@@segoiii Yeah but the parents had a guide on them & where well fed. Now imagine it being 100x worse because they (where) injured, hungry, lost & panic was growing more & more when they realized they where fucked. Also take the note that jungle turns into a whole different animal at night.
@@SwissMarksman they weren´t there at night. The photos at night are definitely not made by the girls. They were seen at about 3 o´clock in the afternoon by a guy who owns a local store there exhausted and heading towards Boquete. So either they started the hike on the Pianista much earlier or they didn´t even start it at all and the photos are all fake. Furthermore they were seen taking another trail before, but cancelling it after only 30 minutes. And it was said that Lisanne was ill (cold). What you don´t see at any Pianista photo. Whatever happend there. They definitely did not just get lost at the Pianista.
Really breathtaking, very interesting! But I wouldn't run up there... Too warm, too narrow, too dangerous! Who knows who could come your way, nobody can hear you scream, let alone see you! Remember Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon! Back when I was just young I would be up there...nowadays I'm too scared and respectful of the area! Cool Video! 👍
Excellent!! Very beautiful video!! But i‘m thinking about the sad story of the two young dutch women who went missing and were found dead after a couple of months later Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you again for sharing this !!! Wow this is a steep stretch of way, great how steady you managed to keep the camera. Glad you didn't fall into the river with all that equipment, when you tripped :) Looking forward to next one next week.
Are those locals around the area? Btw thank you so much for your great effort providing us complete walkthrough around the area, this is something we all want to see
Thank you very much ! These locals don't live there. They either go there to work few days in their farm much further away, or they come from Alto Romero to buy food in Boquete.
@@Romain_C i would like to go there and walk the same path that kris & lisanne pass by , but I like to make a group with nice tools , because I know that something is still there to fine it , and I like to be one of the groups to fine what it missing , don’t care how much money or time it take , you think you can help with that , if you’re in is only 2 people you & I , and we can look for 3 moré , what do you think ? You think I can be done ,? Look for the missing answers , where and what happens , a documentary about what happens afte those pictures together in the top , what they was looking for and how for how deep they went , and to fine the river and walk down the river side by side looking for anything , please let make it happen
Thanks for making these videos it is so interesting to see what the entire trail is like. I've read the info on the website about the expedition but seeing a video of the trail is incredible. It really does make me wonder what was making them push on so far past the Mirador.
If they thought the trail did a grand loop (as many nature trails do), then they may have pushed on, thinking that they would see some new scenery that they wouldn't see if they boringly doubled back, and also that once the trail fully looped they'd be getting closer to home with every step. Indeed this may have even caused them to rush a bit. There's also the theory they were looking for a waterfall somewhere on the other side of the mountain. May have taken quite a while for them to realize that they'd made a big mistake. Fact is, I myself, after reading and watching quite a bit about this story don't know if the waterfall exists or not! By the time they'd wised up, realizing that they couldn't make it back even to the Mirador before night overtook them, they may have pushed even further on while the light lasted, hoping to find a house or some civilization that would allow them to avoid spending the night out in the wilderness -- which would be understandable, I guess. I mean, just like in a plane crash or many other disasters, mistake often follows mistake, and stress usually makes things worse...
@@SYSCOM821 Some of those photo's are rather haunting, because they seemed so enthusiastic about the adventure. To push on after the summit was madness, though, I guess -- like you said, with basically no equipment at all. And I'll bet after spending even one night shivering in the dark they knew they were in big trouble.
@@polarvortex3294 Yes, as you say. The enthusiasm (which you can see from the photos) sent them into a kind of euphoria. In the euphoria, they switched off their minds and went very deep into the jungle trails. Possibly up to three and a half hours before the injury occurred. It was impossible to return with the injury. They had hiking trails from Western Europe in mind, which have a starting point and an end point. Possibly with markings.
Hola, felicitaciones y muchas gracias por su genial trabajo en busca de dar claridad en el caso de Kris y Lisanne; mi pregunta es lograron ubicar el sitio donde el instituto forense neerlandes señalo como posible lugar del accidente? Tengo entendido que seria entre el 1er y el 2do rio. Y de ser asi que tan probable es tener un accidente alli? El 1er rio es afluente del rio culebra? Son rios/quebradas muy rocosas, cabe preguntarse como fue que una mochila no impermeable se encontro varios km abajo sin daños significativos en si misma y su contenido? Gracias de antemano y continuen en busca de respuestas y claridad.
