Psychology Tip: To test if your friend is a narcissist, tell them you have a live squirrel inside your chest. Now *pay close attention* because their next reaction will tell you everything. If they have a hopeful look in their eye, it means they are a squirrel, and they think the squirrel in your chest might be their long lost sister. But if they have a hungry look in their eye, *they are a cannibal squirrel* and you need to flee as fast as you can
I told my friend this, and they chased me down and assaulted me, and now I’m on life support… guess she really was a narcissist/cannibal and actually a squirrel! Thanks for this helpful tip!
I like how they treat manipulation tactics like they're some kind of "dark magic". Really adds a lot of whimsy to the act of lying and manipulating people
When you add “dark” in front of any other field, it sounds silly. Like “dark engineering” or “dark agriculture.” Imagine being like “hey! What are you studying?” and they respond with “oh! I’m majoring in dark environmental science with a minor in dark geology.”
@@ziesnowleoparddark calculus Which is just regular calculus honestly No matter your skills in any given field, even advanced mathematics, We shouldn't be dealing with numbers too much. There's something scary about the imaginary number and I had to crash through at least two weeks on using the damn thing Don't remember a single equation but I'm okay with that. We built the tower of babel with the power of numbers now look at us there's literally greek in my formulas :(
@@Rosemary46840try googling “hyperbole” and using it as a device to perform rhetorical analysis on the previous comment. or don’t, idrgaf bc youtube comments aren’t that deep which you clearly don’t understand XD
I love how the "dark psychology" bros are just an update to the thinking of "insert gifts, receive sex;" that we're just robots that just need to be hacked correctly to reliable dispense The Sex.
I love it when a homo rapeiens makes a youtube video saying something like "and what are women gonna do when realistic robot dolls come out, huh?". Not be harassed. That's what we're gonna do.
I've known schizophrenic people that, when exposed to this concept of 'dark psychology', experienced serious exacerbations of their paranoia after contemplating the possibility that people were doing this to them. It compromised their interpersonal relationships to a massive degree. This stuff hurts people.
To clarify, I'm specifically referring to the term 'dark psychology' as propagated through these clout-chasing 'influencers' as opposed to actual techniques of psychological manipulation, which are referred to by actual professionals as 'psychological manipulation', not 'dark psychology' because they aren't sorcerers and neither is your toxic ex.
@Plutonium.2 yeah im realistically paranoid, every action i did was justified in the eyes of others eventually Because im up to date on all the dangers
@@guythat779 Again, that kinda definitively means you don't experience the same imbalances as a paranoid schizophrenic person, so I'm curious what relevance this comment had to you.
As a psychologist, it’s always really validating and humbling when people disagree with my professional opinion because it doesn’t coincide with the PSYCHOLOGY FACTS they saw on TikTok once
its so annoyingly cause u have to go through so much work just to form a correlation NOT CAUSATION in psychology but these tiktok psychologists only have to type something on their phones for people to see it as “real facts”
As a ‘female’, I can confirm that we will indeed fall in love with anyone who constantly speaks in sarcasm, because if overused, it never loses its humour and in no way appears like they think we are stupid 👍🏼
Yeah! Once, I had a male creature sarcastically say my dog was hanging out indoors when I saw that he got ran over by a car! I had never felt so attracted before!
If a man talks to me sarcastically I have no choice but to just break up with my girlfriend and become straight Like its just so attractive when a man talks to me like I have the mentality of a bag of rocks
As a psychology major, it drives me crazy how much pop-psych has poisoned most people's concept of how the human mind works. It seems anyone can make up a new difference between men and women, or how to tell if your crush likes you, and people will spread it around like influenza. Actual psychology is so fascinating that I struggle to see why people need to make up things to talk about.
Thanks for highlighting these two terms "PSYCHOLOGY" and "POP PSYCHOLOGY" as people' tend to conflate the two Especially Gen Z thinks that Pop psych is actually psychology and totally remain oblivious to the fact that Pop psych is just another branch or field of study in Psychology .
Actual psychology is sometime absolutely unscientific and rubbish since a. we don't really understand what happens in people's head and b. a lot of psychologists sells pop psychology. So it's extremely easy to understand why people are so interested by pop psychology since it always has been a thing, even in the actual discipline.
I wish we could get dark versions of other scientific fields, like Dark Geology (cursing rocks to have the opposite effects alt health gurus say they do) or Dark Entomology (Breeding killer bees in your estranged parents backyard)
Dark geology: throw a uranium mineral at your ex's window Dark chemistry: open the gas stove at your ex's house during the winter Dark biology: poison your neighbour Dark physics: car go vroom over mother in law
@@ashikjaman1940 I feel like dark physics actually has to do with dark matter and dark energy. I would say the Manhattan Project was actually very bright physics.
After watching this and downloading TikTok I've become a licensed psychologist. Now I can keep the money I saved up for a psychology degree and buy a private jet. Thank you Chad Chad. 👍🏻
There's something that *really* freaks me out about those "dark psychology" videos: Half of them look like an abuser's handbook and I've had a friend that definitely did that cycle of validation before pulling away to me. And it pains me to admit that it worked until he went after my partner.
I’m sorry that happened to you, and you’re right. They’re just adults teaching minors (mostly teenagers) that it’s okay to manipulate and abuse someone, and giving step-by-steps on how to do so.
