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How Dead By Daylight is NOT Beginner Friendly... (Rant) 

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Dead By Daylight is one of the least beginner friendly "competitive" experiences in the videogame market. Not because the game itself is hard, but because the tutorials and perk design fall short to the standard quality of videogames in 2024.
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00:00 Get Ready for 50 Minutes of Ranting
02:28 Chapter 1- Bad Tutorials
04:58 The Survival Tutorial
12:55 The Killer Tutorial
17:15 The Game Manual
21:50 Chapter 2 - Bad Explanations
24:02 An Example of Power
33:47 Chapter 3 - The Boring Grind
37:35 The Survivor Grind
41:46 The Killer Grind
48:31 Conclusion
Some of the Music Used:
Virbank City: Remastered (Extended Version) ► Pokémon Black & White 2
Mewmore // Join Avenue (Pokémon Black 2 & White 2)
22 Pokemon Battle Revolution OST "Neon Colosseum"
Team Galactic HQ: Remastered ► Pokémon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl
Mewmore // Dreamyard (Pokémon Black and White Remix)
Mewmore // Skyarrow Bridge (Pokémon Black & White Remix)
Mewmore // Snowpoint City (Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Remix)
Mewmore // Cianwood City (Pokémon Gold & Silver Remix)
Mewmore // Team Skull (Pokémon Sun & Moon Remix)
Mewmore // Night in Canalave (Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Remix)
Mewmore // Great Fairy's Fountain (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Remix)
Mewmore // Battle Factory (Pokémon Platinum Remix)
Mewmore // Lost Woods (The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past Remix)
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@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
DISCLAIMER: The % I did regarding the locked content a new player will have is WRONG! I counted it as a PC player without the console characters, so the error margin is around 5% for the total! I wanted to talk about a topic that, for some reason, almost nobody talks of in the community, and that's how TERRIBLE the new player experience is for Dead By Daylight. Back when the game was still fresh and the content was small, this was not a big deal. DbD was a scary experience, and not knowing anything is part of the charm. Nowadays, with the introduction of the aggresive SBMM, Dead By Daylight is far from a "casual" experience. With over 35 killer powers to learn, each with 20 addons to choose from, 255 perks that can alter the match, maps with RNG generation and veterans with thousands of hours of experience, Dead By Daylight is not beginner friendly. The issue I find is that the game's core is becoming simplified in terms of mechanics, when the game itself is already easier than League, Valorant or any other true competitive game. What DbD needs is to become BEGINNER FRIENDLY, and it's ridicuouls how the Mobile version of Dead By Daylight is significantly more noob friendly than the pc and console version of the game. The tutorial is horrible and this video will prove it, the grind and perk unlock system is daunting and unrewarding for the vast majority of casuals, and the scam of secrets is an insult that only exists as a scapegoat for this game not to be accused of "pay 2 win" when it already has pay 2 win mechanics in the means of "Pay 2 Skip" If you are a veteran, and you played with someone you wanted to introduce into the game, you probably noticed how many things you take for granted that are very confusing for new players. Like 99% the gates, where generators spawn, how items work, killer powers and counters.... I hope this video is useful to prove how bad the casual experience of DbD is if you don't play this game every week and are up to date with the reworks and changes killer powers have, like the future Twins update.
@BasementDweller_
@BasementDweller_ Месяц назад
Thanks for clarifying.
@obliveratrix8917
@obliveratrix8917 Месяц назад
As someone who's not ready to play matches outside of custom games yet (started in November) this is so true. I think more content that helps new players learn about Perks, Killers and Fundamentals would be great.
@AlexTechie
@AlexTechie Месяц назад
The Alt-Right is misleading the devs and are behind all the bad decisions in DBD 😭
@codywasson5894
@codywasson5894 Месяц назад
So how would you going about fixing the game to make it new player friendly?
@TheTrial-np9qy
@TheTrial-np9qy 14 дней назад
Old video , But the veterans are bad at the game too lol
@GodWorksOut
@GodWorksOut Месяц назад
I can confirm as a new player I’m either getting slaughtered by killers in two minutes or watching the killer roam the entire map and never finding anyone
@slaayerr1
@slaayerr1 7 дней назад
If you're being slaughtered very fast it's probably being unfamiliar with the map. Either spend a lot of time in custom games to learn them or invest in getting Kate for the windows of opportunity perk so you can see vaults and pallets. Also don't play as tall characters or bright characters if you want to not be spotted constantly. They unfortunately removed a lot of the base fog in the game so killers can see you across most maps now
@GodWorksOut
@GodWorksOut 7 дней назад
@@slaayerr1 from the time of that comment I made rank 1, then got my salad tossed after reset
@slaayerr1
@slaayerr1 7 дней назад
@GodWorksOut hahaha yeah reaching rank 1 has always been a rough turning point for killers and survivors. It hits hard when suddenly a lot of your games turn very difficult
@ThrowAway-gu2lw
@ThrowAway-gu2lw Месяц назад
Things I, a 2000 hour player, learned from this video: -Xenomorph can detect you if you run while they are tunneling -Xenomorph disables turrets near the tunnel it comes out of -Trickster has a combo mechanic (???) -Wesker has less cooldown the more survivors he infects -Singularity has a longer overclock the more survivors are slipstreamed I think that demonstrates just how bad the problem is LOL
@JustRhysky
@JustRhysky Месяц назад
Trickster has a combo mechanic? What’s the combo mechanic???
@eGrillad
@eGrillad Месяц назад
@@JustRhysky A short timer, counting how many consecutive knives you hit that then adds up and extends your next Main Event by a few seconds depending on how good your "combo" was!
@mariorivera1800
@mariorivera1800 Месяц назад
Its even worse when I tell you I have 4000 hours and just learned about the Trickster one and the Singularity one 😅
@ronanjoyce9862
@ronanjoyce9862 Месяц назад
Its not just running w xeno. If you walk or run it tracks you. Unless you have a flame tureet if you move it tracks you
@Epitafffio
@Epitafffio Месяц назад
Here's another cool info about xenomorph: His killer instinct reveal when he emerges from tunnel has the SAME range as the aura radius of tunnels. If you can see the aura of the control station, that means xenomorph will be able to detect you upon emerging.
@michellerahe4853
@michellerahe4853 Месяц назад
One of the main problems is 90% of the free survivor and killer perks are absolutely useless or offer little value. I get it they're not supposed to be too crazy or op but perks like Kindred and Deja Vu are perfect mix for someone who's new or very casual
@shuiinii9181
@shuiinii9181 Месяц назад
Beginners still have the free killers and survivors they can get perks from, but survivors have significantly better free teachable perks than killers If you really want to win as killer you're kind of forced to pay, because Agitation + (nerfed) Sloppy butcher + NOED + Nurses calling can only get you so far against survivors with optimized builds
@maxdragonslayer
@maxdragonslayer Месяц назад
​@shuiinii9181 agreed, and if you work for a living, you aren't going to be able to buy anything for the longest time, meaning you are going to lose alot and once the next broken thing is out your going to lose more as you cant buy them right off the bat but everyone else will
@muysli.y1855
@muysli.y1855 Месяц назад
The free Killer perks are more worst
@dkres82
@dkres82 Месяц назад
For killer yes, but not survivor. The only thing you have to pay for as survivor currently for meta is Windows and an Anti Tunnel perk, other than that base game has survivors covered pretty well. Sprint Burst, Adrenaline, Prove, Deja Vu, Sabotage, Kindred, you can get some really good builds.
@jackkeane4363
@jackkeane4363 Месяц назад
the free survivor perks are better than paid
@deathdefying1472
@deathdefying1472 Месяц назад
Yeah the game isn’t beginner friendly when half the rounds are toxic swf and 85% od characters you have to pay for. Cant even imagine starting dbd nowadays
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
Same, I was lucky that I started in 2016, because I would not recommend this game to anyone nowadays despite how much I love it due to how daunting the new experience is.
