The "BookTok" Community Is Unbelievably Cringe... 

We both laugh at our sons big balls

Booktok when you recommended a actual romantic book with no abuse and toxic things: 😰😰😰😨😨😨😨😨🤬🤬🤬🤬

@@thErianxOscarreal

@@KimDokja-fs3pe STOP

@@KimDokja-fs3peSAVE ME FROM THE HORRORS

aw HELL NAHHH I AINT TAKING THEM im from wattpad and im not taking them weird ahh people

Bro at this rate, I don't think even Wattpad can match some of the sh*t on BookTok, and that's saying something

Booktok people are just adults that never got over their wattpad phase.

LMFAO BOOKTOKIANS 💀💀💀 right tho! like ill stay over here, with my historical fictions and good omens, those tumblr fanfic fans can have em

@@Nightblade_EditzRIGHT 💀

What is the worst one you read?

@Arrowatyou i only read the back cover of those books, and this was already enough to make me wanna throw up

@@Leafonthefloor Lightlark's fricking blurb. 🤢

At least now you know what to avoid

and they all are written the same

But no one also said that people on TikTok are not so a mix of both but the worse ones are in their own part of TikTok

It's almost as though they're all the exact opposite of mentally stable...

@@benschultz1784we already knew that though

there's literally a mental condition being called Tik Tok brain!

these people are so mentally ill i could never understand what kind of person has tiktok lmfaaaooo

Honestly I think it beats wattpad at the weirdness, but I agree

Wattpad in 2010s have some really good books. No I’m not talking about shitty smut.

Even Wattpad at it's worse doesn't come close to Booktok.

As someone who still reads wattpad sometimes, I want these people at least 100 meters away from me

@@naimithareddy Very true- wattpad can have really great stories in spite of its reputation. And yeah, I'm starting to think Booktok is worse...

Booktokers when they find out Diary of the Wimpy kid doesnt have smut: 😱😭

@@GenderedMessapparently there were people genuinely asking if percy jackson, a book about a 12-year-old boy, had smut in it😐

@@ithoughtiwascishet1316 NAHHH WHAT??

Booktok when the scenes fade to black bc they’re reading YA books: 🫨🫨🫨

@@ithoughtiwascishet1316 WHEN?!?!

I said I really only read high fantasy with little to no romance and got called elitist 😭😭

​​@@addiem4387, I love romance, when it's real and good romance, when you really see that two people care and love for each other and want to protect one another, not all this... sick hell, do people even know what love is anymore? No wonder that we are like we are nowadays

They just reading those cringe plots to a p0rn video 💀

@@addiem4387Because they can’t understand someone that doesn’t care about sex in books (not even romance, that’s mostly just smut), I don’t care much about romance, only when it’s a subplot (tbh most I’ve read are really good romances, better than when it’s the main plot), if it’s the main plot I’ll put it down immediately

@@addiem4387 I read fantasy with romance but no spice because 1 im a minor and 2 THE CHARCTERS ARE MINORS. Plus I just don't like spicy books since they usually just aren't written well because the author is too focused on being horny

A WHAT scene??? Please go outside weirdos

​@@hajxtyNO THEY NEED TO BE IN A PSYCH WARD GETTING HELP

If we just…banned all people from booktok from reading any dark romance bc they’re only reading it to get their rocks off…the population would be so much smarter.

😐👉Mental hospital

@@hajxtyDon’t let them outside! For the safety of women everywhere.

I’m telling you, most of them HAVE TO BE I mean think about the top booktok books, like half of them were fanfics that just had the names changed

A lot WERE fanfics, they just change the names and a few specifics and look! New story!

I know right. Wattpad specifically.

My question is, how do you get published in the first place because publishers don’t just let anybody make a book unless I guess now because you’re a woman just need send your book publishers, and it gets published

i feel that that is a possibility. I mean most ppl like fanfics and some even think they are better written then actual books, so maybe the publishers and even some ppl feel that having a more fanfic-ish story is what would get ppl to like it after just changing the names and such.

