anyone doing this job, install the torque converter into the transmission before installing the engine, attempting to install it with the engine will result in front pump damage 99% of the time.
2006 F250 with 2007 Cummins 5.9 here. I used DCS also. I did my conversion in 2012. DCS has come a long way since. They know what there are doing now! Mike Dahlke is extremely knowledgeable! I recommend them!
Are you fucking high on crack?? Why would you replace a great engine with a shitty ass Cum Apart? If it's a 6.4, I totally get it, but the 2005-07 6.0 is the bomb
Excellent informative video. After installing Cummins did you need to adjust drive shaft lengths and if so by about how much? I just picked up a 2008 F350 mint with no engine. I have a 5R110 out of another 2008.....just need to find a 12/24 valve. Thanks for this.
Did you use the 6.4 electric fuel pump on the frame? Does the 24 valve you have have a lift pump on the engine? Was curious if the 6.4 pump has enough pressure for the vp44. Thank you
Thanks for the video, did you run a cam sensor with this build as well as the crank sensor, or just the crank sensor? I about 2 months away from wiring the pcm on a Detroit 4-53T swap. Take care:)
Yes I ran a crank and can from the dodge. The cam and crank sensor for the dodge look exactly the same and will cause problems if you put them in the wrong spot. I also ran a cam sensor for the ford electronics. It came with the flywheel and adaptor plate from Dcs.
@@brownlordofthewoodshop8552 Ok thanks.:) I might run into issues with my swap as the crank and cam rotate at the same speed. We'll see what happens and then go from there. Thanks again for your reply.:)
Is it because of the adapter plate that you bolted torque converter on? Ive never had luck with that,ive always screwed up front seal in trans,i always put converter in trans before i mate to engine,then put converter bolts in
Why ? ? The 12 valve with the P - Pump is very basic and reliable. It might cause problems in a State that dictates that the emission requirements go with the Year of the Vehicle.
I made up bushings to go behind the original fan to move it back towards the engine. About 1/4” works great. I also have a 1” body lift on the truck. This also helped.
Brown, Lord of the woodshop™ I ended up putting a Cummins radiator and making braces to mount all the other cooling systems . It was a major headache but we got it figured out ! Thanks for the info .
Hi, I wanted to ask you how the engine performance is with that transmission. If I do not have how to reschedule the transmission, could I mount another one? Which will be??
I love the 5r110. The 6 speed works amazing. It’s a bit of work to set up but diesel conversions has a tune that will set up the transmission to the 5.9. I used my sct tuner and uploaded the tune Its way better than the stock dodge transmission Hope that helps.
If I had it to do over I’d sent the harness in ! Dcs has been helpful I sourced the conversion parts from them. Should have it started tomorrow. 08 F450 12v I do have a few questions if you have time to hear them
I have2008 F250 6.4L and swapping in a 24V CR Cummins from a 2006 2500, can I get your manual from you as a download of Pdf just to get me on the way? Thank you very much for just considering my request!!! I'm 60 and don't really get all of those download and links and see below things.
I’m getting ready to put a Cummins into my 08 F-250 just waiting on the head to get back wanted to ask if you know what sensor I’m going to need to buy for it to work
Soooooo thissss is why I cant find a 24v donor truck for my Ram 1500 to 5.9 Cummins swap. See i thought I was just competing with Dodge guys....now ford guys too 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ lol JP cool swap man, hope it works out good for ya.
DCS has a bracket now that lets you hook your throttle cable to the stock pedal allowing you to keep your throttle position sensor. Would this make your transmission happier?
I don’t know. My transmission is from the ford. So I had to use an SCT programmer to make it work smoother. Dcs provided me the programming. Maybe on my next one I will look into it. Thanks
Im doing the same swap. 24v cummins in a 08 f350. My motor mounts from dcs dont line up and on the alternator bracket are you supposed to use the 6.4 belt or the 24v belt? Bcuz the 24v belt seems too short
Did Dcs send you the right motor mounts? Mine lined up perfect. As for the alternator I used the bracket from dcs and used the 6.4 alternator but I did use the Ac unit from the 24v In the description below there is a file that’s showed the conversion steps. I will look tomorrow to see what holes I used for the motor mounts.
