crazy to think the suns and hornets did the same exact thing, hornets won 48 games in 2015 and haven't made the playofs since...did what the suns did and made moves they didn't need to make and avoided upgrading must needed positions
When you pay too much for cable, you feel down. When you feel down, you don't listen to your staff. When you don't listen to your staff, you acquire players you don't need. When you acquire players you don't need, you form discontentment. When you form discontentment, you're forced to trade your best assets. When you trade your best assets, you become the worst team in the NBA. Dont become the worst team in the NBA. Get rid of cable and upgrade to Direct TV. Call 1-800-DIRECTV
Its worse because Cleveland offered Kyrie Irving to the Suns for Eric Bledsoe and Josh Jackson. They said no, because they genuinely thought Josh Jackson was the next Kawhi Leonard. This is where it gets worse, Eric Bledsoe already wanted out, and Cleveland gift wrapped them Kyrie, they ended up getting Greg Monroe, who was bought out within two months. And now this offseason, they traded Josh Jackson for Jevon Carter. The difference was Kyrie vs. 2 months of Greg Monroe and Jevon Carter. Crazy
By the time he was traded it was gg anyway shoulda traded way longer ago nd held dragic tbh, they would have been more moderately decent gortat used to be a allstar potential production player never forget. Since 2012 when nash sold his soul this has been waited on. Bball god has graced us finally after regrounding our hopes and pride in our team but we are gonna be gnarly 2024 champs @me
@@Loganbub man I can't even begin to describe how awesome it is to see as a born and raised suns fan man.😭 Man I wish the pistons nothing but good things man they got some young guns that look really promising
That blew my mind, especially because he had no experience with game planning around a big man. Ayton was hardly utilized by his offense, most of his points would come from put backs.
At one point they had Nash, Stoudamire, Marion and Joe fucking Johnson. You need to go back all the way to 2005 when Robert Sarver bought the team, to fully understand why they are such a bad team now.
1. Trading away Joe Johnson doomed their title chances with Nash/Stoudemire/Marion core. 2. Mike D’Antoni was not a great coach, he was a good coach who had glaring holes, mainly, inability to make in game adjustments or motivate his players in high pressure situations, ie playoffs. 3. All in all, horrible front office management and ownership.
Mike D'Antoni is the Andy Reid of the NBA. Revolutionary offensive mind who doesn't give a crap about defense and can't comprehend why it's necessary for winning something more than just in the regular season.
D'antoni's teams are always fun to watch, but they don't have the defense, the big men or the half court offense to win a championship. He's too caught up on small ball to be able to truly lock horns with teams like the Spurs or the Warriors.
Suns fan since 88-89 season. So you can imagine I've seen a lot for the Suns. Pre Barkley era, Barkley era, 7 seconds or less era, up til now. And man oh man, it's hard to watch the front office destroy a proud team with admittedly no Championships, but a long history of playing winning basketball. We got an absolute gem in Booker, but even he has to have his limits, and I fear we'll lose him sooner rather than later. :-(
Ryan Cross hey even tho that was a bad defensive play keep in mind that J Rich hit that miraculous game tying 3 with 3 seconds left. He lead them through those final seconds so can’t blame him too much for the defensive breakdown. Especially since Ron Artest was missing shots all night that game. All focus was on Kobe as it should’ve been.
Suns: Okay, we'll be trading one of our best players on the team. What are we getting in return? Heat & Pacers: .....cash? Suns: *SOUNDS GOOD, WE ACCEPT*
I wonder how many people in the organizations lost their minds despite having a 48-34 record back in 2013-2014 and still never made the playoffs... The Western Conference is one tough S.O.B.
@@nutssack With 4+ yrs of team control the players have absolutely no leverage. The team can keep them and try to change their mind and compete for at least another 3 yrs and then trade them for other assets if it's still not working out. It's unheard of for a player to request a trade with 4+ yrs of contract left, it just doesn't happen
Only thing is, a lot of those botched picks were considered alright at the time. Jackson over Fox for instance was almost unanimous due to concerns over Fox's shooting and vision.
As a Phoenix native..... it has been a painful decade. And there is no light at the end of the tunnel yet because they are such a bad destination for players now that signing talent in free agency is a pipe dream and whatever talent they acquire by force (trade + draft) is desperately trying to leave. Plus, they are terrible at both trading and drafting so they only get talent by pure luck (like Booker) and don't know how to build a team with compatibility. It is going to take a miracle to get back to the playoffs, let alone chip contention.