Yeah, those videos are literally just “how to abuse the person you’re romantically attracted to”. Great thing to show teenagers, who as an age group already lack empathy because their brains aren’t fully developed yet.
I'm so sorry you went through that. I completely agree though, that's basically exactly what it is if not just manipulation. So gross how that blonde person is presenting it like some cute informative video
What did you do then? I recommend kicking people out of one's life that do that. If someone makes you feel bad, let them go and look for better friends. I wouldn't stay in a work evironment either, where they use this shit - find a better place if you can.
@@ginny3599 Oh yeah, I kicked him out of my life. Three times before it (hopefully) stuck, one of which he infiltrated our online friend group under a false identity. Absolutely agree that you should remove people from your life that are manipulative/abusive like that.
You just have to compliment the human females. Say nice things like "I really admire the shape of your skull" or "My favorite part of you is the part that's covered in skin". Works every time.
As a skeleton, I find this to be very manipulative as I'm a female without skin. It makes me question if i accidentally got skin on me from my last meal, but I do like being complemented on my skull shape as i spent a lot of time shining it every morning.
@@katherinebattle3780 fr. I dont get the hate for people calling women females in this comment section. It's just another word for woman! What's the big problem????
@@occultsupport I think it’s because a majority of the examples used in this video are for men trying to get women, and in a lot of those videos, they refer to women as ‘females’ way more than theyre calling dudes ‘males’. This is the same for a lot of those dumb dating advice videos too. But referring to women as ‘females’ is seen as rude because that word gives a connotation that you think lesser of them, like they’re animals. They do mean the same thing, but again, different words for things can have negative or positive connotation that put a spin on things. Calling men ‘males’ can also have that same negative connotation, but it isn’t being pointed out as much because it simply isn’t being used to describe men by people like the examples in this video more than they are calling women ‘females’, so people are less inclined to point it out in the first place. Sorry for the essay, I just like explaining things and I hope you understood.
@@komrade_kolt bebe can you open your fuckin eyes? Women are calling men "males" to degrade them more then any of the men you've met in your life. So you can stop lying now
@@katherinebattle3780 Female is not another word for woman. The terms male and female can be applied to any animal while man is define as “human male” and woman is defined as “human female.” This makes using the terms male and female come across as dehumanizing.
istg people throw around the words narcissist and antisocial in the same way they used to throw around depression when someone was sad because they lost a game in 2013
It really does just feel like everyone just moved on from using the word "psychopath" to describe shitty people to using the word "narcissist." Some people will run through every disorder in the DSM before they think to reflect on their behavior
As an incoming psych major who wants to be a psychologist for a living, the concept of “dark psychology” is probably the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. It reminds me of the dark academia aesthetic and dark magic, which must be what they’re connecting it to. Also, the dark psychology hot and cold girl was also in Drew Gooden’s video about getting taller. I think she spreads a lot of false information.
as an occultist it was the dark magic connection i linked to first. especially surrounding the concepts of like forcing people to fall in love with you. baby witches grow out of that stuff as they learn how magic actually works. is it similar with psychology and intellectualism?
I am a person with npd and I’ve been feeling pretty awful lately because of this “narcissistic abuse” rhetoric online and seeing creators I look up to repeating it, and I was pretty scared to watch this video because of how awful people are to anyone with a personality disorder but omg thank you for being so normal it actually made my day to see someone even just sympathise with a hypothetical “narcissist”. The bar is low but that’s still incredibly rare so thank you so much, genuinely.
Omg this!! I'm not diagnosed with npd but I share some characteristics, what pisses me off is that it just feeds into the stigmatizing ideology of "good mentally ill" vs "bad mentally ill", like you wouldn't say depression abuse or OCD abuse, so why is "narcissistic abuse" a thing,, there are different kinds of abuse like emotional, physical, mental, etc but narcissistic abuse is not one of them and it only serves to villainise people with npd, whilst also ignoring the fact that a lot of people with personality disorders suffered abuse and trauma. Y'all just say abuse istg
@@Entityyy303 especially considering the fact that “narcissistic abuse” is literally a term made up by reddit it is not a real phenomenon or term recognised within psychology
@@Entityyy303 So real ! I'm sick of these "mental health advocates" who will slap the word narcissist as an insult to whatever they dislike. They seem to completely ignore that npd also stems from trauma and narcissists are victims and suffering in some way too.
To be fair, a lot of people with NPD are abusive and form toxic relationships with people. Their symptoms are basically characterized by lacking empathy, having difficulties controlling emotions, having anger issues, having an inflated sense of self, lashing out at people and being manipulative. Of course, I think people with NPD can heal, but they rarely seek treatment because they don't see problems in their behaviors. I do believe that personality disorders are heavily stigmatized, and people with personality disorders should be met with compassion and understanding. Coming from someone with BPD, which is similar to NPD in a sense that were both stigmatized for being abusive, manipulative, and impulsive, I do understand how upsetting it is to be defined by our disorders, and to be automatically labeled as horrible people who only hurt others.
