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F150 2018 The truth behind the engine and powertrain options.
At 4:09 - Ford is the last of the big three to bring a diesel to the light duty pick-up segment.
At 5:44 - should be 18/23/20 mpg, in metric 13.1/10.2/11.8 L/100km.
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@chrismiller1339
@chrismiller1339 6 лет назад
Already have 100k on the 2.7 eco and Averaged 22.8mpg in 100k miles. Unbelievable. Problem free. Love it!
@mikecorleone6797
@mikecorleone6797 5 лет назад
Meanwhile I’m still rocking my 90 F250 7.3 turbo diesel... almost 30 years old 881,000 miles and still hauls my 5th wheel no problem.. 🇺🇸
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 5 лет назад
Sweet!
@mikecorleone6797
@mikecorleone6797 5 лет назад
4WD Magazine they don’t make them like they used to 😔
@BadWolf762
@BadWolf762 5 лет назад
I'm rockin a 2002 F-250 7.3 turbo diesel that is barley broke in with 108,000 miles. No rust and almost showroom condition.
@joesmith482
@joesmith482 4 года назад
881,000 miles. That’s bad ass!!
@kelliegrase4658
@kelliegrase4658 4 года назад
Nice 👍🏿
@dcsnick1
@dcsnick1 6 лет назад
I never owed a ford until 2017. Always bought Chevy, but never again. Love my F150 with 3.5 eco.
@williamalanschulz
@williamalanschulz 4 года назад
Love my 3.3l. Its actually got balls you wouldnt know until you drove it
@davidilijevski8942
@davidilijevski8942 4 года назад
Hows it on fuel
@williamalanschulz
@williamalanschulz 4 года назад
David Ilijevski it does well, i actually get 18+ mpg and i dont drive slow
@davidilijevski8942
@davidilijevski8942 4 года назад
@@williamalanschulz nice i prefer something like that i dont like turbos and prefer basic reliability.
@Anth230
@Anth230 4 года назад
Same here. I love mine. I get 22 mpg on City driving. But I drive like a granny and time the lights....😂😂
@davidilijevski8942
@davidilijevski8942 4 года назад
@@Anth230 what about highway? Do u have crewcab 4x4
@edlococo4106
@edlococo4106 6 лет назад
In my opinion, the 5.0L V-8 is the way to go. Naturally aspirated and still puts out 360H.P. That is what I have in my 2014. The Ecoboost engine spells trouble later in the life of the truck. A twin turbo on a V-6 will overwork the engine. And on top of that, people that don't know better will treat in like a race car. Being an auto tech for over thirty years, I had my day in the sun racing around town. The days of V-8's and carbs with 4 on the floor. Today I want dependability and simplicity. I believe the 5.0 L is the way to go.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Valid comments. I like what you're saying about how the Eco will be driven. I'm always wary of buying a used sports car or sport bike for the same reason.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 6 лет назад
Ed Lococo But I've heard the 2nd Gen ebs are pretty reliable.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 6 лет назад
Not at all. The 5.0 is a capable heavy tower and it will last a lot longer.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 6 лет назад
Tommy Truth The 5.0 is a beast, but they updated the 3.5 so it Bo longer has the direct injection issues among other things so that engine should also be pretty reliable.
@greasemonkeybd
@greasemonkeybd 5 лет назад
agree fuck that eco-hoax
@Thesupersmith79
@Thesupersmith79 6 лет назад
I get 21 MPG with my 2015 5.0 (highway and 18 MPG mixed driving) and it hauls my 4 place enclosed snowmobile trailer (7,700 lbs) like a boss! I would recommend the 5.0 to anyone looking at the F-150 over any of those 6 cylinder junks
@joelkeyes5611
@joelkeyes5611 6 лет назад
what size tires and what brand do you have
@rodneystuder
@rodneystuder 4 года назад
I average 20.5 in my 2019 f150 5.0 4 door 4x4
@warcraftarenas8770
@warcraftarenas8770 6 лет назад
Great video bro. Good pace, good info, calm & collect. Cant ask for anything more.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Thanks for the props - really appreciate the feedback.
@davidstg2
@davidstg2 6 лет назад
Really good video. This channel is going to grow quickly.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Thanks David. It always seems to take a lot more work than I expect it to.
@V8Supercar1
@V8Supercar1 6 лет назад
God I hate auto start stop bull crap. All it is. Is unnecessary extra wear and tear.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Thank the emissions regulations for that feature.
@FrankyRedEyes
@FrankyRedEyes 6 лет назад
4WD Magazine wait till 'cafe' standards kick in. The Ram hemi is on the chopping block at the end of 2018 model year and every truck will someday be a hybrid or full on electric.
@KJBPSkipper
@KJBPSkipper 6 лет назад
V8Supercar1 Its horrible!!I agree 100%!! I will just buy older cars and trucks until they are not available or I get to old to drive,I dont care much for where the industry is heading.
@V8Supercar1
@V8Supercar1 6 лет назад
Hopefully president Trump will relax some of our cafe standards. Although it might not be necessary. Im glad he already withdrew us from that obsurd Paris climate agreement. We all care about the environment, but somethings are just too extreme.
@sylviawebber5561
@sylviawebber5561 6 лет назад
KJBPSkipper m
@alltraxx7499
@alltraxx7499 6 лет назад
No offense,but if your planning on pulling 8000lbs with a half ton pick-up very often,no engine or transmission combination will last very long! Those of us that pull 8000lbs on a regular basis knows that's not a load for any half ton pick up
@williamrage6225
@williamrage6225 6 лет назад
Exactly. Weekend warrior sure but I wouldn't use it for heavy vocational use.
@deancooney3226
@deancooney3226 6 лет назад
The problem lies in the manufacturers specs for towing, people think because they own a F350 or 3500 series truck they can tow the moon behind them, not to mention the people that buy little 1/2 ton and want to tow 10-12k lbs. Just try to get those loads under control WHEN things get a little crazy. The driving training centers and insurance companies should make it mandatory for people to have trailer towing 101, because most of these people out here are over confident in their trucks ability to safely control the loads that they are rated for and when problems arise they don't know what to do and people get hurt or killed because your truck not TRACTOR says you "can tow" 25k lbs doesn't mean it's safe to on public roads without endangering others on the road if you haven't had proper training. Oh, and all trucks built now seem to be disposable cash holes, they are changing them every year not to stay fresh but so they can confuse us with the less stinky pile of shit, I'm not sure on this one but I would think that one pile tastes as bad as the other. Don't buy either or any pile of shit, buy an old truck you love and put $10-15k into it and you'll have a old reliable, durable truck that will be able to drive better than a Raptor. I can't believe those words reliable and durable can still be said today but you can only seem to relate them to the good old days.
@kingdaniel3519
@kingdaniel3519 6 лет назад
Exactly. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
@dutchboy25al
@dutchboy25al 6 лет назад
The f150 lacks the mass and braking power to pull these loads.
@casper24ism
@casper24ism 6 лет назад
Dean Cooney lol your a fool!
@fruitmonsta1809
@fruitmonsta1809 6 лет назад
Skip the 5.0? I'm sorry but I have to disagree there. The 5.0 should be the ONLY choice for anyone serious about having a truck that will be used for longterm towing and hauling. The simplicity and proven design give the 5.0 an almost guaranteed work life of 200,000 with proper maintenance. As others have mentioned, the dealership I used to work at had ecoboosts in for mid to serious engine work all the time - never once did I see a 5.0 or even the old 6.2 in for work. Also, you can thank the lack of turbos for the "sluggish" feel. Add a single turbo to the 5.0 and it would be running low 12s and possibly high 11s easily and vastly out-tow the ecoboost. Boosted, low displacement engines are not a long term solution in the full-size truck market and we have already begun to see the consequences of high boost take effect.
@fruitmonsta1809
@fruitmonsta1809 6 лет назад
Marty Beaudry Mechanical engineer specializing in automotive...you?
@fruitmonsta1809
@fruitmonsta1809 6 лет назад
Marty Beaudry Sure thing, buddy
@MrRockymountainking
@MrRockymountainking 6 лет назад
FruitMonsta180 .i just bought a 2017 f150 with a 5.0 .i love it,great fuel mileage and lots of get up and go.so fun to drive.