@draconianink4843
@draconianink4843 Месяц назад
I started last month. It was miserable but I just hit Gold 1 with Pig and Legion
@nickphaux
@nickphaux Месяц назад
I've always had the game but I started playing last year and just got back into it recently during blood moon, I'm honestly probably as addicted now as most players were at its peak. I just have fun most of the time when looping, and the rare occasion I get owned its honestly whatever 🤷. I really like this game and it's mechanics are still fresh to me
@Absaek
@Absaek Месяц назад
I started playing around Chucky's release and I now have every single character in the game prestige 3 or over about 5 months later. I bought most of the DLCs during the Christmas sale and spent slightly over 100€ total. That being said, I fully agree this game isn't beginner friendly for casual players. However, if you are willing to commit a lot of your free time to playing this game and spending a bit of money on it, then it's... Fine. You could probably unlock everything on everyone playing semi-casual/semi-hardcore in less than a year. I wish it weren't this inaccessible, but that's the unfortunate reality. Edit: P.S. I had a little over 1000 hours total after finishing the grind (that includes spending a lot of time afk in the game lobby).
@scorpihoee
@scorpihoee Месяц назад
i recently restarted on my ps4 (since there's no cross progression 🙃) and i got out very easily using all base game perks. it's just practice and skill.
@Firyfloof
@Firyfloof Месяц назад
Whenever i face people as a twins main, if the game is going horribly because i can recognize people don't understand the mechanics, i show people what they can do just so they have some understanding of how to counter them, like victor being able to jump over through windows, over pallets, and the fact they can't leave with victor on there back, im going to continue my twins teaching when the rework happens
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
That's kind to do for new players. Twins is an example of killer power that, unless survivors know their power, she is super busted
@onionwarlock7407
@onionwarlock7407 Месяц назад
I started actually playing during the 2023 anniversary was pretty beginner friendly
@patrikresz2706
@patrikresz2706 Месяц назад
@@MintSkull I remember I started to main Twins very early too, and I do remember that survivors did not understand the power at all . Even now with more than 1,5k hours some survivors still don't know about the Victor exit gate blocking mechanic.
@korjezilla
@korjezilla Месяц назад
Every time I face twins (once in 3 months) one of my EXPERIENCED teammates died to VictorWarden because they just don't know it exists and that you should NOT teabag victor on the gates
@babyghast4379
@babyghast4379 Месяц назад
Wow, I never thought about doing this as a The Twins Main, I will be doing this myself! Thank you for teaching me how to teach people.
@misterRedy
@misterRedy Месяц назад
I can't believe that the dead by daylight mobile tutorial is better, they literally show you how meg is looping trapper like a God and wasting the killer time, better than me I'd say, I wish they show us more about how pallets can be used in the pc tutorial, same for vaults❤
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
Absurd how the mobile version of the game is miles ahead than console DbD, the only issue is that the monetization is indeed taking advantage of the fact it's a Free 2 Play game on mobile
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN Месяц назад
Isn’t mobile version released by another company and not BHvr though?
@misterRedy
@misterRedy Месяц назад
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN it is made by both the company netease and bhvr, so the answer is yes and no
@hitbyatank
@hitbyatank Месяц назад
@@MintSkull I highly prefer dbd mobile over the real game 🤷 it’s FREE and I can be ass at the game and still have fun aka not dying at 4-5 gens and feeling like I’m not getting any better at all.
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Skill issue bro
@FungiGamer
@FungiGamer Месяц назад
One of the biggest issues is how the game goes out of its way to avoid explaining the “killer in chase” icon with the wiggling tendrils on the character portraits. This is a VITAL indicator for survivors that no one seems to know about aside from those lucky enough to see the loading screen tip. Soooooo many times I have seen the auras of survivors half way across the map hide in lockers the SECOND they hear a minimum terror radius even though I’ve clearly been in chase for a minute and a half Legit I’ve met players who went HALF A YEAR not knowing this. We need a PSA or something
@GanjjaCat
@GanjjaCat Месяц назад
For the first few hundred hours I put into this game, I didn't understand that bottom left UI at ALL. I did not understand what the obsession was, I didn't understand why it wiggled sometimes or why the wiggles were smaller or larger. I didn't understand thats wherre killer powers were shown for prigress. I mean the game just gives you 0 indecation outside those small tooltips on truly how to understand that UI at all. Don't even get me started on status effects and how long those took me to figure out... especially when most of them are NOT intuitive at all and whatever you assume the effect would be based on the picture isn't that at all.
@imdva
@imdva Месяц назад
@@GanjjaCat the status effects complaint is so real. other than exhaust and broken, there is no way for you to know what the other ones do unless you play killer.
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Skill issue
@Fullmetal14789
@Fullmetal14789 26 дней назад
As soon as i saw the mechanic come out my brain went "that looks like the thing when the obsession is being chased" and was almost immediately proven right when i was being chase. Also @imdva isn't there an instruction section for survivors, killers and general play somewhere in the help tab? Any time i was confused about a status i went there. Please correct me if it doesn't exist anymore
@LoveEachDay94
@LoveEachDay94 20 дней назад
@@imdvaI’ve been playing dbd since it came to console day 1 and I only recently learned that mangled doesn’t just make you bleed more lol
@thelegendaryorcgenocider4182
@thelegendaryorcgenocider4182 Месяц назад
I think the whole horror game feel should be kept, but also a way to make it more fair to new players; Have a glossary be updated depending on perks you run into, or already have. This makes it so the first encounter with a Killer or perk, the Mystique of the Killer and perk can be kept, but also gives the survivor the information they need to get better and understand the game a lot more. I think the game should strive for both. Otherwise, the game is a sweatfest, and nothing more.
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
That's a super cool idea!
@GoldHeartWarrior
@GoldHeartWarrior Месяц назад
So for example: Let's say that I encountered a killer that has a perk like No One Escapes Death, that gets added on the glossary on what it does. Am I getting this right?
@gh0stf4ce84
@gh0stf4ce84 Месяц назад
Somehow, the Mobile version has this. The game teaches you about perks and killers after a match and give you BPs for reading about it. I still impressed that some resources in mobile are not available on Core
@GoldHeartWarrior
@GoldHeartWarrior Месяц назад
I see, interesting tho. I'll love to see that as a feature.
@scorpihoee
@scorpihoee Месяц назад
the item thing is so true. i had absolutely no idea what the flashlight was for, everything else was pretty much self explanatory. i rlly used to use flashlights to see better 😭
@UncontainablePickle-_420
@UncontainablePickle-_420 Месяц назад
I'm sure we all tried it when we first got into dbd. I just thought "man this flashlight sucks"
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN Месяц назад
Omg same, like in dark basements 😂
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
A lot of games you have to see what yoy do wrong or see be used in different way to understand. Could be better. The flashlight thing you said is straight noob hilarious though 😂
@camdenkelley8542
@camdenkelley8542 Месяц назад
first time i got a flashlight i used it to light places up because thats exactly what i thought, never knew it was for blinding.
@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64
@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64 Месяц назад
A nearly one hour video? With no split screen playing Subway Surfers? Madness, my rotted brain can’t handle it!
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Can’t play a game like Sunshine saying this.