@@TheDealer666 i should correct you on a couple of points- 1, people with npd don’t actually have an inflated self esteem. The name is misleading but we actually have exactly the opposite. Npd develops from trauma and delusional episodes of grandiosity we experience are our brains way of coping with extreme self hatred. 2. “A lot of people with npd are abusive” isn’t actually true. A lot of people will armchair diagnose their abusers with npd sure, but out of people professionally diagnosed we are far more likely to be victims of abuse. There are people with npd who are assholes just like there are people with autism or ocd who are assholes. My abuser had BPD and I’m not going around saying I’m a victim of BPD abuse. 3, we aren’t unlikely to seek treatment because we see nothing wrong with us. Most people with npd are well aware of our illness, and we have the highest suicide rate of any cluster b disorder. We are unlikely to seek treatment because our diagnosis is so heavily stigmatised that some therapists will outright decline to help us, which you can probably imagine doesn’t feel great.
You plannin on using the hot-cold-sarcasm-humor-darkpsych methods to make them love you to get the grade? Nice, true alpha-sigma lone wolf gigachad behavior.
I'm so glad content like this is trending. Chad Chad is a great example of being extremely funny while still shutting down harmful behavior, its extremely fun to watch and good to know this content is reaching so many people.
My psych professor told us that “everyone is a psychologist, because we all see behavior being performed daily and can make inferences based on our experience. What separates the psychologist from the researcher is the mitigation of biases and putting aside that personal experience to evaluate and test a phenomenon.”
I don't remember if my professor said anything similar, but he DID say that if you suck your thumb as a baby you'll grow up to become anal retentive, so... I dropped my psych major and became a poet because what the fuck.
@@WillowBark157 Because it's dehumanizing. Like you're talking about them like you'd talk about an animal. Edit: Y'all I know humans are animals don't need to all repeat the same thing. And what most of these incels or men trying to teach other men how to pick up women do is they're going to refer to men with words such as, guys, men, boys. But when it comes to women they're almost always going to use the word female. That's where the dehumanization comes in. It's one thing to use the word female to clear up confusion example saying "My female friend" instead of "My girl friend" to avoid confusion. that one is fine. But that's not what these people are doing.
As a psychology teacher, these "dark" psychology facts on social media drive me up a wall. I try to debunk this stuff to my impressionable teenage students all of the time. Ugh!
I love the private jet one. I like imagining that woman has done that "trick" a lot and thinks everyone around her are narcissists, when actually they're giving her a confused, incredulous smile that anyone would just make up a private jet story like a first grader making up really obvious shit to impress people.
Fr. Imagine a grown woman approaches you and is like, "Hey my name is Janet and by the way my dad owns a private jet. Just kidding! I don't, but since you're laughing at me, that's probably a red flag that you were planning on using me and you're a narcissist. Okay bye!"
So I’m a real life therapist (licensed and everything) and also a very online younger millennial. The landscape of mental health and psychology discourse online is so interesting. Like, yes, anxiety is a lot more normalized now. Fantastic. People are more aware of neurodivergence. Great. But also not everyone you meet has borderline or narcissistic personality disorder and not everything is directly explainable by a psychology “fact”. Like the only thing that’s true about people is that nothing is universally true.
It's people who have no idea what the DSM is explaining to other people who also have no idea what the DSM is how to diagnose a complete stranger based off one manufactured interaction.
I started studying psychology two tears ago and the most frustrating part about it was having to learn about all these older renowned psychologists coming up with their theories and acting like they were universally true
@@natkatmac I often wish to print out the entirety of the DSM-5 and whack anyone who says: Oh but the DSM says being trans is a mental illness Just. Start with a solid hip swing.
As someone with diagnosed BPD but doing a lot better these days, it's gross to see how crucified people with it are. It's one of the most emotionally torturous disorders and although there's plenty of people who don't get help and let it ruin their and others lives, there's lots of us doing work to get help and be better people and control emotions better.
If you think about it, every interaction you have with someone os msnupilation You kissed your partner??!? What are you trying to do, imbed your image and pavlovianly attach it to a good feeling? Manupilative whore
I love how they always say "this tactic is guaranteed to work!" no its not. most people you're going to chase away with your creepy manipulative behavior. I heard a story recently where the person said their ex would do the "we need to talk" thing just like the creepy guy in the video and then refuse to give them any details and give them stress and anxiety all day until they could talk to them in person, and then it would even be anything important, not even a serious discussion. They said they told their ex they didn't like this and asked them to stop and they agreed to. Then they continued to do it so they broke up with them. It's manipulative behavior meant to stress someone out so that when you talk you're way more likely to agree with whatever they ask because you're so relieved its not some relationship defining discussion.
Oh, they did the same at the last job I was. Truly hateful disgusting people there! I left that fucking shithole of a place and worte them a super bad kununu review (because of course they do more shitty things there then that and even go against the law).
Those "Dark Psychology" TikToks have the same energy as that prohibition-era grape juice with a label essentially saying: "Warning: Do not follow this series of detailed steps or this grape juice would turn into wine."
Hey absolutely don't mix potassium chlorate with some iron powder and zinc and coal powder then put it in a pipe To avoid that absolutely do not boil nleach till you're left with half its volume That'll make a pipe bomb and you absolutely dont want that
That "dark psychology tip" about saying "Oh I have something to tell you, actually nevermind!" is exactly why I broke up with two different people lmao. I get extremely bored of mind games. Like aight, have fun with your lack of communication skills, I'm gonna go make out with someone else.
Word, I'm a hot bitch, I'm not wasting all this on someone who can't even manage to communicate. I dropped three people in the same week (I'm non-monogamous) because they wouldn't communicate directly.
