple always telling the real truth. Keep doing the great videos

My heart goes out to this couple . The organization is in no way qualified or equipped to counsel or advise people in these matters. Good on them for seeking that help elsewhere!

So many of these stories, the part of the lack of love and how fast you're so called FRIENDS can turn against you is unreal.

I Remember being told that as a JW we don't seek outside professionals( Therapist) for help because their advice would be "too worldly" and not of Jehovah's guides.....Yet being that the elders were not qualified and had no background in counseling, they actually did more damage than good.

So glad to see Phil and his beautiful wife Shylo for the first time. You are strong and deserves to be loved without any condition. ❣

Lovely couple - so happy when I hear of couples coming out together. My hubby is still in - it is so hard. But at least I saved my kids from getting baptised in the org.

What a wonderful testimony! It's amazing that no matter how long you've been away from the organization, you can still understand and empathize with what people went through. It broke my heart to hear what they dealt with and had no support, which should have been pretty basic as a human being. I remember how long it took me to trust anyone from the "world', but once I did I was overwhelmed with what I found! Thank you guys for all you do, you are truly saving lives and providing support and a common ground for so many of us. Lady C, so many times you say things and it just strikes a nerve that few people can understand! Blessings to you all!

What woke me up was I had two Jehovahs witnesses Bible,a old black one and the new silver bible. I researched exactly what was being changed.

She needed empathy and compassion. The very embodiment of a true follower of Christ. Jesus had compassion on the people.

I completely resonated with this, many things said sounds like the same experience I went through after losing my 15 yr old son to suicide 8 months ago. I was already waking up but the actions of many confirmed things I was already doubting. Also like you said, when we experience loss we need comfort NOW! Many tried to offer comfort by mentioning the paradise as though they’re witnessing to me- I already know the hope, I don’t need witnessed to & it doesn’t help you deal with the grief, it offers a band-aid if you ‘just hang in there’, it’s ‘it’s just around the corner’ but it’s not enough RIGHT NOW. There have also been rumors about me as well & some who claimed to want to come when my son died were just being nosy & trying to get close to me so they could add to what they were already saying about me. I’ve had to seek out other sources to learn to deal with things that I need to, I still have 2 other adult children that need me to set an example- a positive one. My sympathies go out to you, very sorry for your losses & the insensitive comments you received. I heard many of those myself right after I lost him.

Awesome 👏 interview. I can’t wait till I see someone from my old congregation woken up, I’ll be like 👀😛🤗.🤣

Our Loving Heavenly FATHER desires Relationship ❤️❤️❤️NOT religion.. Take time to grieve and heal,read HIS word and allow HOLY SPIRIT to minister to your heart 🙏❤️🌈🕎🎁🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🎁🌈🕎

Thanks a million for what you guys do.

Hi guys hope you are well. In 1996 in Tasmania where I was residing at the time, Martin Bryant took automatic weapons to a popular Tasmanian tourist spot and murdered 35 people and wounded 23 others. Some of the victims were little children. It shocked our Tasmanian community. Next meeting after the event, no prayers were offered for the victims, the survivors, the families of victims and survivors, police, ambulance services, and 1st responders who would have walked into The Broad Arrow Cafe and seen 20 dead people in that single location, ripped apart by automatic gunfire. After the meeting I gathered the elders together and ripped into them for their lack of compassion for the dead and injured and our hurting Tasmanian community. I also said that a lot of brothers and sisters were hurting as well. They were most indignant. They said that there was no need to encourage the congregation or pray for the community because we don’t grieve like the world does and our brethren in the congregation considered such atrocities as part of the sign of the last days. This organisation tears the heart out of people and replaces it with stones. 3 years later I was done. There is so much genuine love in any ordinary community of people, and I would choose to be associated with group of “ worldly people” any day than be in the dead community of JW’s. My heart goes out to all witnesses trapped in the lie of “ Jehovahs Loving Organisation “.

OMG, sounds like my story, my first 3 pregnancy’s ended up in miscarriage, I was as not baptized but was studying with an elders wife, By the 3rd miscarriage she told me that I needed to stop getting pregnant because it was like I was committing abortion. My mouth just dropped I felt so bad and guilty. Unfortunately I continued studying and eventually got baptized. If I just new what I know now 😡 BTW: I have two wonderful children God blessed me with 💕

Thank JT and lady Cee. Great video. Greetings from Liberia West Africa. I Cal them kingdom HELL of Jehovah's wickedness organization. Am out with all my children. They are in the university now..