Yeah, im from the different part too thank god 😅

These booktok people are just online Wattpad readers man😭

I’m come across some not great recommendations from booktok. At least the stuff that isn’t for me from what I’ve heard. I’ve seen Colleen Hoover books and things similar to those books recommended. From what I’ve heard about her books it’s not for me. A lot of the writing is too cringe for me to read at this age. I probably read stuff with similar cringe writing when I was a teen. I’m not judging too much if ppl enjoy the books bc the concepts are interesting but my main issue is when they think some of the romances are good romances. I feel bad that they don’t realize how toxic it really is. Luckily I never saw any videos that recommended Haunting Adeline. From what I’ve heard abt that book it’s taking a situation that really shouldn’t be a romance and is making it one. For the most part I’m on the more chill side of booktok

Yeah me too. I hate how all readers on tiktok get boxed in with these people that romantisize abuse and stalking. I just wanna read my fantasy books in peace 😭

No because tell me why me and my friend just created a book account on TikTok simply for fun and we keep on getting these videos?? me and my friend are still in high school, we don't want that shit.

Seriously, there are a limited number of slots publishers have available per year. Every shitty book means a good book didn't get through the gates and we'll never read it. Booktok is actively ruining my life because they're horny.

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger 😂😂

I really wish I could publish a story one day, but at this point, it doesn't matter how bad the writing is, the 'tropes' and 'romance' and 'smut' are the only things that do

Reminds me of that drama were someone pretended to ne dead to get more sales

That’s what I’m saying!

Fr fr. And the thing is, I've seen a lot of actually good quality ones. They're better than booktok

Fr

Just like how Only Fans convinced men to pay for p*rn they could otherwise find for free online, the marketing teams behind Booktok finally figured out a way to make people pay for smutty fanfiction, it’s not a coincidence that they use fanfiction tags and tropes in marketing and know that their reader base is similar to a fanfiction reader who reads nearly identical stories just to indulge over and over again in their favourite ship dynamics and story tropes, hence the low effort similarity of all these books. They’re no doubt aware smut is the biggest thing people read fanfiction for, which is why booktok novel recommendation lists bear an uncanny resemblance to search results on Ao3 with the filter set to only stories with an Explicit rating. Don’t get me wrong, I love fanfiction and some fanfiction can be extraordinarily high quality, but a lot of it is just cringe you can tell someone wrote impulsively while they were horny. I’ve noticed the style of comments people always leave on those horny fanfictions is identical to the rabid booktok content people make, particularly the singleminded fixation on smut details and collectively fantasising about it in the most shameless ways 🥲

If I knew people paid for badly written fanfic I would've started selling books sooner.

And it's especially concerning when you realize a) the people doing the romanticizing are in their late teens/early twenties and b) those are the kind of people young teenagers will watch and form opinions from. If their favorite TikToker says a book with grape scenes and a serial unaliver is romantic, they won't question it much

​@@amandapanda5087well they don't have to have someone telling them it's romantic. People got those kinds of things from Creepypastas before. These sound like a one up from those

​@@vanovasmith9586you know it's gonna be some wild shit when booktok makes creepypasta romance and wattpad romance look somewhat tame in comparisment

Hell nah 😭😭😭

what a horrible day to be literate

Why does that sound like haunting Adeline 😭🙏

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger 😂😂

​@@ville__ Would you shut the hell up? There is absolutely no proof that she is and you're just trying to start sh!t.

Good question. Are they lonely weirdos? Are they unsatisfied with their good, healthy relationship? I was hit on my some creepy dude who liked to read romance novels. When he asked if I liked to read, I said NO... and then he started talking down to me like I was stupid... and then he tried hitting on me again. 😤😮‍💨 He probably got his relationship goals from these dumb books. 🤢

Yeah, I know I just don’t like when people say, booktok is just 🌽 like first there’s non-spicy books on booktok second I get there’s some bad books like icebreaker and haunted Adaline, the book can be spicy and have a good plot

Ever heard about "Fantasm"? Just because a woman finds such an idea enticing privately (kink), does not mean she would actually WANT to live in such an abusive relationship.