I really hate the laugh one because it happened to me. A few years ago I was chatting with a friend of a friend, he made some funny jokes so I laughed. About 10 min later I mentioned my boyfriend and the dude got mad "If you have a boyfriend why do you laugh at my jokeS?!". I had to explain to him that I laughed because it was funny, not a pleasant conversation to have! We were in our mid 20s, still blows my mind how aggressive he became
Didn't you know? Having a boyfriend means your sense of humour turns to ashes and gets absorbed by your pancreas. It's the sacrifice you make in order to feel love. #TrueBiologyFacts
@@error-try-again-lateryour body's hormonal makeup will change so that you're only able to laugh at your boyfriend's jokes anymore. Only one dude at a time, ladies!
I have many friends with great senses of humor and it's pretty easy to make me laugh... oh no... looks like I'm about to date everyone in my inner-to-sorta-distant circle
I don't know if I'm just really fragile in terms of friendships but whenever someone tries to do "psychology test" bullshit on me I just feel betrayed and I don't remember staying friends with people who have tried it
nah, that's not fragility, that's basic self-esteem and healthy expectations of how people treat each other. don't let this garbage 'content' convince you otherwise. these people are a classic loud minority in their beliefs; don't settle for people who try and dishonestly test and manipulate you and you'll find others who will treat you as well as you deserve (who you can then treat well in return!).
One of my closest friends did something along these lines with me many years back. I think she was feeling insecure or having a mental health episode, and wanted to test to see if I cared about her. I didn't respond how she thought I should, so she got really sad and despondent. When I found out that she'd done it, I felt kind of betrayed. I told her in no uncertain terms never to do anything like that again. It genuinely hurt me. Thankfully, it never happened again, and our relationship is great. I think feeling betrayed or otherwise upset is a fair response, since it's basically an admission that they don't trust you.
Is this a common occurrence? Adult human beings don't do "psychology tests" on others. Cut off any weirdo asking these bizarre TikTok questions immediately.
The last tiktok in the dark psychology part about the hot and cold technique is an actual manipulation tactic called lovebombing, which is used by abusers in relationships or sometimes even friendships. The abuser is abusive towards the victim, however when they try leaving the relationship or start getting cold they'll start showering them with love and affection in order to keep them which creates an unhealthy definition of love in the victims mind.
As an asexual who laughs way too much and way too easily, can confirm: the only times I've felt sexual attraction is when I've accidently looked at someone while laughing
The fact that calling it ""dark psychology" is basically just a method to make extremely toxic or manipulative shit sound like something "cool". Gotta love it/s
That's a lie, why would anyone need to work harder to make Manupilation sound cool when it already does If we look at the other names for similar things throught history we fund machiavelian traits and the dark triad Those sound even cooler Nah dark psychology is just a cute digestible name they got off of a book that is easy for simple bozos to understand immediately It's not cool, it's special ed
@@guythat779 Jeez?? I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is either a joke or you mean something completely different than that sounds like and that you *don't* think manipulation is actually cool or sounds cool. Because that's honestly disturbing.
@Rubyskies i did say it for funny purposes But it's completely factual that Manupilation sounds cool by default Thr word gaslight spread like fire from obscurity so easily for that reason
The funniest thing about that one woman who was like "here's how you spot a narcissist" is that if she actually bothered to research NPD even a little bit she'd find out it's a traumagenic mental disorder. That people get via repetitive childhood trauma due to a certain dysfunctional/abusive parenting style and it's often comorbid with CPTSD, just like BPD. And not something you can just "tell" somebody has or use in place of ways to describe somebody who's egotistical, arrogant or an asshole. That and it's also hilarious that she's implying all people with NPD are abusive or going to manipulate you. Way to stigmatize an already very demonized mental disorder lol.
@@entrapta.exe_ Ty, I try lol I love learning about various mental disorders and actual psychology/how the mind works. I'm getting sick and tired of people using narcissistic as a synonym for abusive, toxic or power hungry or whatever other negative trait somebody could have since it's stupid and doesn't make sense to me hahah. Most people don't label somebody with BPD as an awful person right off the bat (most of the time, I happen to have it) but in comparison to that and in my experience as well as through a lot of observation, people are often very prone to labelling somebody with NPD as abusive and self-centered just because they have the disorder or have traits of it without any other reason. It infuriates me to no goddamn end lmfao.