Lovely couple. I'm so sorry for their losses and so glad they found support.

Wonderful interview! Amazing that you knew each other from your previous congregation. There is no support in the JW community; people are unsympathetic. When I had a miscarriage, only one sister said she was sorry for our loss. One sister said it's Adam and Eve's fault 😒. Glad they are free from unsupportive unloving organizations. Thank you for sharing your story.

Awesome interview

Love to you both, I'm so sorry for your pain. God bless you💜

My heart goes out to both of you. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you JT and lady Cee for your continued activism.

Thank you for sharing your story. I am so glad you were able to get support. How sad that you couldn't get support in the so called truth. God is a God of comfort and the Bible says Roman's 12:13 to grieve with those who are grieving. How sad that food was brought and comfort given by so called worldly people but not from those of "the truth" Each video I awaken more and more. I realized after literally being on my deathbed and having so little strength that opening a bathroom door took all my strength. I came out of the hospital and drove myself to an appointment by myself. I had to bend down to get a ticket for parking and did not have the strength to get up. I shouted to a passersby, a man, to please help me. He did and with disgusted look said "you should not be out here on your own. Someone could have robbed you or worse" and he walked away. My JW roommate was disgusted because I was tired and she told me off because she had to wake me up for the meetings. I never missed. I was going out in field service with her and she was a pioneer. She gave me this whole speech about how I talked about being a pioneer but my actions were lazy and I was I grown woman and she shouldn't have to wake me up. I left and drove 12 hrs home to Ontario from Atlanta back home to my family. My mother encouraged me to rest and get back to health. I felt guilty for being tired. This organization is toxic. Period. It is dangerous as JT said. So glad I am out.

The other side of the people who are grieving are the people who are not allowed to show them love and understanding. If you're seen hugging and giving emotional support to anyone (for any reason) after a period of time. The elders will pull you over and ask you to stop. You both can be labeled as spiritually weak for not moving past the initial grieving process in what the elders would consider a timely manner.

Oh Phil and Shiloh, so much to say... beautiful, courageous, strong people... thank you for your vulnerability, validating this kind of pain and finding real support... you are both an inspiration and an example... when the JW 'system' isn't equipped to support (which is the norm), they systematically blame the victim for needing 'too much'. JT/LC this is such a significant interview - thank you!

Wow! I saw a few of Philshi Delishi’s xjw videos before and didn’t realize you all were in the same Michigan Congo! That’s an awesome feeling to see fellow ex-congregants from your own past book studies awakened! What a story! Phil & Shiloh have been through the JW ringer & rollercoaster! Excellent interview! Phil baptized closer to my age - 21 for him, 22 for me. Blessings from the other side of Lake Michigan in central Wisconsin!

Thanks for this great interview! My condolences to Phil and Shiloh on the loss of their babies. That is so heartbreaking!

My heart breaks for you guys!! 💔

Similar thing happened to us. We had a still born child in 1984, a son, his name was Michael. They found no heartbeat at full term, the baby was due in 2 weeks. Not one of the Jehovah's Witnesses came to the funeral. None of our JW family, none of our JW friends, no one!!! We were very very hurt on top of the grief, that no one seemed to care and we got no support. The excuse that was given us- there is no point as the baby was not born alive ,so Jehovah does not recognize the child, the child will not get a resurrection. Because there is no resurrection for Michael there was no point in coming to the funeral. We were left to deal with it and grieve on our own. A few years later i think an awake magazine came out that did a back flip on this teaching, recognizing the unborn child. Too late, the damage was done to everyone in the past who had suffered this, I was so angry for years, eventually we realized everything they taught was damaging false teachings from men. The anger along with other things that happened, pushed me to research the organisations false teachings and look on the internet, and we woke up.