@fruitmonsta1809
@fruitmonsta1809 6 лет назад
john doe You'll love it. 17,500 miles later on mine and it's the vehicle I've owned to date. Mileage is great considering it's a V8 making almost 400 horsepower.
@ratbrain7743
@ratbrain7743 6 лет назад
I bought a 2017 f150 5.0. I talked to four long term ford mechanics that said they would go with a 5.0. Only the salesmen were pushing the 3.5 and they didnt know a spark plug from a waterpump. My 5.0 has all the power anybody will ever need.
@mrthunderbird5
@mrthunderbird5 5 лет назад
Thank you 🙏 for the info . I’m now subscribed , so keep them coming 👏 👍
@R777-RLM
@R777-RLM 6 лет назад
4WD Magazine. To advise skipping the V8 is a bit short sighted. Few people tow 8,000lb's often, but if you do, Ford advises the V8 for frequent heavy towing. Also, if you plan on keeping your truck long term, the V8's lack of complex Twin Turbo's, intercoolers, as well as extra coolant plumbing for the Turbo's, will add up to a more reliable, lower maintenance engine, and with lower intake temperatures, and combustion pressures than a Turbo engine, the V8 will have better longevity. All that, and mileage very close to the Turbo's, this is the engine to choose. Yes, you give up the Turbo's quickness, but when your truck reaches 150,000 miles, you'll be thankful for that NA V8, still running strong.
@immortallyinsane3945
@immortallyinsane3945 6 лет назад
ron mortensen completely Tru and I am a mechanic repair costs and reliability easily choose 5liter hands down
@chudykGT
@chudykGT 5 лет назад
The same argument works for the 3.3 (or NA 3.5 in the 15-17, 3.7 in the 11-14) A quad cam VVT motor isnt as simple as the old push rod motors, but are less complex for sure than the turbo motors. Few people with full size trucks are towing 5000#s regularly, never mind 8k. Look at Fords motors from 10 years ago, like the 4.0 V6 in the Ranger, and 4.6 2V (or 3v for that matter). Plenty of work was done by trucks with those motors. Todays XL work truck outperforms most of those, and its deemed insufficient lol.
@kgot7436
@kgot7436 5 лет назад
A turbo really isnt all that complex......
@austinjohnston3403
@austinjohnston3403 5 лет назад
I agree with you, ppl don’t understand that turbo engines just don’t last as long, I know bc I own a 2011 3.5 eco boost. I had problems with it every 5k miles. The timing chain went dead after 40k miles, which turned into a 5 grand fix...the maintenance costs are ridiculous for the ecoboost. Also the gas mileage numbers are crap. My mpg was 14 on a good day, that turbo eats gas for breakfast under acceleration, you only get good numbers under highway conditions, making the ecoboost a bad choice for city driving, I recently bought a 2018 5.0 and I love it, much better being naturally aspirated 👍🏼
@rodneystuder
@rodneystuder 4 года назад
Thank you. There's so many dudes on here that have no idea how a combustion engine alone works much less the additions of both port/direct injection. They believe because a 5.0 is in the mustang this must be a car engine. Truth is Ford totally remapped this engine with other components to bring the high torque numbers down to a 3800 rmp range for Max power. There's nothing wrong with sitting at 3800 rpm in this engine while towing heavier loads up hills. Don't let me get started with the newer Ford PTWA technology in how they coat the walls of the cylinders making these cylinder walls last and last and last meanwhile being much lighter than a cast iron sleeve. The coyote v8 is an excellent tower just tows a little differently than an ecoboost. The naturally aspirated bigger displacement engine will always reign king of towing. What these people don't realize is Ford and other companies are pushing these turbo charged motors down their throats due to government regulations and also the amount of money they have invested in the engineering. They don't want to flop and not sell these things. They started out slow sells until all the so called experts starting making videos on how great the ecoboost is. I'm not saying I hate them but come on people if you've driven both that 5.0 may take a split second longer to start sitting you back in your seat but when it does it plants you there. The v8 will always be the way to go on a light duty towing truck.
@jamespalmer9556
@jamespalmer9556 6 лет назад
These prices are rediculous! How did we get to 40k / 50k / - 60&70k is lunacy! $40,000 for a truck is assualt!
@zzanatos2001
@zzanatos2001 6 лет назад
I looked at a 2018 Ford Raptor yesterday. $70,000 sticker price - then the dealer tinted the windows, added a 6" lift and custom wheels and raised the price to $90.000. Insane!
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 5 лет назад
It is all the amateurs in the truck market today. They are driving up the prices.
@williamisabell9539
@williamisabell9539 5 лет назад
It's called "Ego Boost". And as long as they keep paying for them they'll keep selling them with more and more gimmicks, pricing the working man into older and older trucks.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 лет назад
Just wait. Who's going to be the first truck-maker to break the 100 grand sticker price?
@estebahng5964
@estebahng5964 5 лет назад
Right ! 55 k for the one I looked at . I'm going keep my 2008 Chevy and rebuild motor next year 5.3 or put 6.2 in there.
@ES-pr8bt
@ES-pr8bt 4 года назад
They have had some oil burning issues with the 2018 5 litres. WTH did they do to this engine in 2018? These engines were always a great engine.
@andrewiida3802
@andrewiida3802 3 года назад
This is a great review. Proud 2.7 owner
@48Ballen
@48Ballen 6 лет назад
After asking mechanics in multiple FORD dealerships what their opinion of the best engine for a 150 was, 100% said 5.0 liter. I bought my new 150 with the 5.0 and could not be happier. It has tremendous acceleration, it is smooth, not overstressed, great mileage and I expect to get 250K miles from it. Boosting tiny engines to get big horsepower is what Indy cars do.....they last for a whole race...maybe.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
I believe turbo charger technology has come a long way since the eighties, nineties and now 2000's. They get the same warranty as non-turbo's and everybody id building them.
@sdrake74
@sdrake74 6 лет назад
Byron Allen ive had. 5.0 and i have the 3.5 eco... the ecoboost smokes the 5.0.. its a monster i love it. i also still have the triton 5.4 w 260000 miles ... the eco is the best out of all three
@phil2856
@phil2856 5 лет назад
I have to agree; a 5 liter should be standard for a truck this size. If driven properly, not hard, fuel consumption should be reasonable. Plus, the power is there when needed.
@TheSaintshockey03
@TheSaintshockey03 5 лет назад
Maybe so but longer oil change intervals at 10,000 miles will wear these engines out and repair costs will be high...... The owners manual isnt written to make engine last longer, it written for lower owner maint costs while under warranty..... They're in the business of selling vehicles not making them last 300,000 miles...
@jtcj11
@jtcj11 5 лет назад
@@phil2856 I had a 2015 5.0 and switched to the 2017 2.7. Both trucks are crew cabs, and both are 4x4 either can tow anything I want. The 2.7 though averages 4 more mpg in town and 4 more mpg on the highway.
@jimh527
@jimh527 6 лет назад
I got the 3.3l 4x4. Don't pull 8000 lb. trailers and don't have a problem, if you know how to drive. Its got more horsepower than my '93 Trans Am had. Way better truck than my '05 f-150 2x. And about 700 lbs. lighter. Did I mention I paid 25 grand.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Nice, thanks for commenting.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 5 лет назад
That 3.3l has the same horsepower that V8's had in the past. If you don't tow anything heavy, it is one fine engine. Put it in sport mode and you will get a speeding ticket before you know it.
@pulsarflair
@pulsarflair 6 лет назад
Very informative review, thanks for all the details.
@magicsashplaysmc4636
@magicsashplaysmc4636 4 года назад
Does stop start damage your engine? I’ve heard it can cause premature engine wear
@pulsarflair
@pulsarflair 6 лет назад
"only an 8000lb trailer" dude it's a half ton 😂😂😂 also not a chance it's going to get 30mpg
@yoddy0
@yoddy0 6 лет назад
marlin gast i was thinking the exact same thing. The average person wont even tow more then 4000 lbs
@zzgeorgezdane8559
@zzgeorgezdane8559 5 лет назад
I prefer to use 3/4 truck for anything above 6k.
@tedschmitt178
@tedschmitt178 4 года назад
Not while towing, but I got 30 mpg with my '16 F-150 and 2.7EB.