The funny thing is, if *you* looked up narcissism, you'd realise it's a seperate thing from NPD. You're making a mistake in assuming "narcissist" *means* NPD, and it doesn't. You're not wrong about what NPD is, but its existence as a personality disorder comes from the much simpler and less serious "narcissism", a preoccupation with one self. The name itself came from Narcissus, a mythical man from a roman poem who would reject women's advances before being cursed by the gods to be in love with his own reflection, hence "narcissist" means someone who is overly obsessed with one self and one's needs, often at the expense of others, just like how you can be "obsessive" and not have OCD, how you can be "depressed" but not have "major depressive disorder". The real irony is, your problem is based on over-applying psychology and DSM-V to assume people are talking about a personality disorder when they're talking about a personality trait, to complain about someone not looking up NPD despite the fact they weren't even talking about it. "You can't use it in place of ways to describe somebody who's egotistical, arrogant or an asshole" yeah, agreed, some people overuse narcissist to describe people they don't like, but "egotistical" is actually a synonym for narcissistic. You CAN in fact, use narcissist to describe somebody who has an obsession or admiration of themselves, like self-absorbed, conceited, etc because that is the literal definition. Not every word that is used in psychology is exclusive to psychology, and assuming some tiktoker who thinks you should trap people with games to see if they're narcissists or have NPD (cause doing either is nonsense and useless) is also someone who would ever do enough research to use narcissist vs NPD properly is a you problem. Clearly they have 0 idea of what they're talking about, you want them to at the very least be more accurate in using terms they don't understand so they have, 0.5 idea of what they're talking about? And I only say this, because this overly educational view also trivialises and changes words, like how "anorexia", a symptom of low/no appetite, became short hand for "anorexia nervosa" a mental disorder where people avoid eating, so that now, anorexia is useless because you have to specify lack of appetite anyway, because people assume it means AN. "here's some advice if you ever feel anxious-" "UMMM I highly doubt you have the necessary qualifications to be giving people advice on how to manage symptoms of Generalised Anxiety Disorder, sweaty 💅"
@@cthulhu8164 Holy shit I feel stupid hahah, thanks for correcting me. This actually clears up a lot and oh man I really wish I looked at that more. Nobody's ever really told me this nor have I seen anything about it so this is very relieving to hear. That is some funny as hell irony on my part and I'll fully admit that you were right in stating that my problem was that I thought NPD means narcissist when upon looking up narcissism and actually researching the things you said you're totally right in that NPD wasn't being talked about, it's not used in the same way and I was wrong for thinking that. You bring up a *lot* of good points I failed to see or think about and it's very nice to have it pointed out, and to reflect on my views about this as well as potentially other things I could be wrong about as a result of learning a bit more. I kind of assumed that since narcissism is a trait of NPD that people weren't using the word correctly and that is so stupid of me to have though for (now) obvious reasons. I'm face-palming at myself hard hah. Once again thank you, and I'm very sorry for not making sense beforehand. I'm very glad to have learned from this. ^^
@@128treehugger I was trying to express my frustrations with people using the word narcissistic/narcissist as a way to negatively describe somebody, and how using it in the way people do when they say something along the lines of "here's how to spot a narcissist" or "here's how to piss a narcissist off" is harmful because it stigmatizes people with NPD which is already a very heavily demonized disorder and in my point of view implied that people are just assuming somebody with NPD was automatically abuisve or going to manipulate people when obviously that's a stupid take, as in you can't just assume that bc somebody has the disorder that they're a bad person. CLEARLY I was wrong, that's not at all what was being talked about and it turns out I was mixing up what the meaning of narcisissm is vs what NPD actually is. Simply put my understanding was flawed and I was swiftly schooled. ":)
The “dark psychology” reminds me of how I was treated in my pre-teen/teen relationships. It’s been 15 years and I’m still working on the trauma and trust issues. Please be good to each other!
i love that so many of these are "dark psychology" facts, like its an entirely separate branch of psychology they teach in universities. just imagine the possibilities of a work of dark academic fields... dark sociology... dark linguistics... dark law.. dark environmental science and sustainable technologies... business management and economics...
here’s a light psychology trick to seem like a good person: 1. Come to terms with yourself and figure yourself out and how you plan on building yourself to become better. 2. Patience is a virtue. Having a lot of patience is key in becoming a kindhearted individual. 3. Be genuinely nice to people, even if they respond with hostility. 4. Know your limits. Understand that you cannot help everyone. You do what you can, not things you can’t.
Wait a minute you're tricking me into fixing myself Nsh i want ways to control ppl Like "take stands even if you dont care so ppl respect that you have a spine" or "give some criticism even if you have none it makes ppl think you're honest and also softens them for when you actually need to be honest"
My cousin is in grad school for psychology, so I sent her this video. She said it helped her ace all of her past and future exams. Thank you, Chad Chad.
real psych fact: if you have a friend that consistently makes you feel worse, they're not worth it. full stop. a responsible person prioritizes their mental health over the temporary amusement of others. i can't even count all the perfectly good friends i've had to cut off since they wouldn't quit lovingly babying toxic people even when they themselves were turning toxic... because they were adamant that wouldn't be very nice. ugh.
That other reply is being a bit overly snarky but yeah, this isn’t really a “psych fact” so much as general life advice. It’s good advice but not much to do with psychology as a field.
"Teaching" people toxic and manipulative behaviour...as someone who's in their third round of therapy, that just brings me so, so, so much joy. Thank you couch psychologists for your service towards a less healthy and validating world for all.
There are countries where therapy is covered by insurance. Like Germany. Everyone has access to therapy w/o having to pay for it. Also, this comment doesn’t say that all people should just get therapy - it’s saying that perpetuation toxic relationship traits is hard to see for folks who have to go to therapy because of toxic relationships. There is absolutely no hate for the lower class…you‘re reaching.
The way people treat narcissists, ppl with BPD, and similar disorders like bombs about to explode is seriously upsetting. Yes, disorders influence people's behavior, which means that it might lead to harmful behavior, but literally everyone has the capacity to harm and manipulate others, just like everyone has the ability to recognize their mistakes and change! There is no Bad Scary Person Forever disorder. Humans are complicated. And sometimes, it's hard for people to do the right thing. That doesn't mean it's impossible.
Thank you. I've been such a horribly toxic person in the past and I'm sure I could get a really stigmatized personality disorder diagnosis if I went to the right psychiatrist. But you know what? I worked my ass off on bettering myself, keep cutting out toxic friendships and am in a relationship with a men that won't take any bullshit. Especially the latter has helped me tremendeously. Unpopular opinion: every abuser needs an abuse victim that is also traumatized or mentally ill to begin with, otherwise they would leave asap and not get stuck in there. Which shows that every single person can better themselves in ways and should have that as one of their personal goals.