Here's where the trap is ! Thanks so much this what I wanted to see beyond mirador ...truly a spinner once you go in your lost simply no way out you see esp. going to a country 1st time without any hiking experience nor dressed up for it ..my head was going in circles 🔵 🔴 🙃 😒 🙄 just watching you trail 👣 down..!!
14:00 another person is on the trail. this is very likely the scenario with the 2 girls. First of all, they were wearing light clothes and certainly didn't intend to go far. So it was impossible they simply veered off course to explore the forest, as some people suggest. Either they were followed or they encountered people with bad intentions. They were then taken to a remote area, but managed to hide their phones - that's why they still managed to try to call emergency a few times, but not too many times.
Por poco me muero cuando vi que se le apareció un hombre en esa soledad... y eso que nada mas lo estoy viendo por video, si llego a estar ahí me da algo. Es lo que posiblemente les pasó a las holandesas, se encontraron con tipos que buscaban turistas para descuartizarlos y vender sus órganos. Horror!
Thank you! Yes, it's intentional. I wanted to remove some statements I made because I either disagree with them, or there are not clear enough, or confusing.
Who were those people near the river where the last photo Kris was taken.(Prada?) Your video's shows there are a lot of pleaces after the mirador that you can fall down. But it also looks like a clear path on some occasions. The last part before the mirador looks quit simular like the part after the mirador. Therefore I think it's quite logical those girls walked on...and on. Great video's and thanks you so much for sharing. Do you have more video's come up? When and where can I find Your pictures?
Thanks! Yes, more videos to come of the trail at least. Actually, I would like to publish a complete walkthrough to the first monkey-bridge so there might be like 8 parts to that serie of videos. However, I have some videos that seems to miss in the files. So I might have 9 minutes, or more, of videos missing but I will see if that's the case when I reach that point during the editing. For the pictures, I plan to use some for an article in the future. Yes, it looks like the path just before the Mirador but I would say that this path is much steeper. The place is interesting, so I'm not surprised people would go there. About falling, I kind of disagree. I mean for the slopes next to the trail. You could slip, but you won't go very far and you can climb with not much issue. I climbed a worse slope in that area and it was fine (of course I wasn't injured but the girls were together, so if one of them was injured, the other one could help her).
@@Romain_CThanks you for clearing up. Like you and many others they may have encountered some people on that trail after the Mirador. Cant wait to see more. Thanks Romain
I am not sure about that. The river looks bigger here and the rocks are placed quite differently, especially the big ones are missing on picture 508. In addition you can notice the rock of the mountain behind Kris on the picture. Here it looks like there is much more vegetation. Also the direction of the path looks different to me.
@@APEX4LIEN as I said I am not sure about this. to me the surroundings at that river just do not look like it is the place on the photo. but photo 505 was 100% taken after the mirador. you can see the loction in part 1 at around 4:13. the stone on the ground makes it obvious, also in other videos showing the route it is even more similar to the photo 505. this means that they took the path after the mirador at least up to photo 505. but probably they went further and probably im wrong about the river.
For the videos, I plan to show the trail up to the first monkey-bridge. However, I might have some files missing but I will be sure when I finish editing some parts.
I just know about this few days ago, amazing videos, I'm not finished it but I'm already see it's a very danger place even for a master tourists, I'm even cannot see anything more then 10m in front, all is same and it's very easy to lost a way out
Ich denke ,das die Mädchen nach dem ersten Fluss zurückgegangen sind. Dort wurde das letzte Foto von Kris gemacht. Am 2. Fluss gab es kein Foto mehr. Könnten die Mädchen an dem 1. Fluss falsch abgebogen sein um zurück zum Mirador zu kommen? Ich glaube nicht, das sie den path weitergelaufen sind. Sonst hätten sie bestimmt am 2. Fluss auch ein Foto gemacht.