@tongafuponga3258
@tongafuponga3258 4 года назад
@@yoddy0 ive towed over 6k with small suv wagged hard loaded all wrong
@tongafuponga3258
@tongafuponga3258 4 года назад
@@tedschmitt178 We need to see a video of that. Put cruise at 62mph reset trip meter then go 50 miles then report back.
@dontask8979
@dontask8979 4 года назад
Loving my 2019 3.5 EcoBoost
@thomashuteson569
@thomashuteson569 6 лет назад
I like these new V6s and i have seen some of them with over 300.000 miles on them and still going, with minimal repairs-water pump, brakes etc. The milage is what sells them as they get great milage. Nice to see there coming out with a V6 diesel which will pull better and even get better mileage. Although (smile), if it was me, id of kept the inline 300ci six cylinder. When they had fuel injection on them in the 90s in the 4 wheel drive F150 they got over 20 MPG. Here is the part i like best about them, they are easy to work on, anybody with a set of tools can work on them. They were easy to change injectors,tune-up, do a valve job, even do a engine rebuild while the motor was still in the truck (if it didn't need to be bored out for bigger pistons). That is why "i think" they should of kept making them. This was a good video, thanks. Tom in Portland OR where it only rains from sep thru may.
@alltruckfleet
@alltruckfleet 5 лет назад
Axle gear ratio can make a huge difference when pulling a trailer. Most v-8 Ford trucks come a 3.15, 3.31, 3.55 options. The 3.3 v-6 comes with 3.55 or 3.73 options. Ford also puts out what they consider to be the best all-around ratio in any give combination usually favoring fuel economy. The 3.55 Axle ratio for overall general use will give you decent fuel economy along with great towing capabilities. If you do a lot of highway driving, then a lower number (For example, 3.08=higher ratio) will produce better fuel economy. And, a higher number (e.g. 4.10=lower ratio) will work well for driving in stop-n-go traffic. Just depends what you use your truck for most of the time it's driven. I have a 98 Chevy Tahoe with the 5.7, 4 spd. od & 3.08 rear end, stock wheels and tires. It still gets 12-14 mpg. But it is pretty torquey. Turbos are always fun to drive. But the 5.0 does seem to have more potential for gains, with the right upgrades of course.
@mosfishin115
@mosfishin115 6 лет назад
Failed to mention the issues occurring with the two ecoboost engines. There is carbon buildup and overheating transmission pumps that destroy the engines. The V8 is also not sluggish. Not sure where you got that.
@timmyteabag69
@timmyteabag69 6 лет назад
Mo's Fishin true I've had people tell me that Semis have been doing it for years on Diesels and gas and Diesel engines aren't much different well a diesel handles boost a lot better
@DaleHeil-ju2qq
@DaleHeil-ju2qq 6 лет назад
TimmyTeaBag The issue of valve sticking comes from direct injection ,turbo and pcv gasses combined .Not at all similar to diesel engines
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 6 лет назад
I know. Apples and oranges. Gas and diesel.
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 5 лет назад
@Mo's Fishin...not any more. The carbon buildup issue has been fixed since 2017 with the 2nd Gen 3.5 EB with direct AND port injection. And he got the V8 being sluggish by comparing to the 3.5 EB. Don't know why that isn't coming through with people.
@bretbutler6414
@bretbutler6414 4 года назад
The new engines are dual injected [direct and port injected to solve carbon build up]
@slawdawg23
@slawdawg23 5 лет назад
Every comment says the same: 5.0 all the way. I have a '18 5.0 and love it! So happy I got it over the Ecoboost. Im putting in a Whipple, btw. :)
@craigtibbs7832
@craigtibbs7832 4 года назад
Slaw Dawg that’s my plan for my 19
@craigtibbs7832
@craigtibbs7832 4 года назад
My dream ( whipple)
@petrosspetrosgali
@petrosspetrosgali 3 года назад
The thing about the 5.0 is that it’s not a truck engine. I generates its peak torque WAY TOO HIGH in the rev range. That’s why it’s sluggish when loaded down. The little eco boost engines out class the shit out of that sports car engine.
@slawdawg23
@slawdawg23 3 года назад
@@petrosspetrosgali I don't really use it as a truck per se so I don't have this issue. And with my Whipple now, it's fast. Plus it's a short bed.
@drtb69
@drtb69 5 лет назад
I pulled a 8.5' x 6.6' x 27' long v-nose trailer loaded to the gills with lots of auto parts , 2 complete 351w engines, 4 c6 transmissions, crates of tools plus 2 huge gun safes, engine stands, hoists, chains..at least 12,000 pounds plus 4 passengers all our luggage, never skipped a beat , never felt bogged down from Denver to Rapid city., with 6 speed tranny and 3.31 diff gears in my 5.0 2015 super crew f150 4x4 lariat fx4.
@IronCross82
@IronCross82 6 лет назад
Great honest review Thanks
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
We really appreciate the feedback, thank-you.
@316SILENTDEATH
@316SILENTDEATH 5 лет назад
5.0 with factory installed tow package.355 posi,HD trans cooler,HD engine oil cooler plus several other goodies all designed to snatch and sling a trailer all day long
@petrosspetrosgali
@petrosspetrosgali 3 года назад
No. The 5.0 is a sports car engine. All of its power and torque are generated way too high in the rev range to really do any truck stuff.
@infinity3jif
@infinity3jif 6 лет назад
i'll rather have the 5.0, not looking forward to possibly replacing the turbo's later on down the road after the warranty runs out on the eco-boost
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
I hear that from a lot of viewers, but then I just watched a video from a mechanic doing an oil change on a 2.7L ecoboost that hit 200,000 miles and it is a work truck.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 6 лет назад
trigga ville I mean, I've heard from basically everyone, if you get one of the 2nd Gen ebs you're golden for reliability because they basically fixed all the issues the first gen had, carbon buildup being the primary issue they fixed.
@dallasharris8753
@dallasharris8753 5 лет назад
4WD Magazine that may be the case, but I’ve been looking at trucks both new and used, most all used trucks are eco crap that people have traded in for newer ones and v8 trucks tho!!! I concur
@jeremyarant
@jeremyarant 5 лет назад
@@dallasharris8753 I was one such person. Ecoboost is similar to overclocking a cpu. Its neat at first but it eventually catches up with you and when it does its expensive. New turbos, exhaust, timing chain and phasers. Its a known issue on the EcoBoost. I plan to keep mine for a while so I learned my lesson and got a 5.0.
@dallasharris8753
@dallasharris8753 5 лет назад
Jeremy Arant Amen brother, all the new vehicles look nice and shiny on the outside, plus they are expensive too, but basically they are all junk when it comes to repairs!!! I’d rather have old school stuff, at least you know what you have n you fix it reasonably !!!
@chrisbird4341
@chrisbird4341 5 лет назад
I hear the 3.5 ecoboost isn’t reliable mostly because of the turbos. Is the 3.5 v6 naturally aspirated more reliable? It’s standard on the 2017 XL
@dmzflightmedic
@dmzflightmedic 4 года назад
A Family/home property work truck, we have the 2019 F150 4x4, locker and the 3.3L and we love it! I average 23 mpg at 70 mph. I have no need to pull a 10,000 lb trailer but do haul lumber and it does great. The Week we bought our F150 I was standing outside the bay door of our local Ford dealership and I saw two vehicles without an engine and two 2.7L engines on engine stands... both new! NOBODY TALKS ABOUT HOW LONG THESE TURBOS ARE GOING TO LAST. They are still 4cyl and 6cyl engines and you treat them like a V8 and they will not last.
@Mr_Chris77
@Mr_Chris77 6 лет назад
The 3.3 is really an ignored engine and that's a shame. Most people buying a new truck rarely tow and rarely haul anything more than some bags of mulch and a few pieces of lumber. I'm sure there are a ton of people like me that want a lower price point, full size truck with 4wd to get through bad snow storms and tow something maybe twice a year. The 3.3 would be perfect for a lot of people and they don't even realize it. The damn thing will still tow nearly 8,000 lbs. Plus it's naturally aspirated, so no turbos to service. I firmly believe that the 3.3 is the pick of the engine lineup.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
I say the same thing to folks who don't need the power or performance. But then I feel they would be better off with a compact pick-up.