@MegitsuneSwe
@MegitsuneSwe Месяц назад
as an ex-veteran of the game (stopped playing around 2021), I learned more from this video than having played a few matches, as well as having re-done the tutorial. whilst I have been able to quickly adapt to a lot of the changes due to my previous experience with the game, there are still things that are left un answered, that I would have to go out of my way in order to find out, when the game itself could easily and quickly explain it, such as how big the radius is for the whole anti-camping mechanic is. What should be done are these things; -Make two types of tutorials, a beginner tutorial, and an advanced tutorial, with the advanced one showing more technical things like looping, the anti-camping mechanic in more detail, totems (although this should be in the beginner one), etc. -Make a tutorial for every killer, showcasing each killers power from both the survivor and killer perspective within the same guide. This is a lofty task to get done for BHVR, but is incredibly important in teaching some of the fundementals of the game. Nurse has a completely different playstyle from say Onryo, and with the current system can easily get confusing. As someone who back in 2018 picked The Nurse without knowing I even had a power, that ended up being a very interesting match. -Keep the game manual, but include short videos showcasing what's being talked about, and mention EVERYTHING. Every status effect, briefly explain what every killers power does, explain when the anti-kick feature kicks in (no pun intended), etc. This can get confusing, but this is a game manual, it should include everything. -Possibly mention the community made content, encouraging people to go out and watch other people play the game. Doesn't have to mention anyone specifically, but could mention for instance the Fog Whisperer program and that they are "verified" content creators for the game, as in they are endorsed by the developers, and be like "hey, this is the fog whisperer icon, keep an eye out for it". -Make a tutorial for the menus, showcasing how loadouts work, the rift, shop, etc. This can be figured out easily be the player themselves, but would be a short and simple tutorial to get anyone up to speed. Could also explain things like the currencies.
@JustRhysky
@JustRhysky Месяц назад
Heavy agree, especially with the tutorial for every killer since it could also allow for new players to figure out what killers they would want to save up for/buy immediately first!
@MegitsuneSwe
@MegitsuneSwe Месяц назад
@@JustRhysky that too, absolutely. ultimately, I think BHVR should either; A) make all non-licensed killers free for everyone or B) make the base game free for everyone with option A being the superior option for us consumers. paying 20$ only to get about 30% of the characters in the game is just bad, and we are well past the age of both selling the game for a price and then spending upwards of 5+ times that amount just to get the characters, not to mention cosmetics. I have a few friends who are thinking about getting into Dead By Daylight, but it's hard to recommend it to them when the 20$ buy-in price (a bit less on sales) is just a tiny amount compared to the in game purchases. there could be a third option, which would make all teachable perks available for everyone. this would include licensed perks too. how this would be implemented I'm not sure, and i know we have the shrine, but I have two ideas for this; either A) make a page with every teachable perk available for purchase, either with bloodpoints (like 300-500k per) or iridescent shards (1-2k per) or B) make the shrine of secrets a daily rotation and lower the price a bit regardless, the current system we have is flawed for anyone getting into the game, both in terms of tutorials but also just letting people play the damn game. at least by being able to try a killer out before purchase, you don't have to invest like 7$ just to see if that killer is worth it for you personally. I'm sure there's a decently sized group of people who would love to play, random example, Twins, but who just don't know it yet because they don't want to spend the money just to find out. (this ended up being way longer than I inteded it for, tl;dr make non-licensed characters free for everyone or at least make getting all teachable perks available for everyone at all times without needing to purchase the character first)
@iiTzSunrise
@iiTzSunrise Месяц назад
Crazy how ALL OF THESE FEATURES ARE IN MOBILE. Everytime you encounter a new perk the game gives you a brief overview about it and looking at it gives you blood points. The game recommends loadouts based on playstyles and the game has leaderboards where you can see what the best players are running.
@kj117br5
@kj117br5 Месяц назад
Begginer experience: watched content creators for a while before getting the game itself, won most matches when I started playing because of the previous knowledge (and overall gaming experience), reached above begginer level MMR, imediately got stomped for several matches in a row by killers/survivors with multiple meta licensed perks
@venomshot2815
@venomshot2815 Месяц назад
I remember playing DBD mobile years ago I bought the nurse because i saw a video of it being op then I lost every game because I didn't know you can hit someone right after blinking
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
Imagine if that was the nerf Nurse got, you can only use blink as a means to traverse the map...
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
That’s just a skill issue tbh
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust Месяц назад
Wait, if you see her being op that means she had to have been attacking after blink no? How'd you miss th at?
@venomshot2815
@venomshot2815 Месяц назад
@@TheReZisTLust I watched some videos and saw that she did. Then I tried it and somehow couldn't idk tho
@hitbyatank
@hitbyatank Месяц назад
I introduced 3 people to dbd they said - gens are very boring - perks are confusing (they all equipped random crap) - the game itself gets boring fast - they complained about all the cool (licensed) characters they see ads for are all pay to play - they also didn’t understand non-licensed stuff behind paywalls when you have to buy the game - one of them said “since they wanna monetize like a mobile game they could at least let me watch ads to try the payed sh*t” 💀💀
@skeley6776
@skeley6776 Месяц назад
they are not wrong lol
@TheRen1403
@TheRen1403 Месяц назад
I wish they would have had an actual looping instruction. The mechanics of the structures and how to run them. There's also no mention of killer/survivor speed which is why new players just hold w!
@artful3448
@artful3448 Месяц назад
they dont because behavior has no idea how to play their own game. every tech and way of looping is essentially made by the people who play the game
@muysli.y1855
@muysli.y1855 Месяц назад
Bloodlust no mention
@ethancarter5717
@ethancarter5717 Месяц назад
@@artful3448 ngl ik pretty sure EVERY bhvr dev would get ran 4 mins minimum in a 1v1 and $5 they would never hold one checkspot
@AceWill8302
@AceWill8302 Месяц назад
I started playing in January of this year, around the time the game was promoting Chucky and Alan Wake iirc, after some friends got me into it. Since I was lucky enough to get it when it was free on Epic, I decided to try it. I've been playing and enjoying it for several months, and I thought I knew a good amount about it, but after watching this video, I learned several mechanics that I had no clue about, such as how the resolve meter doesn't appear in endgame. One thing that's pretty lame is the perk system. I'm the type of person who likes to try out many different builds, however, since I detest spending money on games after purchase, the game quickly showed me that I have very little option in variety until I unlock more characters. I'm currently at 241 hours according to Epic, and so far I've unlocked Kate, Vittorio, Felix, Jeff, and Rebecca (thanks to the generosity of a friend) for the survivors and only Legion and Clown for killers. Several of these characters I only chose to use my shards on for their perks, and even after all this time I still feel like my builds have very little variation: Gen Rush or Chase Help for survivors, and pretty much just Information with Sloppy for killers. I definitely feel as though that either many of the bad starting perks should get a rework to make them more useful or varied, or that the perks shouldn't be tied to characters.
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
Insane how little characters you have after investing 241 hours into this game. And I can't even imagine the lack of variety in terms of builds for casuals and new players. Also glad you learned something new!
@flopsnextdoor
@flopsnextdoor Месяц назад
I started playing on mobile around October and console in December and even though I’ve watched people play dead by daylight for years I still struggled to figure out a lot of mechanics, I have around 300 hours now and I’ve only unlocked a few characters (sad to admit I bought a few)for survivor and killer. I just started using flashlights and I had no idea you had to wait a bit to blind killers among so many other things🥲
@muysli.y1855
@muysli.y1855 Месяц назад
BHVR should make more dlc for free like they did with huntress and nurse and bill
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
@@flopsnextdoorThat’s normal for every player. For flashlights.
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
I mean you can use shards in the shop for random perks that are from characters you don’t have. That’s about it though 😂
@AnotherSaturdayInTheFall
@AnotherSaturdayInTheFall Месяц назад
Phenomenal video. I’ve been playing since 2016 but I would never ask any of my friends to get dbd the grind for new players is atrocious
@7pennies
@7pennies Месяц назад
While playing as the Dredge, I had a Bill walking around trying to use his flashlight to light his way during nightfall.
