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They KNEW Jordan was gonna drop 30+ no matter what they did, so they had to eliminate the next best guy, so it became a one man show with Jordan. Even Jordan said that once Scottie stopped reacting to their shit & just focused on the game and winning, it was all over for Detroit.
I don't see why all the hate in the comments. He pretty much said they couldn't shut down MJ, but they could beat the Bulls with the whole team focusing on one player. Scottie has the X-Factor. The triangle was designed for the ball to be spread around. Once Scottie started taking his game seriously, and he and MJ realized what Scottie could do as the other star on the team, there was no stopping the Bulls. That's not a slight at MJ. I don' t know why people always take it that way. When the Bulls traded for Scottie's draft rights, they saw something in him that could help MJ.
No they didnt see anything in Pippen.It was just a pick that worked out of many picks that didnt before that. Salley said that they shut down Pippen but the reality is that there was nothing to shut down in Pippen in his first 2 years while in 3rd(1990) Pippen averaged what he averaged during the season despite having almost 0 contribution in game 7 because of migraine.And dont forget that Paxson didnt play in that game 7.2 starters in bulls lineup was a major blow because the roster was not deep at all and Jordan despite his efforts didnt manage to even compete for the win because of his fatique and the bad day of the rest of the squad.
@@juventinos81 Just because other picks didn't work that doesn't mean you don't expect anything from other picks. That would be silly. You might as well not even draft. Scottie was one of best players in the country from a small school back when the smaller schools were still putting a lot of good pros in various sports. So, they brought in Scottie and Horace expecting nothing out of them?
Scottie was the point guard or point forward. Despite the Jordon rules, MJ was still scoring and the Bulls were spreading the points. Therefore, they had to shut down the next player with a respectable average. The takeaway would be that the Bulls were a strong team, and Scottie's toughness improved over time.
Jordan didn't always score a lot of points against the pistons.He had some of his worst playoff scoring and shooting nights against them..Sally told you Scottie was the key.He was the Point guard...He made the whole thing work Without Scottie, the whole thing falls apart. THAT IS WHY THE JORDAN NEVER WON A PLAYOFF SERIES WITHOUT SCOTTIE ON HIS TEAM
@@nonamewillbegiven6847 well, since RU-vid, or others, are removing my comments, no use in responding to you, re - tahd. Go suck a deek, I'm sure you're highly skilled at that, tough guy.
"We find out something about Scottie" y'all found out you'd concussed him earlier in the series? Like y'all didn't know y'all was handing out concussions left and right already? 😂
@jeromenichols1154 the NBA used to be brutal in the playoffs... Detroit in the late 80s early 90s were diabolical, they'd just beat you up until everything didn't work right physically and then win the series lol
People don’t even realize in the biggest 4th qtr comeback in the finals for the bulls Gm 6 an elimination for the blazers Mj was benched to start the 4th cause Phil said Mj was ball hoggin’ though he was hittin’. I watched that 4th qtr a while back and when this was stated I verified pulling up the article. Pippen and a bunch of role players erased most of the lead while people try to say Pip wasn’t a 1st option player. Down 14 or 13 to start the 4th he and role guys cut the lead to 4 or 2 then they put Mj back in. That does not happen in the playoffs/finals let alone the 4th in an elimination gm for the opposing squad. That’s just like they discredit Pippen when Mj “retired” a few weeks before the season and they still won 55 gms but people discredit that too. He’s a better overall basketball player than any 1way player that ever played from the hall of fame on down and one of the best all around players to ever play but that gets overlooked too
@@middlfingazup2446we know MJ is one of the greatest ever. That said, Pip was my favorite Bulls player. And one of the greatest to ever do it as well. Pip's defense on Magic in their 1st Finals vs The Lakers, won the Series for them. He locked Magic up.
Yeah, Grant shot 17% from the floor that game 7. That and Pippen's migraine left Jordan to do it by himself. The Pistons can say whatever they want. Pippen had a migraine. If they had figured it out, they would have done it again in 91.
They were a great offensive team too. Very talented, strong and athletic and of course had one of the top 2 point guards of all time and top 15 player ever in Isiah Thomas. They also just so happened to be the 1st or 2nd greatest defensive team ever (it’s between them and the mid-2000s Pistons)
MJ averaged 34.2 vs pistons during the 80's with what they so called the Jordan Rules.😂 Basically meant Jordan was unstoppable. But hey it's a team sport so they did an amazing Job.