Its just amazing how detailed you are documenting all of this. It literally has forensic quality i would say. In my opinion the location of foto 508 would be very important. Because i am sure: that not long after 508 the girls went lost. The reason why i think that: on their whole trip on 1th April, the biggest timegap between 2 fotos was around 40 minutes. As far i know Image 508 was taken 1:54pm. That means for me, at least around 2:30 pm they should have make another foto of interest. But they didnt. There is two explainations for that in my opinion 1) they felt lost already at 2:30 pm , and therefore they didnt found any reason to make fotos anymore ... 2) at 2:30 pm they both tried to head back again, and didnt noticed that they were lost until around 4:40 pm when they made their first emergency call. Regardless whats the case - one thing is for sure: at least around 2:30 pm the sightseeing-trip was over, and they didnt found any reason to make fotos. Now, if we assume that the image 508 was taken at the "last known location" , that location is only around 30-40 minutes away from the paddocks (which are definetely worth to fotograf, comparing what other unimportant fotos they made that day) . The fact that they didnt made fotos from the paddock means: that they were on a different trail. Most people think that the location of 508 is known ... but i dont think so. The one thing which is sure is: the river. But i am sure, they crossed that river on a different spot. Whenever i saw video footage about the 508 location, not one single stone resembles the stones of 508. Now i know, that the common saying is : that in the rain season, the riverbed changes, and also stones getting washed away, etc... Sure i can imagine that for smaller stones, but few of those stones are 200 kilograms and more and are quiet deep in that soil. Sorry, but no - that heavy stones i dont believe water can wash away that easy. At least few stones should stay in place .. but none of those stones in the video footages (yours included) resembling the 508 image stones. Your video footage is very important nevertheless! Because ruling out spots of image 508 is also very important. Also if we can accept that image 508 is already taken more downstream, or upstream that river , we also would better understand, why it could have been much harder to find the trail back to El Mirador! To find the exact location of image 508 is key, in my opinion. I even think, from all the information we have meanwhile, its could be possible to find the area where the nightshots were taken. Because we know were Kris Jeans was found. Therefore the spot were Kris died only can be more upstream. And because the nightshots are indicating, that the girls didnt want, or cant move anymore (you only make a SOS-sign out of paper if you are not going to leave that place anymore), we can safely say: that the spot were the nightshot was is very likely upstream the spot were Kris Jeans was found. My gutfeeling is saying, the 508 image is already a bit more downhill from the spot where you was in this video. And between that point , downhill, and Kris Jeans, there have to be the spot of the nightshots somewere. Fortunately the stones of the nightshots are also quiet big , and we know their shape. Its hard, but not impossible to spot them, i think. Maybe we find the spot in 10 years, or so. But its possible to find. And i think there are still remains of Lisanne and Kris there (Metal earrings for instance doesnt get washed away by water). So there is a chance that even after all these years, with a metal detector some remains could be found of that incident. Sure, the probability is almost zero.. but its not impossible. Your video footages are extremely important, in my opinion. And you deserve much more subscribers! Unlike other people, who are relying on inventing new informations by concluding new information out of old information, you are generating new information with real efford - camera footage, drone footage etc.. Those are very small informations, and mostly they seem to prove: that they werent there... but its still important informations , because they are real informations, not made up things. I salute you for your efford!
Look photo attentively! It is not SOS-sign. Буква "S" замечательно тем, что если ее перевернуть, то вы всё-равно получите букву "S". И точно ли мы видимо слово "SOS"?????? Возможно, буква "S" стоит в последнем положении (last position) - [anything letter]-S. Если посмотреть внимательно, то концы ближайшей буквы (ends of the near letter) сходятся в одном центре. В случае с голландским алфавитом (Nederlands alfabet) будет всего три возможных варианта: K, R, X. Тогда (then) получаются 3 варианта. 1) K-[anything]-S; 2) R-[anything]-S; 3) X-[anything]-S. Буква между буквами (letter between letters) , которую закрывает лямка (strap), возможно (probably) "I" letter. Тогда (then) получается: 1) K-I-S; 2) R-I-S; 3) X-I-S. Самая подходящая комбинация букв: R-I-S, так как она входит в имя одной из девушек, а именно k-RIS. Буква (letter) "K", судя по всему была изготовлена из двух красных пакетов (two red packets) и ветки (a branch).
Bei dem Bild 508 ist auch ein Pfad, der abknickt zu sehen. Nicht nur auf die Steine im Fluss schauen. Hier in YT gibt es ein Bild der Flussquerung mit Steinen und den Pfad zeigt.