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Bro is playing dbd mobile
@gelo888
@gelo888 Месяц назад
@@evangingerson1271why every single comment you leave is cringe 😭 can’t expect much from a 12 year old with a Deadpool pfp ig
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
@@gelo888 chill it’s just messing around 😂
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
@@gelo888 A 12 year old with a profile of a character that they not old enough to watch there movie?
@marcelolopes735
@marcelolopes735 Месяц назад
​@@gelo888wonder the samething ngl He sounds insane He should have had the joker pfp to be fair.
@Pyrax-Tunneled-You
@Pyrax-Tunneled-You Месяц назад
A 50 minute rant from Mintskull is exactly what I wanted to eat my dinner to.
@spiritupgrades
@spiritupgrades Месяц назад
not to be rude but don't you have a family?
@AYAKXSHI
@AYAKXSHI Месяц назад
@@spiritupgrades i don’t but for me my family doesn’t eat together often
@spiritupgrades
@spiritupgrades Месяц назад
@AYAKXSHI if it's possible, try to have lunch or dinner with them at least. Being alone isn't a great feeling after a while.
@AYAKXSHI
@AYAKXSHI Месяц назад
@@spiritupgrades we do it’s just everyone in my family just prefers eating alone due how different we are but we atleast try to have conversations on topics or whatever is going on in the world atleast a few times a week
@kanyumski
@kanyumski Месяц назад
@@spiritupgrades Not everyone is the same dude, my family never eats together when we have dinner. I have a large family too 10+ people so it's really not an issue
@ryanlutes9833
@ryanlutes9833 Месяц назад
The existing tutorial is fine for quickly teaching basic controls, but it definitely doesn't prepare players for an average match. At the very least they should cover totems, chests, and items, because those will be in literally every match. But honestly, I think the best option for BHVR would just be to leverage community resources; link to Otz and other fog whisperers videos, or even have an in-game video player. Contract them to make new videos, too. I'm sure many would be happy to.
@muysli.y1855
@muysli.y1855 Месяц назад
Ingame video player is a great idea, like they did in texas with game manual
@ryanlutes9833
@ryanlutes9833 Месяц назад
@@muysli.y1855 DOTA and CS:GO have in-game web browsers and video players as well. It wouldn't be super difficult for BHVR to implement, it's probably very simple with Unreal Engine.
@lunaliciousgeek
@lunaliciousgeek Месяц назад
The HUD not being explaining at all is criminal. When I started, I didn't know what the [obsession indicator] was, didn't know I could see if teammates were in chase, didn't know how to know how many gens/hatchets were left, at ALL that I was in deep wounds so didn't know why I suddenly went down, how much time was left in hook stages, etc. Also it's way under-mentioned that killer and survivors' main interaction buttons are totally different (left click vs space bar).
@samaelsion
@samaelsion Месяц назад
You've already said it in the past, BeHavior is a company, and like any company it is only interested in profits. Why would they waste resources improving the tutorial when they can use it for another Fen Ming skin?
@SmoothMaul
@SmoothMaul Месяц назад
As a new player who pnly picked the game up abour a month or two ago I got super lucky with how my first few games went. Started the game with the intent of being a killer main, and the first few games I got some absolute angels playing as survivor. Think they figured I was a baby killer so they started showing me all the pallet and loop areas, even let me get 2 hooks before they escaped. That interaction got me addicted so fast, I even got some encouraging messages from people giving me advice on how to be a better killer. I can see how this game could be very overwhelming for new players, I mean shit I had no clue what I was doing, but after a day or two you start to learn that you only really need certain perks for certain killers and not every single perk in the game, thinking like that is what nakes ut feel overwhelming in the first place.
@Power4ever
@Power4ever Месяц назад
Mintskull, i love your videos, but as a Sable main, your videos have given me so many new ideas for combos 😂 I love that purple fit at the beginning
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
Sable has so much mix n match potential! Love her
@gray1013
@gray1013 Месяц назад
As someone who recently started playing myself, being a new player is terribly unfun. Primarily because of how overwhelming the system is (plus sweaty players). Trying to understand, perks, and killer abilities is absolutely mindnumbing for someone just getting in. And then when you inevitably look up perk lists on RU-vid/online for a good perk set, half if not all the perks you have to pay for. And those seldom come from the same character, meaning that you have to sink additional money into this game that you already paid for. Do I even need to talk about the grinding? There, done, rant over.
@thekiddshow
@thekiddshow Месяц назад
yes, exactly. you basically need someone who already plays to help you, and even then, you wont have a lot of fun because you'll likely hold the team back, or even throw the game.
@gray1013
@gray1013 Месяц назад
@@thekiddshow yes exactly! If it weren’t for my friends, there’s no way I’d be into the game. We started playing in custom lobbies, so there’s less pressure, but it was still rough starting out for sure; especially when I started doing online ques.
@TheSageCookieuwu
@TheSageCookieuwu Месяц назад
Hot take: They should add a brown flashlight that can't blind the killer with 80 charges just so people can suffer and light the hallways of dark maps.
@teillo.mp4
@teillo.mp4 Месяц назад
I remember when I started playing, I didn’t understand how perks and prestige system work. And the wrost part is, my console wasn’t in english but in my native language and THE TRANSLATION IS TRASH SO EVEN BY READING EVERYTHING, IT DIDNT MAKE SENSE.
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
I didn't even mention translations! They are indeed not very well translated for languages that are not English / Spanish, and some of my viewers will remember the "butt smeller" translation of Trapper
@caldw615
@caldw615 Месяц назад
​@@MintSkullI'm sorry the what translation??
@cynicalia
@cynicalia Месяц назад
Oledor de c*l*s o algo así no me acuerdo de tu vid :(
@droid9532
@droid9532 Месяц назад
When I started playing DBD( just before sadako came out). I learned basically everything from videos, I only played killer because survivor scared me at the time. I remember having a fun time when I was playing killer but I ended up deleting the game and not playing until the attack on titan Collab/dredge midchapter. I remember my biggest struggle was the perks, items and add-ons. It all just sounded like complete gibberish about what they did, changed or affected. I ended up just using perks because I felt like I had to. Even now after 1k hours i still pity all the new players because the climb is incredibly steep before getting a decent understanding of maps/variations, offerings, add-ons, powers, perks, items and status effects
@rafaelgalindo4794
@rafaelgalindo4794 Месяц назад
ohhhh I also started playing before Sadako. I remember going against Artists and having plenty of Jonahs every trial. I kept asking my brother why people loved those characters and he told me it was a recent released chapter.
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Forcing playing to look at the 100 characters perks as well. Recently I was confused why survivors would drop to the floor without bleeding out. Turns out it’s a Nicholas Cage perk.
@LunaMoonwing
@LunaMoonwing Месяц назад
Remember when the p2w topic was brought up and the major communities just called it stupid and bs cause new players arent at a disadvantage apperantly. This playerbase does not like the new player experience from what ive seen
@alexanderneve2323
@alexanderneve2323 Месяц назад
A game like Deep Rock Galactic handles all of this so much better. For anyone who doesn't know, Deep Rock Galactic or DRG is a 4 person co-op shooter where you play as these Dwarfs who work for a space mining company, where you travel to a planet to mine resources and shoot aliens. In that game, there are many different things you can upgrade for your dwarfs, such as the primary weapons, secondary, throwables, utility tools etc. But the difference here is that all the upgrades can ONLY be unlocked via playing the game. There is no paying your way out of it. You spend a good amount of money buying the game and then the rest is up to you to unlock. The only dlc there is is purely cosmetic, and it doesn't add anything else than you just looking cool. Plus there is also cosmetics you can earn via just playing the game. If DBD made it so that it was free, or a lot of old content was free, then maybe the grind would be a little less punishing.