JT and Lady Cee…that was so wonderful of you to give remembrance to Phil and Shiloh’s babies. Very thoughtful and loving♥️

8:40 full circle...🧡

My condolences to this couple. I cannot imagine how difficult losing their babies has been and continues. They put on a brave face yet I can see the pain is there. JT was correct when he said that the way you grieve for lost loved ones is a reflection on your love for 'god' . And that's it in a nut shell. Being a JW you are not allowed to have any other emotion except happy. You are taught to shove it down.. go preach, go pray.. study.. don't address the issue, don't process the emotion , pretend you are fine, pretend you are happy , because the privilege of being in " gods organization' is a cure all to everything. Unfortunately what this teaching does, is it conditions a person to disconnect from traumatic experiences. It causes multiple mental health issues including CPTSD & PTSD. Recently my mom's brother passed away. My mom is now the only surviving person from her immediate family. When I spoke to her, she was in tears but trying her best to hold them back.. she said that she didn't know how she was going to sleep, that she had this uneasiness. She was sad that she wasn't there with him when he died. And if she had known that she would have been there with him. ( He's non JW and my mom allowed the Religion to keep relatives at a distance) She said that she will just have to do her best to block it out, meaning block out her feelings. & A few months back a cousin of my mom passed away.. I was told my mom has said that she feels as if she has no family left. That she is all alone. Mind you my mom has 7 kids and several grandchildren and great grands.. but.. that Religion has separated our family . We have all gone in different directions and do not remain in contact with eachother for the most part. This organization needs to be shut down for good. They have caused damage to everyone they have touched in one way or another.

This was a touching video and reminded me of a big red flag that I missed in my bible study. I wasn’t going to the hall yet but I had a miscarriage and the response by the two sisters was nothing but God will sort it out. Was too distressed to pick up on it. Ironically about a year later the sister had a horrible miscarriage which I though not baptised supported her through and looking back beside her husband I don’t think anyone else gave her any emotional support either. Miscarriage is a terrible experience, in fact I point to that now as one of the things that made me delusional enough to join the witnesses! Glad to see the subject addressed and I wish this couple and their daughter all the best! On a separate note loved that interview of JT and Lady Cee on Mormon stories you tube channel! It was so good the host had to bring you two back for a part two! Don’t be modest you should leave the link in your next video, thoroughly enjoyed it!

Love you all.

Thank you Phil and Shiloh for sharing your story. I'm so sorry for your loss.

It is always a treat to see you guys

Thank JT and Lady Cee love your channel.

Wow.. Talk about rubbing salt in a wound. Sorry you went through that. Wish you two the best.

@Philshi Delisi thanks for your courage in sharing your story. Your time & efforts are very much appreciated. No doubt others who are on the same journey as the both of you will find comfort in knowing that they're not alone. Sending supportive hugs to you as you process your grief during this challenging time.

I hope you feel more healed both of you.lots love from.the u.k

Very Interesting interview and I have followed Phil's channel for a couple of years now. As an MS back in the late 80's I lost my father and I really noticed the cold shoulder attitude of the Elder Body at the time and it wasn't until after I left that I recognized the twisted attitude that is put forward about grieving the loss of a loved one. And as JT pointed out it was a barometer of my faith being scrutinized.

I agree with JT''s point about pioneers. They put up this show about how happy they are and yet at the sae time the same pioneer will panic if its nearing month end and they haven't reached their quota.

When I was a MS a guy came in on a Thursday night just got out of jail. We didn’t know what to do do we called the Salvation Army gave him 20.00 and took him to the bus stop. It was always ironic to me we sent him to Christendom.

Philshi delishi ! Love his videos!

Is that Phil delish? I'm sub to his channel..this is going to be good

Yaaaaay Phil! So happy for you!

This came up on my feed today. I know it was a year ago. But I am so glad I got to meet Phil and Shiloh. These two are both wonderful, thoughtful human beings. It's heartbreaking enough what they went through. And to imagine how they were treated by "the friends" is also heatbreaking! I hope and wish they are doing well now, being able to grieve freely and openly for the loss of their children, for there are no longer people in their lives who put a time limit on grieving. Love to them!

what a wonderful family a big hug to them

When you're in the lowest place in Life (emotional, mentally, depressed) you'd hope the WT ORG ( Cult) would be there to support ( Love) ... instead it's thrown back as you need to do more ...how can you the Tank is Empty !!! ... Jesus Christ said my Load is Light... Light can have Two meanings... 1) its not a burden...2) you open your eyes to the Real Truth...TY for another Encouraging Video 👏👍😊

Such a relief!

Phil I see your joy and surprising wake-up of your wife...happy for you.