No light at the end of the tunnel?? Booker in his prime, Ayton in his second year being fed by a pass first Ricky Rubio (a real PG) and Saric who is a young talented scrappy shooting PF.(who is also a proven winner)... with many other young core players like Cam and Bridges.... and best of all... McD is gone, James Jones is smart and a quality guy that is turning this around
How the Phoenix Suns went from title contenders to terrible. Lost Stoudemire to the Knicks, lost Nash to the “god squad” Lakers, and Marion left. Then they started tanking and got a star in Booker but couldn’t get any free agents to team with him.
Good job! I always ask myself when looking at some really bad and obviously bad front office moves: what were they thinking? Is there a narrative out there (even a false one) that could explain why they thought that doing this would be a good idea? In this case I got nothing.
I honestly thought everything is going through pieces for the Suns back in 2013-14 but the bad decisions they made completely still haunt them up to this day. I'm not a fan of the team but this is not the Suns I know growing up.
I feel so bad for the coaches they never got more than a year or two and fired for being competent for letting devin booker play or being fired to be a scapegoat
One word ... Sarver. Sarver ruin the franchise. Sarver is running a business with a business plan not a plan of actually putting a team to compete on court. As long time Phx Suns fans, I'm sad and see nothing will change until Sarver is gone.
I think the Suns problems began in the 2007 draft lottery. If they had gotten the second instead of the third pick then Phoenix, not Atlanta, has the chance to draft Kevin Durant, Al Horford or Joakim Noah. Any of those guys could have been excellent compliments, even as rookies, to those Suns teams that already had some great pieces. Imagine a young Kevin Durant playing with Steve Nash? That would have been insane.
as a suns fan, I simply now supported them from the bushes cuz nothing will heal the wound of trading TJ Warren for CASH or them passing on Luka when everyone knew that non playing making/shooting Centers were losing their value
Jack Abah but tbh the media was pushing ayton to be the first pick. I totally agree with you. Ayton is not bad, but Luka would definitely be a better player overall in the Suns team.
I'd say not re-signing Joe Johnson .. they had no closure or player to close out those close games in the clutch during Mike D'Antoni's tenure as the suns coach, Stat, Nash nor Marion didn't fit that role, with the exception of Johnson who was an iso player but capable of fulfilling that role
Before they traded for Shaq in 2008, they were number 1 in the West, then they slid down to 4 or 5 and gave way to the Lakers to take over as the number 1 team that year.
I think they thought they could flip the least necessary one for assets since they were all on good contracts. At least that's what makes the most sense to me
It's funny cause the other video is about how bucks are the BEST team in the NBA. Suns just needed a little bit of time and TLC. The true fans knew once we got Ayton we would be a player in the west again and the fact that he is GOOD and then CP3 saw the talent and gave us the point guard we've been needing for almost 5 years it was bound to happen. I remember going to a game in 2018 vs the spurs they were down 50 at the half and everyone left after Alice Cooper did the halftime show. Now we are going to win the chip 3 years later. I do miss the $6 nosebleed seats and moving to the lower level at the half. Let's go Suns!
16:33 that sounds like Suns management. We were just blessed to watch Nash and Stadomire play together.(17:21 yah board of directors is outta dope or some shit)
As I am watching this, the 3rd seed Suns are about to enter the 4th quarter game 6 up 3-2 against the Lakers in the first round of the Playoffs, looks like they managed to fix themselves up.
yo the suns situation is just god awful like literally every time we think their gonna finally bounce out of their stupid and annoying rebuild they some how get even worse like i really feel bad for everyone on the suns roster and seeing as they have a top 10 draft pick EVERY YEAR if i was an nba prospect i would be praying that I dont get drafted by the suns and if i do best believe im demanding a trade like they went from having too many starting calibre pg to having none and they somehow somehow fumbled the bag this year even though they had devin booker and deandre ayton like ik i sound like im ranting but ook all im saying the nba needs to get rid of teams like the suns because they are just gonna continue being dissappointing for the next 10 years
As a suns fan, it’s hard to look back and think about how good we used to be. This video was beautifully crafted to show just how miserable the front office has been this decade