@jayce36
@jayce36 Месяц назад
I just started playing the game this week and the power learning gap is so real 🙏 great video. Learning killers like Wesker as a survivor is so brutal. Youre usually given a tool tip at the start of the match... that tries to summarize the power in one sentence 😅❤ Dont get me started on add-ons. Ive Googled powers mid match before LMAO
@opalescenthare9537
@opalescenthare9537 Месяц назад
I gave up on understanding some killer powers. The worst one is that I still don't get how to solve Pinhead's box when a chain hunt is after you. I read somewhere to dodge 3 chains and then you get a short time to solve it, that you need to let the chains hit you and break them all together, that you need to do it behind cover, that someone has to assist by blocking the chains from hitting you, etc. I gave up on figuring it out and just hope for the best on the off chance that he shows up in a match🤞 I gave up understanding Skull merchant too. But at least that one is (hopefully) entirely personal from her 3gen era that I have not recovered from. Even after months, it's still too soon for me and I accept that.
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Didn’t know you could solve it when chain hunt. Thought it was over by then 😂
@welshshortie2345
@welshshortie2345 Месяц назад
I agree with most of your points but the hug tech and chucky flick were exploits and were borderline uncounterable they deserved removal after their respective ptbs
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
I won't debate Chucky flicks because I myself had very little experience against it (Plus, I think scamper is the worst issue with his kit!) but Hug Techs were not as broken in my opinion, since only the best of the best blights were able to do the crazy hug techs, and most Blights only knew the basic ones, which are, in my personal experience, easy to counter compared to Blight using speed addons to rush you normally!
@welshshortie2345
@welshshortie2345 Месяц назад
I play on console unfortunately and whenever I face a pc blight With a £20 skin on doing hug techs and 260° flicks just makes me wanna DC same with oni there's nothing fair about hug techs i don't think its an very impressive play to break the game to get an advantage
@serioustable8659
@serioustable8659 Месяц назад
I have no idea how there are new players still coming into the game. You have to be a walking encyclopedia to understand the game, you have to be a walking wallet to afford all the content, and a walking punching bag to endure the torture of losing for hours
@abluntuser940
@abluntuser940 Месяц назад
I'm a relatively newish player! I started playing DBD around November of 2023, almost December if I recall correctly. Fell in love with it and have been playing casually on/off since. I learned about the game from a friend who was actually a hardcore veteran, and wanted to get me into it. For more context, I still have not paid a single cent towards DBD other than when I bought the base game. I am a shards-only player, and have always had a consistent 0 auric cells since I started. I also wanna note that I am a 50/50 player. I will often play solo Q survivor, or play as a random killer. (I don't have a particular killers I like more, I like trying different killing styles a lot). I don't pick one side since I like playing as both about evenly. When I first started playing DBD, I was pretty terrified of everything. I went to the in-game tutorials and learned the basic goals of gameplay. And that was basically it. I actually had no idea what perks were for the longest time, or how to equip items. Those were things that took me days to learn from just the menu UI alone. It took me even longer to learn about kinks in killer powers or tactics to looping a killer which I'm still not very good at anyway. I think what made me suck so much in the beginning was just how even in my first few matches as the noob dwight/meg, I was overwhelmed with everything. I didn't know what the UI of my teammates indicated, and I was going against advanced killers that brought hex perks. (It took me about a month or 2 to learn what hex totems were and how they work). For instance I still remember my first game against a Myers. When he reached tier 3, I thought the exposed icon meant I was having my location given to Michael at all times. And it wasn't too long after that I encountered my first Tombstone combo Myers. You should've seen my face when I thought the Myers was just being friendly, and then he started instant-mori'ing my unharmed teammates, and I immediately thought he was hacking lol. That's when I finally learned how significant addons can really be for killers. It's like a whole different game depending on the addons man. I wish I had learned more about those kind of things so I could not be sitting there feeding a Myers who I thought was just being friendly. The tutorials really do need to get good and explain things better in terms of side effects or states. Things like deep wound, exposed, hindered, blindness, etc. All of that should be explained in better detail in the tutorials instead of just learning the mostly hard way by playing matches against sweat lords. Another thing is just how gate-kept I feel from being a better player. Even after these 6 months since I started playing DBD, I still mostly only have the basic characters. I have only unlocked 2 additional shard-purchased killers, and a handful of survivors for their teachable perks. I love watching DBD content and I would love to try my hand at different (GOOD) perks like decisive strike/flash grenade as survivor, or killer perks like save the best for last and friends to the end. But those kind of things are not viable for me to get because I refuse to spend my real money for auric cells. I feel like as of this post I have reached an intermediate understanding of DBD, but still don't know a lot about tactics used by killers/survivors, and I still don't fully understand every single killer's powers, even though I've played against all of them at least a few times. (Forget trying to learn the skull merchant's power since I only ever see them once every blue moon). The game is very very grindy and I only have so much time in my busy adult life to spend grinding for better perks. It very much feels like I have to pay to win, which I simply refuse to do.
@ahrimusifosil9207
@ahrimusifosil9207 Месяц назад
the ugly truth for new players are the insane amount of perks und killers. This is too much and frustrating. I play since 2016 and many of my friends, i tried to convince quiting after few hours.
@skeletonwitch.
@skeletonwitch. Месяц назад
i'm only halfway through, but i love the passion you have for this topic! i have friends who have the game, but are hesitant to start playing because of how overwhelmingly brutal the learning curve is. it's funny because only a couple of days ago have i read the game manual for the first time just out of curiosity and at first glance thought it was pretty thorough, but lacked visuals severely.
@Sachiko_Zeingor
@Sachiko_Zeingor Месяц назад
I started this game pretty much 1 year ago when Tools of Torment was released. I started it for 2 reasons: 1. I am a big fan of good horror movies, so seeing Freddy, Myers, Bubba etc. in a game excited me 2. My brother plays it regularly and asked me several times to give it a try, which I eventually did I honestly think the beginning of DBD is the most fun as a survivor you'll have with this game. You honestly feel like in a horro movie. It's thrilling, it's amazing. I didn't care whether or not perk X or item Y where good. I only knew Feng Min is cute as hell and I liked her perks. I still think she is the best starter survivor and use 2 of her her perks in every match I play as a surv. It could not have bothered me less back then. I believe this thinking only starts when you truly understood the game, the killers and the perks to a basic degree. And then it is up for you to decide. DO you invest the time and money to get the juicy stuff or do you make due with what you have? Since this game helped me and my brother a lot in repairing our damaged relationship I gladly chose to spent time and money and still often have fun with him playing the game
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard 18 дней назад
Feng is a bad survivor to choose as a beginner because she is so darn LOUD when she is injured that a friggin' blind person could find her!
@huntedperson3147
@huntedperson3147 Месяц назад
I tried picking up the game a month ago, I quit 2 weeks afterwards; - 50% because every 3rd or 4th survivor game was a killer sitting in the middle of the map afk farming bloodpoints, the match where I brought in double pink addons for the fun of it and got another gen slowdown Doctor was the breaking point for my uninstall - 20% because the difficult part of the game (the looping) was actively detrimental to success to seek to practice and required several minutes to get into a chase just for me to make a mistake and get instantly downed most of the time, then have to wait 5-10 minutes to get into a new chase in a new game. I will say the times I didn't immediately screw everything up was really enjoyable, decently stretched out chases - 20% because it wasn't fun to play, I still remember the names of 2 knight players, the only knight players I've fought, who only played the game by downing one person and camping that slug for 4 minutes, on top of regular tunneling and the anti-camping unhook feature being next to worthless - 10% because I had to grind so much to get teachable perks for the build I wanted Playing killer was really fun though, but then again, I never reached a point in which I was playing against survivors that my fps experienced aim on Huntress didn't carry me past
@dartagnan1954
@dartagnan1954 Месяц назад
Average players are what keeps any game alive
@ConnerHoughton
@ConnerHoughton Месяц назад
I played a lot of dbd back in 2017 and recently got back into the game this year. However, I decided to just leave the game alone cause the game is like a chore to me. Playing survivor and killer doesn’t feel as fun as it did back then, cause there’s so much competition it ruins it for me. Especially since they introduce skill based matchmaking, with the new prestige system, there’s so much emphasis on grinding and competition. Maybe that’s just me, I figure a lot of people who play dbd nowadays likes the grind, and likes being challenged. But for a casual player like me, dead by daylight is completely out of my league now.
