Criminal Lawyer Breaks Down The Apple River St*bbing Trial & Verdict 

This pack mentality starts way earlier and is never addressed, even in kindergarten. I am glad it's caught on camera more and more.

Yup absolutely. I’ve been in groups of friends when I was in high school and college and NEVER would have acted like this and neither would my friends and we played collegiate rugby so we weren’t a bunch of tiny little 120 pounds who just didn’t bully people cause we were small. We had respect for people. This is a pack of grown toddlers raised by other adult toddlers. These parents failed miserably. This entire case is so hard to watch because now this trash behavior is encouraged. “Hey look! We can get away acting like a bunch of wild animals and totally fine!”

I think this dude acted terribly, but this is one of those situation I don't feel sorry for the victim. "Fuck around and find out" is perfect fit for him.

Yep these total shit bags have done this before this aint the first time. They recorded this one this time and it fuck them too

@@lukycharms9970 They didn't act like animals. Animals are usually pretty nice, and just try to avoid problems whenever possible. They acted like a bunch of loud, drunk and douchey, humans. Edit: But if I had to compare them to a pack of animals, it would be a pack of hyenas. That's actually one animal that is somewhat similar in a way. The thing is when hyenas act like that it is because they are hunting to survive. None of them had any valid reason to act like that.

And they completely changed stories multiple times. I'll never live in a non stand your ground state.

No shit lol. If course they got scared when someone gets stabbed

@@26michaeluk Don’t forget the guy with the knife changed his story multiple times as well… he went from “I saw the fight, I didn’t know anyone got stabbed”, to “I took the knife from one of the kids”, to yeah that was my knife but this was in self defense”… you can’t call the kids liars without calling him a liar as well.

Really??? seeing someone stabbing multiple random people is a scary situation lmao But atleast according the Mr."i did it in self defense" he wasn't there 😂

you think he was justified for stabbing a teenage girl who was WALKING AWAY FROM HIM!? what is wrong with you!?!?

Camera boi weak weak weak .

Ofc “CONTENT FIRST” for Snapchat or TikTok 😂, in his head “oh shit this going viral”

I feel like he belongs in prison more than the defendant. if the defendant hadn't lied to the police I think there's no way that jurycould have convicted him. I feel bad for him. lying to the police was f**king stupid but he doesn't deserve to go to prison for defending himself. always keep your mouth shut. there's no situation that can't be made worse by calling or talking to the police

bobbing4snapples Wether miu blatantly lied or not he was the AGGRESSOR and he would have ABSOLUTELY been sent to prison for the MURDER and VIOLENT ASSAULT(S) he committed 🤡

​@@eriv4735he was the aggressor??? 🤡

exactly 10 drunk teenagers surrounding a drunk older man who is being verbally and physically attacked

Dude the old man approached them and attacked them. They repeatedly told him to go away and he keeps approaching and following them and attacking them. The full video is literally in RU-vid. No excuse to be this dense

@@DumbAsh00the first “attack” we have irrefutable proof of is them pushing him though, no? That’s what I saw…

Alcohol

@@mikecarol3485 did they surround him? Or did the boomer approach them, go into the center of the group, refuse to walk away, punch a girl, and then start stabbing people after he got pushed down and slapped. And instead of walking away when he has the chance (which he had several opportunities) he kept coming back to stab more. He is a piece of garbage and that is why he was found guilty

everyone has a suture kit with them on a river

Yep

Ya I noticed that when they were all ganging up on the guy they were all running their mouths but when the shit hit the fan they stood there and didn’t even help their own friends.

Yep the kids are the problem not the psycho who stabbed them

@@Boyso5407The Asian guy did at least . He seems the only one who has learned his lesson .

If they aren’t drunk and high teens, maybe.

@barrydehatchett8692, Yes, you have made an interesting comment. I'm 74 and I was recently visiting Thailand for a month and that's exactly what would have happened there. They would have helped me look for my phone, no question about it.

If only Miu told them he lost a phone and they would look for it too

He lied about looking for the phone. He chased them down after grabbing his knife bc he wanted a conflict. It’s why he is guilty. If you believe he told the truth there, it would be literally the only thing he didn’t lie about.

He assumed they took the cell phone which is what caused him to run into them and stop them and then not say a word. In another universe he asks non aggressively if they have or have seen the cell phone and goes about his day.

Agree

Yeah. Romania has a rough history as do most ex Soviet countries. Life and death are very real there. Not abstract.

Ok but... Is this relevant to anything about the case or are you just sharing fun facts from the internet?

@@robertpatter5509 I'm Russian and while I do agree that ex Soviet countries have a rough history, police in general is far far less intimidating in the ex-USSR space than in the US, and police brutality is uncommon (if we exclude edge cases of political persecution, which I don't think even happens in Romania). Regardless, this does not excuse his actions. While the kids' behavior was terrible, I fail to see how his life was so in danger that it required him stabbing people with a knife.

Here in America, the Police are still executing people.

Absolutely, you know they had this planned to go start trouble with some random person and then not only that but accuse him of horrendous things before surrounding him confusing and then assaulting him. Dude had so many things running through his mind

I watched the trial his lawyer did an awesome job and picked the teens apart. Even his closing statements were so logical. I think the verdict came down to a small town mentality. Christina Randall said they had a memorial for Isaac and over 500 people showed up and the town was small.

