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G2 Demo Using your Amps' Effects Loop with TheGigRig G2 

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In this demo I'm going to show you just how easy it is to connect G2 to your amps' FX loop. Choose which effects are before the pre amp and which effects are in the loop, do it all without sacrificing one of your 10 G2 effect loops. Its so easy and sounds HUGE!

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@mojoboston7589
@mojoboston7589 3 года назад
I have a G3 & STILL love watching this!
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Ah, thanks Todd, so glad you like it. Yeah, the G2 features are something we're extremely proud of.
@thomasbarrasso6099
@thomasbarrasso6099 3 года назад
I recently got myself a Mark V and the G2 makes it sound great. None of my other amps have an effect loop and using the delays in the effects loop is a world of difference. I am using a Strymon DIG and a the Belle Epoch Deluxe. The slap back from the BED is amazing in the effect loop. I can get very cool reverb like sounds with that unit. The DIG produces even better ambient space tones through the effects loop. Thank you Daniel.
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 3 года назад
You’re most welcome Thomas 🤓🙏
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Thanks Chris, so glad you like it ;)
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Hi Simon, no probs. In the connections part you'll see the connections from G2's insert to the amp. There are two places the volume pedal can go. My favourite place is directly after the G2 insert send. G2 insert send>volume pedal>amp input. This will control the gain of the amplifier so when you turn the volume pedal down it will act like rolling the volume back on your guitar (sort of). The other place is Amp FX send>Volume pedal>G2 insert return. This will now act like a master volume
@r.llynch4124
@r.llynch4124 6 лет назад
I see a few post about cutting down the cable runs if using fx loops. I would recommend the G2 extension kit. Everything at the amp except maybe a volume/wah pedal using 1 midi cable from the foot switcher to your amp(s) BAM!!
@paraisodassancas
@paraisodassancas 6 лет назад
Hi, I'd like to know if I need a nose suppressor pedal for The distortions or the girig comes with some kind of noise suppressor it self? If I need a noise suppressor how to connect it?
@mlmcallister100
@mlmcallister100 8 лет назад
Great instructional vid
@strings2wood
@strings2wood 10 лет назад
Great demo of the simplicity and flexibility for maintaining the use of the FX Loop Daniel. Can you explain how to connect the volume pedal as well as using the FX Loop with G2 Kindest regards, Simon in Melbourne.
@sbiegs3885
@sbiegs3885 8 лет назад
You seem to understand the 4 cable method pretty well here. I am having trouble placing ANY FX in my Line 6 HD500X while using the 4 cable method. I followed your steps as to place the guitar>pre amp>delay. Still have that over modulated mess of a sound with most FX. Mostly while using the distortion from my head. EVEN after tweeking it a bit. Any clue why? Equipment: Line 6 POD HD50X with Marshall TSL 100 JCM 2000 head. 4 cable method. If you answer I greatly appreciate your time if not, I understand. It is a pretty well loaded question!!! Great video!!
@matthewhonnor
@matthewhonnor 8 лет назад
Hi Dan, If I'm using a mix of amp crunch and pedal distortion will it effect the sound at all if I have my reverbs and delays in the FX Loop? I have had one amp where things in the fx loop sound really different depending on if I'm using amp distortion or pedal distortion. I'm hoping to get a Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister 36 so if that makes any difference to my question please do let me know
@MichaelFloresbeginmarketing
@MichaelFloresbeginmarketing 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for everything you do for us clueless guitar players! I get this but I'm having trouble applying this to a stereo rig. How do I apply this to a stereo setup using stereo effects into my 2 mono amps? I want to run my eventide h9 and my other stereo effects but this video only solves the problem via a manorial setup. It's driving me CRAZY! HEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!
@patriciocastillo1403
@patriciocastillo1403 5 лет назад
Great video. Can I do the same configuration using my Boss ES-5 ???
@philjw3539
@philjw3539 5 лет назад
Can it be set up to bypass an amp's pre-amp, for example if you want to connect a distortion pedal directly to the amp's return? I can put the distortion pedal in the loop, but the amp's preamp would still be in the chain.