@@Shirumoon "Unpopular opinion: every abuser needs an abuse victim that is also traumatized or mentally ill to begin with, otherwise they would leave asap and not get stuck in there." I don't know what you mean by this but it sounds bad.
@@psychicbyinternet I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe they meant abusers find mentally ill people to be easier victims but if that is what they meant it’s very poorly worded
One of the nicest people I know has BPD and it make me so sad that they have to be so secretive about that. They’re a genuinely good person and I wanna support them. Yeah BPD can lead to some bad behaviors but that doesn’t mean people that have it are monsters with no free will. They’re brains are just wired a bit differently that’s all.
as someone with npd im so happy that chad called out the woman in the end misusing "narcissist". im sick of the constant demonization of all of cluster b so seeing content creators being aware of actual narcissism really makes me happy
I'm not gonna debunk all of them (bc i probably won't know all the actual answers) but the one about looking at someone when they laugh is really more in relation to who you're close to than anything. For instance, you're going to look at your siblings first when you laugh bc you wanna see their reaction. If you're closer to friends than family, you'll look at the former first. It's not entirely wrong that maybe someone looks at you first bc they're attracted to you, but more than likely they just feel close enough to you to glance at you. Or something along those lines, it's been a while since I've seen this stated so take it with a grain of salt
I was hoping someone would say this. Maybe it’s purely anecdotal, but I can totally catch myself looking at the person whose approval I value most in a group when a joke is told. But whether it’s true or not, it sure isn’t something to take as seriously as some people think
Just to add to this point, humans use social referencing to evaluate situations and regulate our own emotions so it makes sense we would look at the person we feel closest to/trust the most to get an accurate reading! It is a very real phenomena :)
Im aroace and find what most people do from titkok not attractive at all. + You can't tell you wouldn't be uncomfortable if someone tried to make you fall in love with them bc they dont know how to pull
something about how people think making people with specific illnesses monsters is something that breaks my heart everyday. how do people think that makes a person want to attempt recovery if their told by society what their mind does, they are fundamentally broken an unlovable. shout out to my cluster bs and people with psychotic disorders we deserve better
Cluster B here! Thank you! Seeing everywhere how I'm a ticking time bomb and inherently abusive honestly just makes me want to give up entirely. Whats the point of trying if I'll always be a manipulative bastard?
I'm in the plural community, which is connected to the dissociative identity disorder community, and it's wild learning about how people have actually SCARED their therapist... simply by mentioning they have alters or are plural or whatever. I actually had that with a therapist, who would intentionally avoid talking to me about my plurality. Only when I got a therapist who was experienced in dissociative disorders did I get proper help and respect, but even therapists trained in those disorders can be cold towards anyone they think might be "dangerous" based on stereotypes. There are a lot of people who have BPD and psychosis in the community too. This is all to say, it's horrifying how easy it is for people to throw your personhood aside simply because media, stereotypes, and lack of compassion say you MIGHT be dangerous. When really, we're people who need help and might even be happy with what makes us "strange" but want help with the parts of it that make it a disorder. People really treat mental illnesses like warning signs of how awful a person may be instead of thinking about what trauma they may have gone through to develop that illness. Or for those born with neurodivergent, thinking they'll automatically be a pain in the ass. You can have any kind of mental illness and still be varying levels of a "bad" person.
Most of these people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. It's an attempt by people who've been scorned, hurt, or heartbroken to all but explicitly demonize people with certain conditions as being inherently untrustworthy and evil. If someone is an asshole then they somehow MUST have this incurable, horrible disorder 🙄 which can then justify hatred and fear if them. It's another manifestation of insecurity in this culture that's obsessed with safety, avoiding discomfort, and pushing those who've wronged us down rather than reconciling or not interacting with them.
I'm sorry y'all have to put up with that, it's really sad to see the same patterns be repeated again again with every mental illness that gets the spotlight. Every single time it feels like people have to learn the same things all over again. Hope you're surrounded with love and compassion regardless
For the whole “make somebody fall in love with you, super toxic” the whole “well, it’s good for people to be aware about it”… why not just present it as, “signs that someone is manipulating you into a romantic relationship” and not literally tell people that this is supposed to be a manipulative tool to get others attracted to you? Because uh… maybe that’s terrible advice you should be giving never??
@@Alissa.Fine24 I feel like I’ve seen too much of the whole: “this advice is SUPER toxic and you shouldn’t actually do it, but let me still tell you how to do it anyway!”💀
just got my bachelor's in psych (and plan to continue in the field) and every time someone uses ~psychology~ or ~psychology facts~ to explain something i subtract one second from my doomsday clock. psychology is such a broad field with lots of different perspectives on the "how" and "why" of behavior; try to state something that is seen as "correct" in one interpretation's perspective to a person who is a member of a different interpretation's school of thought and you will start an argument. put a humanistic psychologist and a behaviorist into the same room and watch them fight to the death. also every time ppl use cluster b personality disorders as a synonym for "evil" i subtract TWO seconds. it's ableism, pure and simple. ppl with personality disorders are not somehow a worse human or more likely to be an abuser. correlation and causation and all that. there's still so much stigma surrounding the less "pretty" conditions (personality disorders, schizophrenia, etc), even in (and especially amongst) people *in the field,* which makes those who may have these conditions less likely to seek diagnosis+treatment. this is kinda rambly but my point here is that i hate pop psychology and most of the time all it does is increase misinfo and stigmas.