This guy was CLEARLY the aggressor, committed MURDER, and SEVERAL counts of ASSAULT..he was going to prison no matter who defended him 🤦‍♂

HaphRound He had the opportunity to leave the kids alone but decided to go get a knife and return and initiated contact with them by grabbing one of them out of his their raft..you clearly didn’t watch the trial 🤦‍♂

MareMarMarie The verdict came down to the FACTS and the FACT is Miu was CLEARLY the aggressor 🤡

YES BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN HAS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED - THEY PUSHED HIM DOWN AFTER AFTER AFTER HE PUNCHED A FEMALE!!!! DID THAT NOT DISTURB YOU OR ARE YOU THE TYPE THAT HITS FEMALES??????????????

One that tolerates white kids doing that. Dude looks ethnic? Obviously not American. He's a immigrant... If he is white he's eastern European and other Europeans don't really consider them white....

By the time there's hands on Miu's neck, he's already stabbed at least two people. Watch the uncensored video. He gets pushed into the water initially, slapped once by a kid, and then pushed from behind by yellow trunks. As yellow trunks tries pushing him again, he stabs him in the stomach. Everything after that, he's the armed aggressor. Miu seems to cut the girl immediately after he's up without her coming at him. Then someone pushes Miu by the neck, can't tell if he stabs that person or not. I'd say yellow trunks had it coming since he did initially push Miu toward the water as he was trying to get up. Doesn't seem like anything except that was justified to me.

One where you shouldn’t ran at a group of kids and start being physical with them while armed with a deadly weapon.

They kept attacking him so it's all self defense in my book. They all started a fucking mob for no reason. He had no obligation to even say he was looking for his phone they just decided he was weird and the guy with the phone literally caused everyone to freak out and attack him. Idc it's messed up to just put blame only on one person. They guy with the phone was laughing all the way through the video he loved it

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Yeah this stuff never happened before the internet, everyone just skipped around holding hands

@@danielnorth9902 not at all. These types of incidents used to happen before social media but kids these days are living in a different world. The fact the cameraman started saying this isn't real proves that. Society is on a decline because people these days are not held accountable for how they speak on the internet and by the time they face reality, it's too late. Not saying this was the case but it's highly likely. Add booze and weed to that and you have a cocktail for chaos. The real problem stems from a lack of guidance from the kids' parents. Old school men got no time for that shit.

@@lionel170 exactly the problem comes from a lack of guidance not whatever problem you have with message boards, the internet is allot bigger than people arguing on websites like Twitter, to contribute this much nonsense to “the internet” is just a cop out at best, grow up

@@danielnorth9902 I don't have a problem with message boards or social media. It's the accountability that's lacking. Those kids learned the hard way unfortunately.

That’s an understatement. Societal norms and morals are gone. It’ll only get worse from here

Not self defense. Those little shits might have had it coming, but given what I saw in the video, that was not self defense.

​@@Romanus-Roman's and greeks were saying the same thing 4000 years ago. Every generation gets old and Says the next generation is awful and will ruin civilization

It's been this way for thousands of years. We simply can't ever experience it all first hand. We like to say the world is going downhill, but it's really not. Do you think the ancient Romans had a culture full of tolerance and respect? Do you have any idea the kind of dehumanization and violence minorities face around the world, today and throughout history? Everything we do is bigger now, yes, but we are no different than the people of the past at our core. Were the same pople, only we have bigger and more powerful tots now. The fact that this concerns you so much really says something about the culture you live in. This level of disrespect and violence is quite literally child's play in many places around the world. Don't take the safety and peace you have for granted. You have no idea the things people have to face daily.

No. Miu walked up to them. Stopped them. Harassed them and wouldn’t leave. He didn’t even say “get back I have a knife” nothing. Just started stabbing people like a 115lb woman lol he was in the wrong.

That's not the lesson , Mormon

Yeah and the evidence is right here in the comment section.

Heard that 😂

Yes thank you. More people need to read this

@@azbacnikorange found the drunk

Right on!

That's what I was thinking, in fact they should be thanking their lucky stars he didn't.

I bet the survivors never get in anyone's face putting their hands on anyone ever again trying to hold them down in the water and punching them!

You kind of would expect people doing outdoor activities to have a knife though I mean it's an incredible tool and anyone who spends time in the woods or on the water knows

@@ticket2spaceyeah, I’m definitely shocked so many people wouldn’t expect most of the dudes out there to have knives.

Solid advice. Cops will twist your words around and straight up lie.

Yep stop self snitchin.

This was the worst case of self-snitching I have ever seen

You know, unless you’re guilty of murder or something. Unless we’re looking out for them too

Truth

He was looking for a phone, not a little girl. That was explained. Why would you push him and knock him around

i bet he did explain before video. he was explaining himself to the lady when the camera man made a false claim that he said he was looking for a little girl, which caused the mob to push his head underwater.

Uh, no, he was looking for his phone and they were surrounding and assaulting him. They could have just continued on their way.

Did you not watch the case?