The “Jordan Rules” was everyone’s rules but that was given a special everything due to marketing and they created a “nemesis”. Mj was that dude but he won being part of a formula which was Mj, Pippen and Phil who he never won without. Not a knock cause most players do not win significant games (playoffs/finals) with a key man out though his comparison has win multiple playoffs gms w/a key guy out, won multiple series with a key guy out as well as won multiple conf finals gms and multiple finals gms with 2 key guys out like no other player in history but he gets talked about more about who he played with. If it was all Mj like people say he should’ve overcame the “migraine” game instead of still being mad about it. Pippen is more of the truth than many give him credit for and a better overall basketball player than any 1way players to ever play from the hof on down. Several months ago I watched the bulls biggest 4th qtr finals comeback in their history in an elimination game for the blazers down 14 or 13. Mj was benched to start the 4th cause Phil said Mj was shooting too much though he was hittin’ (I verified an article after this was stated) and Pippen with a bunch of role players cut the lead to 4 or 2 then put Mj back in. That doesn’t happen in the finals with the “star” on the bench but people saying Pip wasn’t a 1st option player even winning 55 gms w/Mj retiring right before the season started. None of this gets mentioned though. He was a better overall basketball player than any 1way player that ever played from the hof down but they stay ranking 1way players ahead of him like other 2way guys but it’s business entertainment based which means marketing, image creation and false narratives. Mj won a series before him, after him he won one playoff game with him out which means no matter how people try to spin never won anything without Pippen and Phil but the bowing down to certain humans have Mj elevated for the 6 chips while Pip gets lowballed for the same 6 while being the only 6’8 player w/length who can get you 20, create on his own and for others with ELITE defense.
@@Twomps hater, the hell you doing in here. Won nothing? Olympic gold, rookie of the year 4x scoring champs, defensive player of the year, back 2 back slamdunk champ, MVP. Steals leader.NCAA player of ther year NCAA champ. Come back again and tell me you're not a hater. Bec if you comeback and tell you're not. Then you're clearly a liar 😂
@@leodesilva7638I think he means MJ won no rings in the 80s. Which is true. Jordan was also all they really had besides Charles Oakley. And after drafting Pip and Grant, it took a bit for them to develop. Once they did, we know the results. 3-peat #1.
That migraine Pippen had in game 7 of the 90 eastern conference finals cost Jordan a championship. They were ready to beat the Pistons that year and go on to win one and unfortunately a fluke massive migraine Pippen had completely dismantled their chances. The Bulls swept them the next year and went on to beat the Lakers but that game still bugs me and I'm sure MJ still thinks about it. It most likely was stress induced and I'm not being critical of Pippen. They happen and they're just awful...you can't function.
Pippen’s dad passed away during the playoffs. Less than 2 weeks before the Detroit series.In his book, he says he believes that additional stress caused the migraines.
That's MJ being petty. If he thinks that. When you're a person who experiences migraines, you know it's no joke. Just the fact Pippen was able to be under those bright lights with a migraine is a miracle. You just cannot function properly with a migraine.
Lebron is more Scottie than MJ.. MJ is a true force of will 100% of the time, LBJ is a person that fills the gaps and provides opportunities for this teammates.. MJ force his team mates to rise to the occasion when they have opportunities, LBJ dont do that, he looks to take what he can get from his teammates, like Scottie. MJ goes for the kill, Scottie and LBJ looks for the right play.. Well.. some times the right play sends you home, you need to have the Balls to personally go win regardless of the situation and that was MJ. MJ built different.
There were tons of teams with Big 3s during the 80’s. With the expansion teams & draft that followed, it changed the way NBA teams structured their roster for a period.
And then the Bulls found a coach that knew how to put the rest of the team in the best positions to put points on the board... and that's all she wrote...
@@markharbaugh4445The Bulls got better as a team naturally. Phil and the triangle aren't winning anything on the 80s Bulls. Phil isn't mythical he had the best player in the league with a sidekick in or reaching their prime every time he coached
Yeah, “stop folding under pressure” thank his lucky stars he came across the work ethic and commitment to winning attitude of Micheal Jordan, Gary Payton wouldn’t have put the same heart in Scottie.
Sally's memory is worse than my grandma's lol. So in 90' Scottie couldnt play cuz he had a migraine. I remember watching all those games at my uncle's house. Also, I grew up a Raptors fan. Sally said Kobe was gonna go for 100 the night he scored 81 on the raps, but Phil took him out with 5min to go lol.. His memory is worse than Shaq's.
Not a Myth, anyone watch at that time (like me) knew what it was.. The pressure go to Scottie and he needed to grow up. He was too talented to let some bullies make him go home.. He realized that the next year.
