E60 M5 S85 Rod Bearing Issues | Oil Issues What Weight and Brand

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E60 M5 S85 Rod Bearing Issues | Oil Issues What Weight and Brand
Do you want to know what type and weight of oil to use in the S85 engine from the BMW E63 M6 and E60 M5 ? I explain what type to use and how this affects the car when you change viscosities. Did you know that high oil pressure is not always good and I explain in this tutorial, why. Do you go with a thinner oil to help the bearings or do you use a heavier oil ? Find out here for the information. Also do not forget to visit my next video which explains which bearings to use if you find yourself replacing them.
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@machtschnell7452 4 года назад

My independent recommends Mobil1 0W-40 for S65 and S85. Warming engine up to critical operating temperature before subjecting it to load is mandatory.

@ECPP 4 года назад

Exactly, it should not be treated like a Dodge Caravan that runs 20 thou rod bearing clearances. Cheers,

@Adam.Morrison 5 лет назад

bmw has approved 5w40 from amsoil in these older m cars, the v10 and the e92 v8 as well. 10w60 is just to thick if you want it to last. even once the rod bearing clearance is addressed with something like a BE bearing kit the rod 2 rod clearance is tight as well causing oil exiting issues. id be suggesting the amsoil 5w40 that has just been approved. the cold start scuffing with 10w60 is a bigger problem than people think as well. this is just my opinion from what i have seen. love the channel buddy keep it up

@artbrookey3341 5 лет назад

5w40....NEVER recommended for the V10 by BMW. I have read the article you speak of, re read it...Only 10w60 for the V10

@ECPP 5 лет назад

Thanks a bunch for watching. Thanks too for the comments. Cheers.

@NickKautz 4 года назад

BMW added a recommendation for 5w30 in 2013 for the v10 cars. That's right , 1/2 the viscosity of 10w60.

@craigantono284 6 лет назад

Very good said Mark.

@sabertoothdoggeastwood7636 4 года назад

Hey Mark thanku for quick response your channel is very informative love the channel thank you

@ECPP 4 года назад

Thanks a lot for watching.

@nathonminor371 6 лет назад

Mark, I really enjoy your videos. We are looking for a M5 now. I do a lot of studying before jumping in on a new project. Your ownership videos are really assisting me.

@safrazhousein5795 6 лет назад

Nathon Minor i looking to sell my m5, 2006, 85k miles, new clutch, flywheel, ignition coils, no issues with the rod bearings or vanos, well maintained, excellent condition. Silver, lowerd with h&r springs, Rohan Rims, 2 12” subs, muffler & midpipe delete

@safrazhousein5795 6 лет назад

Nathon Minor asking $26k

@frankieharter9522 6 лет назад

5W-50 Castrol high zinc. No more rod bearing issues

@ECPP 6 лет назад

Sounds like you found a solution. How long have you been using ? Have you checked via Blackstone ?

@NickKautz 4 года назад

50 is still too thick for .0015" clearances.

@anthonyk 4 года назад

@@NickKautz then 40?

@keithaverill1223 4 года назад

Hey Mark...thanks for the great videos about the E60 M5. I just bought one this week and it's very good info...thank you!!!

@ECPP 4 года назад

Thanks for watching Keith. What colour did you get?

@keithaverill1223 4 года назад

@@ECPP I found a very clean 2006 Interlagos blue with 81k miles one owner... These are amazing cars. 👍

@dragonfire5702 3 года назад

🐲Great info💥

@ECPP 3 года назад

Thanks a lot

@safrazhousein5795 6 лет назад

Liqui Molly everyone in NY & Miami uses, what’s your take on it ?

@2ndProtects1st 5 лет назад

Mark I love your passion!! 10w60 is wayyyyyyyyy toooooooo thick!! Bmw dealers are a joke especially when they tell me to change my oil at 15000 miles!! I have an e92 M3 and an e39 M5. I use 0W50 Mobil 1 racing in both it has a very high zinc content. That oil is an over kill in the e39 M5 because e39 M5 with the S62 is very different engine then the S65 S85, the S62 can take a 10w30 and it would be ok... I have no issues with either cars vanos with 0w50. Mobil 1 0w50 claims that it protects the engine up 500F degrees, I don’t know how true that is but even if it’s at 350f degrees it would still be a great oil.. Also it could be a placebo effect, and I could be wrong, I am not an expert but when I switched from 10w60 to 0w50 in my e92 m3, the S65 ran smoother, quieter and snapped in revs much faster then with the 10w60.. good bye rod bearing problems!

