Lets try the Byrna LE!!! | We finally have it!! 

Oh, it’s coming! :)

Thanks Brother!! Yeah, it caught me off guard too :) Thanks for watching!

Thanks brother! I have something very interested in coming up that just arrived :-) you’re gonna laugh your butt off.

Thanks Brother!! Yeah, poor skully has the roughest job in the industry :)

I have a fairly extensive collection of Byrna’s, and I suspect I’m going to do a head to head shortly. They haven’t let me down yet. :)

With more to come!

Thanks Brother! Im an old school gamer... Always have been, always will be :)

Thanks Brother!! You know me, a gamer to the core :-)

I was pleasantly surprised :) I'll be carrying this one from time to time.

Dang, I want 2 but can't afford it at this time.

Yeah, it surprised me! Poor skully :)

Thanks Brother! I have plans for this one :)

I’m not gonna lie brother, that actually made me laugh a little bit. Can you imagine telling somebody that your launcher runs on 10W-40 :-)

Thanks Brother!

There are a few folks doing minor mods to the byrnas but the are not designed “user friendly” for disassembly. The HDB is coming :)

@@AlternateArmsSDwhat's HDB?

Thanks Brother! My friend, I have been talking back-and-forth with Grimburg now for almost a year. They keep promising to send out a launcher for the channel, yet here we are. I’m not sure what the problem is. If you’d like to give me a hand, jump on their RU-vid channel and request that they send one to this channel for testing. Every little bit helps my friend.

Heh, yeah, I’m not a huge fan of the orange either. However, if this was a “car weapon” it wouldn’t matter. I had to use your point out that some agencies and police departments actually required that are less than lethal speak color, orange, or yellow. That was a fantastic point. Also, there are some countries, and even states in the US, we’re it must be brightly colored to identify it as a nonlethal.

Thanks Brother! That was so strange. Did you see that they clipped parts of this and posted it in the byrna page? :)

@@AlternateArmsSD oh yes i am subscribed to their channel. For a second i thought you lost your mind and posted your vid again. I am just catching up now since my internet was out for a bit.

@@lesslethalfordummies ROFL!! I met those folks at ShotShow. They were a cool bunch! I hope to see them again in January.

@@lesslethalfordummies Heh, their editing skills are FAR better than mine :)

@@AlternateArmsSD one could argue everyones editing skills are better then mine.

Thanks man!

Yeah, if they hit and maintain 460’s then these would be top dog. This makes me ant to test the Grimburg more and more!

@@AlternateArmsSD man that would be awesome to see you test out the gavle love your channel !

Thanks Brother! Ive been talking to them and they keep promising... We shall see :)@@RapidAssaultDefense

When is the release date for the newest improved version ?

@@H.avery355 they keep teasing me with that :-) they won’t give me a definitive date. They just keep telling me that something big is about to drop. My guess, they’ll release it at shot show in January.

Hehe no, just a TON of experience with them since I was about 8 :)

Yep! Im working on that now,. There was some sort of bottleneck with their policies on sending units to "influencers" but it seems that may have been corrected.

Keep on, Keeping on Jon.

Yes indeed! Ive actually had folks buy launchers BECAUSE they were orange due to restrictions in their states/countries or just personal preference.

​​@@AlternateArmsSDI am planning on getting an orange LE/SD (or EP) when I get the chance for that exact reason. The Tan one I am using is nice looking but may not be signaling the right thing using it for EDC. Either way, I'm glad that Byrna is innovating. And still, the 7 rd mags are nice and worth testing.

Depends upon state. I am approved by state, county, and city. I carry a black launcher. Have been seen by PD carrying. Only comment was, how does your lancer compare to byrna

@@brotre3 i’m planning ahead to head with the Byrna and the Lancer, but I’ll be honest, I don’t think that the hornet or the scorpion is going to be able to keep up with the power output of the Byrna. However, they are both easier to conceal for sure.

I'm glad I just irdered an orange one then.

Understood brother, you might take a look at the salt supply S2. It maybe exactly what you’re looking for. have any of us up on it as well as head-to-head comparison’s.

Watch my head to head brother! Its the next video... (I caught so much flack for testing it like that) :)

I'm watching it right now. I understood your point of why you're doing this I didn't notice the video till after I commented. That's why I edited. Some of the people perhaps didn't understand what you were talking about at the beginning concerning puncture & fire. Byrna perhaps is realizing people want more power although they may be concerned about exactly doing that. Legal ramifications ecetera. I do want to comment about bright colors being used on some less lethal launchers. As you know actual firearms are available in wonderful bright colors as well. Law enforcement does not have the luxury to make determinations by colors which weapon maybe a firearm or not. Also, as shown less lethal could still stop somebody including police. Thank you again for all your hard work.

The Byrna riot balls are great. I prefer the rubber/steel balls and a high quality pepperball is always great!