This interview really resonated with me. I’m waking up currently and can completely relate to being judged by how many meetings and how much service you’re able to make. I started becoming aware of the “culture” after pioneering and then moving congs and having my first baby. We struggled as many new parents do and were judged immediately and unsupported just for that. I then started suffering with PND and then chronic insomnia and health issues that were basically related to total burn out. I was very sick and exhausted for a couple of years and then my dad was diagnosed with terminal cancer. I had a miscarriage and then lost my dad after he fought for 15 months. Then the agonising grieving process. That entire 5 years period we were very judged, soft shunned and almost completely unsupported. 2 meals provided throughout that entire time and no other practical support. When I opened up to an elders wife I was told that I needed to handle my stress better. My husband woke up around halfway though this time and I just kept trying my best with the little I could do and thinking if only I could do better or we could do better it would be ok. Like it was all our own fault. That’s how they make you feel. So on top of all the stress and grief and sickness you also feel like you’re failing Jehovah because you can’t keep up with everything you’re meant to do. Because if you were relying on him couldn’t/wouldn’t he make it possible? Very conditional love and friendship, even when you’ve done nothing wrong. It’s like everyone is primed and ready to throw you in the trash. I’m waking up now, the culture is what began it all and the doubts growing and doctrinal issues that didn’t make sense. I’m so glad I don’t have to raise my daughter in this or our next baby who is due to be born soon. I’m so so sorry for the loss of your beautiful babies and the lack of love and support you experienced. Thank you for sharing your story and thank you JT and Lady C for sharing stories like these. They help you to realise you’re not alone or imaging what you experienced. They help you to realise it’s not you and it’s not that Jehovah is unhappy with you. It’s just a man made organisation with a very sad and destructive culture that starts at the top and permeates it’s way all the way through. The JW organisation is like highly dysfunctional emotionally and mentally abusive family. I come from a a family just like this! So I wonder if this is why it took me so long. Now it’s time to rebuild. Thanks for this story and all the stories.

When you start to experience the insensitivity of the 'friends' in the congregation, it rocks your world and wakes you up. Many have started waking up after being mistreated in some way. A sister (now deceased) in her 80's said how her pioneer partner said, "I can't work with you anymore out in service." Why, she said. "Because you talk about your children when were out in service and it hurts me. We were told (by Rutherford) not to have children and wait for the new system to have perfect children. You had children and I never had any and it hurts me every time you talk about them." The point here is that there are people who put off having children in order to 'do more for Jehovah' (serve Watchtower) who are also grieving for the rest of their lives.

Thank you for sharing your story. I’m sorry for the loss of your family.

What I don't get is this: why do the fellow JWs not find comforting words in their own theology? They could say something like that the babies remain in Jehovah's memory and that they will be restored at the rescurrection. That would not go counter to Watchtower doctrine, would it? Where does this hard-heartedness and rejection of grief come from?

I am so glad that they found the compassionate friends group. I lost a child and that group really helped me. I cant imagine how horrible it would be to have to answer to the JW's when grieving

My heart goes out to this beautiful family. An organisation that professes love and having the truth, yet not showing love , compassion and comfort when people need it most is truly heartbreaking 💔I hope people keep on waking up ❣️

I am not or never was an elder in the JWs organization, but I was a ministerial servant until 2004-05. 30:17 I disassociated myself, though. That’s the same exact thing that happened to me back in 2008-09. I grew up a witness… my mother was baptized in 1985… so I was fairly versed in the New World Translation. I got baptized in 1999 and was disfellowshipped in 2004-05… reinstated in 2006, my father passed at the end of the summer of 06 and the recession hit Chicago pretty hard. Mind you, I just was married in 03 and at that time in 06, I have 3 young children. 08 comes around, and I started talking to Army recruiters just to check out the pay and benefits and possibly joining… and my mistake was mentioning it to one of my so-called close pioneer buddies… he tells the elders that I’m leaving for the Army and one night I had to work late, they read me off without telling me or warning my wife with 3 children that I was no longer considered as a Jehovahs Witness…. When my wife came home crying and told me what was done, I called a meeting with the elders and I officially denounced myself and walked out of the back room…. Met with one of the Army recruiters, and I am officially retired as a Staff Sgt. in the US Army. Great Video, @ExJWCriticalThinker Family! Peace Beyond to You Both! Take Care!