I think 16.39pm first call for help and daylight changing sunset and darkness gave them horrors they never experienced. First night must have been living hell
@Romain C, can we identify GPS coordinates for the river crossing at minute 26:00, please? And approximately how many minutes is it from the Mirador? Thank you.
Yes, GPS will still work without service. The best way to do this is to download a trail/map before you set out. Then you can still follow it and know where you are without service. Mike, Alltrails have a topo map of this trail, if you want to get an idea of where the streams are. It’s free, but if you look on your phone it may nag you to sign up.
No problem, here it is ;) : 8.84242, -82.42500 . It's difficult to talk about the timing because it depends of your speed, but I would say it's 25-40 minutes from the Mirador.
This is a really cool route and video, but why did you turn off the sound and cover the faces of people you met? May I ask your motives for such actions?
I noticed when he takes photos, its in the places the girls couldve gone off path or where the girls couldve fallen, that in mind there is a lot. I can see how either K or L got their first injury not long after photo 508
Agree. She might have slipped when putting back the camera. Otherwise there would have been some photos after the crossing. Doesn't K look a bit worried or concerned at the photo? But why didn't they turn back, or at least stayed on the trail? It's a mystery. Like if they short after 508 went right into full panic or survival mode.
Some people say they went on this trail looking for a waterfall. At 24:00 he reaches a creek. I wonder if they decided to hike along the creek and got lost there.
00:53 - 01:06; 12:14 very dangerous parts of the trail in my opinion... And I hike a lot in the last 30 years.. If you look in 01:23 to the left you can see the degree of inclination that you could fall to the right... . 19:31 lots of people for a such remote trail .... 33:15. And if the girls got lost and followed such fence until reach the river Culebra. This would explain why search teams didin't found the girls on the trails.... Knowing that they were lost they tried to follow the fence to reach some farm.... Its possible... Maybe the girls made they first 911 calls after seeing this fence. 39:12 good place to get lost...
They weren t lost you can see there s only one trail you simply turn back and walk all the way back to mirador. It's not a hard trail. I belieave they were abducted. And they didn t call 112 at the 33:15 fence, but about 2 hours and half after 27:00. They could be anywhere at that time. 38:43 this area is open field so you can get definitely get lost here, but hey it's pretty scarry to keep goin there expect if you plan to set up a camp, you are litteraly crossing another mountain.
The sad thing is: there´s no 911 in Panama. The number was adopted for ambulance services to make believe when they were trying to sell the idea as something bigger. Basically lying. It is not by any means a real 911 system with the structure to provide Fire/Police, caller ID, etc.. To do that, it would require total restructuring of the phone company and street nomenclature, which at the time nobody cares. It´s only a regular land line. So they died dialing a fake number
Это не оборудованная для туристов тропа. Нет указателей, нет перил для поддержки, не убраны камни с пути. Поэтому нельзя считать эту тропу туристическим маршрутом. Туристам нельзя ходить по ней, даже с гидом. Это только для местного населения.
You could argue the point if the path wasn’t very clear through this trail even under wet conditions the path through is pritty much mapped out and you could argue at times on this trail that it really looks harder too get lost rather than walk on some sort of trail
In your opinion , after hiking are there opportunities to get lost? Is it dangerous?, at the summit, is it possible to get confused and think your returning but instead you are continuing on? How often ppl pass by. if someone's hurt how long till they find him? Can someone fall there from a hight?
@@alisek4441 I would get lost too... but I would never go there with only one female friend.... atleast two male guys, a lot of food and clothes and a satellite phone lol...
Siguiendo el sendero a los 24 minutos de este video es la posible localización de fotos 507 y 508, no se por que no se menciona. Más adelante hay una 3era corriente-quebrada que dada su apariencia es obvio que no fue fotografiada. En 2014 en el video de respuestas para Kris se muestra estos dos sitios. No se si no se capta que muestra dos lugares y no uno.
In einem anderen Video, hier in RU-vid, ist der Standort von Bild 507 und 508 dokumentiert und festgehalten. Ab diesem Punkt muss es passiert sein. Egal was.
