Install & Tune of the On3 Performance Forward Facing Turbo Kit - 2003 2v 4.6L Mustang GT 

With the money U made from this video U could have fucking fixed it

lol. This video hasnt even made $20. We charge $150 / hr

I love how everyone thinks youtubers all make so much money....

$150 an hour holy fack is that CANADIAN dollars 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄

@@automafiaracing what supporting mods will I need for this @ 9-10 lbs of boost?

We prefer sct

Yes we agree

We do our best!

Much easier

This is 100% why our 2v has a holley system too!

Yeah its good once you change out a ton of parts.

@@automafiaracing not a ton . A few . I guess other do better with less the some with crazy expensive stuff .

You saying the parts that come with the kit ain't no good

Ditch some of the fittings and lines.. the turbo.. the wg.. the bov...

That's what we told the customer

For this being 4 yrs old, you guys are awesome for responding so soon🙌🏼 great video!

We try to.

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sweet

Yeah it was fine once we fixed it

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LoL. If it fit correctly then no one would be complaining. Also this was several years ago. They may have improved on their kits.

Sounds fun

Thank ya. We will keep posting.

We dont work for free. If a customer doesnt want to pay us to do work, we arent going to do the work.

Id skip anything on3. Just hit us up for a procharger and enjoy it.

We checked it with a spare. Didnt change a thing.

send it

You would need a built.motor a lot of boost but yes a vortech can do it

@@automafiaracing thanks for the response, I went to the dyno today & with the v-1 s trim it made 277whp & 305tq , they told me because I have non pi heads is the reason why my numbers are so low. So I’m just going to buy a complete engine (99 or newer)& piece things together.

How much boost?

How much boost?

@@automafiaracing just under 10lbs, I have non pi heads

We havent heard back from the customer as of yet

We suggest that

Yeah kinda just depends on the model

Nah man this is like 5 years ago. Pretty sure the customer sold the ca4

We are in Billings, Montana but we are not taking on any shop work right now.

@automafiaracing ok, thanks. It was a bit of weird project anyway. It's a 5.4l step van and I also have a procharger to put on it. Too big of a truck maybe.

Yeah odd but cool project. We are just focusing on finishing existing builds right now and then finishing design and testing on some new products. We no longer have an in house mechanic so we arent doing general mechanical work.

@automafiaracing that's cool man. Thx

Maybe

For header?

This is an On3 turbo kit. you might be able to make some shortys work in reverse im not sure.

the BLOCK can take alot. 1500+

Watch your rpms and avoid slamming your drive train

With some modifications im sure it can fit.

It's not hard to 3.7 swap a new edge at all

@@automafiaracing i know Its just been very hard for me to do my swap because of resources and the fact that my car is in Virginia and I'm in sc lol I've also been fighting with the VA trying to get my disability started but they suck

Just need a parts car and an afe k member. Done.

@@automafiaracing i already have the k-member and cross member for the trans. The hard part for me is getting said parts car. I want to make videos on this swap because nobody is doing it.

Most if they are gonna spend the money will just go v8

We charge $150/hr

honestly this was the first 2v we have tried on the hptuners and I will not do it again. We will only use SCT on 2vs from now on. (this is what we did before)

@@automafiaracing I've been using hp tuners on my 2003 2v and have had good luck with it 🤷‍♂️ but then again I'm not boosted either

I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to that dude Jamery at fasterproms with his vic that they turboed with the HPtuners .. now that project is in the back burner Lmfao

the rods are only good for 425hp

@@jamespurvis8880 it's not the hp that breaks things it's the tq brenspeed explain this on a lot of his stock motor 2 and 3 valve engine videos

Thank you~! Glad yours fit ok

Ive always done the side, it's easier, more room and works well

It does it without logging it, and it does it on HP Tuners as well as on SCT.

@@automafiaracing That's odd, I had the exact issues. I took the xcal out to my expedition which has ran fine for 250,000 miles and it did the exact same thing. Tach drop out and cutting out. Switched to a new xcal and problem resolved. It doesn't make sense since the xcal is a pass through. But mine did it on seperate cars only when plugged in for datalogging. Put a dvom on a reference wire to a sensor and see if it's a voltage issue dropping out. If not, put a dvom on a ground source to a sensor to see if it's ground cut out. Take the SCT device and laptop to another Ford of the same generation of processors and attempt datalogging only with a laptop. See if you duplicate concern. Brian

Yeah weve used them with no issues. It's a brand new sct x4. Customer doesnt want to pay for us to find the issue or we would figure it out. If it were our car we would have already figured it out ;)

I love how many times i see when someone has an issue, fix it, and then think it must be positively be the only possible thing that would be wrong on someone elses ride.