Let's look st from the other side: (Note: I may not have the story completely straight) So, you're a grown man who lost your phone in the river and you need to retrieve it. You go to the spot to search for your phone and you see there's a group there. For whatever reason, perhaps you were flustered or aggravated because you lost your phone, you don't clearly communicate to these strangers your intentions. Why should you though, they're strangers? So you go to the place to look for your phone and get a little close to some of the people and they start focusing their attention on you. They guy was clearly feeling very awkward and probably a bit confused, but now we have a group of people focusing all their attention onto this man, a man who already felt out of place. So you're trying to think about where to find your phone, meanwhile, these teenagers are being extremely obnoxious and are beginng to surround and humiliate you. Keep in mind, you really haven't said anything at this point. They start screaming crazy stuff at you, mocking you, getting in your face, and finally they push you and begin to assault you. Gang assaults are not to be taken lightly. A 2v1 could easily result in serious injury, now imagine you're on the ground surrounded by 10+ people who are tellong at and assaulting you for no real reason. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to feel threatened and in danger at that point. Even after the man pulls the knife and tries to stand up they continue to assault him. When a man just let's you assault him, you best not push him far. At no point did they stop to consider why they were attacking they guy, nor the potentially serious damage they could inflict upon him. They were simply beating a man that was down because they could. If he punched the girl, then it's not the same, of course. This is simply the story as I saw and understood it.

I wonder how his daughter feels, never being gushed over and complimented, like he does with his son constantly. If I were his daughter, I would think I was absolutely worthless.

@@HollyMacNaughton maybe she wants to be private? And he's respectful of that. Not a lot of people want to be all over the internet and want to live private lives, especially with having a loved one in the public.

Proof?

​@@snorky222222 he's not trying to get clout, relax

Wish I was a Bruce Rivers classmate

@@snorky222222It’s a comment. Is he supposed to upload his degree? Ridiculous.

@@GabrielTheMagolorMainlmao right

Dude sliced through the diaphragm of a girl who was standing still doing nothing after being pushed to the ground after approaching a group of teens and fumbling around their tubes without saying anything about what he was doing, once he pulled the knife after being pushed to the ground and maybe taking a gentle slap he proceeded to stab 5 people, plunging his knife into the fucking heart of one, killing him instantly. Then, he ditched the weapon, and tried to get away with it, he IS GUILTY.

Every teen lied on the stand.

His Romanian background affected the way he speaks & reacts, but true, he absolutely should have remained silent & pulled a Ruby Franke!

@@Connordrs1123 how can anyone possibly stab five people? Because after the first stabbing the other four would run away… Unless they were surrounding him to attack him and then they would be within stabbing distance. So thanks for your shitty little story clarifying he was stabbing in self-defence. Clown. Don’t become a lawyer coz we will tear you a new one.

@@Connordrs1123 You're out of your mind.

Well he peft and came back to the group with a knife lmao

Nobody should ever have to justify why they carry a knife.

@@anopoabednego6173 nope but they need to justify it when the stab 5 ppl killing 1 almost a 2nd and seriously injuring the others.

A lot of people carry a knife on the Apple River to cut the rope at the end otherwise you need to try and carry while attached up a long hill onto a bus then have to get those attached tubes onto to old buses. It’s easier to cut and carry so the knife’s not weird but who stabs 5 kids!

I’m a “leftist” and couldn’t imagine telling someone not to have some thing to protect themselves with on them at all times. Or having to justify that.

and he didnt acted on selfdefence now he rots in jail

He literally punched one of the girls first and admitted in court

Not a taunting expert. But to me, it sounded like they twisted his words. "He is looking for then "insert joke". .. Its an old joke.. You know exactly what is going on, but your twist it up to embarrass him.

He was the adult though. You said it yourself, they were kids. He should have talked to them like a man.

@@lustrazor44no he didn’t

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this does not apply to law and what's legal. But I would agree with you in a common sense way.

He's from an Eastern block country, judging by name and accent. Possibly a lower trust society where survival sometimes requires violence. He pulled that knife after plunging it for max damage. Having said that....I think this was a bad charge. But I do think the overkill should be addressed... certainly not a murder charge. Mutual combat, maybe?

Thats why told him to leave..he didnt..nothing else could do he ran over to them

when my husband starts to get mad at another driver THAT ^^^ is exactly what I remind him of.

@@gracejones2831Yea. My boyfriends father too. It’s scary.

Oh there’s worse out there you ever heard of Brazil ?

If you watch the 1st aired video, this whole thing started with a young man named Juwan shouting " He's a Raper!" Twice, and then the other boys all calling him a Pedophile and saying he was " looking for little girls". Juwan then films, and narrates the whole scene as it escalates, while never leaving his tube. It will take an older person being killed by drowning, or worse before this mob mentality these kids have, will stop, if ever. Several football players pulled this crap in an A& W restaurant 5 years ago to my then 90 year old MIL. When I stepped in front of her, one of the boys Mothers had the audacity to jump up and start screaming at ME. I calmly told her to back the f up , or I was calling the Police for battery on an elderly person. She walked away, then. I CAN say, that we raised 6 kids without dui's, without the Police involved, by allowing them natural consequences when they were very young. They were also taught compassion for others( especially elderly people) and my now grown 13 Grandkids were taught the same. Parents need to start spending time with their kids, and teaching g basic morals, values, and manners. This entire scene would never er have gone shit sideways if these young adults weren't drunk off their assessment, and just plain mean. They FA, and FO that not everyone will put up with being bullied, and a victim. I don't think he should have gone as far as he did when defending himself , but who knows what anyone of us might do when 13 people are shoving us down into water repeatedly, and all shoving & screaming at a person.