Si tu caminando despacio lo hiciste en 39 minutos, ellas lo habrán hecho en 30 si suponemos que llegaron al final del tramo y comenzaron a correr en dirección al mirador espantadas por algo antes de llamar a emergencias a las 16 y 39, entonces corrieron 10 minutos antes de llamar, hay que volver el video al minuto 20 porqué alli aprox hicieron la llamada...
See even this bloke after all these years after on this trail he’s bumped into one local making his way on the trail the other way So your saying that these girls according to the camera and phones were on this trail Cld have been lossed or injured and within say nearly a week the girls never bumped into anybody on the trail that would have stopped and help them dnt add up does it U can clearly see this blokes on his own doing the trail and not even a full day along it look he’s passed at least one local who looking at him passing seems quite tidy too have a chat for 5mins
Did you come across any man made looking cave like the picture that one of the girls is standing in front of leaned over(kris) ? I think that that’s the most erie picture for me and it seems things stop shortly after that. I also wonder if it was on the trail or off the trail because to me for something to be man made like a hang out spot wouldn’t be on the trail itself. Thanks for the videos, it gives a perspective on what their hike looked like.
24:04 looks more like it I think when you compare it to their picture. In part 3 at 09:06 you can see another stream. But that looks wider. And 34:57 looks to small.
Thank you very much for this video! Here I look at the stream and there is a strong feeling that this is not the right crossing. I understand that many years have passed, but the main terrain cannot change like that. The girls in the photo have a large height difference, water pours from a hill. And here the stream just turns sharply from left to right. It seems to me that Chris and Lisanne were not on the main path. With gratitude from Russia.
Thank you !! I agree that the stream crossings look very much different, but 508 must be on the trail. The parents hiked that same trail, and found 508. So it's certainly there. Also, during the first expedition, we didn't find anything that could match the picture outside the trail.
@@Romain_C Thanks! The terrain has changed over the years. What if there is another parallel path with another crossing over the stream? I always assume that the girls after photo 508 turned onto the path to some kind of waterfall. And their bones are there.
@@user-xu9yb7op8y 508 must be on the main trail because you can see it on the video of the parents, and we didn't find any parallel path (except rivers themselves).
. Il y clairement des endroits sur ce sentier où il y a des pentes assez importantes au bord et desquelles on peut chuter. . On voit bien aussi à quel point il suffit de rentrer dans la forêt de quelques mètres pour ne ne rien reconnaitre quand on se retourne. Pour moi c'est flagrant , on peut vraiment être désorienté très facilement si on fait l'erreur de s'éloigner du sentier et de rentrer dans la forêt. . A partir de 24:00, on est sur le lieu de la dernière photo du 1 er Avril, la photo 508. C'est émouvant. Et ça doit faire quelquechose de se trouver exactement à l'endroit d'où Lisanne à pris cette photo de Kriss. . Après cette photo, rien ne prouve que les filles ont continué sur le sentier. Elles ont pu décider de suivre la rivière rio mamei, dont je remarque qu'elle coule vers l'Ouest et qu'elle rejoint des kilomètres plus loin le Rio culebra. Donc, à la saison des pluies, quand la rivière se gonfle, elle peut charrier pas mal de chose qui finiraient pas aboutir dans le Rio Culebra. . Autre question : ou se trouve la cascade cachée par rapport à cet endroit ? . Si elles ont repéré cette histoire de cascade cachée en préparant très vite leur journée, alors elles ont pu penser que elle devait se trouver sur ce cours d'eau (Rio mamei) , d'autant que je crois me souvenir que c'était censé être pas trop loin du mirador. Moi j'ai le sentiment qu'elles ont voulu y aller. Je ne crois pas qu'elles aient voulu aller au pont de singe même si c'est attirant car je pense qu'elles avaient vu les distances et le temps nécessaire pour y aller donc pour en revenir. Je pense qu'elle voulait aller à la cascade cachée , puis revenir sur Bokete. Donc si je suis mon idée, logiquement, elles auraient du aller vers l'Est, c'est à dire remonter la rivière en supposant qu'à un moment, elle tomberait sur une cascade. . Ça explique aussi qu'elles ont cessé de faire des photos puisque l'eau et l'électronique ne font pas bon ménage. Et par ailleurs, on est plus sur un sentier mais on marche dans ou au bord de la rivière. Donc on est en permanence en déséquilibre ce qui ne laisse pas vraiment le temps de faire des photos.