@joeraptor1
@joeraptor1 5 лет назад
Totally agree. I had a chance to test drive the 3.3L in a 2018 F150. Really nice engine...one of the nicest I've driven in a pickup and I've been driving pickups for 30 years. For most people who use the 1/2 ton for basic transportation, it would be more than enough. The onboard fuel economy as calculated by the computer was 12.3L/100 km. Amazing for a big truck.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 5 лет назад
I agree. For many people it is an ideal choice. Put it in sport mode and the thing will snap your head back. And, best of all, no turbos to fail.
@chudykGT
@chudykGT 5 лет назад
@@4WDMagazine F150 curb weight in the 3.3 is closer to a compact truck already. Compare a supercab F150 4x4 to a crew cab Tacoma or Colorado 4x4. Yeah you get slightly less room in the cab, but a wider and longer box. Similar weight. And around here, cheaper than the mid size trucks.
@jojojordan5557
@jojojordan5557 Год назад
Very true. I have a 2013 F150 with the NA 3.7 engine with RWD and I get a combined 18-20 MPG. it's been great for my remodeling business and home needs. It has enough power for most people. Unless you carry big payloads or trailers on a regular basis, it doesn't make sense to get the more complicated ones. I am thinking to get the new 3.3 enginve also with a 6 seat ext. cab configuration.
@Gamerz00760
@Gamerz00760 6 лет назад
At 390 for a turbo replacement I can't complain in the future if it needs replaced. A lot of assumptions that people are paid ford supporters or these engines are problematic. I've had my 2.7l for 2 years and use the auto stop start most of the time. No problems here. I've loaded mine with 1500 payload on steep hills and grade, pulls it like I never added the weight aside from some squat with the load. Ford's 2.7l is practically a hybrid of diesel and gas engines. The torque down low like diesels, the extra air is a performance boost over naturally aspirated engines at high altitudes where others lose power ratings substantially, and in general keeps high HP where diesels are lacking. The aluminum body is substantial in allowing for improved capability. I feel I'm driving a sports car but with visibility and power of a truck. Not to mention much improved braking with weight savings. Anyone with doubts needs to test drive one and if you want more power just put it into sport mode... All the owners on the f150 forum agree, sport mode is a blast. As other owners commented...its sure to make you smile. At 19mpg on my 15' loaded xlt 36 gallon supercrew I'm loving every bit of it. Sign me up for turbo engine and replacements every time should it come to that. Now just to see if aluminum will last longer in the rust belt.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Thanks for the comment, I couldn't agree more.
@ryans4871
@ryans4871 5 лет назад
So 2 years problem free and you're all in on this and trying to convince others to purchase one?
@calebniederhofer6529
@calebniederhofer6529 4 года назад
@@ryans4871 Absolutely, some of the internals , Block use the same composite as fords diesel. They designed this engine for the high pressure , torture tested it . They have continued to improve it with dual port injection, upgraded oil pump. People really dont even understand turbos , They have been used on Trains , Ships , planes ,just because something has a turbo does not mean it's not reliable. In fact turbos are just a turbine that uses free flowing exhaust . Electronics , technology on todays trucks is more likely to cause the expensive issues then turbos. I have a 2019 2.7 , I see zero reason to worry about reliability with proper maintenance. 2019 ram had more recalls on airbags , welds on the drive shaft, screen issues , but people get caught up on turbos lol
@birdsgarage3305
@birdsgarage3305 4 года назад
I went from a 14 Silverado 5.3 to a 19 F150 2.7. The 2.7 has a more "truck-like" power delivery starting at low rpm and continuing throughout the rev range. It seems like the modern V8s have to rev to the moon to make any power. I don't want my truck to be screaming along at 5500 rpm pulling a trailer up a hill. I know the sound of a V8 is intoxicating, but I think the tradeoff is well worth it to run a twin turbo V6.
@mikeshelton5629
@mikeshelton5629 4 года назад
No recent comments? I'm reading the 2018 5.0 I'd notorious oil burner and the Ecos are plagued with cam phasers problems. Plus the rattles from taking the cab off to work on the motors. Anyone hear anything bad about the 3.3?
@estebahng5964
@estebahng5964 5 лет назад
What about this 3.5 V 6 with twin turbo a that out pull anything ? This looks like re hash of the 3 8 grand national with a turbo .
@andrewschrandt5079
@andrewschrandt5079 6 лет назад
5.0 is the best F150 engine. By far the most reliable no extra plumbing or turbos. Easy to work on. Sounds great. Plenty of power. He said “only an 8,000lb trailer” it’s a half ton. It’s not a semi truck. I’d take my 5.0 with an intake and exhaust over any 6 cylinder with dual hair dryers. It’s a pickup truck.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 6 лет назад
Andrew Schrandt What about the 3.5 duratec.
@andrewschrandt5079
@andrewschrandt5079 6 лет назад
Puff the Magic Dragon If I’m buying a truck I’m keeping it for 10-15 years and a 5.0 N/A is easier to work on and cheaper to maintain because there isn’t two turbos and 20 feet of piping and extra parts.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 6 лет назад
Andrew Schrandt Yes but the same can be said for the 3.5 duratec, both are very reliable, N/A engines. The 3.5 eb is still reliable by turbocharged engine standards, but not as reliable as those 2.
@mrnovacan2158
@mrnovacan2158 6 лет назад
5.0 v8 and disconnect the stop and go crap!
@Txcowboy80
@Txcowboy80 6 лет назад
But you have to hit the damn button every time you get in the truck.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 6 лет назад
Start/stop is stupid horseshit.. When people realize it is on every F150, Ford sales will drop.
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 5 лет назад
LEAVE IT IN OFF ROAD MODE.
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 5 лет назад
Emissions have gone to far ruining our trucks.
@Freddy4fingers2
@Freddy4fingers2 5 лет назад
@Camera Man you can also plug in a seven pin connector tester and leave it in. That turns to stop/start feature off because it tells the computer that there is a trailer connected, and that bypasses the feature.
@shadowbanded
@shadowbanded 5 лет назад
After 40,000 Mi of light-duty the 3.5 EcoBoost had to have the heads rebuilt. Ford technician says he doesn't understand why there's not a recall cause it happens so often.
@Johnsmith46392
@Johnsmith46392 4 месяца назад
What year was the engine?
@jerrykegel2678
@jerrykegel2678 5 лет назад
Hi, I purchased a 2004 F150 new and still running good aft a few issues with plug coils & injectors. Presently getting 25.1 mpg Hwy & 17-18 mpg city. (5.4 cu) with 116000+ miles.. Why would I trade this vehicle?
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 5 лет назад
I wouldn't. Keep it. Sounds like you got the right truck for you.
@F150ownershipguy
@F150ownershipguy 4 года назад
I have a 2019 3.3L and I love it. Don’t tow with it and didn’t really buy it to pull.
@tongafuponga3258
@tongafuponga3258 4 года назад
down in tourqe but similar numbers to toyota engine all new motor 3.3 few have used or seen one
@petrosspetrosgali
@petrosspetrosgali 3 года назад
So why did you buy a truck if you just use it as a car? Sounds like a waste to me.
@rockfinancial2371
@rockfinancial2371 6 лет назад
Performance wise, the ecoboost engines are impressive. However, I cannot disregard the fact that a V8 NA will have less things that can go wrong. As one guy said, she has less plumbing to go bad! V8 is still king in my book!
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Thanks for commenting.
@johnhasert123
@johnhasert123 5 лет назад
My 2013 5.0 still gets 21 hwy and 15 to 16 city after 63000 miles and my friends new Ecoboost 3.5 2018 Raptor gets he says if he's lucky 15hwy and wouldn't show me his dashboard read out for the city because I was picking on him how bad is it owners?
@Allegronaut
@Allegronaut 5 лет назад
What was the axle ratio of the 5.0L that you drove? It's not sluggish with the 3.73! The best you can get for towing in a Chevy is a 3.42, that sucks!
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 5 лет назад
It's been a while but I recall it was the max trailer tow pkg, which would make it the 3.73. I was comparing Ford engine/drivetrain options and it felt sluggish compared to the Ecoboost engines. But the same as most gas, non-turbo V-8's in the 5.0-6.2L including the 2019 Chevy/GMC's I just tested. Thanks for the comment!