I'm so sorry for your losses. I'm thankful you've reached out and are getting help!! OUR LORD has many ways of using others hands to help us thru dark grieving days in our lives!!!

I loved the whole interview, it came to me in an angle I did not expect.

Great interview

Thanks for sharing your story

God's making free many of us by negative things, in my case the disfellowshipping was the ideal condition to talk to me and move me to the real freedom from inside out.

I remember the JW'S telling me I'm straddling the fence cause I couldn't commit fully to their religion... because I was doing everything they wanted except getting baptized...i always felt like I wasnt prepared but now I know that not doing it was for the best and there was a reason why I couldn't...it would of been the wrong decision. GOD IS GOOD!!

great colaboration you re both great

Speechless but not surprised because this kind of behaviour is not uncommon in these groups like this one. One is expected to just move on and let go of whatever experiences one encounters. The trauma of loss is devastating and without ongoing support through trained counseling and continued support can cause terrible and deep seated damage and unbalance to the personality and mind of persons. We are not robots! The talks to move forward through faith without much regard to the current emotional damage caused by the incident(s) is why many harbour and emit such a mean spirit in these religions. The friends become judgemental following the lead of the elders servants and puoneers. Every one just wants to move forward trusting in the promises taught in the Hall and by the governing body. There are just no excuses allowed and everything one feels is relegated to be cured in the new order. Well how are you going to get there ( so called new order) when your grief is used against you as a lack of faith. I was absolutely devastated and lost all care or concern about life. I wanted to just not wake up. It was like they were glad to see us suffer. Unfair misplaced guilt and grief is just too much of a burden to bear. I am thrilled that people are waking up to such unkind thoughtless and unsympathetic treatment and find the courage to leave. I have never regretted getting into therapy and a recovery group that woke me up. I wrote my letter and began to put a life together with the support of so called worldly people that I celebrate stories like this one. Stay centered and keep holding on to each other. Ty for caring enough to share! No regrets after many years!

Thanks for this video! Phil and Shiloh I am so sorry for your losses. I am subscribed to Phil’s RU-vid channel and I enjoy the videos he does while driving up and down Gratiot Avenue. You have a great personality and I love your humor.

I've always been a regular viewer of your channel for years, this one is the most emotional and a deeply moving one. It's also an upsetting one about the cult I wasted almost half a lifetime before I woke up! My heart 💖 is with the couple. My great thanks to you Lady Cee & JT for this video.

I am so sorry for your losses, I will keep you and Bill in my prayers. My daughter had an atopic pregnancy back in 2006, she took the loss very hard but I am glad that I was able to help her through her grieving period. She still mentions her evert once in awhile, I am still here to help her. She does suffer from severe PTSD and some other mental health issues but we know that the Lord heals the brokenhearted. God bless you all.

I am still grieving over my pet cannot even imagine what you had and have gone through.

Thanks JT and Lady C for doing this interview. I really like this couple. I'm so glad at least one of their children got through and is doing well. Sometimes there are just no easy answers.

Many pioneers seemed depressed and off centered

This couple needed so much love and comforted from the beginning. Wish I had been in their cong because the loss must have been devastating . Give them my love please xxx

I lost my child who was born with medical issues. At first, there was a lot of support - but it's kind of like a job or school thing. You get a set amount of time to grieve - like 2 weeks. I was also told repeatedly that it was for the best, my child would be perfect in the resurrection and I was being too focused on the loss and not enough on the Kingdom. I could not go to meetings right after the death because of severe panic attacks from the PTSD of seeing my my child, part of my own heart, in a casket. We got a few shepherding calls where they basically challenged if we still believed. it was insane. INSANE. So no support after the funeral talk; just being told I'm better off not having a child who is sick and I should be grateful my child would come back perfect - BUT I would not get to see my child if I didn't start going to meetings etc. To me my child was NEVER a burden and to me my child was perfect. I had doubts before and this drove me over the edge. I also become acquainted quickly with the Compassionate friends. I have been to many of their meetings and even the yearly "convention" that they have - I was a featured speaker at one of them. I was aware of the value of support groups during my son's life because no one around us understood our life and we were constantly being looked at as "weak" because we weren't at meetings because we were at the hospital with our child for yet another surgery or some acute serious illness. So I had a lot of people I knew in the "world" and had a lot of support during my child's life - I became an advocate and also was able to help others. I also had many miscarriages and I stopped telling anyone when I got pregnant, including my family because there was ZERO support for that. We waited until it was obvious. If we lost the pregnancy no one knew. We were able to have other children and that was also used against us in the "you have other children". People in the "world" even would say stupid things but it was so much more hurtful coming from people I thought should understand and be more loving. I love the Compassionate Friends because they don't "compare" loss. Loss of a child is something no one should have to endure. It's the worst thing a parent can have happen. And the pain never goes away, ever. I think the points made on this video were great! Another thing no one understands, especially "elders" who are men and not trained in any type of helpful counseling - they're thinking so you had a miscarriage, no big deal. Yeah it is a big deal Having your uterus scraped out or having to actually deliver a stillborn is very difficult physically. That never ever gets addressed. It's just us weak, emotional women not being able to "move on". These types of medical procedures take a toll on our bodies too. SHAME on an organization that brags about love. What a joke.