@SeanPierceJohnson
@SeanPierceJohnson 10 лет назад
I need on of these things! Question though Daniel TheGigRig , could you use the FX loop and run two amps at once as well? I would basically want to use two amps, running 100% of the time, but have delays in the FX loop of one amp, or both if possible.
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Hi Sean, yes, I just set up a clinic for Guthrie Govan where we were running 4 amps with effects loops. email me for more details
@Linux4UnMe
@Linux4UnMe 5 лет назад
Oh dear... I bought a joyo plx8 and forgot I need my modulations etc after the amp... I think I'm screwed? Doesn't have the inputs this does.. arghhhg
@charliehayward1237
@charliehayward1237 6 лет назад
how do you do it with 2 effects loops from 2 seperate amps aswell as going into the front of both?
@chrisosborneband4941
@chrisosborneband4941 10 лет назад
awesome!!
@darrenashton957
@darrenashton957 6 лет назад
Can you have multiple entry points for the loop in different presets?
@Chord_The_Seeker
@Chord_The_Seeker 2 года назад
I have two questions. First, if I use the effects send and return with the G2 (the volume insert send and return) is there any way to still use a volume pedal? Second, if the insert point sends everything after it to the effects loop of my amp does that mean that I have to group all of the pedals that I want to send to the effects loop at the end of the inputs/outputs? In other words, I have reverb, delay and chorus that I want to run through the effects loop of my amp. Do they have to be in loops 8, 9 and 10 on the G2 in order to do that? I assume they do since I didn’t see anything in this video about setting an end point for the volume insert loop.
@TheZenguitarguy
@TheZenguitarguy 6 лет назад
So that means with the G2 you have to choose whether or not you will have a Volume pedal in the signal chain or have a delay in the Fx loop? BTW TYVM for all the videos and the incredible wealth of knowledge you share!
@theviperdoctor
@theviperdoctor 5 лет назад
You could run the volume pedal just prior to the G2 guitar input.
@mr.yellowstrat3352
@mr.yellowstrat3352 2 года назад
I've wanted one for so long and now there's a G3?! 🤤 I might have to find a used G2, but I'm gonna own one one day
@stuartangel8212
@stuartangel8212 2 года назад
I sell you my G2. Comment back and we can chat
@MayonesPlayer
@MayonesPlayer 10 лет назад
can you change from having it in the loop and in front of the amp?
@Ullish1989
@Ullish1989 9 лет назад
Hi Daniel, do you need to have the Post Gain switch engaged at all times for the loop to work?
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 9 лет назад
yes, the post gain turns on the insert loop
@JoinMeinthePines
@JoinMeinthePines 10 лет назад
Hi Daniel, I have the Midi Pro 14. Is it possible to use the EFX loop on my amp with the Pro 14? Loving your work sir!! Thanks Dave
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
HI there. Yes you can, using the same method above but instead of using the INSERT, just use the effects loop on the Pro14 in the position you want. So if you want loops 8,9&10 in the amps fx loop, use loop 7 for your amps effects loop.
@ianminogue-corps7472
@ianminogue-corps7472 4 года назад
When I do the 4cm with my Randall RM100 i get virtually no signal whatsoever, very odd indeed, tried Serial and Parallel loops too
@NHail
@NHail 2 года назад
in the G2 FAQ it says to use a HumDinger/isolated output into the amp. what is the purpose of this/is it necessary?
@JonnyButler
@JonnyButler 7 лет назад
Dear Daniel, if you connect the G2 to an amp's FX loop using this method does it compromise G2's other assets? i.e. because this functionality is directly connected to the post gain amplifier will you no longer be able to have trails/spillovers or other features to do with the mixer?
@thesphericalguy9018
@thesphericalguy9018 7 лет назад
Send an email to gigrig instead, they're very helpful :)
@kentmartell8445
@kentmartell8445 7 лет назад
I want to do this with my new G2 but with a stereo effects loop return, how could i best accomplish this? Would love and idea, ive tried a bunch of stuff and havent found the answer yet! Thanks in advance
@mudorufo
@mudorufo 5 лет назад
I look the samw thing, did you find it how?
@andrewchew
@andrewchew 7 лет назад
if i change any setting in stompbox, will it affect all setting? for example: if i set bank 1 delay at 20%, then in bank 2 i would like to set delay to 50%, will it change the bank 1's delay setting?