@@ragingoracle6239 LOL "everyone knew it." Maybe, maybe not. I'm a professor in a medical school, so you'll understand if I'm dubious what "everyone knew." Everyone also called Jordan's "flu game" an I said "fat chance, food poisoning. Defended that for like 25 years then The Last Dance says yeah, it was food poisoning. So I tend not to take the dick swinging interpretation too seriously.
@@David-iv6je Well we know it was a migraine. Icing the back of the Neck, sensitivity to light, etc.. all the symptoms of that and you saw it when he was on the bench.. So its more likely than not that its not a myth, and that is the point of contention with your statement.
you are smoking crack LMAO shaq played with kobe. check their stats. pippen is a career 16ppg player who was about to miss the playoffs until jordan came out of retirement. sure they were something like 50-32 one season. pippen is mid at best. great defender some good highlights. allen iverson, shaq, kobe, lebron, steph, tim duncan, KD, Charles barkley. and im ignoring all time greats like Magic, Bird, Wilt, etc. is there one player here you would take pippen over? fuck no. he isnt all that lmao
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 that would go for a lot of players, past and present then. This just isn't true. That said, I don't agree that Pippen is underrated nor overrated.
Exactly. No one player can beat an entire team. There has to be at least a second option. For Jordan it was Pippen, but Pippen all by himself was not going to be a franchise player.
John sally played with the bulls and is friends with mj. You didn’t listen to the video at all. He said that they COULDNT STOP Jordan but also realized with the way they had to guard to even contain him, it made Scottie’s skillset a problem that they as a team couldn’t recover from
So then, if this is true, then why did Isiah Thomas scoff at the idea of Scottie Pippen being at all worthy of getting to talk about not wanting him on the Dream Team? He said he understood if someone of MJ's caliber didn't want him, but made it pretty clear that he thought Scottie wasn't at that level. Does Salley disagree with the captain of his Bad Boy Pistons? He gives Pippen so much credit whereas Isiah clearly didn't think much of him. And did the Pistons need to stop Scottie in 1989 or is this just a story crafted for the 1990 series to fit in with the migraine? Game 7 on the road in itself is almost impossible to win. Salley is just trying to take away credit from Jordan by giving it to Scottie in the usual attempts undermine Jordan's GOAT case in the fake GOAT debate against LeBron. We already know that Isiah and Laimbeer have claimed that LeBron is the GOAT and Salley is probably no different. Dumars and Rodman are the only honest ones.
MJ and them definitely kept Isiah off that Dream Team LOL I think they punished him for how ROUGH The Bad Boy Pistons were. They weren't mad at him, they were mad at Laimbeer, Mahorn, Rodman, James Edwards etc LOL
He was saying they knew they couldn't shut MJ down, they hoped they could contain him. But they knew he was gonna get his. So they tried to bully and shut down Scottie. It worked for a bit while he was developing. They'd frazzle him, get him upset, smack him. But once he became mentally tough and the stars aligned in Scottie's head, it was over.
Go see how old the players you talk about were, then go see how old MJ was in 96-97-98 when he 3peated again. Isiah acts like what Pistons did in 90 was the greatest feat ever. And suddenly, everyone got old? In the summer of 1990, all the legends got old at the same time!!!! Weird eh?
This post is inaccurate. Who did the Bulls beat for their 1st Chip? MAGIC and the Lakers. Who did they beat to get to that Finals? Isiah and The Pistons. I think they beat Sir Charles and my Home-Town 76ers in at least one of those Championship runs. I don't think they ran up against Boston. Bird was falling apart bc of his back injury in 87 I believe, still played at a HIGH LEVEL, he wasn't "old". Dr J retired in like 86 but Philly was still competing. Cs won The Finals in 86, Lakers won the Finals in 87 and 88, lost the Finals to Detroit in 89, Detroit repeated in 90, the Bulls swept Detroit in 91 and beat LA in those Finals. Nobody was "old", Scottie had come into his own, and MJ and The Bulls could no longer be stopped. Also, The East was STACKED. MURDEROUS THEN.
Lots of truth to this. Scottie was the best overall player on the floor when the Bulls finally beat Detroit and in that series Jordan only had to average a pedestrian 18 shots instead of his usual 25+ attempts.
Please best overall player for the bulls was jordan scottie let the pistons punk him all of a sudden I got a migraine if it was all about scottie then why did they have to try and hurt jordan going to the hole people will believe anything if not for them beating up on m.j. the bulls would have still won without scottie
Was Pippen really the better overall player? Jordan put up ~30 pts, 7rbs, 5 assts, 2 stls, and 2 blks. Pippen put up ~22 pts, 8 rbs, 5 assts, 3 stls, and 2 blks. Basic stats don't tell everything, but I'd say MJ was a little better especially given that he was doing what he was doing while receiving more attention.