@@Vater1 No I never heard of Brazil. Where is that ??? Is it a place in China ? Or maybe Africa ? Or maybe England? Or maybe somewhere else ? You sound really smart , so you should know.

@@reneet5858 I don't want to come off as rude but it is absolutely unfair to try and place all the blame for what happened on these kids. Everyone can see they're being asses and if they weren't nothing might've happened that day (Probably). However, we have to look at what happens next as being truly the problem. "Kids being kids" as Miu describes it to the police when he lies about his involvement. Kids being kids doesn't warrant the brutal stabbing of 4 and the killing of 1. I can empathise that it is scary when a whole groups starts yelling and shouting, but if you have a deadly weapon on you and shits going a little bit south you remove yourself asap. We don't really see in the video who threw the first punch but judging by how quick Miu was to stabbing I wouldn't be shocked if it was him. These kids were aggressive and definitely frightening but not life threatening by any means. It's the same kind of scary as when you see some teens in front of a store or something. You don't want anything bad to happen but youre not gonna blow their brains out at the first sign of interaction. I wish people would stop spreading the narrative that this was some little feeble old man who really wasn't up to much. This was a killer who threw away the murder weapon, tried to disguise himself from being identified to the crime and lied to police in order to try and be free. Without the video evidence he would probably be free to this day and it is disgusting that people will downplay this for what it really was.

Yep, so many of the worst qualities of human nature on display here in one form or another. Maybe not the full Fogo de Chao of bad human behavior like in Brazil, but definitely a smorgasbord ;)

So foolish of him. I assume he just has no faith in the justice system. But he really made his case so much worse with the follow up choices.

He Was Very Scared im Sure...

@@ryancasey919he fail him self not the system like you like to claim. Yes the kids where in the wrong for touching/ pushing him but the way how he pulled his knife and goes of like a ninja stabbing and killing in just a couple of seconds. Is not normal. This has noting to do with stand your ground. And hiss best friend was more concerned about his shoes then his friend who he claims never see weird behavior

​​@@FrasssIetss Oh good Lord... Can ANY of you tell the event that happened without embellishing facts or totally making stuff up? It all happens under 25 seconds because he DIDN'T go on some "ninja stabbing" spree!!

​​@@ryancasey919 I agree. But his lies and choices were so bizarre I do believe it stemmed from fear and shock. Not malice. What people don't understand is the self defense already happened before everything he did after. The defense won until the judge threw that piss poor prosecutor a lifeline and dropped anchor on Nic Miu. It's horrible all around. There are no winners in self defense, but those youths will never be held accountable and likely will give victim impact statements. I swear I'll throw up if that happens. It's disgusting and this case set dangerous precedent for self defense moving forward as our country continues to crumble into chaos!!!

Having your smart-ass daughter tell one she was rooting for Rambo the whole time is a close third. So I've heard.

He lied through everything 😂

He did what he had to do there is something wrong with anyone who says different

Yeah he's been an idiot. If he hadn't lied to the police I think they would've accepted the self-defense theory.

​@@phillophotographer7366 and the kids lied, too.

@beenbenson Because you are a mature and sane individual, unlike these frightening stabby folks.

I had a grandma in my basement too! Great stories

I mean yeah stabbing kids is bad BUT GET A LOAD OF HOW IMPOLITE THEY WERE GAWSH As long as we're calling the ex-President's adult offspring "kids" these folks under 30 are "kids"

And by cornering him, hitting him, shoving him under the water, and all around tormenting the guy! I’m shocked! You can literally SEE him stumble when he fell toward the tubes!

I completely agree. They got violent with him - who knows what would’ve happened if he didn’t have that knife. They very well could have killed him, especially pushing him down in the water like that. It was what, 13 on 1? FFS, the guy had a right to defend himself. Seems he went too far but that’s part of the point. 1) Don’t fuck with strangers and 2) treat people how you would like to be treated. Those kids are fuckin brats. You’re right - their parents should be utterly ashamed and embarrassed.

I totally agree.

YOU'VE GOT 10 SECONDS ! 😳

He should have sent them an email to warn them, but he had no phone because they stole it, so yeah...

He stabbed bro in the yellow after he got push down and punched the first time. He stabs dude in the yellow as dude in the yellow was LITERALLY pushing him down again😂😂😂.

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Agreed

The same thing that can make you laugh is the same thing that can make you cry.

They make a big deal about a knife and they lucky he wasn't carrying which is also legal..

They FAAFO real quick! They asked for it and it was given unto them, Old Testament style.

They were seeing their friends disemboweled and dying before their eyes. “Voice cracking like a middle schooler” is a little callous.

@AlisonWarren That's called reality. When you attack people, they tend to defend themselves. Aka they found out. Sucks to suck. Don't attack people. Absolute miscarriage of justice that the man who defended himself was convicted.

@@EnderPearlRs But he went ballistic and stabbed the girl Ariel, a 120 LBS unarmed unaggressive bystander. He was justified stabbing the boys that attacked him, but that's it ... just randomly stabbing everyone in sight is ridiculous ... that's not how these things work

@@EnderPearlRshe walked away and then walked back into the group with a knife… of course he was convicted. This was an easy case.

Lol FAFO is about as overused as "literally" in the intraweb😂 The guy is about to FAFO when he spends the rest of his life in prison.

Exactly, what was this guy thinking?