@mstripling86
@mstripling86 5 лет назад
I just picked up a 2.7 liter EcoBoost, I cant believe how much power it has for such a small engine. I came on the lot wanting a 5.0 v8 but after driving the 2.7 I was hooked and wanted it instead. I definitely recommend the 2.7, it will shock you how quickly it accelerates.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 5 лет назад
Agreed. It has a huge fun factor.
@alangonzalez9821
@alangonzalez9821 6 лет назад
I love that MPG rating... 18 City 20 Hwy 22 Combined 😂😂😂
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
S**t. Good catch. Should be 18/23/20 mpg or 13.1/10.2/11.8 L/100km city/hwy/combined for a 4x4 with an LT tire.
@patrickdempsey8343
@patrickdempsey8343 6 лет назад
I heard somewhere that the 2018 3.5L ecoboost engine has Direct & Port fuel injection at the same time...
@darrellhuggins9901
@darrellhuggins9901 6 лет назад
when did ford start to combine the port with direct injection in the echo boosts? Before that they / all manufactures were having issues with carbon build up on the back of the intake valves????
@Duden1337
@Duden1337 6 лет назад
Great Video, just picked up a 2018 F150 V6 2.7L Ecoboost and I absolutely love it. Its a fun drive during my regular commute and is capable for towing and offroad when needed. I traded in my '07 4.6L V8 F150 and am happy with the change to V6, your review on the 2.7 is incredibly accurate to my experience.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Thanks for the kudos and you sure made a great choice. I have truck envy.
@Duden1337
@Duden1337 6 лет назад
obviously it was a typo, dont be an ass.
@jaytopolski4519
@jaytopolski4519 6 лет назад
Long term tests should be taken into consideration, I just traded in a 2012 f150 3.5 ecoboost with 95000 miles because I needed a new timing chain at 78000 miles and then started having same symptoms at 93000, sputtering engine at 80000 miles from needing spark plugs, leak in cooling lines from turbo heat, speakers, backup camera not working. Went to a ram and love it. No more fords for me!
@JS-nd1po
@JS-nd1po 6 лет назад
Jay Topolski Get what you like, my good friend has a 2005 Ram, I have a 2006 F-150. He's put more money into repairs than I have. We use Chevys at my work and their transmissions and fuel pumps go out. Each has its issues and all in all are going to be pieces of junk sooner or later.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 5 лет назад
Buy Ford, just avoid the stupid eco-boost engines. And by 90,000 miles, any gas engine truck is shot.
@michaelsteel3840
@michaelsteel3840 5 лет назад
@@tommytruth7595 you have no idea what you are taking about my 91 f250 with the 351w went 450k before needing to be rebuild and it's still on the road today with just shy of 600k
@shughes911
@shughes911 3 года назад
Great review
@jrherita
@jrherita 6 лет назад
3.3 f150 has a better power to weight ratio than 1980s f150s had with the 4.9 i6 or the 5.0 v8 ? And those did all kinds of work back then?
@21April853BC
@21April853BC 6 лет назад
I have the single cab regular bed 2016 F150 2.7 ecoboost and it's a great work truck.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Great to hear from someone with real world experience - thanks for commenting.
@tedschmitt178
@tedschmitt178 4 года назад
I had the same, but mine was not a work truck.
@on4acres
@on4acres 6 лет назад
Solid review, I thought you broke this down extremely well and spoke very clear. Maybe back the camera up a little bit on the next one.
@MultiPowerlin
@MultiPowerlin 6 лет назад
Is it good or bad that my 99 f150 with the 5.4 2v tows 8,000lbs and isn't sluggish what so ever
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Not at all, a little research shows the stock engine then produced 260hp @ 4500 RPM and 350lb-ft @ 2500 RPM - very respectible numbers. To hit max torque in the new 5.0L you have to hit 3850 rpm. I haven't looked at the torque curves but your truck could be less sluggish.
@seanpaul2889
@seanpaul2889 6 лет назад
You forgot to mention an important aspect of the two different Ecoboost engines. One has a much stronger, more durable engine block. The 2.7L EcoBoost V6 uses a compacted graphite iron (CGI) engine block, which is the same material used in the 6.7L Power Stroke diesel engine block. The 3.5L Ecoboost V6 uses an all aluminum engine block.
@EricFortuneJr.
@EricFortuneJr. 6 лет назад
For Ford to only offer the diesel option in higher trims kinda defeats the purpose of offering a diesel in the first place since most contractors and construction fleets will likely only go with basic work trucks like the XL or XLT.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 5 лет назад
The XL is all anybody needs.
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 5 лет назад
YES STUPID FORD.
@williampineo4074
@williampineo4074 5 лет назад
You can get it in the lower trim levels if you have a Ford Fleet ID number. You don't have to be a large company to get an ID. You can incorporate yourself and get an ID number. Then you can buy any of Ford's fleet offerings like the police vehicles and Diesel F150 in a lower trim
@7runamuck
@7runamuck 6 лет назад
No mention of dealing with crud build up under the valves in the cylinder heads common with direct injected gas engines.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
That is a concern with DI but Ford says that by also using the port injection it will keep them clear.
@R777-RLM
@R777-RLM 6 лет назад
4WD Magazine. So far Ford F-150's and Toyota's 3.5L V6's, and the 2018 Camry's new 2.5L 4 cylider, are the only engines with Direct and Port Injection, but hopefully this will become the norm.
@7runamuck
@7runamuck 6 лет назад
The addition of the port injector (s), is this common throughout the line of Eco boost engines? Does the use of low friction piston rings contribute to additional higher oil consumption and additional carbon byproducts entering the crankcase? What is the real world life expectancy of these engines compared to a port injected engine?
@R777-RLM
@R777-RLM 6 лет назад
7runamuck. Sadly no, the only Port and Direct injected engines are in the F-150, and Toyota's 3.5L V6's, and the 18' Camry's 2.5L I4. It's very possible that the low friction piston rings increase oil consumption, and increase crankcase gasses, especially in Turbo charged engines, due to increased intake temperatures and combustion pressures, these are both enemies of engine longevity. There is evidence that Direct Injected engines do much better, if the vehicle is driven mainly at highway speeds vs. stop & go city driving.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 6 лет назад
7runamuck From my understanding, this is basically the new standard for all eb engines to have port and direct fuel injection.
@twstalder
@twstalder 6 лет назад
I’ve been a ford guy most of my life My last f-150 was a 2009. They’ve been slowly taking the power away from the F150 with each new model. My current truck is the F-250 with 6.7 power stroke and that thing is a beast. Given how much they’re asking for F150’s you’d be nuts not to jump up to the F-250 unless all your doing is city driving.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
If you do a lot of serious towing, you're right - go bigger.
@Dave-hr8je
@Dave-hr8je 6 лет назад
5:43 18mpg city, 20mpg hwy, and 22mpg combined. Is that extra ~3 mpg from the entrance ramp?
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Corrections are in description - sorry for the confusion.
@garyroberts7257
@garyroberts7257 6 лет назад
Always had f150 trucks and one f250 not a single problem out of any of them current truck is a 2011 5.0 V8 I've pulled all kinds of stuff with it never felt it was short on power and in the long term no turbos to heat up towing and b a possible problem later
@Twizztify
@Twizztify 6 лет назад
Gary Roberts I have a 2013 f150 fx4 5.0 and I was very impressed with it this past weekend. It was like a tractor in tow haul mode pulling our 21 foot boat. Even our old 97 f350 had trouble towing it. Not this truck though, pulled better than I was expecting! My dad was following me in his gmc 5.3 towing a pretty well empty car trailer and he fell a half mile behind me up every hill :)
@staffoffice
@staffoffice 6 лет назад
2011 was reportedly the last good F150 they put out.
@aday1637
@aday1637 6 лет назад
The turbo's are water cooled.
@RANDOMHOBO01
@RANDOMHOBO01 6 лет назад
Peter everyone knows you drive a red station wagon.......... stop trying to fool everyone saying you drive a 5.0
@edlococo4106
@edlococo4106 6 лет назад
You are smart enough to perform the required maintenance on the truck. Unless you get a lemon, any vehicle can be reliable if you JUST TAKE CARE OF IT. I appreciate my 2014 F-150.