Thank you thank you thank you! I'm getting real sick and tired of people thinking it's ok to "diagnose" others online. The use of Cluster B disorders as an alternate label to mean "evil" is so ableist and nasty, it makes me hurt inside.
Even as a layman I know that the human psyche is too complicated to fit in a tiktok video. Hell, humans are too complicated for psychological diagnosis. A personality disorder doesn’t mean you’re fated to only behave in the way that keeps you in the box.
"In order to make females love you, you have to use sarcasm because it shows intelligence, a trait females love" that actually made me gag LMAO - these pick up bros talk about us like we're chimpanzees at the zoo and it's so fucking disgusting. Also no, plenty of women actually DON'T like sarcasm cuz a.) it makes you sound like an asshole when you don't know if the person actually likes it, and b.) as a neurodivergent person who struggles to pick up when someone is being serious and have had sarcasm used against me before, all it'll do is confuse me as to why you're not being straightforward. Ofc there are neurodivergent people who probably do like sarcasm, but as it goes with any human being (which these dudebros don't seem to view women as), it depends on the person - there's not catch all tricks like they always imply.
Gosh, maybe you're just not their target female. They have a radar that detects women who love sarcasm and their alpha behaviour (for legal reasons, that's a joke)
Theres a story of a woman whose bf told her she smells..lots of times to the point she get self conscious. She did shower, wear perfumes etc etc but he still said she smells. So finally she confronted him and was like, my friends and family said i smell fine, i shower daily, etc etc and if she smells to him lets just break up. The guy finally confessed his dad told him to do that because if the girl think shes smelly she wont break up with him cuz she wont have confidence to find someone else Guys...DONT do this. This is mental. This isnt dark psychology, its borderline abusive
idk about "borderline" to be honest. i think it pretty soundly qualifies as manipulative at the very best, and as emotional abuse at worst. either way i feel like calling it abusive is appropriate.
I met a person that did these “test” questions, first time meeting her too, made me so uncomfortable and gave me big anxiety being around them, decided to just completely stop answering their questions and then she got mad. Weirdest interaction I’ve had with someone and I believe they were doing these “dark psychology tricks”, some people are strange 😅
@@meowbahhyt My dude, this might be besides the point, but you didn't even pick a good account to piggyback off of, no one cares about Meowbahh anymore
makes me think about irl magic systems and i think they see it similarly. i wouldnt be shocked to see them talking about "mind control" or "deadly curses" by other names sooner or later. it's very stupid.
These dark psychology facts really just validating my distrust and confusion with guys I was with in the past. One in particular was so damaging. I feel dumb but I really fell for the one where they are super sweet and loving and then completely pull away and pretend like ur not there and do it again and again. At a very vulnerable state I fell for this and it was confusing and painful. I grew to hate the guy and eventually cut things off and he still randomly tries to message me claiming he really cares about me. It’s sick. I found myself disgusted with him and feeling like he was so fake but never feeling like I could be sure. Just this overwhelming feeling I could not ignore. Because he didn’t do or say anything directly to make me feel that way it was all in the behavior. He chose it words very carefully so I couldn’t really call him out. When I tried to ask about things it was always. That wasn’t my intention and stuff but I felt like it was. He let it slip once saying he loved “teasing” me by playing with my emotions and easily manipulating me. I always wondered why he smiled so much when I was crying, upset or sad or saying sorry. I wondered why he always wanted me to tell him all the painful things and confide in him but seemed to be taking notes more then trying to help. Why he would laugh and smile the only time I saw a genuine emotion in him. And he smiled again when he said that but it was like almost a scary smile. It made me feel….unsettled and disturbed he said he was just joking after but he wasn’t. It stuck with me and he was good at making me think it was in my head and my own insecurities. I won’t lie he had me in a desperate place for a while. When I started to heal from the trauma I was dealing with I realized something slowly every time I saw him I felt more and more unhappy. I always felt unhappy around him but it was like I became more aware of it because I wasn’t consumed in my own insecurities anymore. I wasn’t blaming myself anymore. Every time I saw him I couldn’t wait to be away from him his energy was so toxic, I found him annoying overbearing and unattractive, I was extremely bored and I wondered what the fuck did I ever see in him? The last time I saw him he couldn’t handle me at all. He started to get nervous just being around me because I wasn’t letting him manipulate me and I wasn’t scared to speak my truth anymore regardless if he liked it, I left like 30 mins into seeing him out of shear boredom and at the time I actually puttied him. I realized how insecure he actually was. And I felt bad for him for a long time after and tried to be friends but he wouldn’t stop trying to play those old games. Always asking me about my life right away to gauge my emotional state and waiting for an opening. It was so gross and really pathetic. I couldn’t believe I once thought I loved him. Dark psychology is real and honestly people use it alot more then u think. People need to make U insecure and keep u down because they are to insecure to be what you deserve. Or to just treat u right. If they can convince you I deserve less u will never realize U deserve better. Never stay where u are unhappy. Never let a person mess with your mental health. Be weary of people who just come around when ur down. We can’t think clearly when we’re in a bad place. We don’t see people for who they really are. Our senses can become dulled by pain, fear, or desperation. And There’s a lot of vultures out there.