@@tywinlannister8015the issue is the younger people in these communities who don’t have that separation between reality and fiction.

That’s so dangerous. If ppl see that ppl like it in a fictional setting then it’s more likely that more ppl will try to recreate it. That will cause so many ppl to be in danger. I can understand liking something only with fictional characters and not with someone irl but they need to specify that

@@maem7462 Do you need to specify on a pair of scissors "Don't stab with this"?

@@tywinlannister8015 Usually not but there could be situations where it’s needed. We do sometimes need to specify to the kids not to run with scissors. The specifying is more for the children who don’t know any better when they see booktok discussing toxic relationships. If we specify that it’s only good in book form or that it’s not what a relationship should be irl then that can help keep the young and impressionable kids from staying in a toxic relationship. Similar to why we warn them not to run with scissors it’s so they can lessen the chances of getting hurt. It could also normalize the relationship to an adult who is in that situation and didn’t realize that they didn’t help and maybe the book makes them stay. I’m not saying to always make your content kid friendly. With how TikTok works almost anyone has a possibility of seeing your videos. It’s good to specify something whether it’s you only like that in a book or it’s not romance that should be replicated irl. There are some things that you would think would be obvious but you never know who might be in a situation like that and then stay bc it becomes normalized bc of the book and how booktok reacts to it

Abuse should only be a part of a characters backstory, but it isn’t needed in any way. As long as it helps the characters grow I’m fine with it, if it’s just there to be edgy and cute then I HATE it!.

@@Munchkit exactly. Abusive relationships are not cute, they’re not attractive or romantic, they’re manipulative and disgusting. I find that older men often get with younger women and it’s gross in those books. I don’t read them, but I see them everywhere,

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

i hate when authors include rape/abusive scenes with the love interests in romance novels. like unless it adds something to the story (which i dont know what aside from a restraining order), dont include it. if the story still makes sense without it, its useless. i also prefer reading and writing fantasy so i dont understand this mindset, but still.

​@@MunchkitAbuse as backstory? Do you also want to add dead parents?

It’s concerning how crazy that they are doing. Like can’t wait for some wild and twisted story where the rape scene from deliverance is seen as romantic and part of some horrible 365 days thing completely unironically like it’s disturbing

The only difference is the medium 😭

😂

I have picked up library books unknowingly only to find they're highly pornographic. I returned them with a note for the librarian tucked inside, I don't know if they'll reshelve them but ffr we have adult bookstores for a reason. If you want porn go there. The public library is supposed to be a curated collection so I don't have to waste time sorting out the crap and filth.

@@user-rc2yf8kt7i I apologize that that has happened. Librarians should understand the importance of correct categorizing when it comes to books like this. Especially cause the covers can be very misleading.

I've worked as a library assistant for 8 years, and believe me, some of the books I've seen and read have been QUITE misleading. Now, I'm not one to encourage censorship or book banning. If I've read the book before, what I normally do is tell the customers that this book has X, Y and Z in it, so they'll know what to expect. My biggest gripe with some (not all) of BookTok is not the stories. It's HOW the stories are presented.

@@LissaChelle9002agreed. It’s insane

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

except for the whole spike buffy relationship on buffy. spike did technically want to kill the slayer when he first came to sunnydale in season 2 since he is a vampire.

This!! I’m a big fan of real enemies to lovers and I hate that people assume I’m one of the TikTok readers when I say so. I’m not at all. These aren’t book examples, just first ones that come to mind, but I’d take a million Zutaras or Swanqueens before the weird crap in these TikTok books.

why not for people that want to kill each other? mortal enemies with countless past battles suddenly finding themselves on the same side and realizing that they actually have a lot of common ground and that there's so much more to the one they'd hated for so long is such a vibe.

