"The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren't."
The thing I always dislike from this (entirely true) statement, is that it's difficult to argue with smart people for completely different reasons. Smart people - if they know what they're talking about, being smart doesn't make you an all-knowing expert of all things - it's difficult to argue with them because they're almost certainly right, and if you're arguing with them, it's because you BELIEVE they aren't... even if you KNOW they are. With stupid people, it's just... trying to come up with the right analogy or logic-puzzle to trick them into agreeing with you based on logic or an argument they already tried to use on you, and making them REALIZE that's what you/they did. It's trying to take an intrinsic fact, and bring it way, way down to their level, and then get them to accept it. Like tricking a dog to eat a pill in some cheese, because you can't possibly convince them that they need it. Sorry, this subject matter just... resonates with me.
Arguing with a fool is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how masterfully tutored you've been in the theory, how sound your thinking and strategy is, or how good you are at the game in general, the pigeon is always going to knock over the chess pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
This is like going to a movie theater, buying a ticket for a movie, watching the movie, leaving the theater, driving home, and then coming back the next day threatening to call the cops because the movie was on Netflix.
As someone in customer service I feel this. Had a woman come up to me recently asking if something was on sale. I asked where she saw a sale price so I could find out and she says that there wasn’t one, she just figured they’d be on sale. She gets annoyed at me calmly telling her that unless someone changed the price in the system for no reason and told NOBODY, then it wasn’t on sale. She asks me how I could know for sure and having no way to do that I just tell her to go through a self checkout and cancel if it wasn’t on sale. She tells me TO MY FACE that I’m not very helpful, walks off, tells my coworker that I’m bad at my job, and then walks back and tells me “They aren’t on sale just so you know.” YES! I KNOW! THATS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL YOU! YOU CAN’T JUST MAKE UP A SALE AND THEN GET UPSET WHEN IT DOESN’T EXIST!
@@AllHailDiskordia That's pretty much it, some people's are either bored or just want to start an argument to vent the anger that they got from home or work problems that they cant react to without consequences. Or they just want to argue for the sake of arguing.
When the tech guy said "I could tell you the world is flat". I totally expected a guy like Ken to be like, "What are you talking about...the world *IS* flat" And tech guy is like "Ok, this all makes sense now."
@@ChewyChicken589 in this case it'd be unironically. As the joke comes from an episode of Arthur, where someone genuinely didnt understand that concept. So in this case, the genuine-ness makes it seem morr unironic.
"White rice does not repair an electrical connection that's damaged." "How do you know what was wrong with it?" "Because I went through it, looked at it, and found the problem" "You didn't need to" Dude... This guy is possibly the most intelligent man alive.
Oh man, so not even the "remove battery, dry it out and wipe it down with alcohol" method would work. Actually vaporized a part of the circuit during a short.
@@manictiger that usually happens when you try to turn it on or plug it in while it's still wet. If your phone gets wet and you want the biggest chances you can get to save it then you do the following; Do not turn it on. Do not plug it in. Remove the battery immediately if your phone allows it. Set in a warm dry place, preferably in the sun, like a window sill or something. I've saved a couple phones by doing that. My gfs Xbox was completely submerged in a flood so I had her do these things and even to my surprise it booted up a couple weeks later with no issues. Both her controllers and her laptop were ruined though. She had to replace those.
@@klaytonb9609 Thank you for the advice. I saved my original flip phone after it took a short ride in the washing machine by removing the battery and submerging the whole thing in rice. Keep in mind: This only works for fresh water! I later walked into the ocean with my next phone in the pocket of my trunks, and there was no saving that from the salt left behind.
@@donnylurch4207 you're welcome, personally I doubt rice helps at all really. I never used rice I just did the steps I listed whenever I got my phone wet. Like I said though, it's not a guaranteed fix. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It depends on the build quality of the technology in question as well as how quick you are at these steps, as well as if there was an electrical signal sent through it while wet. That'll blow connections if that does happen.
Rice is very absorbent so the reason it worked for few cases of people phones getting water damage, was because it could have been completely submerged or not, but it was barely in the water for 30 seconds if that, that’s the reason the rice works for those phones, since the water hasn’t had time to get into every circuit and fry every motherboard, this is also the reason restaurants have rice in their salt shakers, to keep the salt dry and to keep the salt from clumping up
fun facf, water itself isnt necessarily damaging to electronics, all the lime, and other minerals in the water that attack and stick to the circuitery is what does it. if you submerge a phone in distilled water and then wait for it to dry out completely before firing it up, itll most likely be just fine.