As someone who wants to pursue psychology. This video helped me get my degree and made me a registered psychologist. Chad Chad thank you ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ Love your vids!!!
@@meowbahhyt Whatever help someone learns helps them learn? Like im sure you're trying to help them but like if Chad Chad helps them then it just does
It's honestly wild to me that despite the fact that mental health awareness among younger generations is way better than it once was but people with Cluster B personality disorders like NPD are still treated like some creepy monsters lurking in the shadows just waiting for the opportunity to manipulate you like bruh...they're just people with a specific disorder.
Yeah, but it's a disorder that can really fuck up the people around them too. It may not be their fault, but it's no surprise people are cautious about them and might want to keep their distance.
If a friend told me they travelled around the world in a private jet, I'd likely smile because that'd be a fun thing to talk about. I'd like to hear the cool stories of what they've seen on their travels. I didn't know I was a exploitative parasite, but I guess those mad scientists over on TikTok understand me better than I do myself! :V
I would have smiled and asked follow-up questions just to be polite. I mean, if they brought it up that forcefully they obviously want to talk about it. 😅
exactly... even if you wanted to ride in the jet, that would be a normal thing if you are actually friends with the person, like damn even if you are newly friends, you could still smile at something cool and not presume anything. If you are close friends it wouldn't be crazy to assume you'd fly with them at one point but I'm assuming they'd know their family was broke at that point haha
As someone with NPD, hearing people talk about "how to tell if someone is a narcissist" makes me so uncomfortable. Narcs aren't like inherently evil, we're just kinda high maintenance?? We don't just see people as tools good lord :/
As a psychologist, I dislike these “little things” that mean someone likes you because healthy communication should be at the forefront of trying to see if someone likes you back.
The "I wanna tell you something... Oh nevermind" has occurred to me many times. It was so funny cuz I always respond with "Okay not a problem" or lately, just absolutely ignoreeee the existence of that text. Drives the other person crazy.
7:59 Well, anyone who dealt with actual people like that will just get sick of your shit. And making someone think you're depressed doesn't make them see you as a potential partner. Sure, most will empathize, because most people want to help those who are struggling, but it's not a way to get into their pants. And even then - do you want that kind of attention? People've mistaken my attitude for a lack of self-worth in the past and I can tell you - IT'S SO ANNOYING.
THANK YOU for mentioning how weird and nonsensical the "how to spot a narcissist" content is. As someone who suffered from verbal abuse my whole childhood it's weird and borderline offensive to see people take things I've experienced, label them as "narcissistic abuse", and use it to attack random people with NPD who are just trying to exist. Literally the only difference anyone has been able to give me between narc and verbal abuse is "narc abuse is more serious" which is, again, literally insulting to verbal abuse victims. NPD is suspected to result from abusive, emotionally neglectful, or extremely inconsistent parenting, people who have it aren't evil for coping with stress in that way. The discrimination that people with NPD face on a daily basis is ridiculous and tiktok has been a huge catalyst for it.
AS SOMEONE WITH NPD IM SO HAPPY READING YOUR COMMENT. i uninstalled tiktok because as soon as i watched a good TikTok about NPD, it started throwing everything with the word narcissist at my fyp and... that tanked my mental health. and yes usually those with NPD are much more likely to be the victims than the abusers. especially since the 2nd most comorbid thing with NPD is DPD (dependent personality disorder) which can easily make you more attached to abusers and those who take advantage of you.
oh thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting this comment- i saw the thumbnail and my anxiety started tearing me apart fearing that chadchad would start saying something ableist about NPD :( forced myself to click anyways so i could skim the comments to see anything along these lines, not sure what i would have done if you hadnt commented. i agree wholeheartedly- its so fucked up how people take a vulnerable mental illness and label it as the "evil person" disorder, even worse how its a disorder thought to be a result of abuse. i dont have npd myself but im a victim of abuse with my own cocktail of mental health struggles, and i feel horrible for everyone with npd whos had to deal with all of this.
Op I think you're wonderful for saying this. This horrible trend of immediately labeling toxic people as "narcissists" is just another case of equating mental illness or personality disorders as evil. A diagnosis does not make a person evil. Doing evil acts is what makes a person evil. I'm tired of people acting like the presence one must imply, or prove the other to be true.
I had to study NPD as a major part of my thesis. I'll tell you now, in trying to understand the disorder, you have swung too far the other way. Sure, they're not all vicious monsters, but they weren't diagnosed because of their own suffering, either. It's a personality disorder based on a lack of empathy, and by definition, they don't think of that as a bad thing. Who exactly are you trying to help here?
tbf, people with NPD who don't get therapy for it will absolutely end up abusing people. And most won't be able to accept that they have it or need therapy. I've had more than one person with NPD absolutely fuck my life up because I didn't play their stupid games.
people who say "women are not funny." Should really watch my girl, she is downright hilarious. I really love your content and sense of humor Chad Chad. It always lightens up my mood, thank you so much for these videos!
I’m pretty sure the laughing thing is a real thing but they’ve said it completely wrong. It’s that when you’re in a group, people tend to look at the person they like to check if they are also laughing. It’s not necessarily someone you like romantically, it’s just someone you feel close to.
oh I love I found this page today! My seventh video and I haven’t stopped laughing. Also, I quit social media a decade ago, so you’re officially my social media news anchor.