@danielriver9920 2 года назад

Would you ever run the Liquid Molly Pro-Line Engine Flush - Liqui Moly LM2037KT2 -as directed before changing your oil in the S85 or N57 BMW engines?

@JonR-gr8se Год назад

Just purchased an 2010 E64 and find your videos fascinating - thank you. Quick question - the car says there's too much oil. Scheduled for service in a week - approximately 12 miles from here (some freeway). Drive it or have it towed? Appreciate your comment!

@ECPP Год назад

if its it like 1.1 i it may be OK but generally I would not drive it with too much oil. You may be able to pull a little out of the filler cap if you have a pump .

@saedhaider4226 5 лет назад

install motorad 880090 thermostat and use redline 5w-50 and rod bearing issue is decreased by 50% too 75% failure

@zxtenn 6 лет назад

Mark, what do you think of the idea of a block heater if the car is going to be used in the cold weather? That way is sub zero temperatures the engine wouldn't be stone cold and might aid in less start up wear

@nathonminor371 6 лет назад

Is there no freeze plugs in the block, Mark?

@robertmontgomery7158 2 года назад

The first oil for E39 M5 was 5W-30 then BMW changed to 10W-60 after rod bearing issue. The 5W-30 worked with VANOS. Confusing

@ECPP 2 года назад

Cheers

@MMN403 4 года назад

Do not use 10w60. Specialy bmw brand oil (shell), Red line 5w30 in winter, and 5w40 in summer. Warm your fuckin car properly. And cool it of the same way. And change your oil every 5000 to 6000 KM max. And don't beat your damn car 24/7. My E60 now is 200,000km and no issues what so ever!

@lucaspeiris185 5 месяцев назад

Original bearings?

@MMN403 5 месяцев назад

@lucaspeiris185 yes but I don't have it anymore. Sold it

@bmwM5ma 2 года назад

What are you using now?

@halitb9910 2 года назад

5w30 amsoil signature serie, or 0w40 mobil 1 fs.

@kevinkarbonik2928 5 лет назад

I have a Troy Jeup Built engine in my e60 m5... pushing 600 hp. He says 5W-50. Redline preferred, but Castrol Edge 5W-50 is ok too. I would not extend it over 3k miles.... 5km

@ECPP 5 лет назад

Frequent oil changes are good and thinner weight is good for cold starts. Cheers.

@Zakov318 5 лет назад

Why simply not to use 5W-50 race oil to resolve that issue? Vanos should be fine with this weight anyway.

@NickKautz 4 года назад

Still too thick , 40 would be the upper limit for these bearing clearances

@sabertoothdoggeastwood7636 4 года назад

I’ve been using 10 60 sometimes when I chec the oil after oil change it reads 1.5 what is real level shut it be at.? Having coil pack issues now

@ECPP 4 года назад

It should be below 1.0.

@artbrookey3341 5 лет назад

I was waiting to see if you were going to talk on this....the biggest issue is warm up. Most other cars, people see a temperature gauge...it's water temp. Not the M5, there is no actual gauge for water, just a light. If one has the head up display on, you will see the tach, keep the rpm's in the yellow until the engine reaches the correct temp. This takes awhile on the V10, a few minutes. People do not warm up properly, take it to a high rpm, sooner or later the rod bearings will fail, not enough oil at 8,000 rpm. Why BMW didn't stress this fact I don't know. Most BMW mechanics will tell you, warm it up correctly, change oil at 5/6K miles, shouldn't have an issue. I use Red Line 10w60 with extra ZDDP

@ECPP 5 лет назад

Great comments and thats what I have been recommending as well. Thanks for watching.

@DEMediaDrive 4 года назад

During warm up. I always wait until the rpm drops before pulling off.

@NickKautz 5 лет назад

5w30 or 0w40 would have eliminated all issues. But BMW was already in too deep when it became clear that this was an epidemic. For them to suddenly change the recommended oil to 0w40 for example, would have been the equivalent of admitting guilt and therefore being forced to take responsibility for related damages, which apparently they would rather people continue to spin bearings with the wrong oil than to come clean and provide the simple solution. And that would have been a judgement call from whoever was in charge at the time, reflective of their own personality.