Well no - rice isn’t particularly absorbent - if you leave your phone out on the counter more water will be absorbed into the air then if you stuff it in a bag of rice. Even desiccants, which are designed to suck water out of things dont absorb more water than the air. Why? Because desiccants/rice suck in water, but the water stays in the rice/desiccant. If you leave your phone out on the table, dry air is constantly blowing over your phone. Its the difference between putting a glass of water in a sealed box with a towel, and constantly wiping it down with new, disposable paper towels
@@sonofsparda657eh, not really. There will be tons of contaminants/salts on the circuit board you’re submerging your electronics in, so while THEORETICALLY you can do that, PRACTICALLY your phone will blow up 999 times out of 1000. But generally, if you let your electronics dry out for a week before turning them on/plugging them in, they’ll be fine, but thats different
As a person who works in fast food/customer service, yeah. Shit's fucked up and absolutely barbaric. It's crazy, no matter how many times you explain something to someone they wont understand 💀
That’s what makes this funny. Like Charlie said, people like him and his generation get roasted all the time for that kind of thing on the internet and I actually thought they settled down. As soon as he said he talked to someone about that method, I was like ohh no, they’ve resurfaced.
i find it hilarious cause the moment this happens again and he uses rice and it doesnt work the friend that told him it would is going to be in this exact situation
Sending love to all peeps currently working in customer service ❤ Seriously, thank you, and sorry that you guys gotta put up with this shit. Don't understand why people can't handle things in a kind and mature manner.
Some people are douche-bags by nature. Others by nurture. And a number of them are just bored, so they start arguments. Especially if they're terminally online
no it was kinda helping his point since the employee said something which was obviously wrong ("the earth is flat") and the npc douchebag said "many people would tell me it isn‘t" which would mean that "many people" would be in the right here and the employee was lying. But on a higher level where it is just "many people disagree with the employee" it would kinda make sense for the employee but still not a great point to make from him.
People like this will always exist in customer service jobs lol. I’ve been serving tables for 9 years and the amount of times I’ve been told I’m wrong by a customer is insane. The worst was when I was working at TGI Fridays and we had the unlimited appetizers promotion going on… it says clearly on the menu “one per person” and people would still come in in groups of like 6 and try to argue with me when they’re charged 6 times for the offer and then then when I point it out on the menu they refuse to pay.
This is like the equivalent of breaking a bone, going to a doctor, getting a cast put on, and returning the next day to complain that they didn’t just use a bandaid.
It's like social anxiety in reverse. Some people get bad service and avoid complaining so that they can just move on with their day. Then there's this guy.
there was such a simple response from the worker that i don't understand why it was never asked.. "You told me white rice wouldn't work. I came all the way here for you to fix it and I didn't need to." "Okay, so why did you come down then?"
I've met guys like this before, they're so convinced that they're in the right that they'll say and do some of the dumbest things. It's pure entitlement.
I work in retail. This is the kind of guy that swears up and down that I messed up his order and how dare I say he's wrong. I show them the P.O. and it's the same as the receipt and he STILL says I'm wrong. I just say "i'm sorry I can't help you then. You can go somewhere else." when I start with the next customer, they just look shocked and mortified. that look brings me joy :)
That’s not entitlement that’s ignorance. Ora combination of both. Maybe he’s an expert on something so he thinks technology fixes are just going to be the same. Black or white no inbetween
Don’t you start treating “entitlement” the same way this guy treats rice. Entitlement has no relevance here any more than rice has relevance to broken phones.
@@notaspy1227 It's about what attracts the most attention. If all the bots were spamming "I love blue flowers", nobody would give them attention. But if they spout racist bullshit, some 14 year old blue haired girl will be sure to click on their profile or reply.
The "white rice hack" got passed around a lot and somewhere it changed from what is true that the dry rice soaks up water off your phone and turned into the legendary all purpose white rice that can repair circuits and connections lol
I didn’t fully piece together how stupid this was until you said that “he did his job and he did it well, and the customer STILL complained and got into an argument with him”
Every time I watch one of his videos, I see the view count and it always gives me hope that people are watching these videos and hopefully getting a valuable lesson learned. Now Charlie is in a therapist or anything but at least his logic makes sense and it’s honestly quite appropriate.