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 6 лет назад
Ford wants you to go to the repair shop sooner with those turbo engines. Sometimes the slower engine means spwer to the repair shop.
@zzanatos2001
@zzanatos2001 6 лет назад
You are correct. That is why Toyotas are so legendary for their longevity. I have a 2004 4Runner Sport with a 4.7-liter V8. It only makes 245 horsepower, but it will last for more than 300,000 miles without any major repairs.
@glehman01
@glehman01 6 лет назад
I have always been a Ford man, in 2016, I drove one, 5.0, column shifter, console shifter unavailable unless you bought a Sport Package, Same for black interior, only available in Sport, body color bumpers, all that I didn't want, so I drove and bought a 2016 Tundra, I'm pretty happy with it. Plenty of power, torque, very reliable. All that said, If Ford came out with an Ecoboost 5.0 I'd probably come back as quick as I could !
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
The Tundra is a solid truck - you made a great choice.
@destroygaryfunky7053
@destroygaryfunky7053 5 лет назад
Is Ford still using the woefully inadequate oil pumps in the 150?
@luvmysuperduty
@luvmysuperduty 6 лет назад
I’m about 5 months in on 5.0 ownership. The day to day in town driving’s FAR superior to the Ecoboost. My wife says the Ecoboost is jerky, at first I didn’t understand what she meant. Then we test drove the 5.0 and she said “see”! I’m sure the towing is better with the Ecoboost but I’m lucky to own a2016 6.7 F250 for that. Don’t usually chime in on this stuff but all the anti 5.0 chit chat is starting to get to me! The 5.0 is an amazing smooth, reasonably efficient, and powerful motor.........oh and it sounds AMAZING!!!
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Glad to hear you love the 5.0 and the F150. It certainly is smooth and the sound of a V8 is undeniably good. Swap out the OEM exhaust for a performance exhaust and it sounds fantastic.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 5 лет назад
A big problem.
@Tusuperbis
@Tusuperbis 5 лет назад
ford wants to push that ecoboost agenda because they want to cash in on the servicing. I know a service manager at a ford dealership and he has been raking in big bonus on the ecoboost vehicles.
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 5 лет назад
@vachief...You mean the one video floating around RU-vid? lmao
@poppyneese1811
@poppyneese1811 6 лет назад
Have a 2.7 ecoboost and could not be happier with the lil rocket motor. Better than 21 mpg around town, where 90% of my driving is done. Never once have I even thought I'd like to have more power. I never would have guessed just 2.7 liters could do what they do in this truck, hope it's a great engine long term, just 7 thousand miles, and a smile every one of those miles.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Couldn't agree more. After a lifetime of 5.0L plus sized engines in trucks, it's a mental leap to grasp how much you get out of the new smaller engines.
@poppyneese1811
@poppyneese1811 6 лет назад
Great review!
@tmaq9726
@tmaq9726 6 лет назад
4WD Magazine well if they woud slap turbos on the 5.0 then that would be a game changer you think?
@Skankhunt98745
@Skankhunt98745 6 лет назад
Poppy Neese don't tow with the 2.7l you will have over heating issues and turbo problems
@frank09busa
@frank09busa 6 лет назад
tmaq97 they won't. 3.5 ecoboost is very expensive tech and coyote twin turbo is guaranty over priced for sure since ecoboost is more than 5.0 as is. can't go wrong with VMP or Roush blower
@controlavirus9839
@controlavirus9839 Год назад
I bet the same ones talkin sit about EB have never owned one. Because I can say from my experience, I had the first year 3.5 eco and when I sold it had over 350,000 miles on it. It had 30k when I purchased it. I drive daily all around the state for work and EVERY weekend I pull a tandem trailer boat Let me tell y’all, it’s as close to perfect as you can get. Now I own the new 2.7 eco and so far perfect
@bassackwards6184
@bassackwards6184 5 лет назад
I don't tow, just lots of hauling in the bed with close to max payload. I've got the 2016 5.0, I'm really happy, a couple small issues but nothing to do major components. I'm glad I went 5.0, I have even been able to squeeze out 10 L per 100km on long road trips.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 5 лет назад
That's great to hear. Thanks for commenting.
@randyneal1790
@randyneal1790 4 года назад
2.7 ecoboost is bad ass. I have a F-150 sport and I love mine.. Great fuel mileage if you keep your foot out of it.
@tongafuponga3258
@tongafuponga3258 4 года назад
do a test at 62mph putz on freeway for 50 miles flat wind free and report the best reset computer number over 30 I have to see it
@frogman4468
@frogman4468 4 года назад
@@tongafuponga3258 I've never gotten over 22 mpg ' thats pretty good in my book. especially for a 4wd
@fordmud
@fordmud 6 лет назад
While i do agree with what your saying here, especially about the engine choices, i wouldnt count out the the 5.0l completely. Yes, if you plan on towing heavier trailers alot the 3.5l is definitely the best towing engine, having much better torque in the lower rpm and in my experience runs an average of 1000rpm less towing than the 5.0l. And driving empty it is a much smoother driving engine as it doesnt shift as much to pick up speed because of the low end torque. The 5.0l seems that when to touch the pedal even slightly, its dropping gears and is excited to go, its like it wants to be driven hard and doesnt like being in the lower rpm range causing it to shift more. However the 5.0l gets pretty damn close to same mileage empty as the 3.5l, and if drive alittle heavy footed it does seem to do better mpg wise than the 3.5l when the truck is empty. But as far as the fun factor especially for those of us that love building engines and the way a n/a makes power the 5.0l is definitely where its at. There are so many routes and parts to build this engine anyway you want.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
I'm such a fan of the aftermarket I can't disagree with your last comment. If you want an engine to tune and build - go 5.0.
@anthonymacneil2279
@anthonymacneil2279 6 лет назад
Luke Strough So far so good awesome truck. Very true all manufacturers have issues some more than others. I'm not loyal to any brand buy what's the best deal.
@KJBPSkipper
@KJBPSkipper 6 лет назад
Luke Strough Well,considering the 5.0 is a Mustang engine with a couple of changes is why it behaves that way.
@casper24ism
@casper24ism 6 лет назад
Luke Strough wait driving a 5.0 is gunner that a twin turbo 3.5? Dude you as most of the idiots on here bashing the 3.5 don't know what your talking about. The twin turbo pulls way harder that a 5.0 which equals fun.
@fordmud
@fordmud 6 лет назад
Casper Ghost Dude, i didnt bash the 3.5l, that engine is great for towing, I just said if your into building engines the 5.0l is a more fun engine to have. Now this is just opinion but the ecoboost to me feels like a electric motor, it makes a stupid amount of low end torque and just holds that torque most of its rpm range which kinda just makes a linear feeling of acceleration but is perfect for towing. Where as the 5.0l has that building up to its power as it revs up which to me makes it alittle more fun to drive, but its always screaming when you actually need the power for towing . Plus it has ALOT of room for building and making more power, whereas the ecoboost is kinda strung out already so theres not alot of room for making it faster as an empty truck and tinkering with it for fun.
@ronaldreed7698
@ronaldreed7698 6 лет назад
So are you saying the 3.5 has more power then the 5.0 coyote?
@charlesdegener7002
@charlesdegener7002 6 лет назад
2018 with the auto start stop and I I disable the minute I start the truck! I see no reason for it other than to increase gas mileage and when is it increase the gas mileage? One or 2 mpg tops
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
I think they add it just to meet emmission standards. Maybe it makes sense for folks who live in traffic jams a couple hours a day.
@albaraqahtani
@albaraqahtani 4 года назад
So i can disable the start-stop ? NICE
@mchl8
@mchl8 6 лет назад
hey not a bad review, broke down very well. I'm the old 6.9- 7.3 era all the way. lol
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Thanks
@alexburke7599
@alexburke7599 6 лет назад
mchl8 haha me too, I'm a simple man I guess I have an 87 6.9. I wouldn't take one of these new trucks even if it was free (unless they'd let me sell it:) I wouldn't be able to afford any repairs once the warranty ran out, even the maintenance is more expensive. My neighbors spent over 10k fixing their King Ranch and it only had 60k miles on it when it ran into the factory issues. I've been having a lot of trouble lately with my 6.9 with the IP and fuel, but I try to remember some of the crap others have to deal with on the modern emissions systems and not get too dejected. I only have so many parts that could have failed and they are so cheap in comparison so eventually I'll change out the right part:)
@stephenkintzel5362
@stephenkintzel5362 6 лет назад
Middletown Mike , lmfao, Nissan better known as pisson , they're junk !!!!