@@callmecharlie4250 that’s more like warring factions, but the individuals themselves have chemistry. It heavily relies on the two not knowing each other as people, but as the faction they’re aligned with. So the romance is in “there’s more to you than the public face of your faction” But had these two fought face-to-face in battles and actively tried to kill each other numerous times… then why tf would they trust each other beyond an alliance of necessity at best?

Ugh I'm in a bookclub and like half the members are young girls who are chronically online and they were talking about how sexy cutting and carving and knives are in books and I said 'y'all need therapy' and they began berating me for kink shaming 💀

@@ChaoticArtCat ??? you do understand someone can like something in a book and not real life right? im okay with murdering and manipulating in books (preferable fantasy or anything but romance), but that doesnt mean i condone it or dont think its reprehensible in real life. i used to be unable to differentiate between fictional interets and irl interests as well. thats like saying george rr martin supports incest or agatha christie supports murder.

@@ChaoticArtCat umm you need help, weirdo

That genuinely sounds like something from a morally questionable adult film 😳

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the fact that they’re calling sh*t like this “romance” is making me feel REALLY pessimistic right now…😰

this is actually quite tame compared to the other stuff on booktok unless it was actually some unconsensual garbage (I'm not defending it, just pointing out how messed up it is if THAT is tame)

​@@JamesLawneryea it's so disturbing

i wish they would just let people use the actual words because i lose my mind every time someone says “seggs”

I’ve never liked the sex scenes either, especially the hardcore type. That goes for books and movies alike. It’s so much easier to imply it was done or just to not include it at all. I enjoy the Romance genre, but nothing spicy and definitely nothing like this. It legitimately makes me afraid to ever read another Romance novel ever again, outside of the ones I have already owned for years that I know are safe reads. And far better reads than this poison will ever be

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

@@ville__she is?

@@ville__ she is?!

Y'all, it's a fucking UTTP bot, she literally made a video against Colleen Bollinger months ago -_-

@@unordinarytreefrog yeah, that was why I was confused lol

Adult writers literally create their own spaces constantly to keep kids out and children will literally lie about their ages to sneak in because they are intentionally looking for the adult content. I just find this whole framing of "but kids could read this, it's grooming" to be kind of ridiculous when almost every example of "adult content bad, but what about the kids" circles back to people refusing to actually monitor their kid's online activities and teach them what to stay away from.

@@sativadiva2389 That's also true but these books are available in bookstores and do u think boomer parents are supposed to know that publishers give authors like these platforms?

​@@tanziameherin2696Then boomers, Gen X and Millennials shouldn't get kids.

@@mittag983 thats also true the worls goin to crap anyway

@@tanziameherin2696 like as a parent you are responsible to check what media your child consumes. as sativa said .. for example im leading a big server for some games and only adults are allowed but here and there it always happens that some minor sneaks in because they lied about their ages. its stressfull and not always the fault from us adults. ofc with severs its hard for the parents to control it BUT parents can control what their child is reading / buying.

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger 😂😂

@@ville__ your trolling and comment spam is just boosting this video's reach to the algorithm

✨Hypbristophilia✨

these types of girls are the reason i made Milo😔😔😔 nah jk Milo’s a self insert kinda

I agree. We can handle these topics with nuance but these books seem to be glorifying them

Agreed. These topics can be handled with nuance but not like booktok

​@@noahbossier1131 Exactly. It's disgusting that people are writing about these things and romanticizing them. :(

“other things they would absolutely never want to happen to them in real life” uhh well…wait until you see the shifting community 💀 I’m a shifter myself and normal about it but I’ve definitely seen some shit. Like people wanting the unforgivable curses done to them during s*x. It’s like booktok but cranked up to 100.

I agree. It’s like we need better material

Actively writing the end of a chapter for my own fic while listening to this and seriously what the fuck! I don’t understand how or why this what books are now!