@@JosePerez1220 this is true but according to my boss there is fear they will sue us for discrimination..for real he believes when I kicked some dumb ass kids out for stealing that I was in the wrong because they wrote some Google review about getting kicked out for stealing..we are living in a backwards ass clown world
Pro tip for these situations: turn into a robot and just keep dodging the conversation. All you have to do is keep saying "Yes, how can I assist you further?" or something like that. They'll get mad that you're not arguing with them and eventually they leave or just demand a corporate number
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Can confirm, does work. I just go into limbo mode "sir if you have a complaint please blah blah...." If he then asks a completely unrelated question or wants further help "sir if you have a complaint please blah blah blah..." Based on your comment, from now on I'm calling this getting put in the robot zone,
After working 8 years in customer service, the amount of times customers have claimed that they will call the cops is more than I can remember. The amount of times they actually did call the cops was twice. Both times the customer got scolded by police for wasting their time.
As someone who used to do phone/laptop repairs 99% of the time the rice thing doesn't really work. The amount of laptops I had to replace a part/parts on with rice all over the inside is hilarious. The amount of water that rice would potentially save you from isn't enough water to usually kill whatever you're trying to save if you just got the water off normally and let it dry. Also this type of costumer is insanely common because of how much value people put into their phones and laptops. The amount of "can you move my repair to the front of the line, my phone is my life" me and my co workers heard. Like bro everyone says that.
Just to let everyone know, dont argue with these type of people, walk away and ignore them they like to argue, even when they're wrong they're right it's called narcicism (let the comment below be a lesson on these type of people, where in my original comment did I refer to this cashier, I said " to let everyone know") as I said, some people like to debate and purposely misunderstand you
I used to hate that working in customer service people thinking they’re entitled to be moved to some sort of “priority” because they asked nicely like you don’t see people say some magic words in a mcdonalds drive thru and suddenly cruise past everyone else in line and get their food, you aren’t on your phone with customer service while waiting and ask them to drop whatever they’re doing and instantly tend to you, don’t think it works here and don’t think you’re an exception you’ll be handled when they get to you and those people who come in after the store already closed and begs their way in 🤦🏽♂️ the store isn’t boobytrapped with bombs at night its not gonna blow up overnight just come back tomorrow and let the employees get home safely
@@bknighty28 Broooo yess!! That's what I thought! He doesn't look like Jeff that much but a 100% talks like him. Like, he has the same speech mannerisms.
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The idea is that rice is supposed to act like a desiccant and a'd'sorb moisture from the phone. But there's a big difference between adsorb and absorb, and even if it dries the phone internally, it still doesn't guarantee anything will work. Water is a conductor. If it leaks to the point of shorting out circuits, then arcing happens, things that shouldn't get energized are energized, voltage spikes happen in components that can't handle it, and the result is actual physical damage.
I could absolutely never work in customer service like this. You guys out there working jobs like this are fuckin incredible and I respect that capability in you all.
I'm a service advisor at a muffler shop, we get people like this pretty often, they ask us to do the work and when they see the price tag they are all of a sudden experts on exhaust systems and know a guy who can do it cheaper. We pride ourselves on our work but also in our ability to tell those customers to fuck off because we are the best in our area, we take zero bullshit from these people. It's the first job I've had where I feel I have power againt customers.
This man seems to have a lot of time on his hands just to go back to the store, argue and be petty with a possibly underpaid employee who HELPED him with his problem.
The phone in rice thing has worked twice for me once when I dropped it in the sink and worked one condensation in camera and the rice thing only works if you really quick at getting it out and get in the rice and still it's not guaranteed to work
the absolute worst is when you’re dealing with a customer like this guy and he frustrates you to the point where your voice wavers or your eyes tear up and he’s smiling all smug like he enjoys it?? it’s seriously so sick and demented i wish we could just throw ppl like that out no questions asked over this kind of harassment. customer service work is hard and underpaid!!!
Customer service workers are the unsung heroes of this world. They deserve sainthood if they can keep their sanity and decency after working w/ ppl. for more than a year.
I work in a phone repair store as a technician, and I remember see this video going viral amount the repair community.. still blows my mind to this day hahaha
The sad thing is, we all know deep down that he probably knows his complaint is irrational, and that he's just trying to raise enough hell to pressure the staff/manager into giving him something for free.
"Sir, my employee repaired an electrical connection that had been damaged when your phone short-circuited from being wet. The law protects you from scams, not from being a dumbass."
@@NikeaTiber Not to mention, if you go to a professional to have repair work done, there is no payment loophole that says "If you could have done it yourself, it's free".