@@ingrid_inthesky The lawyer in this video missed a detail. He drew the knife earlier than he assumed. At 9:29 in this video, he is already reaching in his pocket and working the knife out. He keeps his arm stiff, concealing his intent. You asked what he was thinking. At 9:33 he turns to the camera smiling. In that moment, he was thinking: "Thank God! I finally get to use my knife in self-defence." Watch that smile again. He's smiling as he's quietly drawing a knife out of his pocket. At 9:38 he's already holding the knife as he speaks to the orange-haired girl. And it's only at 9:45 he is knocked into the water. They were yelling at him to leave. He didn't like their tone, so he decided to arm himself, and stay.

Ohh now you think judges all the jury are dumb

@@abovethevlog9024yes

Or a drunken mob can attack you

Don't go anywhere without a knife

And a gun.

Gonna use your pocket knife to cut a root? Now you're just reaching for excuses

A knife isn't cutting a fuckin root gtfoh

Wtf are you talking about you nut lmao - he created the situation and was the one acting creepy. had he not explained himself there wouldn't have been a problem.

Amen

Only an innocent man who defended himself is now in prison

The victim is now the guilty! Our social values are upside-down. And none of those that assaulted Mui will be held accountable. We live in a woman's world!

So crazy, and none of them are doing any time for assault or perjury. Aboslutely insane. You only go to jail if you win the fight. If you lose you get to play victim.

I read he was from Romania. That explains a lot to me.

The jury failed us all.

Most reasonable people who aren't blind disagree w/ the idiot jury. I'm sure even some of the blind people too

Definitely

Hopefully the jury gets their lives ans their kids' lives messed up by one of those bratty teens in the future. I hope all those scoundrels that bullied that man, end up paying for their mistakes terribly for the rest of their shitty lives

The fact that he lied to the police and pretended not know what happen shows he knew he did something wrong. He would have been better off to say nothing or say hey I feared for my life and I defended myself. The other thing is he never said a word to those kids like "I'm looking for a cell phone." The other thing is you can't use deadly force if you can get away. He didn't try. If he tried to leave and the kids prevented him from leaving, it would have been justified. The other thing is he didn't have to stab that girl. She was no threat to him he's a grown man. Sad all around. Someone lost a child and he lost his freedom.

Juwahn Cockfield.

Why???

​@@2wheels42 Cuz the dumb 🥷🏾er started the whole thing

​@@2wheels42are you that dumb to see why

​@@2wheels42the stupid 🥷🏾er started the whole thing

That is appalling! Don't they care what it does to the wildlife?

Seriously. As a kid whenever my family went to the river or lake my parents both had pocket knives in case anyone got snagged on something. It’s pretty basic water safety.

I never thought of that and am going, this weekend, camping and fishing on the Kern River. Thanks for the heads up!!

Our society is made up of basically whimps....men who think like females!

It's been a long while, good reminder, thank you!

So if it was your teenage boy, you'd be okay with some older creeper running up and grabbing their legs, and wondering around looking all weird and not leaving them alone? You wouldn't watch an adult to come over and try to get the creeper to leave?

​@@AFloridaSonYou do know they interacted before the video started, right? He told them he was looking for a phone. After he walked away, they showed him (taunted) a phone in a waterproof bag that he thought could have been his friends phone. That is when the video starts. He says he slipped on a rock and fell into them. I don't know what happened for sure. There is testimony from teens admitting to showing him a phone. The teens were punks. That's when they started yelling that he was looking for little girls and that he was a rapist. As you know, it escalates from there.

The point of the original comment is embarrassment for the parents if their kids were on video behaving like this. While I’m pleased with the verdict, if my late-teen brothers were out there on video for the whole world to see acting like THIS?!! I think it’s easy to forget that, while it might seemingly be a rare occurrence nowadays, there are kids out there who are actually raised to NOT engage in such behavior. EVERYONE was a bad actor here, they’ve admitted it and will live with this nightmare forever.

​@@AFloridaSonThey knew he was looking for a phone and then dropped his snorkels and googles so of course he wasn't just going to walk away.

​@@mrsjprichI don't know what video you watched but at the beginning I saw him walking away and that kid yelling rapist at which point he ran back to the kids and started messing with their tunes. I don't condone the behavior from those drunk kids but he went over there to begin with, left and came back, and was the first to throw a punch. Regardless, at no point did those kids deserve what happened to them. Did he tell the cops my God these kids were all over me I couldn't get away? No, he told them he knew nothing about what happened.

Thank You, Exactly! Is Nobody else seeing this & realizing. He stabbed that girl 1st(they thought he just hit her but she is screaming in background the whole time), then they punch him & then he stabs someone & double stabs another guy after.

By the time this video says he has the knife...the girl is already Screaming & Stabbed, there is blood in the water. Then he stabs more people but she was 1st & some of the boys didn't even realize yet.

Yes -if you slow down the video you see look up, horrified with blood on her side.

Yea, they're so used to GTA and RESPAWNING they didn't take into consideration that the old man dont play those games......

Exactly. Like my friend says “People are so living online that they have forgotten what it is to be punched on the face”.

Consequences? Yeah. This guy is going way to prison for the rest of his life probably. Six guilty verdicts.