@@brownlordofthewoodshop8552 yes, its the mounts fit on the frame they just dont line up eith eachother on the motor. Its like 2 inches off. I used the alternator bracket too but the 24v belt was too short to fit
Just bought an 08 F450 with a blown up 6.4. Ill be swapping it out for a commonrail 5.9. Only part that has me a bit concerned is the need for a lift to remove the cab... I did my last 12 valve swap (on my 98 K3500) in my garage, no cab removal required...
Oh ok perfect. Hey I’m almost done here I’m just a little lost here on the wiring. On the ignition relay it has 2 wires that say to connect to the pcm. How did you do that
I purchased a full truck for 2k and the kit from diesel conversions for 2500 and probably 1500 on random stuff. 12 valve is much easier to work with . $600 for the wiring harness was the best purchase made life so easier.
Thanks. I read in a magzine that it cost $7k plus an engine to do the swap. I can't figure out where all the money would go. I think some of these comapnies want you to buy parts that you don't really need. I found an 08 F-350 needing an engine for sale but the guy wants more than I want to go. I'd like to drop in common rail in it. A 12 valve would be easier to swap but it would be a step back in terms of performance.
The best purchase for me was the adaptor plate ring gear and wiring harness. The rest you can make . Motor mounts you would save 200 dollars if you make yourself . I used an sct programmer to control the 5r110 transmission. It works great. Once you get started i will help you out . if you look in my more info i have linked the wiring diagtams and manual from dieael conversions on how to do the swap. I paid 6 grand canadian 2 years ago for my f350 . it had a new transmission and was fully loaded. 35 tires as well.
This truck is a 08 f-350 XL supercab 6.4 with a ZF6. He wants $5500 USD. I don't think it is worth that. A 6.4 from a junkyard is $10k. It would cost more to put a 6.4 in it than what it is worth, if you had to pay for labor. I may contact him this week and see what he says. I was thinking about making mounts, they look pretty simple. They are $300 now. Buying mounts would really speed up the process though. Mounts are a hassle to make. Thanks for the offer. I may have to take you up on it. I read thought the manual a little last night.
All you need to know about the 6.4 powerstroke: According to Bill from Powerstrokehelp.com the 6.4 is a 150,000 mile throw away engine. Unrebuildable. He bought 10 used engines and was only able to make 2 engines from it.
Great video, doing a 08 ford f550 with a 02 Cummins. Had dcs do the wire harness but have a couple questions, if I sent you a picture would you be willing give me a hand if you can?
No worries, I have most everything hooked up one problem I am having is the truck is in park both in the cab and transmission but on the display is shows it's in 3rd gear. it won't let it turn over with the key. Any ideas? The shift leaver will not come out of park either
The plastic clip that holds the linkage to the transmission has adjustment You can try and adjust there. Also there is a safety switch which won’t allow the truck to turn over unless it’s in park or neutral. Also there is a safety that the break must be applied to remove it from park. It may be out of adjustment as well. I hope that helps.
In the link below there are schematics for the wiring. I purchased a wiring harness from diesel conversions. I sent them my ford and dodge harness and they combined the two. Best 600 I have ever spent. Let me know what you are stuck on and I will help you out.
Where are the two sensors you mentioned on in the video that are screwed on the head of the block you said " transmission and temperature sensor" they had red arrows drawn on the vídeo
Another question..Where did you route the little coolant outlets on the water neck down by the ac compressor. Also can't figure out where i can put the ford coolant temperature sensor i was supplied a adapter bushing but idk where it goes it doesn't screw on to the head with the adapter bushing
Sorry for the slow reply I unscrewed one of the plugs in the head and installed the transmission and temp sensor. Ford temp sensor in the top of the block.
@@brownlordofthewoodshop8552 where are these 2 sensors located, I can't figure where to find the transmission and temperature sensor you mentioned in the video
I have now over 150k on the swap and everything is great. The only thing I would ad is a better way to keep the relays dry instead of just mounting to firewall. I had the vp44 relay corrode.
I kept the ford transmission harnessing and used an sct programmer to reprogram the transmission. In the more description I have the dcs book which shows this process.