@hankclingingsmith6471
@hankclingingsmith6471 6 лет назад
Middletown Mike they are lying to you
@mchl8
@mchl8 6 лет назад
HANK CLINGINGSMITH no- these things are trash, I know that. thank you for clarifying this though . 😃
@DucStewie
@DucStewie 6 лет назад
2013 F150 (46k miles) with a 3.5 ecoboost here. I will NEVER buy another ecoboost and maybe never buy a ford again. Between timing chain issues, carbon build up, sludge build up, torque converter problems, Ford's flat out refusal to honor warranty issues & being lied to but service reps, I have no faith in Ford's "quality".
@jaysmith4328
@jaysmith4328 6 лет назад
My 14 gmc sierra shakes all over the place at certain speeds (i know other people with the same problem), its all the makers unfortunately.
@ninerout399
@ninerout399 6 лет назад
I have a 2008 GMC Sierra 5.3L with 262,000+ miles on it and it runs just as good as it did on day 1. Ford designs their vehicles to be difficult to work on so you have to take it in. GM caters to the home mechanic and have more vehicles on the most dependable list than any domestic manufacturer. Chrysler are throw away cars and have always had issues with their vehicles.
@ninerout399
@ninerout399 6 лет назад
Joe Knapp it happens year after year.
@stevengrey1948
@stevengrey1948 6 лет назад
Shame... my 2012 has been flawless. sorry to hear about your luck. I have had a good experience with mine and will never drive another V8. They are quiet, smooth, good gas mileage and great power. The carbon build up issue has been solved in the newer models by multi-port injecting and direct injecting. I keep an eye out for carbon build up, but always run Top Tier Premium Gas, and change my oil frequently. I also use full synthetic with low NOACK. I admit I may still get hit with carbon build up, but the cost to clean and repair is cheaper than trading or buying a new truck. 6 years in... don't see a reason to turn back now.
@garyshadleyii210
@garyshadleyii210 6 лет назад
Ford has no approved method of cleaning carbon buildup in the heads. Fords approved method is to have the heads replaced with new ones.
@onlyrock1
@onlyrock1 5 лет назад
Immediately saw the stock iMovie intro, read the comments. We're good here bud.
@The65cobra427
@The65cobra427 6 лет назад
I had a 95 f-150 4 wheel drive with a 4.9 6 cylinder 5 speed manual, believe it or not I put over 400,000 miles on it with no work done on the engine. Had the clutch done twice and the transmission rebuilt once, loved that truck I could always rely on it.
@jtjtrs8806
@jtjtrs8806 6 лет назад
V8 on my brothers 2008 f150 is still going strong no issues , if i ever get one it will be a v8
@karlhopkins713
@karlhopkins713 6 лет назад
J.T Houston TEXAS I have an 07 with the 4.6 242k not a tick or ping on the engine. A van my dad has 06 e250 4.6 570k never been touched
@Weak_juan
@Weak_juan 6 лет назад
Good review but like any review, no one can test long term durability and reliability. I'm talking >12years with 300,000miles on the clock especially in northern climates. Logically, more parts and complexity means more things can fail.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Valid comment. But they do try. Here's a link to a story about a randomly selected, torture tested 3.5L EcoBoost in 2011 that went through 150,000 simulated miles while being repeatedly cooled to -20°F and heated to 235°F; then dropped in a truck and sent to work as a log skidder, then hauler, then pulled and put in another truck to race the Baja 1000. Then dyno'd again and shipped to the Detroit auto show where it was pulled apart in fron of a live audience. While the engine had some significant wear, they've had six years to improve and learn. - news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/01/what-the-inside-of-a-torture-tested-ecoboost-v-6-looks-like.html
@smarticus6384
@smarticus6384 6 лет назад
Quang Nguyen Good point. I've seen trucks rusted to pieces after 12 years.
@kingdaniel3519
@kingdaniel3519 6 лет назад
I've seen Toyotas rusted in half in 5-6 years.
@staffoffice
@staffoffice 6 лет назад
You can't find those metrics because in a Ford gas truck it's more rare than a unicorn fart to find a Ford gas truck with an original factory installed motor with 300K on it.
@kingdaniel3519
@kingdaniel3519 6 лет назад
Keep shoveling shit, Turd Ferguson.
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 5 лет назад
I have a 06 f150 with 5.4 v8 200k miles and still running good. And it is payed for
@MrDaveakaICE
@MrDaveakaICE 6 лет назад
I ownwd a '14 f150 stx sport crew cab with the 3.7 v6, and it was a great truck. I traded it because it would not tow the camper that I wanted to buy. If I had thought my wife and I would want to start camping I would have gotten the '14 with the 3.5eco instead. I then got a '15 f150 XLT crew cab with the 5.0 v8. I had a problem with the rear end shaking after a gear swap to a 3.73 ratio. Never could get the shake out of it. It would shake like a bad balanced tire at or above 80mph. I then read up on the next gen 3.5 ecoboost in the '17 F150. I traded for a '17 f150 STX sport with the max tow, 3.55 gear, 36gal fuel tank, rear factory tailgate step, and sync 3. The ecoboost has been great so far, and it also has the 10spd transmission. In town I average about 19mpg, and on the road with 4 adults and the bed full of luggage, and other stuff, I got 22.9 mpg. I averaged 70-80mph on the interstate. The 10 spd has been very good so far, I have had none of the issues other have had with it. My truck was built in May of '17 after some of the updates to the transmission. Shifts great and it does not "hunt" gears at all. I tend to drive it in sport mode most of the time as the truck is overall more responsive in that mode. I have the factory tail pipe remove , and a 3inch turndown at the rear axle. The resonator has been removed, and it sounds great, and I get good compliments about how good it sounds. You can only do so much with a V6. The power is great and the truck will really surprise you with how much power it has. I can say, having owned both that I do prefer the 3.5 EB over the 5.0. I'm not saying the 5.0 is bad, because it is a great engine for sure, but the low end torgue of the V6 is crazy.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
While lots of folks love the 5.0L V8, I would argue that turbo-charged V6's are the future of half-ton trucks. Performance and fuel economy can't be beat, and I suspect the new generation of Eco's will prove to be reliable as well.
@mschiffel1
@mschiffel1 5 лет назад
Sorry, I don't like V6s in any pickup truck...I don't care how much boost they have...I'll stick with my Ram 1500 4X4 and the HEMI 5.7L engine...How long will a highly stressed small displacement V6 last without major issues ?
@calebniederhofer6529
@calebniederhofer6529 4 года назад
I hear people say that until they drive a EB , and tow with one. The low end torque is phenomenal. Yes it's a high performance engine , But the second gen improvement really are significant. They addressed any weak point in the gen 1 designs. Fords torture tested the EB motors. For example the 2.7 hits peak torque 80% at around 2700 vs over 4k on the 5.0 . Maintenance is really key on the EB motors , and almost everyone I have seen with issues neglected maintenance.
@Txcowboy80
@Txcowboy80 6 лет назад
I'll stick with my 18 Tundra. They have been making the same powertrain for 10 years. People think that it's a bad thing I have the complete opposite view. I know it's been tested. New and improved doesn't always mean better. It is basically a fuel injected 350 engine with 4.30 gears. It'll easily last me 20 + years with general maintenance.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
There's definitely an argument for 'no change' when it comes to making a case for durability, but it hurts Toyota's sales. I'm not a car guy but I think they spend more updating their cars on a regular basis. The FJ is another case of Toyota's neglect - now it's gone.
@InLaymansTermsPlease
@InLaymansTermsPlease 5 лет назад
Just bought a super cab with the 5.0 three days ago and very happy with the 5.0. Started off wanting the 3.5 but after test driving both decided to go with the 5.0. The 3.5 had nice power BUT when I drove the 5.0 I could not notice a difference in power. I know the numbers say the 3.5 has a little more torque but I really couldn't feel it. What I did feel is the 5.0 has plenty of power and if you want more it would be much easier to add some after market bolt on's to beef it up far past the 3.5. Another thing I noticed is the 3.5 seemed to be working much harder to produce the power. It kinda feels like every time I pushed the peddle a little harder I was abusing the engine where as the 5.0 felt like it was built for it when you pushed harder on the peddle.