Miu guilty and in jail for the rest of his life going "is this real" shows how out of touch these boomers are

​@@goodcitizen3027the 'consequences' he was talking about was one dead kid, another who had their guts spilled out, and the rest traumatized, but y'all are looking at this as a victory since the guilty verdict... like the dead kid is meaningless

One more time; When day drinking eat every so often and drink plenty of water!! Mardi Gras.❤

I sincerely think that he talked himself into a guilty verdict by lying to the cops. never ever talk to the cops

Guilty doesn't mean you did a crime just means a group of random people of questionable intelligence came together and believed you did a crime.

So another innocent man goes to jail…well done the 12 people who are too stupid to get out jury duty

Because he MURDERED a CHILD and violently stabbed several others 🤦‍♂

bobbing4snapples He MURDERED his way into a guilty verdict 🤡

I mean that goes both ways the kids were being ignorant but then the grown adult chose to act exactly the same way which is what then led to the escalation. Any rational adult would have just carried on with what they were doing not tried to one up the immaturity by touching the teens and their tubes splashing water at them. You expect drunk teens to act immaturely as they are still immature you expect more adult behavior out of a 52 year old man.... You'd expect a 52 year old man to know well enough to leave people alone as you say but he chose not to leave the kids alone and ended up taking a life and harming 4 other people atleast 2 of which never did anything to him. But yea respect your elders even when they don't know how to act their age I guess?

@@tylergartner4069who are you? Their sister-wife? Bunch of rednecks who should’ve been put in their place a long time ago.

It’s been bad ever since they wouldn’t leave Britney alone

Considering HE started ALL of this, it would be the ADULT who needed the “lesson” 🤡

@@eriv4735 ​ No, he did not start it. Watch the tape, clown. He was minding his own business looking for his friend's phone. Quite frankly, if his dumbass friend didn't lose his phone none of this would've happened.

Miu was drunk himself so now what

​@@ThatsCrazyBro3752idiot teenagers not figuratively, literally are on camera doing everything they're lieing about. Now what?

@ThatsCrazyBro3752 The inaccuracy of his statements are to be expected. So now what?

Escalated, sure. Provoked? I'm not entirely sure about that. He was acting pretty odd, so it's not unreasonable to be creeped out by him. He also lied about basically everything to the police, so it's not a huge leap to think that someone who stabbed 5 people (killing 1 and disemboweling another), could've been trying to hide the fact that he'd thrown a punch in response to being berated while the camera wasn't on him. Ideally, he just says what he's doing near them, and none of this ever happens. If he really was looking for his phone, that's probably the one thing a group of drunk college-age kids could empathize with, and they'd probably have helped him find it.

@@RaptureSR You are so unreasonable !!!!!!!!!

He could have thrown a punch but it is reasonable to believe he did not. The rules when deciding guilt are not maybe, it is to take only what is PROVEN.

everyone talking ab how they keep a knife in the river because their job or because of fishing lines are missing the point. you didn’t bring those as tools of self defense and this guy did. he is saying a REGULAR person on the river not some professional diver or fisherman but a regular civilian on a relaxing day in the river would not bring a knife with them. you can disagree all you like but that is his point and yall pointing out the reasons why you keep a knife are missing the point especially since all of yall are stating you bring the knives for non self defense situations

@@NinjaSamurai-jm9sx The problem you run into is that who started the altercation isn't the only issue with his self-defense claim The number of people he stabbed, the extent of their injuries, and his failing his duty to retreat because there were accounts and other video evidence of him going back into the group also make his claim hard to buy. If you couple that with accounts that he threw the first punch and his attempt to conceal his involvement from police, there it's not unreasonable to believe that his actions weren't self-defense. Some component of what he did might have been self-defense, but like Bruce said, you can't claim self-defense if you started the fight. At some point, the force goes beyond self-defense too. At what point do you stop thinking a man stabbing people is self-defense? The 3rd victim? The disemboweled lady? When someone dies? The 5th person? Take all of the factors into account, and what the jury did doesn't seem outlandish.

I'm tired of people thinking they can jump straight to deadly force and get away with it.

He could’ve ran. He could’ve used his fists. He used a knife. His fault.

​@@Ty.88he couldn't run. They were blocking him from escape. The open water you see in the video is towards the deep end of the river and unswimmable without a floatation device.

@@Ty.88 THEY attacked HIM. Have you ever been in a situation like that? Or even in a fight? I promise it's not the time you light up a pipe, and have an intellectual debate as to what the proper course of action is.

​@@mvfusionIm tired of people who think pushing, punching and kicking someone doesnt equate deadly force, especially if you slip underwater.

Exactly he still had a chance to walk away

Exactly... words, mutual respect, avoid violence. Easy.

This is the way but sadly alcohol was involved

Exactly

Yeah I've done a 180 on this. I was Team Nick until I saw the first video. These girls caused this, the Madison one holding a phone right in his face begging for a smack. I believe she was allowed to submit her evidence by a statement? This 'Riley' one doesn't remember their provocation. IDK... they're victims!! Thing is he stabbed all the quiet ones didn't he... the real instigators escaped harm? Wonder if she talks to her 'friends' now?

Do you also punch women when you get scared? Should probably see a professional about that

But he made the kids scared first by creepily and silently approaching them and encroaching on their space.

@BronzeBellaBria Public property. If the young adults were uncomfortable they should have left the area, not incite. I'm shocked you think its okay to walk up to someone minding their own business, film screaming atrocious insults into their face, and gang up on them.