@VexedVergil
@VexedVergil Месяц назад
I feel this, my wife recently upgraded from Nintendo switch to PC. All of her characters and progress was non-transferable and she had to start all over again, buy everything again. It's ridiculous.
@Neurodivirgin
@Neurodivirgin Месяц назад
i remember the old tutorial having a good amoount of this missing info, telling the player about self healing, the basement, and chests. and for the killer tutorial you actually had to wait out the hook states (granted you didnt hook them all immediately) and the meg bot did kinda loop you to a degree. somehow like the old tutorial almost did better, or at least covered more topics. granted the game had a lot fewer mechanics at the time.
@ladybuggamer4479
@ladybuggamer4479 Месяц назад
I’ve been thinking about getting DbD for a while now and a lot of stuff you talked about I didn’t know. I kept asking “What is that?! What would that do?” So your rant is very fair. Before I didn’t even know what a killer instinct was even though I have watched a good chunk of dbd videos. I wish they made the tutorials better.
@StraferXD
@StraferXD Месяц назад
one thing that other games do with tutorials is have a simple tutorial for the very basics of the game, like controls and objectives, and then advanced or extra things in a extra optional tutorial, which would be a good help. Things like status effects, perks, items, totems/hex perks, etc woule be good to show. Rocket racing in fortnite does this and it was actually really helpful for me to learn the game before jumping in
@dantet_
@dantet_ Месяц назад
Good points! It's very hard to recommend DBD to new people, and it can be hard for even some casual players to keep up, when there are so many perks, killers, etc. to remember. And with the way tutorials and some explanations are, learning the game basically boils down to "fuck around and find out". Some people don't want to or have time to do that for hundreds of hours just to be decent at a game. Speaking of tutorials and learning about how different killers work, one thing I dislike about the game is the fact that there's no way to try out killers you don't own without purchasing them first or playing in the PTB that's up for a limited time. Just reading or watching how a killer works is one thing and experiencing them another. Besides updating the tutorial/manual to be more in depth with visual aids, I think it would be pretty cool to have a little trial game available for each killer where you get to try out killers and their powers, that'd be nice for both old and new players alike. They could have a "Try out!" button in the shop next to the characters or something. And if you could purchase perks separately, you wouldn't have to buy a killer you don't like or care about just to have their perks unlocked.
@ammazer1229
@ammazer1229 Месяц назад
Truly the worst for both ends
@Yervy
@Yervy 12 дней назад
Imagine trying to learn all of the perks, killer powers, items, and addons at this point as a brand new player. even just thinking about it makes me exhausted, it'd be easier to learn a new language
@edouardgaming9813
@edouardgaming9813 Месяц назад
When i filled the sastifation survey for dbd in the last page in the bottom that said any thing you would like want in dbd i said "i would like you increase the iri shard gain on level to 500 at any level" to make the grind faster and to unlock stuff faster
@GOOSE_LIVER
@GOOSE_LIVER Месяц назад
I recently have gotten one of my friends into dbd, I’ve been playing since release, he’s usually goated at every game so I figured hed like this, but it’s incredibly hard with how much you have to look out for, back when I started playing there wasn’t much to look out for then everything was getting added one by one which made it easier to understand but as a new player it’s so hard, like the obsession, perks, hex’s, all killer powers, flashlight and pallet saves, looping, and a bunch of other stuff, but it’s working out pretty easily, but it’s so hard to win games cos of how many sweats killers are sometimes
@Doncroft1
@Doncroft1 Месяц назад
You're both informative and persuasive, Mintskull. Well done.
@wanidosdosdosdosdosdos3242
@wanidosdosdosdosdosdos3242 Месяц назад
33:27 LMAO Otzdarva's seminares got me 😂😂😂😂e
@AYAKXSHI
@AYAKXSHI Месяц назад
I feel like dbd should take notes from fighting games and drop a extended gameplay video for new killers and survivors that explains each new power up and how effective they are in certain situations this could also be a way for them to explain why they added these abilities in the first place and there philosophy behind these moves
@vappa101
@vappa101 Месяц назад
When i started i thought keys were for unlocking chest faster😅
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
I had no idea what keys were for, because they talked about a "black lock" which I had no idea what that was!
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Same. You have to then add items to the items to do different stuff 😂
@Muckymuh
@Muckymuh Месяц назад
What a good video! Sums up my thoughts perfectly. I'll definitely write a (possibly) longer comment tomorrow with how I see DbD as a beginner who started with the Silent Hill DLC - and why I ultimately quit after 150 hours.
@xCHOPP3R
@xCHOPP3R 12 дней назад
i started during the Silent Hill DLC, and it was difficult. I had to watch YT vids to get better.
@basicnerd1347
@basicnerd1347 29 дней назад
Really glad to see a video on this topic. It's so underdiscussed and I think the reason is simply that most people that play the game a lot aren't new so don't empathize or think about the new player experience a lot. I have several friends that have given up or not even tried this game before because of its horrid pricing model not to mention how much there is to learn, and it makes me sad because I really love this game and want to play it with my friends.
@annareifer2249
@annareifer2249 Месяц назад
Thank you, I think the video is very important. I am a veteran player who owns everything in the game, but during my DBD time I have often explained the game to new players. Sometimes also as a killer my survivor. I can still remember a Kate with 200+ hours who I explained in the end chat why I found her as Legion 2 times in the locker - she didn't know, how the killer instinct workt. I'm still hoping Killer will get a basekit Corrupt Intervention at some point, with maybe 2 blocked Gens and a minute duration. That would certainly help new Killer players. Otherwise it would be a boost for new players in terms of blood points. Like your first 50 rounds as a Survivor and your first 50 rounds as a Killer you automatically get 100% more blood points for each round. Maybe even 200% As for Shattered Hope, I wonder why the perk exists and they didn't just do it with the boons like they did with the hex totems. Once off, the survivor who built the boon can't reactivate it. I would think that's fair, especially since the survivors can choose where the totem is and they have to spend time setting it up. The killer, on the other hand, is dependent on luck with his hexes, but doesn't have to invest any time in activating the perks.
@babybeluga3
@babybeluga3 Месяц назад
i recently came back to the game after a few years of not playing and i was so lost lmao
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
Do you know that Sadako got reworked 3 times, Hillbilly and Trickster got buffs, and Twins is getting a rework soon? A lot of info to take in!
@albertosusy1649
@albertosusy1649 Месяц назад
I tried getting my Best friend into the game, but its impossible. You have to be REALLY into the genre of game to enjoy it enough that you push through the sludge and try to enjoy it.
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
Sadly, that's how I see it too
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Yeh I’m glad I got my friends into it like 4 years ago.
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Even that long ago took time for them to understand.
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard 18 дней назад
I picked up this game about a year and a half ago and now have about 1500 hours. Its possible to get into at this late of stage.
@DragonMaiden77
@DragonMaiden77 Месяц назад
If I’m playing a game and notice the survivors are babies, I let them all go. I’ve always done this. There is no point in being a sweat in this game all the time if you’re just going to chase away more players, and that’s what people don’t get. You’re just ruining the game for others, and at the end of the day, games are supposed to be fun for everyone. People in this game have an attitude of ‘only I matter, if you didn’t have fun who cares’. You need killers AND survivors to play the game. If you chase one away the game dies. The players are toxic. The Devs used to be but they gotten A LOT better in recent times. Now it’s up to the rest of us to pick up the slack and clean up the fandom if we wanna make it a better environment.