Hey brother, welcome to the family. I can understand your trepidation, but I can also tell you after hundreds and hundreds of tests. I am 100% advanced of these will put a person down without having to kill them. Also, I am 100% convinced that you should mix a mix of kinetic rounds with a high-quality pepper ball round. Thanks for watching!

Oh, now that would SUCK :) Maintenance and practice are always a good thing ;)

No, they hit very very hard. However, they have a lot of contenders crawling up from behind them, so they better be careful :-) they’re king of the hill at the moment, but who knows what’s coming.

I certainly will. That’s actually on the block for this week :-)

That would be my guess. I was talking to a fellow RU-vidr about disassembling the burner, and he said that it looked like it was literally designed like a time bomb to explode when taken apart. :-) my guess is that they honed out the internal cylinder to hold a bit more air. A little bit of air on the inside is a great deal of increase on power on the outside. Also, it does have me wondering what kind of power you get out of that primary shot with an extended barrel. Perhaps we will find out :-)

Hey man! I have a whole Byrna series planned now :)

Greets! Thats EXACTLY the type of input I was hoping for! I had a gentleman with a background similar to yours tell me that the pell gun oil can cause the degradation of the seals. I haven't personally verified, nor would I even know where to start, but his explanation and yours seem reasonable. I'm using the T4E oil myself. As for what's in the C02 cart labels "oil", I sent an email to them right after this posted. We shall see what the response is.

Good afternoon was wondering did you hear back about the CO2 marked oil yet and how do you use it ​@@AlternateArmsSD

Ill hit that in the next Byrna head to head. Great idea!

Another RU-vidr got like 4 clips but it had bottomed around 11 joules for those last two clips still impressive.

Oh yeah! This would get the job done for sure.

I am not sure about the warranty (but I’ll ask them at shotshow). I have fired rubber/steel rounds around 5grams and they fired normally.

Hey Brother! Check out the Grimburg jule ammo. They are heavy and brutal out of the Le.

@@AlternateArmsSD Wow, those little buggers look like they can really do some damage! Thank you!

@@kevinb1574 Oh yes they can! My pleasure Brother!

The nice thing about these is that you don’t have to. You can leave it on fire and keep it that way. I’m goi g to demonstrate the difference in the next video.

Nice! Than you.

It's not actually that hard to train yourself to flip the safety as you fire, but it does add a second or two to the process if you're not used to it yet which sometimes could be the difference between who gets the first shot off first. I've joked with my son about putting the kevlar vests on and seeing who can draw and fire first, but for some reason he won't take me up on it lol 😆

@@Joreel Oh man, I don’t know about you, but on a quick draw at 10 to fire high 6 inches. Can you imagine firing center mass in a duel like that and hitting the neck. Yikes.

Thanks Brother! I don't think Id risk it... There simply isn't any play when that magazine is topped off with 7.

Yeah, I hear you on that. They make for great hosts for Mr Wixon’s 10 and 14 extenders! I’m guessing that too is on the list for testing.

@@JackofNothingess They are indeed! I have SO many emails to send out :)

@@AlternateArmsSD The 2x 10 extenders I got are amazing, and could still fit for EDC, as my torso is quite large. And, the 14 extenders, though too chunky for EDC, make for a great home defense LTL sidearm. They greatly improve the capabilities of the Byrna.

Do me a favor Brother, will you shoot me their info.. Jonreynoldscts@gmail.com@@JackofNothingess

What specifically would you like to know. Perhaps I can put something together.

Hi. Just a basic simple step by step tutorial on how to use it, load it, store it, hold it. ​@CompleteTechnologySolutions

​@CompleteTechnologySolutions Also, I have been thinking.... like where and when should I have it on me. We can't always have it. Like going to work.... (I have to walk across this long parking lot.) Going swimming at the beach, traveling out of country. Walking around NYC? I bet people can't take it to school? Does extreme temperatures affect it? Should I hang it in that compartment flap on the inside of my camping tent? What if a branch hits it, will it go off? Shooting my eye out? Should I sit on the couch with it holstered to my yoga pants, while I await for the pizza delivery guy? Should I use it on a mass shooter in Walmart? Should I always have it in the bathroom when I take a shower? Should I keep it locked up? I'm joking but I'm not! Should I take it to the movies???? If so, how do I hide a Byrna LE on me when I'm wearing a tee shirt in 98 degrees weather out? Don't say to store it in my car either because the reason I bought one was because someone smashed our car windows and went through my glove box the other day. At home. Then I got to thinking, this will be good to have when I go on my hikes or am on my bicycle. Then again, will it be in my way? Riding a bike. I mean, I'm somewhat serious, and somewhat being funny. The reality is that I'm not always going to be armed. I guess I just hope I am if I really needed it. Btw, I live in Connecticut. So recap: #1 How to use it, etc. #2 Where and when. BTW, I'm just curious....what happens if someone is hit in the nose, ears, eyes, throat, knees, or groin with these? Should you? And what if it's 5 degrees out and your attacker is wearing layers of coats? And btw, I guess I should start wearing gloves instead of mittens? So I can operate this thing. As is, I can never even push the button up fast enough on my flashlight stun gun. If you're laughing or think I'm crazy. That's fine. But I shall have this Byrna LE in my possession by tomorrow. Thanks!