I hate people that do this so much, when I worked in fast food we had this woman come in and complain that her food wasn't fresh after she let it sit for like 3 hours, like no shit it isn't fresh you dumb fuck
As a repair tech: this dude is one of literally 1000s of people I've dealt with. As a little fact for yall... rice only works if the water has not gotten into the device itself. Like if you drop it in a very shallow puddle and pick it up right away, where the water doesn't get further than the charge port. Even then it's not 100%. Water damage repairs need actual equipment and knowledge to fix.
This!!! When I see customers who walked into my TMobile store, people who were doing that mostly just got rice all over the innards of the phone and did more harm than good.b
I spilled tap water on a laptop once, and ended up with actual mineral deposits on the mobo lmao. I'm sure white rice would have fixed it though, the guy who took it apart and properly cleaned it definitely scammed me.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure the rice trick only "works" on occasion because it keeps people from using their wet phones and shorting a circuit. The rice doesn't do anything itself (and the little rice particles probably aren't good) but if you're lucky and got your phone turned off in time, it might prevent ya from making anything worse!
Yes and you'd be right but you don't want to be arguing about it with the customer no matter how stupid they are. The object is to make them happy so they come back for repeat business and that they don't go tell ten people about the bad experience they had with you. Because that's exactly what happens - on average customers will tell ten people they had a bad experience with you. And it'll be like ten years later when they retell their bad experience.
Water especially tap is conductive, conductive substance + electronics = damaged circuits. If the phone was off then yes, white rice and drying would fix it no problem. On another note, don’t use rice people, cat litter works so much better.
I believe that the rice stuff came with the extra info of either turning your phone off, or removing the battery. If no current can flow, no circuits get shorted, the rice then takes the moisture out of the phone. But that takes time, so if still on, the phone can short if water comes at a bad spot
"This guy looks so familiar..." Yeah, this dude knows everything there is to know about dinosaurs and how to survive them but he doesn't know how phones work
“Im not an expert so Im gonna defer to the guy that is” As a former IT pro turned Dev you might be shocked to learn how many people will come to you for your expertise. Tell you how much they arent a “techie” them proceed to not follow any instructions and tell you all the things that definitely should fix the issue and what 100% caused it.
im the sort of person who tells the hairstylist to just go off because i don't even trust my own opinion on what haircut i want. to be so confident about something that isn't even a matter of personal preference is baffling to me.
The rice method works sometimes but not always. It only works in mild cases cuz what it does is absorbs the water it touches but if it gets inside your phone it likely won't work unless it drips out of the phone. The rice method is overrated as hell, and rice can be replaced by any absorbant item wrapping it in a cloth
on the rice thing- it works only if you are fast enough with turning the phone off and shaking or suctioning the water out FIRST. this has worked for me several times, physically removing the water as best as I can before the damage happens, THEN leaving it in rice for several hours before turning it back on. it does a good job of getting out small amounts of moisture, but a biblical storm of water... no. no, the rice would not save you.
I worked in retail and I've seen this type many times. He knows he's wrong, he's looking to wear you down talking in circles by "being right" because he wants a discount or free service.
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Same here, worked at Best Buy for a little bit, it's amazing how fucking stupid some people make themselves look for a free item. It's a little sad how quickly they sacrifice their dignity for something that won't happen
Yeah, they're like the people who go to checkout at a place like Walmart or Target, and get mad and insist that an item was on sale and harass the cashier to try to get them to reduce the price. Fuck working in retail.
The rice thing does work if youre quick enough but you gotta leave it there for definitely a day. My wife dropped her phone in the toilet and it stopped it from being damaged Rice absorbs moisture and if you get it out of water asap and dont actually try to use the phone it will help. It isnt gonna fix the damage after its done just prevent it if youre quick enough.
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This is like going to a restaurant, ordering the most expensive item on the menu, going back home, and then realize the next day that you could have made food at your house instead of going to a restaurant and then going back to said restaurant to complain.
I've dealt with people like this in customer service before. Most of them know they're full of shit, but they think that if they argue hard and long enough people will give them their money back or give them what they want, just to get rid of them. The sad fact is that often they're right, as a lot of the time people just cave and give them what they want. The people who know they're in the wrong are just impossible to argue with, because there's literally nothing you can say can get through to them because it's all an act anyway.
I'm in IT and while thankfully i never had an issue like that come up i've known other IT guys/repair guys who have. What you do is explain the issue in super detail, being as verbose as possible. If they want to act stupid and disrespectful... make them feel stupid in a professional manner.
