Termignoni DESTROYS Stock exhaust on Ducati Supersport 939 

Did you have to do any tuning or an ecu remap? Also did you install it yourself? -Thanks

Did you need to remap ecu or do u feel like the bike needs it? About to order this exhaust Termignoni has a upmap tool available was just wondering before I spent $300 on this upmap tool. Thx

My guess is that's without any electronic map adjustments. I'm sure stock restrictions could yield a good bit more. Probably Brentuning would offer some high quality maps.

Lifted_Above thanks for the reply been running the bike with dB killer in and bike seems to be running fine. Without dB killer bike runs a little rough. I’ll look into the brentuning or the Termignoni tuner later.

@@mechcam796 Yeah there's not enough flow restriction without the DB insert to create smooth idle. Brentune talks about that on some of the modification pages.

Thank you! Unfortunately a video can’t really show the true sound difference - my microphone probably isn’t good enough and one has to also listen with proper headphones or speakers because it’s the deep bass tones that make the majority of the difference between that Termi and stock.

Yes. The beginning is to show the look, how the exhausts look from different angles.

Thanks for watching! And remember, this was all recorded with a phone. This thing sounds loud and deep in reality, the recordings do no justice.

Thank you!

How do you like it ?

I love it

Glossy black twin stubby tipped ones from Akra?? Never heard of this, can you provide a link? The heavy stock catalytic converter had two exhaust tips which I painted glossy black, but I never saw anything from Akra like that.

Thanks!

Hotter or colder with akra?

Check out my other video where I show the mirror install and new front NRC turn signals. The mirrors are 2” CRG Blindsight mirrors. They take getting used to since they are so small. I left the stock mirror holes, doesn’t look so bad and better than the ugly black squares from NRC, even after I painted them red. You’ll need to get a bar end mirror adapter for the throttle side. I used a shop lathe to modify one to keep the stock bar end weight but that’s complicated.

Debenham Dave my garage is similar to yours. I’ve got a 2010 696 with an Akra full system that I love (but feels a bit slow now, haha), and my Supersport. I left in the baffle when I installed my Termi, but have purchased a power commander 5 to go with it. I have noticed no change in fuel economy and little difference in butt horsepower. Will report back once the power commander is installed. 4 hp might not be that noticeable but I did notice the weight savings of the Termi slip on over the stock system. The Healtech servo eliminator was a life saver too. Ducati knocked it out of the park with the Supersport.

Patricia Richardson Just Googled this, looks like 3 bikes in the whole world had this issue so far, but to be safe Ducati will start a recall to move the overflow hose in August 2018. What I read stated it was the fuel overflow, not the fuel line. I'm not worried about it, since it's a fraction of a tiny percentage of all the bikes sold. But I'll have the dealer do the recall once I get the letter.

Thank you 🙏🏼 and yes

@@ilmostro16 did you up map your bike with the new exhaust ??? im planning to do the same . can i just install and keep same oem mapping . i am not planning to remove the db killer .. thank you

I actually like the look of the Termi system, prefer it to the Akra full system with the twin pipes below the seat too. Agree on the fairing, and was really pleased the new 950 has adjusted the fairing on the belly. Looks more natural than the void on the 939.

Jetting? That’s like old school carburetor stuff haha. Nah there’s nothing that needs doing besides a servo buddy to plug the flapper servo harness into to prevent error codes/lights on the dash. The removal of the catalytic converter removes the flapper valve so the computer will think something is wrong. The servo buddy sends the signal back to the dash to fool it that the flapper servo is still there. As far as warranty being voided... well technically it can be but should only matter if you have engine problems. If your gas tank sensor gauge needs replacing or the fork seal leaks, that stuff has nothing to do with the exhaust and shouldn’t be affected by the warranty unless your dealer is a dick (my dealer Team MCC is awesome). But if you blow your engine and it’s got an aftermarket exhaust, it’s possible you’d have trouble. This is a very rare situation though so we all take chances.

IL MOSTRO thanks yes I’m 53. Lol

randykawasaki I think you can’t know if the heat in this case is compromising shock performance without testing. There is a heat shield between the shock and header. The header is in the same place. As far as weight goes, it shaved about 13 pounds I think.

I’m sorry I can’t remember where I bought them but I’m pretty sure they are R&G brand so search for R&G rear axle slider Ducati

@@ilmostro16 thanks much will do

sharpthecat Termignoni will be providing an up-map for this exhaust system, just isn’t out yet.

how's the back pressure difference? have you been noticing it taking a fraction of a sec longer to start? Oh and some of us on the forums are really digging the fairing decals you have (thumbs up)

It does not reduce clearance because of the angle on the muffler itself. It has a sort of triangular shape to the tube. Don’t worry, unless you’re dragging elbow on the track you won’t have an issue.

The Termi is “race only”... definitely not euro 4. It removes the catalytic converter completely. Sorry for late response.

Fabio Marotta No, it runs great with the stock map, even better now. But Termi is supposedly working on a new fuel map to be used with this exhaust system and hopefully will release this year sometime. Probably will have an additional cost for that, but the exhaust is so well priced, I don’t mind and will likely update to that map once it’s available. Or I might just wait until my warranty is up first to be safe.

Aha, so 4.5hp and 4 lb-ft on the dyno is without a remap?

dmoooooooo Hard to say with any accuracy. Now I wish I had an infrared temperature gauge gun thing to measure that stuff. It’s possible it’s cooler, but I can’t tell you for sure. To make matters worse, I just added some radiant heat blocking material (adhesive backed) under the seat. I think that might help a little too. Of course, the Supersport doesn’t get nearly as hot in the seat area as the twin cylinder Panigales do.

dmoooooooo Hard to say with any accuracy. Now I wish I had an infrared temperature gauge gun thing to measure that stuff. It’s possible it’s cooler, but I can’t tell you for sure. To make matters worse, I just added some radiant heat blocking material (adhesive backed) under the seat. I think that might help a little too. Of course, the Supersport doesn’t get nearly as hot in the seat area as the twin cylinder Panigales do.