Ill see if I can put something together ;)@@danab172

Will do!@@danab172

Oh, there’s no comparison brother. The LE is considerably more powerful and has a much higher payload. However, once you modify the HDP 50, it becomes more powerful.

I’ll see if I can locate one. The funny thing is, it’s not just the impact, or how little the mask actually offered protection, but how much is buried in skully behind the mask. It’s like it didn’t even exist :-)

It can repeat as fast as you can pull the trigger. I have to put them in the time between shots for accuracy and the Chrono.

Hehe No worries Brother! You can try a cold reset. If the drive is still spinning, hold the eject and reboot the unit. If its not, the drive could have died. Its an easy swap.

@CompleteTechnologySolutions Thanks for the info. I really appreciate your help. 😊 It's a lot better than hitting with a hammer while yelling at it "You Made Me do This"!!. 😱😱

ROFL! Oh, Ive had days like that ;)@@kennymike7937

Brother, I’ve been trying to get one on the show for a year. I talk to the people at Grimburg almost weekly. Kurt is a hell of a nice guy, but I just can’t seem to make the connection and get one test. I’m one of those trust but verify people so, even though I’ve heard they’re fantastic, I can’t give you a true opinion until I get one. However, I have them as the first interview I’m doing at SHOT Show in a couple weeks. Stay tuned!

@@AlternateArmsSD doesn't have magazines, but 20 Jules of force, same ft/sec as LE. Ordered a Byrna LE. I won't be sorry?

@@kramkram2 No you won’t. You can’t go wrong either way!

Give us time Brother :) Folks are working on it now.

Its a hitter for sure ;)

Yes you can! You just lose a few shots.

On the LE I found that it would fire around 14 on one C02. However, you change the magazines which eliminates the need for reloads.

You know, I think your right. Part of me thinks that retooling a factory to make a different launcher is far more expense that just adding on the extension. We shall see.

Just to be clear.. there is no way Id risk that brother. Ca, NY, NJ They are states that punish the law abiding citizens by not allowing them to defend themselves. I know that they can use kinetic rounds but I believe (and please feel free to fact check this) that pepperballs are on the no go list. (Which is strange and pepper sprays aren’t) ….. Thanks man!

@@AlternateArmsSD thank you man 👍

@@ww2guy88 My pleasure brother!

I believe you can ship in ny but can own them which is an odd rule

Yep!@@JoeD0920

Great question and I just confirmed with byrna. You’re supposed to use one of those cartridges for every 500 rounds put through the launcher. It just oils all of the internal parts. I would probably use them a little more frequently but that’s what I was told.

VERY true! Im also thinking a dye job might be in order.. but .... we shall see :)

The beauty of that launcher is that you don’t have to charge it until you need it.

I would tend to agree. However, there are some states that simply don't allow them. Its a shame really.

Until the person U-Pull-It on pulls out a real gun

@@MrPbip Fortunately, we don’t live in the OK corral and most humans aren’t supermen. Pava and OC will put the baddest boy down fast. Also, don’t forget the most important rule, don’t pull it until you are prepared to use it.

Keep in mind, Scully, while he is printed dense, is not as hard as human skull. I have a ballistics gel dummy ordered and when it comes in, we’re going to do some very close range testing with these. At the average engagement range of 3 to 5 m it would absolutely not be deadly. However, that’s not to say it would be pleasant. :-)

No, you will not crack a skull unless you are incredibly close. However, it would definitely be a debilitating shot that would stop the attacker. Also, if you mix a pepperball into that, the game is over.

@@AlternateArmsSD Execelent 🦸‍♂️

That’s a fact, with umarex weapons, you can get a lot of power with a few modifications. However, out of the box in stock form, it’s hard to rival that kind of performance. However, it does make me want to get the Grimburg in here even more! :-)

This is not a firearm. The same laws that would apply to this would apply to pepper spray. I’d verify the laws and regulations in your local areas

Hiya James! Shoot me an email Brother! Jonreynoldscts@gmail.com

@@AlternateArmsSD aww man lol Ok I understand. After I look at the list you sent me I found it thank you by the way 😊. I am going to look through the whole list and then just go to you tube too see what everything is first then give you a shout with e mail. One other quick question can I use the pre pay credit card they sell in town as long as it is a Visa ? This way I won’t have to bug my mother to use her card to pay. It would make it a lot easier on my end I really do not like to use other peoples credit cards if I can use my own . I have used the pre pay visa with cabelas a couple of times and had no problems. So if that’s ok I will send you a E mail tomorrow if that is ok . Thank you John

Thats fine man! I am setup for everything over here :) @@Pixie-lw6sq

Right on sounds good

Hey man can’t figure out e mail going to get my mom to show me how I don’t know wtf is going on in my corner but it just won’t work …… any HDB t4e available?