@sammaddison2085
@sammaddison2085 6 лет назад
I can't say if it can do that or not but I have good results using an expression pedal with my delay and reverb effects. If the delay has midi in then generally it will have an expression pedal input.
@wharris66
@wharris66 10 лет назад
Is it possible to use a volume pedal and also use the G2 to send some effects to amps FX loop?
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Hi William, yes, just plug the send into the Volume Pedal, then out of the Volume Pedal into the input of the amp. The rest is the same. Cheers mate :)
@Ullish1989
@Ullish1989 10 лет назад
Are you able to assign the insert loop to different positions on each preset? Eg if I wanted chorus in the effects loop for some parts, then in front of the amp on another preset?
@nicolasrivera5310
@nicolasrivera5310 10 лет назад
I want to know this too!
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Nicolas Rivera Hi guys. Not at the moment. Once its set, if you want to change it then you need to re-set it. Cheers guys ;)
@nicolasrivera5310
@nicolasrivera5310 10 лет назад
Thanks man, at least its not at the moment meaning a firmware update will allow this in the future! ??? :D
@Ullish1989
@Ullish1989 10 лет назад
Ahh that's a shame, but I didn't expect it to cook me breakfast either lol...wait can it cook me breakfast? Getting mine today!
@Bflatest
@Bflatest 9 лет назад
Now that the VOLUME insert is used up to do FXloop what do we do with the volume pedal? Just put it inline before the gigrig?
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 9 лет назад
you can still put the volume pedal here, either
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 9 лет назад
Between the send and the amps input or the amps fx send and the G2 volume insert return :)
@mauroo33
@mauroo33 10 лет назад
Hi there, do I have to repeat the process every time I turn on the unit, or does it just remember how I configurated the insert order before?
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Hi there. G2 remembers everything. Set it up as you want it, turn the unit off, leave it for 40 years, turn it on and it will be exactly as you left it. You might not be, but G2 will :)
@mauroo33
@mauroo33 10 лет назад
Sounds great!
@pankratevmikhail8905
@pankratevmikhail8905 10 лет назад
Ok, the G2 gives us a possibility to use 2 amps (since its has 2 outputs). But how can i put some of the pedals into the effects loops of BOTH amps? G2 has only one send&return for that...
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Hi there. Absolutely G2 can do that. You simply use one of the G2 loops to put the second amps pre amp in, then send the outputs to the FX returns on both amps. The great thing about doing it this way is that you can actually choose which amps pre amp that you want to use with either or both power amps.
@sutt5828
@sutt5828 4 года назад
I've wired it up like this and have no control over the volume. Just loud even when amps volume is off. ??
@sutt5828
@sutt5828 4 года назад
@StephensSeanCollings I've had to change my ways and use the wet dry thing with two amps. I couldnt figure out a way of using effects loop without not having no control on amp volume
@LucaMolteni84
@LucaMolteni84 9 лет назад
Is it possible to reduce in a smart way the number of cables? Using a snake or a custom cable maybe.
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 9 лет назад
You can snake the cables together and create a sort of loom. this works well but you need the 3 cables (send to guitar input, fx send to G2 and out to amps FX return) for the signal path to work
@adriancaceres522
@adriancaceres522 9 лет назад
Luca Molteni I have the all the cables (to input, from send, to return and foot switch's) put together with zip ties.
@sbiegs3885
@sbiegs3885 8 лет назад
+Adrián Cáceres You can also use the spiral plastic cord protectors. comes in 5 foot or 152.40 cm. Stretch the spiral protector out quite a bit while you wrap it. Get it at your local or big box stores in the electrical or tv section. Works great!! For 3 cables you might need the 1/2 inch size or the 1.27 cm. Depending on what country you are in!
@jonnygagel
@jonnygagel 9 лет назад
Hi Dan, how do you get more than one effect in the fx loop? is it a case of when you're choosing say you hold down 6, everything from 7-10 with be in the loop, or hold down 2 and everything from 3-10 will be in the loop etc? or do you just choose which effects you want by choosing say 2, 6, 10 etc? Cheers
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 9 лет назад
Hi Jonny. You can place the insert loop anywhere in the chain you like so if you want loops 6,7,8,9 and 10 in the loop of your amp simply place the insert loop between loops 5&6. Works a treat :)
@sammaddison2085
@sammaddison2085 6 лет назад
Hey Daniel, Is their a way this kind of routing can be easily integrated into a wet, dry, wet rig? Also I have a number of pedals with expression inputs but would like to use no more than two i'm currently using live. Is their an easy way with any switching/selector boxes I could plug the expression pedals into and then chose where they get sent? Even better still if this could somehow be controlled by G2.