@diemandtheanimatronicwolf
@diemandtheanimatronicwolf Месяц назад
I watched DbD on and off thoughought the years but officially got it in 2021. I took a year break after all my friends left it, then returned August 2023 where I have been playing since. I had to do a lot of homework to catch up, but did so pretty easily and somehow got better at looping despite not practicing. When I introduce people who haven't played the game in a hot minute or they're fresh babies, we always host a Custom. We go over basic looping, the Killer they're against and their counters, and most importantly, the numerous status effects that the game's tutorial doesn't go over. There are so many niche things with every Killer that their tips don't warn you about. When I play Killer, I go easy on newbies. I won't baby them since they'll have to learn somehow but oftentimes I let them escape. I even taught a baby Meg about an invisible Vault in Swamp (the log) since she boxed herself in so after downing her I vaulted a few times to showcase it to her, than later in the match when she was in the area again she used it! I'd say if you're new to DbD but have some friends to play with it's doable, but I can't imagine doing it alone nowadays.
@Bad_Place_Alone
@Bad_Place_Alone Месяц назад
This was a great video. I’m at 2.5k hours and there were still a few things I didn’t know within. I can’t imagine just how daunting it must be for newcomers. I hope new buyers know, it’s a commitment!
@codywasson5894
@codywasson5894 Месяц назад
Oh and another few things is that bugged me is that if you have interactions set to toggle in the tutorial you still have to hold the button down. Also the fact that items weren’t explained probably so I was confused on why I couldn’t use the items I brought just during a match I found the item use on the UI. So yeah the devs need to explain a lot more.
@basementhermit1492
@basementhermit1492 Месяц назад
Something that would really be nice is if iri shard gain was just a consistent number instead of resetting back to 65 shards a level after 100 levels so the grind could at least be slightly be less tedious
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe Месяц назад
I really don't understand why the other versions of the game include more Survivors/Killers for free. In many cases, they include CRUCIAL Survivors/Killers, which perks that are near mandatory for newer players cause it helps them a ton.
@ukalistaxd9464
@ukalistaxd9464 Месяц назад
The exposed one is me🖐️! When I first used Noed i legit though that it would reveal all survivour aura when the last gen pops, was disappointed and ended up not using the perk to this day. I just wanted aura reveal perks huhuhu😭
@metlhe4d329
@metlhe4d329 Месяц назад
Yes, when I was new to the game, and I used NOED for the first time, i thought that exposed meant that I’d see everyone’s aura, and was confused when that didn’t happen. And I hadn’t learned of the new gen regression mechanics, as I’d taken a few months break from DBD, so THAT took some getting used to… I’ve got several hundred hours into the game now, if not at least a thousand, but I’ve spent a solid 98% of that time as a killer main.
@sammco6704
@sammco6704 Месяц назад
Something I learned in this video as someone who got into the game around a year and a half ago and has played for probably around 500 hours since then. I had no idea that grades didn't factor into your MMR at all. And most people I talk to tall about them as ranks and not as badges. Like, it doesn't say that anywhere.
@Shadowmonkey
@Shadowmonkey Месяц назад
Glad i wasnt the only one who thought exposure was like an aura effect when i started, lmao. Also, for some reason, I thought Insidious would make me invisible. So you can just imagine this huge ass Nemesis standing on the edge of fuckin Sheltered Woods waiting for a survivor to pass, lmao
@alex_a349
@alex_a349 Месяц назад
Wow! MintSkull raging isn't something you hear every day.
@sonvolt5150
@sonvolt5150 Месяц назад
Great video When I first started playing I knew there was so much more to it It’s a complex game Had to watch YT vids to get the very basics
@burymeintulips
@burymeintulips 21 день назад
also learning about deep wound when i started playing would've been great. i remember going against a legion and just bleeding out because i didn't understand it, and i think this was before you could self-mend
@HockeyM.M.
@HockeyM.M. Месяц назад
i've been saying all of this for YEAAARSSS, thank you Mint, this is a gem of a video
@saikyue4462
@saikyue4462 Месяц назад
12:22 this is so true, I dont even have all my characters prestiged yet, but I play in the highest mmr with consisten p100 players and am able to keep up with the majority of them because I watch a lot of dbd content. That literally shows that just knowledge about the game alone can increase your skill level tremendously
@PixeledMonkey
@PixeledMonkey Месяц назад
I think most of the details in this video are 100% correct but the biggest issue is a word that is used over and over in this video and in the community at large - "COMPETITIVE" This one single word and mindset is the biggest issue in the community and the main cause for 90% of the toxicity in the community. I started playing DBD back when we had the old rank system - before SBMM and back then the "competitive" games were around rank 5 and above which is where all the skill matches were and the tech's etc which was fine because in the far lower ranks you had players who were learning and so it balanced out a lot. Back then i was playing David - a character i still main today and i was using no-mither and resilience as it allowed me to do gens fast and killers would sometimes slug and so i could easily get myself back up if i couldnt avoid the killer most of the match. This brings me to my point - since SBMM the main focus by content creators and a lot of the community has moved to this main push for competitive and so killers are told to tunnel and 3 gen because it helped get wins - survivors are told to use the "meta" because its the best way to win - its just non stop "best way to win" and that removed ALL the fun that used to happen in this game at lower ranks. This is my personal opinion as to why most people quit the game early on - yes the grind is long but so is WoW and other games that people also sink thousands of hours into - the grind isnt bad when the game is FUN and DBD is no longer fun but a sweat shop. Until the community stop being so focused on competitive or until a competitive mode is added as a seperate thing DBD will continue to be the most miserable and unfun game. I am lucky that i have a SWF that i play with and we spend most of our matches messing around and doing memes because we dont need to do anything, ive already 100% completed all achievements and tombs so until something new comes i dont have to care and even when a new DLC or tomb comes i can easily smash through it in a week or so after doing my full time job without having to try or play "competitive" I get some people want that which is why i think it should have its own dedicated mode like most other games do but until that happens new players will get bullied out of the game because like big long term games - Eve Online as an example - it does take time to tearn and be good at for some and they will be treated poorly (especially in solo queue) if they are doing well enough when matched with competitive players Ive seen the way players talk to each other in the end game chat and its terrible, as a killer ive had to give encouragement to new players after the match because the rest of their team have just been so toxic to them for being new - its this elitist view by a lot of the community that causes this.
@PixelTrainer.
@PixelTrainer. 12 дней назад
(Anecdote from veteran player starting over) I switched from Switch to PC, and it was incredibly eye-opening. In my old account I had every perk and character unlocked, so I always wondered if the monetization and grind was that bad. And experimenting it first-hand; It is. The only saving grace making me not wanna quit the game is that I have previous knowledge of the game from experimenting. So I just grab my survivor and killer mains, make a semi-decent build with both, and play a pretty bare-bones game. Still fun, but nothing like the crazy meme builds and fun variety I had in my old account. Which is really sad because this game is a ton of fun, but that true fun it's buried so deep beneath the surface, it's unlikely a new player will ever reach it.
@ICON-11-
@ICON-11- Месяц назад
You got me good with the "Scam of Secrets" 😂💯
@chandy.
@chandy. Месяц назад
i think about this a lot, i've been playing since 2018 and i still learn new stuff on a daily/weekly basis
@NoobyNot
@NoobyNot Месяц назад
I had 2 friends who had never played dbd before pick up the game this year when The Unknown released. They haven't really cared about any grind and have been genuinely enjoying their time playing, and they improve with each and every match. One is on PC and the other is on Xbox so I get to see how both of them have been improving and they've gone down different paths, but it still leads to them having fun playing
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Rare occurrence
@floresdeserti
@floresdeserti Месяц назад
I remember playing the tutorial and still being super confused when playing. And that was back around Sadako's release. I can't imagine trying to learn now. It took me so long to catch on, learn the perks, etc.