Peoples cars have tons of issues

They are good cars for sure

No

Billings Montana

None at this time

Hellion kit is much nicer and includes EVERYTHING you need for installation and the instructions are absolutely AWSOME. Procharger and Hellion have the nicest forced induction kits & instructions in the industry

Im not sure the engine bay is the same, so fitment wont be the same but the motor technically is yes.

Personally id do the procharger

Do you recommend shorty headers or long tube headers? If I long tube headers on will still be able to pull transmission T3560 to replace clutch. Will I have to remove the long tube what would you recommend?

Long tube always

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Yes it could he modified to dit

Customer said no, but we barely drove it before starting work. The car is pretty trashed, airbags blown, janky welds everywhere etc.

Last i heard he sold the car and got something newer

Yes

Yes hoses change with the kit some not all but the top for sure

motor was bone stock and we havent heard from the customer again.

100% true

Hey dont be talking like that about the good lil 2v! It does its best!

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I wouldnt ever suggest an on3 turbo kit.

@@automafiaracing enlighten me please...I had it suggested by pretty well known race team as my next step if I want more power ...said I'm basically maxed out without forced induction...why not on3 and what would be your suggestions and why

@@automafiaracing I had others tell me go the route of pro charger less headache to install and more power but the price is pretty crazy on them also thought about building motor back with forged internals and just putting a bottle on it but when I said that everybody freaks on me and says don't do it you'll blow it up do a turbo....I know a guy been running his on a bottle for 5 years no issues it's not a daily but we do like to play and hit cruises as well

I'm just not a fan of on3. Never have never will be. Quality, customer service, etc.

Ik this is late but I believe your headers are completely replaced with a turbo manifold aren’t they?

Timing system for sure and oil pump

If youre going to open up a 2v, you might as well replace the pistons and rods and heads. This way you arent limited around 450 rwhp and you can bump it up to 500+ with more boost.

We didnt customer didnt come back

@@automafiaracing would a Holley terminator stand alone fix the issue?

Yes

We have one in stock for a 2v

Do you have a website?

That would depend on your budget. Boost is always the right answer but its the cheapest. We love Procharger kits and can get you a deal on one.

@@automafiaracing if i went the procharger route what supporting mods would i need? Price range will be roughly 5-10k.

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The kit and installation of pump, injectors, plugs, gauges, etc and a tune run in total parts and labor in the $5k-$7500 range depending on options.

@@automafiaracing My GOD, WHY?!!? Why in the hell would ANYONE do that when an LS swap WITH TURBO can be done for HALF of that and be done and tuned doing burnouts making 600 to 700 at the wheels? This blows my mind.... I don't hate the 2v... I have 2 of them. But there's no way in hell I would ever spend that kind of cash on one when an LS is so much stronger and cheaper...And I know... maybe a bit more than half the cost but, not much.

@@tngtacticalmiata1219 because chevy is cheap and shitty. that's why half the cost and most parts are versatile so very easy to up chevy power. Ford is pay to play.....

@@eddiedaugherty7063 cheap, maybe but, shitty? I understand the almost irresistible need to hate on the LS but, they make big power and live a long time doing it. Aaaand they're compact as hell... F*ck it.... I'm ls swapping my vic. You talked me into it.😂

Dang

send it with the LS or a coyote

We sell it

Got it off of lmr

Yes we upgraded the pump

nope

Think a bad tob

Probably

Depends what all you want.

@@automafiaracing to get it installed and tuned

Dyno tune is $750 Install of kit, injectors, boost gauge, wideband, exhaust, fuel sysetm, runs $2500-$4000+ depending on what exact parts are going in.

@@automafiaracing where are u guys located!

Arcadia, FL

Nothing to do with a knock sensor

2v don't have knock sensors. Every time I've seen the gauges do this is voltage drop.

we dont sell this kit

It was blowing our minds as well not gonna lie

It’s just hp tuners for our cars, did the same thing on mine

I mean it is old. But push rod motors do respond well to HCI modding

@jeffrey edinger not really a turd lol even stock these things ran a 5.2 0-60 everyone seems to forget they are lighter than every other muscle car by a solid 1,000 pounds lol

Very true kight weight

This is true as well hahaha

About $7500 all said and done

$150/hr. Depends on what all options. Kit and fuel pump and gauges and everything else will run 10+ hrs.

Auto Mafia Racing so between 3,000$-5000$ ??? Also can you guys do it on my V6

Yes we can make a custom kit for about $5k

we charge $150/hr labor rate plus parts

I think the customer probably got another car. That one was in VERY bad shape.

