House of the Dragon Season 2 Episode 3 Discussion w/ Fantasy Haven 

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="89">1:29</a>:18 “Rhaenyra looks hot as a nun.” - Fantasy of house Haven, first of his name, the King in the North

RIP Bracken twink. We hardly knew ye.

To try to clarify some confusion here. The greens feel like the dragon pit incident was a loss for them because it happened right under the green's noses during Aegon's coronation. In terms of politics any time your enemy attacks and you aren't able to defend or prevent it, it reflects badly on your rule is perceived and will make people think "Well if he can't protect himself at his own coronation then he is weak, doesn't deserve respect, isn't fit to be king in the first place." and when you're fighting a war of legitimacy you don't want to give any ground when it comes to what people might think. On the subject of the green council advising not to have dragons follow their army, their argument is one of escalation prevention. If they use their dragons they are guaranteed that dragons will be used against them risking the lives of their dragons and riders. The issue is it will be obvious when either side uses their dragon as anyone will be able to spot them shadowing an army and thus they would have to respond with their own dragon and a fight between dragons is an incredible risk since their own leaders are the ones riding them and if they lose even one it could mean a total loss of the war. The concern brought up that their dragonless army would be attacked by a dragon is that if they did then they'd respond with their own which I'm guessing is what is going to happen because of Baela's stunt they're going to message back and call for support which is how we're going to have the escalation at Rook's Rest that results in what both sides were hoping to avoid.

When Coco Chanel said, "a woman who cuts her hair is about to change her life," she was preemptively talking about Crispy Cole. 😄

The only reason Rhaenyra managed to sneak in KL unscathed is because her name is Rhaenyra “Targaryen”. If her name is Rhaenyra “Stark” or “Martell”, her head would have fallen off immediately.

Don’t see how people see this episode as boring. We don’t need dragon fights and battles every episode. They touched on good points and set up for what’s to be a helluva episode

I hope we see Lady Jayne Arryn see the dragon Tyraxes and be slightly disappointed even though Rhaenyra technically kept up her end of the bargain

I'm sick of being edged by this show and not showing Sunfyre. The most beautiful dragon to ever live.

I love how ripped Aemond was because he’s described even as a baby as “half as robust as his elder brother, but twice as fierce”. And you also get the sense that Aegon is a little softer, like Viserys, in terms of body type, but it really gets to the point that Aemond could kill his brother easily-if he wanted to. Just like everyone always (accurately) said about Daemon and Viserys. The thing is that Aemond’s trauma from Aegon is much deeper and compounded by Rhaeneyra’s sons’ involvement. So Aegon needs to be very careful because if Aemond decided to kill his brother right now, he would become king, since Maelor has not been born yet according to the show.

i love the last scene although the circumstances how it got about are a bit out there but Some people dont like That Rhaenyra took such a risk but i actually love it she believes that it is worth risking herself to prevent a war before risking thousands of innocent men which makes sense with the song of ice and fire prophecy

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="73">1:13</a>:02 Alys Rivers: “Live Vhagar reaction is love. Live Vhagar reaction is life.”

So I'm not sure if you guys watch the after show called The house that dragons built, if not watching you definitely should as it's very informative. On that show they explain the reason they did not start the tapestry change until after episode 2 and it's because it would have almost been a spoiler if they had shown the funeral procession in the tapestry before they actually did the scene.

i actually love the end scene i feel like it totally goes with Rhaenyras character as she feels its worth risking her own life at a chance at peace if it will save thousands of lives and she is always portrayed as somewhat naive so this being a desperate last plan makes sense not saying its a good idea on her part but the writing makes sense

I think they meant that by bringing a dragon, that pretty much guarantees any encounter will escalate into a bloodbath. If they make a move without a dragon the Blacks will be more inclined to respond in kind, not risk a unilateral escalation. It kinda makes sense, but I'd agree that the Blacks have no army right now, so the only thing they are going to respond with are dragons.

Been subscribed to ya since last year (I think), but I gotta say im really enjoying your videos Quinn. Winter IS coming.

The last scene was absooutely phenomenal could not imagine thinking this isnt one of the best.

The egg retcon is one of those things where the writers wanted to feel special and connected to such an important character but just goes against so much established lore that i’m not even paying it any mind. It didn’t happen.

Fantasy Haven is on fire in this discussion episode

*spoiler talk* If we assume that Otto and Gwayne die different than in the books (which makes sense imo), my pet peeve is that Otto would die at after Tumbleton, possibly even serving a certain poisoned wine. Because with all the dark things he does, I have the specific impression that Otto is _not_ selfish. He does everything he does for the benefit of his House and/or the realm (or what he perceives their benefit). You can clearly see this when he gets booted by Viserys, and when he gets booted again by Aegon. In both cases he absolutely _believes_ that what he did was _best_, and not for his own benefit.

I could see Ulf and Hugh being brothers, and that’s how they connect as dragonseeds before heading to King’s Landing. Also, Varys is clearly amethyst coded.

Very mixed about this episode, some really strong scenes and some really weak ones

Aegon's friends are Red Shirts. 😂

5'8" is a short king? :o *cries in 5'5"*

I like bracken blackwood feud but otherwise the start was rough, Rhaenys-Rhaenyra and the rhaela scenes were kinda ehhh but the Harrenhal scenes were absolute peak i love all the new characters Gwayne, Alys, The Strongs! Bhaela was really cool The end was beautiful but i dont like the circumstances of how we got there, very season eight (the end didnt justify the means)

My guess is that they kinda dropped the ball with Rhaenyra the Pacifist post Luke's death. If Rhaenyra remained a pacifist after her son was killed, what could possibly propel her to go to war? The only way forward would be if she knows she is supported by her father through and through and that her song of ice and fire is reaffirmed. They kinda supported this scene with Daemon vs Rhaenyra last episode. I still think this is incredibly weak though, and they should make a more clever setup for this.

Valyrian steel armor doesn't just melt. In the books after Aegon the Conquer is burned by Balerion, Maegor takes Blackfyre from the pyre. There is a very plausible theory that spells and a blood sacrifice are needed in order to reforge Valyrian steel.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="89">1:29</a>:17 I have to agree.

TBH I don’t really have a problem with rhaenyra sneaking into king’s landing

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1722">28:42</a> You cant use a nuke because then they will use a nuke too.

I am very much enjoying the alliance between your two channels, hopefully it doesn't end with one of you brutally murdering the other.

I feel like the only one who actually liked the last scene

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Thailand is Switzerland? if you say so…

I would have loved the ending if was like a deleted scene or something. GOT has a couple of those that I really love but think they were cut for good reason.

I want to listen but the audio difference between you you 2 is rough. The convo is great but Quinn sounds like he is in the very back of the room. Way far away. Hope you can work it out!

HOUSE BRACKEN DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!!

I think these two are the most interesting ASOIAF youtubers these days IMO!!! But their joint videos are difficult bcoz Haven speaks too much compared to Quinn!! Also; I find his repeated interruptions annoying. Sometimes; he just does not listen to Quinn's comments at all. His constant comparison of their channels is cringe & tired. Just balance the conversation a bit better guys; otherwise do your individual streams / reviews.

I hate Rhaenys. She is such a smug hypocritical character.

Keep Rhaenys’ name out of your mouths. :(