It's impossible to get lost on this pianist's trail, as most of the way is through a trench. At relatively short intervals, we always see other people using the trail, there are houses nearby, some places are pasture for cattle, where certainly the owners always go to pick up or leave their animals. If the girls had continued beyond photo locations 507 and 508, they would have continued taking pictures, and if they had gone back, they would have taken pictures as well. The fact that they didn't do this within 6 days of the disappearance, to me, is proof that the camera and cell phones were not under the control of the girls. Note: It is very likely that the place for the night photos is on the Quetzal Trail and not on the pianist's trail! Or they were made on some path that connects the Pianist Trail with the Quetzal Trail.
IF … the girls were on the trail, they got as far as the stream and then turned back. The photos as presented, are out of order. You can see that one carries the backpack up, while the other carries it on the way back. The same for their hair. It was down, on both girls on the way up. On the way down, the were hot, and their hair was pulled up to stay cool. The photos were heavily photoshopped. Juan proved that in his videos. The missing, tell tale photo was deleted. Probably showed that they had returned, or, my even have shown the perpetrators. This was, no doubt, a horrific crime! I pray for these girls every day. No one should have ever had to go through something so sinister! Most of the perpetrators are dead! Most! Vigilante justice?
@@march1326 I still haven't watched the video you talk about which is proof that the order of the photos has been changed. The perception I have is that the photos are in the correct order, but the moment of each photo (time) may have been tampered with. I also believe that photo 509 may have been deleted by the police themselves, as such a photo must deconstruct the idea of an accident. Discover something interesting in the night shots, but I'll argue that with Scarlet soon.
Thanks for posting the video Romain. So you passed two people already on the the trail? Hard to imagine Kris and Lisanne not passing anyone that day they disappeared especially it being a week day and good weather. The locals have work to do I think in Boquete, and use this trail often. So it makes me think they would have spotted the women or run into them at the very least as you do. I also noted that there seems quite a bit of overgrowth, the path looks more worn down and a lot of the rocks have been moved. I'm not surprised given how long it's been so I expect it to be very different. Kris and Lisanne had good weather and maybe their path was not as obstructed. At 38:28 I find it very difficult to imagine that if Kris and Lisanne did come to this point then they would not have taken a photo of this vista point. They had nice sunny weather too. They didn't make the best of photos, but Lisanne seemed keen on documenting her views. So I expected them to take a few more, like you may be doing not just for your research but you find something of interest here and there. Overall, this is the same path Kris and Lisanne took and made it to the first river without any problem. Not that difficult then or scary as everyone who hasn't gone there and hiked keeps telling me. 😉 Looking forward to your next segment of the trail. Good work Romain!
Thank you! Actually, that day I met 4 more people (but it was a family) and I heard something like a chainsaw. The locals don't live there, they work in their much further away or they come from Alto Romero to buy their food in Boquete (it's cheaper than in Chiriqui Grande). For 38:28, I totally agree. However, I'm not sure it was like that in 2014. I have been told it was cut a long time ago, but they couldn't tell me when. When I see a video of river 3 in 2014, it appears to me it might have been covered of vegetation. Locals clear some areas for the cattle.
I think that Lisanne broke her leg, twisting it on those uncomfortable stones, tried to walk on her own for a while, but her leg hurt more and more. They called the rescue service. All that was left was to go on our own. They knew that climbing the mirador was a very difficult path for a broken leg. We saw houses on the map and decided to continue our way down to the people for help. Perhaps, indeed, they spent the night in that abandoned hut.
@@user-xu9yb7op8y That's possible that Lisanne hurt her leg, and maybe they spent the night somewhere, but their phone logs do not indicate this sort of urgency of two inexperienced young women. And where exactly did Lisanne break her leg? And how far can one even walk with a broken leg? On this trail? I don't think so. It's also very easy to say they just spent the night somewhere, when everyone keeps saying how scary the "jungle" is during the day, so imagine what it would be like at night for these two young women?! I also think if Lisanne broke leg and they stayed overnight, they would not be too far from the trail. Kris would have been able to go for help back on the trail they came from, and we already seen Romain pass people by, just like many others like Victor Hugo and Kris's parents pass people and cattle. Someone would spot them or at least Kris if she went to get help.