@@automafiaracing dang

Ouch

Where did you get that idea lol.

$100/hr

@@automafiaracing i think he was asking full price, number of labor hours

Dont remember. We charge more for on3 kits since they are always kinda iffy

Arcadia, FL

Lmk when u find out

$150/hr. ON3 kits can be a pain to install. Normal price will be $1500-$3500 depending on what all we are installing and if we are dyno tuning as well.

Couple grand

@@automafiaracing is it more or less than 3000?

Depends all what labor is being done

Arcadia, FL

Auto Mafia Racing what would you guys charge for the same setup. I have a a v6 and a Gt but I want my v6 to have turbos.

@@MM_45 sell it and get a cobra or 2v

@@Dungappy he has a gt

This isn't the easiest kit to install and the directions aren't that good

So what would you recommend? This is my daily driver but if I have to wait a week or two I will. But I just don't want to pay the money to get it done if it's some what doable on jack stands ya know? What's your honest opinion?

$100/hr

We only stopped because the customer asked us to. We dont work for free and i wouldnt expect anyone else to

@@automafiaracing BELIEVE ME... I would never ask or expect anyone to perform a service for free... My point is... If he brought the car in and the ECU was fine, Then would I be crazy to think that just maybe you guys did something to cause the problem... I mean if the engine blew or the trans bit the dust.. well that would atleast make sense considering the age of the car... But the ECU suddenly has problems? I know it happens but its not likely.. Anyway us Mustang guys are constantly being raped by shops.. For instance I called to get a quote from Lamotta in Fl... They did a Vortech supercharger in my 95 Cobra 12yrs ago and did fantastic work. The bill was 700$ for the install AND dyno tune... The quote for my 2001 vortech non intercooled was 1500$ not tuned... Just one example, I could go on for days.. Anyway it just seems like you guys should have gone the extra mile for the guy. He probably put everything he had into that.. Imagine how much better this vid would have been had you guys fixed the prob and did the dyno tune... People watching would think... Damn! These guys give a shit, thats were Im taking my car... Wish you guys the best man.

Yeah you didnt look close..this car.was junk. Like it was terrible. We couldnt figure out why he was dumping that much cash into it.

We do our best to treat every customer the same. If they come in with a Ferrari or a Honda. No special treatment.

We honestly thought the same thing

Maybe it’s for a younger car guy or girl🤷🏼‍♂️Ik my 2v isn’t the fastes and isn’t the cleanest but I still like trying to do stuff to it

Gregory Haha yeah I don't really care how my car looks just wanna go fast. Speed>looks.

Amen thats why all our fast cars are def not ahow cars

Short Block won't take more than 550

@@automafiaracing short block won’t take much more than 450 wheel

How did you come up with this expectation? Boost usually gives a car 7% more power. He’d have to be close to 18psi for that! Stock block can’t handle much more than 12 and that’s pushing it

@@abasiczombie. The block can handle 600whp easy, the sleeves are the weak point on a 2v mod motor. With a conservative tune it could do it. I have a 3.8L V6 making 400 whp. Have raced it for years.

@@robertwood3970 actually the rods and pistons are the weak point. Yes the block can hold the power but the internals on a stock 2v aren’t forged. Your 3.8 has the same internals stock, just minus 2 cylinders. Given the same boost, the 4.6 2v v8 will make more than your V6. And given that they both have the same internals(stock), they’ll hold a certain amount of pressure per capita of their size. The stock internals on a 2v will only hold 500 horsepower to the crank and that’s if it has a ton of fuel. 4v mod motors can hold 500 crank reliably. Yes, some can go higher and some pop way lower, but the average is 400-450whp for a 2v with 8-10psi

The oil feed line? Yeah 100% did we had it on video. 100% fixed with AN lines tho

I mean if he wants to lol

Or you could just upgrade the rods and pistons for a couple grand total and turn it up to much higher levels and you wouldn't have a bastard child car with the wrong engine in the and the car would still sound sick. Why go through all the bs to ls swap a 4.6 turbo mustang when all you gotta do to make WAY More power with the current power plant is upgrade the rods and pistons that alone is good for 600-700! Eaailh if you also upgrade to an 8 bolt forged crank while you're in there sky's the limit especially if it is a teksid block 4.6. No need to swap anything other than bottom end parts.

Agreed

lol

Lol

We charge $100-$150/hr

How many hours tho

Quite a few

@@automafiaracing quite a few as in 24+ hours or like 5 hours cause i’m willing to pay a grand or 2 too get it installed so i don’t screw anything up

Normally we charge $3500 for install and tune of our turbo kits. With on3 fitment can be sketch so then it can cost more