​@@TimeSage434 Hell yeah. What do you call a woman with 2 black eyes? A bad listener

​@@BronzeBellaBriaexactly 😊

But then the guy on orange shorts runs right into the knife when he tries to knock miu down a second time

@@campfirestories6681 they were drunk oblivious kids, they were probably not looking for a knife in this guys hands. If you watch their reactions, it takes a while for them to notice.

If you provoke people, get attacked, then react with excessive force you will go to prison.

I agree that people should defend themselves but unfortunately he messed up when he lied to the cops, that’s what sentenced him in my opinion

@@paulserna7191 lying to cops doesn’t make him innocent or guilty. (My opinion). The video should decide.

@@Velazquez4life-xf7ts point taken but I didn’t see that on the Vid. I never saw him attack the group first. It appears to look like they started with him.

@@brandonbattle9359he ran up on the boys. Never left. Struck mady before anything actually physical had happened. And pulled a knife before that and didn’t say anything or try to take himself out of the situation. Everyone made mistakes but Miu by far the worst

There are so many freaking sheep anymore. That's another thing that is atrocious.

So why didn't the grown adult man walk away? Kids told him to leave, he could have ended the situation! He wanted trouble! 😮

That was so unfair , that man is gonna die in prison because of those loud mouth trouble makers and that's what they are , they could of helped him look for the phone , but they were looking for a fight and wouldn't shut up ! And I don't believe that he punched that lady , not at all , the only person I saw get punched and pushed around was Nicolae , and it was 13 punks against one man and he gets first degree murder charges , the justice system there is a joke and the jury must of been asleep to pick a guilty verdict, oh that's right it was said that a man on the jury did keep falling asleep , so how's that fair , it's not ! And why is it alright for all of them to lie? He did too but maybe he was scared and didn't want to get into trouble and just said the first thing he could think of , I mean none of this was ok , but first degree murder, that's wrong and I hope there is someone that will get the verdict over turned because he didn't deserve to be found guilty , those punks should of left him alone and they started it all , 13 punks and one man and now his life is ruined because they didn't know how to act like a normal person , they were only looking for a fight and wouldn't stop and then when he had enough they ran like cowards and their laughter turned to cry's and they acted like they didn't do anything and they did , and this just shows you how unfair the justice system is , I hope someone helps him and he gets to go home to his wife and precious little dog 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Taunting is nothing. But when the mob lays you out and pushes/punches you twice or three times into the water where you could drown - well that is serious “self defense” territory.

@@misstigerlilly7353 He was convicted by a jury of his peers. He was the adult in the situation, and could have walked away at any time. He was the only one there with a weapon. He instigated the interaction. If you think he did not commit a viscious murder you seriously need your head examined.

Amen!

Most will bow down to the Bar's wishes over the clients perhaps? If they wish to continue in their chosen career.

This is the best free advice you'll ever get right here

Same he’s pretty chill about weed it’s refreshing : )

Agreed ❤ 100%

Agreed! I wish society would stop normalizing and glorifying alcohol and alcoholism. It does contribute to so many lives lost and ruined

Maybe you don’t know the dangers of Mary Jane. My uncle told me all about it, and he would know. Because he is an alcoholic.

To those that say weed has never killed anyone. One time when it was still illegal, an airplane was dropping bales of it from the air to the ground. Two people were struck by the bales killing both of them.

"Use your words" definitely applied here

Verbal harassment/bullying, even though hurtful towards your feelings, doesn't justify stabbing someone. Nor does underage drinking.

These are the same generation of "young uns" who got their anuses reamed by the Taliban! Tough guys indeed picking on an old man. I have faced a crowd of drunk teenagers twice in my life and I was minding my own business when they started coming my way. I was able to get away.

What happened to being stoic and letting it roll off you?

@@TheBigMeme67-I Mean Kalling Someone A Pedophile For Fun Is Not The Business.

Underrated comment right here

Yeah agreed, everybody was acting like big ol idiots in this situation.

Nobody learned anything from this incident. They all think they're victims.

If Miu was convicted here, then all the young adults present should be charged with inciting violence and assault. Yes, Miu struck out in self defence, yes he was intoxicated, but so were the young adults. They pushed him into the water and punched him while he was down, which could've resulted in his drowning. They need to be charged too

@@sarajuanaict: I think that is the crux of the case? The prosecutors said Mui started it when he rushed over to the tubes? In Wisconsin you can Not use self defense if you start the altercation.

I watched several body language expert. They all agree with the man. He was no threat until he started getting hit

I can't stand being around drunk people.

Seems like common sense to me.

They were all inebriated , after that " voluntary " was mostly out of the question ?

Or be stupid enough to approach them hoping for a fight 😂

At 10:54 the girl is already bleeding

Sticks and stones my friend.

52 isn't really old, is it?

No knives and bodies ​@@calliew311

If you watched the testimonies everyone lied. They lied about the kids screaming help. They lied about Madison getting hit/punched/slapped. Everyone one of the teens tried to downplay their part. The people who got that teen killed was Madison and that black kid.

Only 1 person there used a weapon to kill. These kids were rude, and embarrassing to watch, but their stupidity isn't a death sentence. Once he ran up on their tubes and grabbed at them, he lost a lot of credibility of self defence. Thing is, he even knew he went way overboard with it, judging by his every action after.

Pocket knives are handy, especially the Swiss Army knife.

Yes!! Bruce questioning the man carrying a knife was one of the few Dumb moment he's had.