@Luna.Tenebra
@Luna.Tenebra Месяц назад
It does mean something when I recommend For Honor more then Dead by Daylight (I never even recommended DbD to someone ever)
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
And For Honor is another very beginner-non friendly game, which makes DbD even worse 😅
@Luna.Tenebra
@Luna.Tenebra Месяц назад
@@MintSkull exactly! But at least in For Honor you are kinda good to go when you just get the Basics right meanwhile in DbD there are like 500 different things that can change each Match (Perks, Killer, Add Ons, Maps, Map RNG etc.)
@evangingerson1271
@evangingerson1271 Месяц назад
Wouldn’t dare
@TheEdwardvansloan
@TheEdwardvansloan Месяц назад
I am lucky enough to have had a person introduce me to the game and hold my hand throughout the beginning
@juanmdavilaponce4391
@juanmdavilaponce4391 Месяц назад
Hi MintSkull! Loving the content keep it up!! I wanna share this, recently one of my friends got the game and we've been playing with another one of my pals, he asked me, bro, so how do I unlock all of this, there's tons of characters and cool cosmetics? I told him, I suggest you just buy whatever is meta right now, but don't get caught up with it, he told me dude, that is pretty crazy, he bought a few things, cosmetics and all, and he already got some perks I don't even have, I've been f2p for the most part, but God damn it's taken me almost 1000 hours to get where I am, he just used his credit card 💀 I did tell him not to follow the tutorial tho, he's getting the hang of it, but man this type of things are kinda funny and sad (._.) I had him watch Otz and a few more for learning the game, poor guy was so confused haha
@orion5748
@orion5748 Месяц назад
thankfully someone finally made a new video about it hope this blows up and the devs see it GREAT VID!!!
@echoingback
@echoingback Месяц назад
i recently got back into dbd and have introduced a lot of my friends to the game in the past month and oh my god. you are right. i feel like a crazy person trying to explain the bloodweb, and prestiging and perks. i stop playing whenever spirit came out and have NO idea how to explain going against a good majority of the new killers either, cause the game doesnt explain it! it is a little crazy!
@Lymsleya
@Lymsleya Месяц назад
very well made congrats!!!
@samaelsion
@samaelsion Месяц назад
45:35 the Unknow seeing how much will need to grind in the entity realms to have good perks.
@Izuki_Kaede
@Izuki_Kaede Месяц назад
Adding a tutorial on how to use/counter/how it works when playing or facing a killer is good
@FrostyTheNightmare
@FrostyTheNightmare Месяц назад
I’m so thankful I got into DBD when Pinhead got released. I couldn’t think of how much money and grinding I would have to put into the game to get to where I am now. A simple fix is to make the base game Free to play, make new perks and shards easier to obtain and lower the prices of the original DLC chapters.
@Crispy_DAWG
@Crispy_DAWG Месяц назад
To this day I still don’t understand the skull merchant’s power, how to counter it, and why I end up broken/injured but the drone sometimes
@thralfazuz8390
@thralfazuz8390 Месяц назад
also that some killer powers can prevent you from leaving through the exit gates, Twins, Cenobyte, Wesker, Knight addon, Freddy addon, deathslinger.I got one newbie killed when playing wesker I later explained to him that game mechanic, let's just say he learned the hard way.
@user-bt1zb8qm8j
@user-bt1zb8qm8j Месяц назад
damn, i remembered how i used to think thats exhaustion cause hindrence. It was times, when crouching would speed up exhaustion recovery. I hopped on the game and didnt understand anything and just died a lot of times, then played killer, got all my hooks broken (or somebody from surviviour side had perk to disable auras of them, it was long ago, io dont remember) and quitted for about 4-6 years. Remembered about the game recently, gor decent, and now play very rarely due to it being boring af. This game is something else, i cant even explain it...
@MintSkull
@MintSkull Месяц назад
I forgot about the crouching to recover exhaustion thing!
@user-bt1zb8qm8j
@user-bt1zb8qm8j Месяц назад
@@MintSkull the funniest thing that is, I thought game more balanced than it was. I thought perks gives something in exchange to something, not a straight buffs. I know, the problem is me and, partially, poor translation to my language of the game (and it's still bad tho), but perks description was not very clear to me back then, and this whole thing (walking slower after burst of speed) looked pretty logical to me, ngl.
@Redflawlessmoon
@Redflawlessmoon Месяц назад
They also fail to mention that the first time you see spikes on the gen is the Warning that soon that gen will be blocked and you get a few more kicks before the gen is officially blocked from kicking.
@Redflawlessmoon
@Redflawlessmoon Месяц назад
Also if for some reason you are picking up a xeno turret while the Xeno comes through the portal that station will explode and no one will be able to use it for a short time (not to mention that the turret you picked up will be destroyed) This caught me off guard the first time it happened.
@dryad_girl
@dryad_girl 26 дней назад
Appreciate this! I just started playing yesterday. Yep. Yesterday. It’s. A Lot!
@DropkickDive89
@DropkickDive89 Месяц назад
The anti Hook mechanic not working in endgame , had a team of survs come into my chat and ask me why it did not work, after i explained it to them they told me that it would be nice if that is mentioned somewhere.... did not know that its not even in the "Text-Tutorial"
@bunkerengel6725
@bunkerengel6725 Месяц назад
I play since the 5th birthday of dbd, started during the event and have 6/6,5k hours on console - i knew a lot before i started bc i watched videos and streams since the game released and i still had trouble in the beginning. I started solo but soon searched for a group that would help me out and plays regularly. Way better to have one than learning everything alone.. Its a lot to learn, even more now and you really need to keep up with every change they make. Without the time and motivation i had and content creators who share knowledge i would have struggled way more. One of my mates can not play regularly and its hard to keep her updated, like teaching a new player every 3 months or so. Idk if i would start today, usually if someone asks if i could help i do but mention that it will cost a shitload of time and a very high frustration tolerance to learn how to play the game. The tutorial really should be updated and a ingame perk wiki would be nice. Sometimes waiting til a match is over just to look at the perks and addons of the opponent is annoying, i bet most players don't do it despite its a extremely good way to learn. For example, i cant count how many times i was called a cheater just because the survivor wasn't aware of the killer instinct addon of spirit or that lightborn shows the aura of the survivor that tries to blind you - flashbang and blastmine included. If you don't know about these things or look at everything after a match and read its rlly hard to understand some situations. A ingame manual should contain short clips to show things like that and notes about addons like cherry blossom or hilbillys chain... Watching Otz and others is kind of mandatory to really learn the game and not everyone had time, motivation or even understands english (pretty common here in Germany 🙈). Another point - some descriptions are wrong translated. Sables perk wicked f.e., in the german game has the description of the pre ptb update or tome challenges are translated so poorly that you can't fulfill some tasks until you look it up in english or ask someone. Last edit- I briefly remember the moment i needed to explain killer instinct to a mate with 1k h bc he never understood how legion could find him and never played killer. Also, he didn't even know about the shrine of secrets 🙈😅 The game needs more accesability for beginners.
@windego999
@windego999 Месяц назад
I started last year around October and have consistently played since. I have 1000+ hours on it. I still don't understand a lot of the game and it took me that 1000+ hours to even begin to get half decent at looping, enough to not just drop in the first 5 seconds. You almost have to play every killer yourself to fully understand their kits enough to not die to them instantly. And then the amount of money you have to spend to get any of the good perks? I still don't even own the entire cast on either side. I like the game but it is a massive investment to get into.
@kizzarp
@kizzarp Месяц назад
Otz is the sole reason i learned how to play, if he didnt exist i couldn't have began playing
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