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 6 лет назад
Check out the Soure Audio Expression pedal, it's controlled via midi, and does all manner of cleverness. Yes you can do a wet/dry/wet using your preamp. Just place a HumDinger in a loop directly after the preamp
@rayodonovan4866
@rayodonovan4866 6 лет назад
If this helps - I control my strymon timeline and bigsky with one expression pedal using a trs splitter cable. Then set parameters as normal for each strymon. If I had a triple splitter I would control the mobius aswell (don't know if that would work though)
@kentlukie4696
@kentlukie4696 4 месяца назад
I still can’t get spill over to work properly.
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 4 месяца назад
Sorry to hear that. Check out the manual and if you’re still having issues send an email into support. Cheers mate
@Bflatest
@Bflatest 10 лет назад
So this is basically a 4 cable method?
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
exactly, its just done with the insert loop so it fans you can move the insert loop to anywhere in the chain.
@slickcross
@slickcross 10 лет назад
If I could connect my amp channel switch pedal into this, that would be awesome.
@TheGigRigDaniel
@TheGigRigDaniel 10 лет назад
Hi Slick. You can control your amp channels with G2's remote switches. I've done a video showing exactly how to do this. Cheers mate :)
@jameswilkins4motion
@jameswilkins4motion 2 года назад
Please someone tell me what pedalboard that is…HELP ME FRIENDS
@BNA_Est.1988
@BNA_Est.1988 6 лет назад
whats that green pedal?
@r.llynch4124
@r.llynch4124 6 лет назад
goes with the analogman delay.
@milesconbeth1764
@milesconbeth1764 8 лет назад
Isn't the FX Loop on any amp a major feature and one of the cornerstones of using an amp with FX? I really don't see why the G2 seems to treat this as an afterthought and tacks on this major functionality into "the volume pedal" insert? With the workaround you mentioned, doesn't this fly in the face of the core competency of the G2? Should have a dedicated Amp FX Loop, in fact, it would be a major good thing to have 2 of these for stereo amp setups. For this kind of money this should come as standard. Absolutely crazily, insanely expensive when compared to the functionality and complexity of Strymon etc. pedals (Van Wheedon, Neo, Eventide) Just my humble opinion.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 лет назад
How is this an afterthought? The Vol Pedal was designed specifically to be able to send a low impedance signal of which you can program the level to anything that likes to see a lower lope dance st the input such as a volume pedal or an amps pre amp. AND this insert can be placed between any of the loops and moved around do you can experiment with the position of your amps pre amp. Designed specifically for this job. NOT an afterthought and in absolutely no way is this a 'tacked on' feature
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 лет назад
Volume pedal 'insert' was designed to...
@milesconbeth1764
@milesconbeth1764 8 лет назад
+That Pedal Show OK, well if I have my volume pedal in that loop and it's also using the amps send and return, how do I control whether the volume pedal and/or the amps FXs loop is on or off/ bypassed? Are you saying this can be done? Isn't the idea to have each pedal isolated to maintain the best signal path? That's what I meant by "core competency". Seems like a pretty important function to be shared with a volume pedal loop. Why doesn't it have a couple of discrete amp send and returns, as I said in the last post, given the huge cost of the unit? Just asking!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 лет назад
You can use any loop for the amps fx loop. The idea with using the volume pedal in conjunction with the amps FX loop in the insert is that depending on what side you place the volume pedal (before or after the pre amp) it will be reciting s low impedance signal and drive it perfectly do that you can use it to control gain and level if it goes in the front, or, a master volume if the volume pedal is between the amp fx send and the insert return.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 лет назад
The amps fx loop will never be bypassed, it's how you connect the pre amp. If you don't have any effects selected after the pre amp then the pre amp is connected directly to the power amp.
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