@YZ250Yamaha969
@YZ250Yamaha969 6 лет назад
But, will ford make an f150 that will not have electrical problems? Did they fix the driveline issue. Did they fix the fuel injectors that go out at 60,000 miles?
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 6 лет назад
Did GM give us all a free car since they took our hard earned money and bailed themselves out. Where is the thank you to the American People from GM???Oh wait we paid their way out of bankruptcy and then charge us 45,000 dollars for new truck. Ill pass
@jamesmoore2007
@jamesmoore2007 6 лет назад
I disagree with you on the 5.0
@notsoserious0944
@notsoserious0944 6 лет назад
Were you people even around in the days of the low output V8s? You know, the crappy TBI engines? The emissions choked big blocks? Each and every engine available today, outperforms any reasonable comparisons to the "old days." With the obvious exception of simplicity, maintainability, and performance upgrades. You give me a headache.
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 5 лет назад
Try working on a new one.
@BadWolf762
@BadWolf762 5 лет назад
Back in the day you could easily defeat the power robbing emissions and there were endless aftermarket options to bump the power up.
@Tusuperbis
@Tusuperbis 5 лет назад
ive had a bunch of 210hp early 90s 350 chevys. All of them ran like a top and I never had probs towing whatever I wanted
@THETOPGLOCK
@THETOPGLOCK 6 лет назад
Should of mentioned in the review that anyone buying a EB, a extended warranty is a MUST! If you lease you’re golden. Go with the 3.5
@70DMac
@70DMac 5 лет назад
My 4.6L V8 triton motor has been awesome in my 02 expedition. Truck is going on 17 years old and still running like new. Mileage is kind of low for the age at 168k but still running strong and the rest of the truck is holding up great. I would go V8 all the way.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 5 лет назад
V-8's have been the standard for a long time and are still the favourite with other manufacturers.
@alb12345672
@alb12345672 5 лет назад
That is a crown vic motor. Apples to oranges.
@zzanatos2001
@zzanatos2001 6 лет назад
Auto Stop Start is the biggest scam in the history of automobiles. In real-world driving, it doesn't save any fuel unless you routinely allow your engine to idle for long periods (5 minutes+). Starting an engine generally uses more fuel than idling for less than 5 minutes. Auto Stop Start also puts more wear and tear on starters, alternators, and batteries. In general, it's a useless pain in the ass that you can't disable. (You can turn it off temporarily, but next time you start your vehicle, the system turns itself back on.) It's an unnecessary add-on that overrides what drivers want.
@tommytruth7595
@tommytruth7595 6 лет назад
It is total horseshit and when people realize that it is on everything Ford makes, their sales will take a dive.
@ps3dethman1
@ps3dethman1 6 лет назад
You can turn it off with a 5$ smart phone app and a 15$ Bluetooth obd2 scanner
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 5 лет назад
THANK YOU EPA .FOR ANOTHER MANDATED LEMON PRODUCT YOU ALL READY MESSED UP THE DIESELS NOW YOUR GOING FOR THE GAS VEHICLES ALSO PEOPLE DON'T FOR GET THE METHANOL GAS.
@Freddy4fingers2
@Freddy4fingers2 5 лет назад
You can bypass stop/start by plugging a 7 pin connector tester into the connector.
@Shorthaul-overhaul
@Shorthaul-overhaul 6 лет назад
They still should have kept the 6.2 as a option
@tedschmitt178
@tedschmitt178 4 года назад
It's not needed.
@ES-pr8bt
@ES-pr8bt 4 года назад
TED Schmitt not needed? Then why are they coming out with a 7.3 litre gas
@KrullMedia
@KrullMedia 4 года назад
I have the 3.3 and I can only cruise main street, I tried hauling some 2x4s and no go.
@Anth230
@Anth230 4 года назад
Really? Wow. I have a 3.3 and it hauls hundreds of 2x4's no problem. 13k and no oil consumption or bad turbos on the v6...😂
@atamisk21
@atamisk21 5 лет назад
Love the 2.7. Dont regret it one bit.
@FrankyRedEyes
@FrankyRedEyes 6 лет назад
You know back in the day v8 engines weren't anymore powerful than this 3.3L V6 and everyone hauled their boats and campers just fine. Nowadays ppl feel their trucks are inadequate if they can't hammer down at 130kph up a hill and your words enforce this misguided thinking.
@walkerforsyth6221
@walkerforsyth6221 6 лет назад
daviesakiller You know back in the day we had these things called big block Chevys and in the hands of the right DIY wrench turner those things could easily make 600 plus hp These modern-day consumers are so stupid, let's pay 50 or 60 Grand on something that falls apart within 10 years None of the stuff is re machinable it's just plastic throw away garbage
@kingdaniel3519
@kingdaniel3519 6 лет назад
Back in the day, those big blocks needed their carbs rebuilt every 6-8 months, too.
@FMChimera
@FMChimera 6 лет назад
What day would that be? We rebuilt the occasional carb after abuse or bad fuel...or after 15 years and a 150k miles. Nobody was rebuilding carbs every few months.
@FMChimera
@FMChimera 6 лет назад
V8's have mass and make torque at lower RPM's. There durability and ease of maintenance is very good. These mini-motors will do fine...for the warranty period. Then they will be service nightmares people can't afford to maintain and that will gut resale value, just as Ford has dealt with for years thx to the Triton V8.
@walkerforsyth6221
@walkerforsyth6221 6 лет назад
FMChimera Truth spoken, amen. Like I said in the hands of the right person, Carburators are the best, cheep and easy
@johnw4590
@johnw4590 6 лет назад
I want a new truck but dont want to pay more than 20 grand. Can Ford do that? Then I'll be impressed..
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Not in Canadian pesos!
@ryans4871
@ryans4871 5 лет назад
Nope, and unfortunately the ranger will cost you as much or more than a similar f150. Apparently compact is valuable and costs more!!
@mikster313
@mikster313 4 года назад
Sorry john, but nobody ever can or will sell a truck for 20K new. Inflation sucks, and people want tech! The days of simple trucks are over unfortunately.
@Anth230
@Anth230 4 года назад
You can get a regular cab, 8 ft bed 4x2 f 150 with the v6 for about 24k. If you want 4x4 it will be close to 30k....
@tylerjackson4168
@tylerjackson4168 6 лет назад
Wooooow! This was an excellent and informative, well put together video! I learned a lot.
@omarramos8288
@omarramos8288 6 лет назад
I keep hearing rumors about v8 trucks that also run on 4 cylinders, (just like a Toyota sedan would do in order to save gas) is this true or not?
@RJARRRPCGP
@RJARRRPCGP 6 лет назад
Sounds just like what GM did in the early-1980s, with Cadillac... Look up "Cadillac 6-4" (or similar) on YT.
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 6 лет назад
Yes. The Ram 1500 will de-activate down to four and the Sierra/Silverado will go down to one cylinder.
@garyshadleyii210
@garyshadleyii210 6 лет назад
and they will use oil like crazy. I know because Honda uses that technology in the Odyssey. Honda calls it Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) and there was a class action lawsuit. The technology stinks.
@WHYTEBOY
@WHYTEBOY 6 лет назад
18 mpg city 20 mpg highway 22 mpg combined???? how?
@Its_Ninooo
@Its_Ninooo 5 лет назад
lmao
@lobbyrobby
@lobbyrobby 5 лет назад
Lol math
@fromstarlighttosunrise128
@fromstarlighttosunrise128 5 лет назад
when a half ton pickup is towing 8000 lbs it just might feel sluggish. but oh does that v8 ever feel capable. boost is cool but not in a $40,000 vehicle. i don’t want all that money to blow a head gasket
@4WDMagazine
@4WDMagazine 5 лет назад
Thanks for commenting.
@OverlandTT
@OverlandTT 6 лет назад
I'd like to see how the 5.0 v8 performs on a level playing field using the same 10 speed transmission and then put the smaller eco boost with the original transmission v8 that people say the v8 was sluggish. It would be an interesting mashup.
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