Love to Phil and Shiloh. God Bless

Did you all catch that "i was already 17,18 by that time" and she was talking about meeting him and the fact that he was new and she's grown up with the guys in her congregation. That's truly an eye opener for how quickly you're expected to find a husband and it has to be a brother in the kh. It's sick. You don't just go date, you meet somebody and if the two of you show any interest in each other your families push you along and before you know it you're married. It is honestly a destructive way of life, though there are some, just like in those religions and cultures where arranged marriage exists, instances where the couples end up loving each other for many years and doing great. Sadly, the majority are only happy on the surface, the marriages are unhappy at best and can become unbearable but by then you can't just get out of that especially if you are the wife. It's truly sad.

Loved you both on Mormon Stories!

The young man and his mom are very well spoken and I totally understand what they went thru. I will have to finish the rest of the video later! Very interesting experience

I remember a friend of mine lost her baby and I was searching on watchtower library for days trying to find something about the resurrection of unborn babies so that I could encourage her when I could not I went to a sister about it who told me Jehovah doesn’t reveal everything to us so we don’t know but we will eventually it’s the same when I used to question why married couples couldn’t enjoy oral sex I saw no answers for this but was told as I grow spiritually I’ll understand more

Insightful

I pray for this lovely couple I am glad they are getting all the love and support they need.May God help little Isabella to grow healthy.

One of the sister at the funeral said to me 「l don't like br.& sr. crying at KH funeral. Ｗhy cry? we have hope to see he/her at paradise. lts our faith now what counts if we will make it to paradise and meet um!」l was just stunned!

My heart goes out to Phil and Shiloh - you two had gone through so much with your losses, so pleased you have you little girl. God bless you both and your little girls and your little angels in heaven.

Had I been a JW now, what I've seen here would have been more than enough to make me walk away. EVERY parent has the right to grieve to the fullest extent.

Omg, I "know" Phil from his RU-vid channel. I'm so excited to watch this interview! 😊❤️

I was so scared of death when I was a JW but as my understanding has changed and I have read the Bible without watchtower. I am not so afraid as it makes more sense from a Bible standpoint that your babies are in heaven and not just left to dust. That being said I have followed your channel and felt so bad for all that you have had to go through. Shame on this organization for kicking you when you are down.

Thank you for your interview videos. Actually......thank you for ALL of your videos. I am still learning and still struggling but by the grace of God I am prevailing!!! 😂 Your ministry is awesome.

It is totally understandable to feel anger with God after such a major loss! I felt angry with Jehovah for a whole year after the loss of my mother, but so afraid to say a word, its a very lonely place to be when you can't openly grieve. The anger did leave in time, but that's how I knew it was just a stage of grieving....but no one in the JW Org would understand that since they are not educated! Its so encouraging to hear your story, I went through so many of the same emotions. I am happier than I have ever been, and mentally healthier - and the organization is so sick - my friends would tell me that is Satan making it easy for you to leave! Mental health is a key component to a happy life, no religion should take from your mental health.

Thank you for this story. It broke my heart and made me so happy for them at the same time. They are true survivors

When I hear what you all went through, its so similar and so It helps me because I don't feel so alone and know there is a pattern.

Love you guys SOOO much. Been a fan for years. Sending exjdub lub from Gloucester Va. We need a post Covid meet up!!