If you don’t ride on the track get SS.

Inline 4 is definitely smoother.

James Butterfield No exhaust will make the twin sound like a MotoGP bike because of the lower maximum RPMs. In other words, we can’t rev our engines high enough to get that sound. I debated very much between the Termi and CW, and ultimately the Termi won for me because of the price and since the Termi can is more unique (fits only the SS) while the CW is the same looking can they sell for all bikes.

IL MOSTRO that termi does sound loud. Louder in person?

Hi, I think they were from Amazon, they are sliver helmet stickers but I put them on the bike. There’s also sellers on eBay that cut these types of stickers which I used recently for the 848.

Thanks i ll check. V

Termi released it around May I think. I’m very happy with it. Don’t look for power gains with an exhaust, that requires a tune. Getting an aftermarket exhaust is for sound and looks. If there are modest gains, it’s a bonus.

IL MOSTRO I got a tune after installing a rapid bike evo. Again not a 1% gain. Needless to say I wasn’t overly impressed. The Akra looks good in my opinion and sounds great, particularly with no baffles in. The fact that it makes makes you lose 10kg of sweat on a warm day isn't so practical, also you need to remove one side to get in and adjust the rear preload if carrying a pillion, not that I can as I have no rear pegs ha! So I'm a little jealous. Ducati recalled this bike to install a modified heat shield over the rear header when it was first released, they realized the revised shield did not fit for the akra. As a result to this day people with the Sax rear shock and akra exhaust are having their rear bump stop MELT! I'm assuming you have the beefy shield still with the yellow insulation behind a black shell? Lucky for me I have the Ohlins so no melting yet but the rear shock gets so hot you can't touch it just after letting the bike idle for a few moments. It's a bit of a troubled area but otherwise a damn comfy 'sports' bike.

The twin tips are there, look at 9:04, they are still on the cat. 20 lbs total for the stock system.

Ok I see them now! I was looking at the paper towel lol. Thanks for the fast update! I'm looking at purchasing one of these beauties. Ive had the VFR vtech and Im very curious as to the comfort of this bike!

Servo eliminator yes, I got a Servo Buddy from SkutrNet. Air filter I’m running stock.

IL MOSTRO Thanks for speedy reply, UK based company who I’m likely to buy from have the Servo as optional extra , cheers 👍

Its one of the free use RU-vid songs called Lullaby

Benny JCW797 Congrats on the new Monster. Best way to meet the group is to come out to one of our Tuesday meets. Info is posted on the Facebook page. Also visit the club website www.drill-online.com. To ride with us you do need to wear appropriate safety gear (no squids) 😉

Absolutely! I'm having MCC drop it off later this week due to service. Don't worry no squids over this way hahahaha. Still trying to find a good Dainese jacket currently. I for sure want to meet the group nonetheless. I won't be able to make it out unfortunately until close to the end of the month. I will do my best to get on a ride with you guys before the season is over! Also if ABCC is having a track day, I'll make it out there also due to me living no more than 15 min away from it.

New Rage Cycle (NRC). Thanks for watching 👍👍

Originally I had the NRC block offs and I painted them with Ducati red spray can. But then I just removed them entirely and left the holes which to me looked better than the NRC block offs. (New Rage Cycles)

@@ilmostro16 I agree

It’s just some random free music I found on RU-vid’s creator music page.

@@ilmostro16 thx😉

Not sure, never heard one of those. But do remember this is recorded with an iPhone, not professional sound equipment. In real life it sounds amazing because there’s a deep rumble and bass that most inline 4’s and smaller engines don’t have. That bass and rumble is hard to get across in videos. Also depends on what speakers you’re using to listen to this obviously.

@@ilmostro16 Try using a Sony action cam to record. I have 2 and they have the best audio. Personally I use studio monitors for speaker's. Wish I could hear it in person. My last bike was an 04 VFR 800 with Stantune exhaust. Sounds amazing with that V4. Personally better than a V twin.

It’s to show the viewers the difference from stock. I’m not using the app to give tickets lol. The interesting thing is that at idle there’s almost no change.

@@ilmostro16 In germany they fucked this up They used the app and confiscated (idk how to write it) the bike When they used the real device they said its all okay Just sayin Those apps arent always correct and since then I get more brain damage when watching somebody using it

People don't upgrade their exhaust just for power, the sound is far FAR better, you can't possibly not hear it

Maybe. But the sound is well worth it. The Competition Works exhaust in black ceramic coating looks good as well on this bike.

@@ilmostro16 It's very difficult to do this sort of thing in the UK & EU with EURO 5 bikes, because the stock exhaust will have to be refitted every year to pass the MOT test.

In this case, the specific exhaust won’t change that characteristic. V-twin engines sound deep with a rumble. No matter what exhaust is used. Your FZ-6 is an in-line 4 cylinder engine which has a very different exhaust note, higher pitch, more like an electric motor, while a V-twin will always sound more like a muscle car. Different people prefer different sound, Ducati fans love the deep V-twin bass and rumble. Keep in mind, this Supersport is essentially a Monster under the fairings. It’s using the same engine the Hypermotard uses which is the same as the Monster line uses, just different CC’s. The Panigale V2 uses a completely different engine and while it’s a V-twin, it has a different exhaust character.

IL MOSTRO on one hand you are saying a v-twin will always sound more like a muscle car, but on the other hand a panigale v-twin is different. I really like the super sport, but that exhaust note (stock) is killing me!

What do you have that sounds better. Please educate us Mr Smarty pants.