This is the way. I've had so many customers try to argue with me about shit they know literally nothing about 😂 walking them through why they're wrong step by step usually shuts them up... Until you get someone who refuses to accept that they're wrong
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@@ItzMalick this is way better than the annoying bots, so I actually checked out the channel. Not for me personally but I respect the grind and the manner of your comment. Good luck
The sad fact is that guys like these could actually call the police for it , the police are already too busy with all their cases and they still have to respond to these kind of calls, damn, that is justice for you
And when I call them because my neighbour who literally threatened my life a few days ago has called two friends who parked in front my place and are being super suspicious leaning in their car while the engine is inexplicably turned on for over half an hour... they don't come. I'd need to get murdered first.
And they will probably be warned that if they call the police again about this matter, they will receive a hefty fine and potentially face criminal charges for wasting police officers time. Not saying this stops this in anyway, but it does make a bit of a deterrent and cuts off any continuously abusive behavior.
As a dutch person this is such a culture shock to me. We would have cut that guy off at the first inkling of this stupid story and would have told him to call the cops as we'll be busy working. Everyone in customer care: You do not need to keep conversation with a rude customer or a customer who keeps repeating the same thing. Stop allowing them to waste your time. Let them return to you as soon as they're capable of treating you like a human being. I've seen too many US customers get what they dont deserve by throwing a tantrum.
as someone who got suspended from my previous job(ended up getting a new one during that suspension), for complaining to a fellow employee about a customer who was treating me like crap (was working at a gas station, customer ignored signs and messed up filling up their gas(which was and still is in most areas illegal to self-serve in the state I live in)). I can tell you that most costumer service people in the US, if they want to keep their jobs do actually have to let them waste your time.
@@tygovisser5626 it is except when you have 200 emails to answer, 40 guests wanting to book tee times and your managers taking a piss outta you because you left the printer on overnight 3 weeks ago x)
Sorry to burst your bubble but a little insider knowledge, America trains us workers under “The customer is always right” you can’t argue with them, during my time working at electronic stores the asset protection team wasn’t allowed to touch or confront thief’s, people could and did walk out with Xbox’s and ps4s, all they could do was record and report as not to risk a lawsuit for assault.
As a repair technichian who works on water damged devices every day, PLEASE NEVER put you device in rice. Dust from the rice gets inside the phone, and most of my job is cleaning out the inside of the device so i can see what the problem is. If your phone gets drenched, turn it off immediately, wrap it in a towel and wait. It will do the same as the rice, and if your phone needs to be fixed, its much more likely to happen without dust all througout the phone.
Hey this is somewhat random but.. I have a very old phone that has some songtexts and a stand up show I wrote long ago. Its incredibly valuable to me so I never got rid of the phone.. A drunk bar girl accidentally threw it in a dishwasher and didn't notice until the dishwasher was done. Do you think there's any data I could somehow save?
@@Quibblies :'( Where is the data stored on the phone exactly if it's not on a SD card? Would it be possible to buy a new phone, disassemble both and put only the piece with the data from my old phone in the new phone?
@@sirweebs2914 you can clean it and dry it. That could work but you have to take the whole thing apart. Use 70% alcohol. Your big issue is going to be minerals etc that are left behind. A repair shop can do it. There's these ultrasonic cleaners that kinda do it for you that they should have
@@jeremyklein953 there aren't any repair shops for phones here in Austria :/ only ones that are here aren't private so you can't just bring your old phone
This is like yelling at the hospital for saving your life because you learn on WebMD that you could’ve just gone to the doctor and saved a couple of hundred dollars
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@@palindrome1959 Fatality ! I remember a while back when working at CVS, a customer wanted to know what was the price for an item. I told him its "x" amount and he said "I'm paying for that much!" My quick refute was, "Then don't buy the item..." The most satisfying moment came when the dude walked out the store in bewilderment.
He made me cackle dude. I could tell he just went with it like "ok, you wanna play this game? fine" and went full crackhead conspiracy nut and the dude was so unprepared for the way he turned his bringing up of the world being flat around. Brilliant
I have met people like this most in my life, the most stupidest thing I have ever experienced from them is you “try to explain and tries to interrupt you” 🙄
Working as a tire technician. I couldn't help but roll my eyes at people thinking I was scamming them for saying they need new tires because they are riding on the cords, or that the nail in their sidewall was not fixable. I feel like at least 1/5 of people would act like this guy and its actually shameful.