Diesel conversions sent me an adaptor that attached to my original pedal. I drilled a hole through the fire wall and attached it to the throttle position sensor bracket. Not a very hard task. I am still working on a way for cruise control
Brown, Lord of the woodshop™ ok, thanks for the reply. When I talked to them they said they wouldn’t know how I would do it and that I was pretty much on my own for that portion of it.
Brown, Lord of the woodshop™ bought a 2008 f-450 king ranch quad cab with a bad engine in it. Would like to do this conversion to it. Picked the truck up for next to nothing. Only had 89,XXX miles on it.
Diesel conversation sell any adaptor plate you will need for each year. I like the 5R110 transmission it seems to work great with the 5.9. I used a 2008 but with a bit of work you can put the 12 v in anything.
The wiring diagram attached in the description should help you. You will need to sort out what goes where with your dodge wiring by the colour of wires and use the pin location The pcm from the dodge must be intact as well as the ecm Its a lot of work but start from the ecm and work backwards. The best money that I spent was sending my wiring to diesel conversions and the made me a plug and play wiring harness.
Wow you've lost 2 engines? Because of all the hysteria about the 6.4, I have a low mile 24V in a bus for a swap but the 6.4 has 297,000 miles and still running great! Of course it has been deleated since just after new.
The torque converter was mounted first then the trans slipped in. There is 2 bumps the trans must slip into torque converter or it will not tighten up correctly.
@@brownlordofthewoodshop8552 Im familiar with that bud. what im talking about is at 6:48 of your video. It looks to me that you are stabbing it in bolted on the engine.
Where are you putting the cam sensor? Did you purchase the adaptor plate with the slot for the cam sensor? I used my ford cam sensor which fit into adaptor plate. The dodge cam and crank sensor look same be sure to label them they can be reversed and cause you problems later
Yes the plate is the same as mine. You need to take the cam sensor from your old ford motor . At the back of your dodge motor standing behind its in left side you need to take out the frost plug looking thing. on the adaption plate there is a rubber o ring you need and this seals the adaptor plate against the block.
I used the wire from the ford glow plugs and wired the grid heater solenoids to that. The grid heater work by grounding them there is constant hot power to them. When you turn the key on the ford computer sends power to close the solenoid and the grid heater will work. It’s was minus 27 the other day and mine fired right up
Brown, Lord of the woodshop™ ohh ok. I got everything done here and I have the dcs harness and I have 2 wires. That look like grounds labeled heater controlled
The grounds on the dcs wiring go to the two solenoid this completes the circuit for the heater grid. Power is supplied to the grid heater already and the grid heater starts to work when the circuit is complete by turning on the key which grounds the solenoid and closes the contacts.
Most of the cummins to ford conversions I do include a leveling kit at the very least because of clearances. also, there should be a place to tap in for oil pressure on the driver side of the block below the fueling stuff. Save that second oil filter port for a bypass.
I have recently bought a 2008 f350 to turn it into a fummins. I was thinking of swapping it for a 2006 5.9, This would be my first swap. So Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you
Best purchases are a wiring harness. It takes so much time to make one from scratch. The adaptor plate and flywheel is a must. The rest you can probably source easily. Motor mounts are expensive for what you get and they can be easily made. If I were to do it again I would swap out the injection pump for a old school manual pump and change injectors and lines. The Ford 5r10 is a great transmission you will need to buy programming for it Diesel conversion has a solid tune for this. Hope this helps
Which parts? Diesel conversion has most of the parts you will need. Especially the wiring harness Other parts I sourced out from processors garage in Keswick. Hope this helps.
I purchased the basic package from Diesel Conversion , Adaptor plate wiring harness and tuning for transmission. If you look at the more tab I have attached a manual that shows what you need . I will help you source parts just let me know what you need . It’s a fun project and you will have a great truck when you are done.
Kits vary in price. Depends on you needs. I used diesel conversion they were great to deal with and very helpful. All in I was around 5k. The best purchase was the wiring harness from diesel conversion. Hope this helps.
Under the view more I have attached a wiring diagram. Basically I used most of the sensors from the ford and put them in the dodge motor. I used a pick up off the front crank for the tack sensor. I kept the ecm and pcm intact and supplied power from the key.
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I don’t think he knows about mechanic cause you never bold the torque converter to the engine first that’s the reason you can damage the pump and the front pump seal .