​@@JohnDoe-qz1qlnot just that but he's playing dumb. well apparently everyone wants to act like lying to the cops is equal to murder. So dumb. That's a separate charge. It doesn't change ANYTHING about what happened during the self defense.

@@TheCollapse410 I fully agree!

Carrying a knife is fine, stabbing 5 unarmed kids is not

🧐 If being called out for creepy behavior escalating to him punching a female and being called out for that is something that's going to push a person over the edge they should be in a mental institution and not three sheets to the wind with a deadly weapon on a rafting trip

I agree about today’s kids unruly behaviours and entitlement! I’m also a middle aged woman. He should’ve just walked away!!! He should’ve called the cop himself against these teen bullies! Now, he’s gonna be behind bar for years!!!

​@honeybadger3570 in nicks defense he is Albanian and served in the military. He's probably sent numerous people to the afterlife

@@Velazquez4life-xf7tshow is that a defense lmao you need help

and your mentally ill husbands/parents

What almost all kids today are lacking while growing up. ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. Cause & effect. Also known as FAFO

Did nothing to the bees? What was he supposed to do

@@Velazquez4life-xf7tsSome might remove the nest to prevent further stings. I say bully that, they were no threat until some dumbass started chucking rocks.

​@Jared-qf1tj Bees are more important than your kids. I'd rather have honey than your privileged kids.

​@Jared-qf1tjactually it's very seldom an unprovoked attack, considering how many bees are out there.... I know innocent people get stung, I have been many times... but seriously are you saying kill all the bees and wasps ?? If you look into it a little their benefits far outweigh some random stings....

Big and tough?? Lol he was the one acting big and tough. Running up on them. Pulling a knife. He won't be so big and tough when he gets beat in prison for killing a minor and stabbing girls

Yeah it’s ridiculous how they claim they were scared meanwhile the footage shows every single one of them laughing and making fun of the guy while they push and hit him…. Unbelievable. All this does is justify absurd behavior by young adults that they still keep calling kids. These are COLLEGE students, not kids.

@@yehheapsmadaybutdid…. Did…. You watch any of this case? Did you even watch the video?! Hellen Keller would be more up to date on this case than you

You lack empathy narcissist!

@@Juke582lack of empathy?! This is the law. Its facts. Your feelings and emotions mean literally nothing. Yes a mother and father lost their son but in NO WAY should this have been Nui’s fault. 10 college kids ganged up, pushed down and slapped a 60 year old quadruple bypass patient. You F AROUND and you FIND OUT. Stupid games were played a bunch of stupid prizes were won.

No nick instigated this by running up to them a second time grabbing their tubes and their legs. That’s when the started taunting him.

They didn't get off free. One died, three others got severe injuries and the rest got a lifetime of nightmares.

Bruce got it wrong. They weren’t the aggressors. Mui hid the knife so that the teenagers couldn’t see it. If you feel threatened, the non-psychopathic reaction is to flee the threat. Not stay on the scene and do a Rambo on teenagers. He DISEMBOWELED/GUTTED a defenseless teenager! Thus, murdering him and you’re worried about the teenagers getting charged?

"Going off free"? Wtf are you talking about?!

I mean you literally cannot be serious. Geesh you folks are so uneducated to law. Miu was just convicted of 1st degree murder. You are asking what charges the kids are going to get for defending themselves against their murderer? You can't make this stuff up.

Yeah it’s hard to feel sorry for them

Still don't deserve to get gutted!!

@@Fasteddie-op6sd They could have killed the dude by shoving him over, plus it looked like their aggression was going to keep escalating. The only reason it didn't escalate is because he defended himself with the knife.

@@PiousSlayeron top of that he was just coming off triple bypass surgery being kicked punch and thrown around had the potential to be fatal in his situation. It was really strange he didn’t try to verbally de-escalate the conflict it probably wouldn’t have helped. These kids were very viscous and cruel remember being a teen it was normal to bully other kids but can’t imagine bullying an adult.

@@Fasteddie-op6sd I agree to a point. Isaac was lunging at him which changed the trajectory of the knife as Mui was pushed back. Just a horrible tragic thing to have happened. But it doesn’t change the fact those kids started the altercation. Mui’s certainly not 100% innocent in his reaction in regards to what he told the cops, but 1st degree murder is insane in this case

I totally agree and I was shocked at the verdict. It’s sad that someone died, but the guy was obviously defending himself, plus it was 13 on 1! Absolutely ridiculous and this is why our civilian jury system is a joke.

@Stranzua Me too. Unbelievable.

Because it's common knowledge to walk away from a situation if you are being provoked, but a lot of people aren't smart enough or sober enough.

He was actually punched and knocked to the ground in the river. Dante said he laid him out. Then repeatedly assaulted. All this before he ever stabbed anyone.

@@motherofcats2712 He was hit after he pulled a knife and hit a girl. How can you not understand that? He also first assaulted and harassed the underage boys physically before the girl came down to tell him to go away and leave them alone. He never had a self defence case, not even close, at all.

The power of ego is stronger unfortunately

People seem to be oblivious to that these days

*Stand your ground *Castle Doctrine Used at an unexpected level as an excuse for violence, mix in alcohol & blood will flow

Hard to do when you are clearly surrounded by an angry mob of teens.

⁠WI don’t have those, nor the duty to retreat. Castle maybe but still no duty to retreat.