Estudiando bien las jóvenes creo que las fotografías eran parte de sus vidas entonces creo que se hubieran tomados fotos incluso cuando andaban perdidas y también vídeos así que esto fue un asesinato ..tiene que ser de alguien de ese sector que las vio pasar y ejecuto..
You have many kind of animals in the area. Jaguars of course, but also snakes, wild pigs and monkeys (+ others like ocelot, tinamou and crabs). However, it's very rare to meet them. Jaguars are afraid of humans, and most animals actually come to life during the night. Of course, they are active during the day but it's much less likely for you to see them.
@@feliciahilaski7677 attacks by big cat predators on humans are almost non-existant in Panama. Less than 5 deaths in more than 100 years. It does not happen
They walked the trail came back from the trail they'll were seen by the locals it was a conspiracy by a gang known as los cinco one of the 5 was felisianos son these girls were abducted they were held captive assaulted then killed their organs were sold I believe this theory they never were lost never!!!
24:17 Probably it is another place. Big stone on the right side after creek is absent on original photo. Also on original photo footpath goes after creek: right=>forward=>left=>up!!! Yes, 8-9 years later actions, but...
"there is NO way" well, if you fell & injure yourself & making yourself less mobile, realizing you're literally fucked. Then you might have a different viewpoint.
@@SwissMarksman if they would have fallen and injured themselves in that stretch, then they would have been found!!! How is it that you don't get that? This is a stretch where people pass by daily. (Or perhaps you didn't understand that people pass by daily?) Yes, I agree with Avgrim77: in that stretch, the trail is self explanatory. They didn't get lost in the stretch between Mirador and River 3.
Bon, effectivement il y a quelques bifurcations mais on en revient toujours à la même problématique....QUI irait intentionnellement prendre un embranchement hasardeux alors que le chemin principal est davantage visible ? .....à moins de tenter de fuir quelque-chose....
Se as pessoas são irresponsáveis suficiente para entrar em uma selva sem um guia o que as impediria de sair da trilha principal e se perderem? Elas subiram a montanha para procurar uma "cachoeira perdida" como não a encontraram na trilha principal é bem possível que elas tenham seguido trilhas aleatórias procurando a tal cachoeira!
Je suis d'accord. Dans ce contexte, ça ne fait pas tellement sens. Sur place, on voit très bien ce qui est un chemin ou non. Et ce que l'on voit sur la vidéo, je trouve que la caméra exagère les traits. Après, je me demande à quoi ça ressemble pendant la saison sèche.
@@Romain_C En tous cas, même avec d’eventuelles déformations optiques, ce chemin/sentier ne m’impressionnerait pas en tant que randonneur....mais j’avoue que la présence du fameux serpent " "bushmaster ", particulièrement venimeux, paraît il, me gâcherait pas mal la vie ! ...même si je ne le voit pas !
This trial is not hard to walk lol just a walk in the park... its just one path. If you get lost here. Your the dumbest moron on the planet lol unless you go off the path. But thats something that know one would do...
Drinkgame.....everytime he make a foto =1 shoot.... have fun (ok really the pics of girls show the came untile the river all befor that is 100% not important, just after the last pic on the river ...the really intressting part starts.......somehow it annoying me that it looks like he think the girls could jump every hill down what they could see... i mean he self dont fall everycorner down too...
The crime scene is on Quetzal Trail, that's where the girls were taken and killed. The account of the French couple Boris and Edith, is the best explanation for the disappearance of the Dutch. The solution to this case is to investigate the version given by the French couple!!! Someone should make a video of the Quetzal Trail, I believe there must be cliffs there from which people can be forcibly thrown.
Что все время фоткает автор?я не пойму!везде кусты трава и грязь!А то что девчонок из Голландии убили,я вообще не сомневаюсь!и это сделали местные жители(нелюди),которых прикрыли местные власти..,(может родственнички),но это лично мое предположение!
Look at 36:27 to 36:31 There are some remains of people maybe you find the Wick Bonbon paper left on the ground 38:17 a piece of clothes with stripes If you have discord give me you Name i think i found some Locations