@@Painfuldreamer5813 IKR??? Like, I am my biggest critic, I get that. But I am SO JUDGEMENTAL of my own work and then I SEE THIS SHIT??? LIKE THAT STEP SIBLING BOOK??? LIKE THAT IS AN ENJOYABLE CONVERSATION TO READ??? Here I am, TEARING DOWN my own written conversations as being bad and then I see THAT?? IN A PUBLISHED WORK???? I am flabbergasted. Perplexed. Astonished and horrified.

That's because you use all your creative ability to write with passion, not sex and adrenaline highs.

​@@-leezha-I swear I seen to many incest,step sibling, half sibling or some kind of relative stories everyone be calling them cute or romantic...I just be staring at them with a disgusting face.

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

i thought dark romance was just uh… booktok books🧚‍♀️🧚‍♀️🧚‍♀️

Real

it didn't deserve that abuse

THEIR DELULU ASSES ARE PROBABLY OKAY WITH IT IRL 2 BECAUSE OF THOSE *DAMN* BOOKS💀

they make no sense, they're literally giving these kinds of people ammunition and it's so gross

i think thats called knowing the difference between fiction and reality

@@thedualityofman6362your comment says two things and i hate them both

@@thedualityofman6362ur comment says 2 things, i hate them both🥰🥰🥰

As an AO3 user, I feel the need to say we wouldn't tolerate this. These people should have their own website for writing

As an AO3 writer we don't claim them. They can have their own corner in the universe. Just not on AO3

As an ao3 reader of many years, no thank you. We don’t tolerate any of this and honestly the type of content they like is more likely to be on wattpad than ao3.

As an AO3 user... Ignore all those other AO3 users, everything is allowed on the site as long as it has the appropriate tags so people can filter for or against it when searching. I'm guessing these people have never come across the "Dead Dove: Do Not Eat" tag. Tbf, only reading fluffy coffee shop AUs is perfectly valid if that's all you like.

As someone who is part of both the Wattpad and Ao3 community, I reject it for both communities.

Do you have a certain book genre that you like if not i could just recommend some of my favorite books :)

Animal Farm by George Rowell Good Omens by Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mendel (there are some couples throughout the story, and there’s some focus on relationship dynamics, but it’s not entirely focused on romance. Also, the book can be scary to read now in a post-2020 world) The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger (there’s like one makeout scene in the book, but most of the story is not really about romance) And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie The Martian by Andy Weir Mr. Penumbra’s 24-Hour Bookstore by Robin Sloan Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho

The Kaiju Preservation Society doesn't have romance, Redshirts only has extremely minor subplots with it, none of which involve the POV character, the Wayfarers series has the occasional romance but the focus is on found family community building, and the Book of Tea duology is weird because it sets up a stereotypical Protagonist Girl Meets Mysterious Brooding Boy thing but it doesn't work out, they barely interact in the second book, and whilst there are feelings they don't really go anywhere definite. Those are the examples I can come up with off the top of my head, anyway. If you want to go into tie-ins and franchises, 40k books are pretty romance-free or romance-light in my experience but have their own issues. As far as classics go, Sherlock Holmes has little-to-none, and Lovecraft rarely acknowledged women existed long enough to write about relationships (but again, that's got its own issues.) I recommend short story anthologies (Neil Gaiman's are favourites of mine) because, as long as romance isn't the *theme* of the collection you're bound to find several good stories where it isn't a feature.

thats weird. just ignore the `romance` aisle in bookstores and you should be fine.

What genre if book do you like? Cuz I’ve got tons of fantasy recomendations

no (you can see it back on her finger in a later shot) but its a funny scene to think about

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

​@@ville__She literally made a vid on how she dislikes colleen Ballinger, multiple actually,stop spreading rumours 😐😐😐

Agreed.

its a tuesday afternoon for me!!!

She was probably demonstrating. If she swallowed it, she would get sick and vomit it up.

That ls what I’m trying to figure out it looks like she swallow it but there ain’t no way

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

@@ville__ no shes not? She hates her

Omfg WHY IS VILLE_ HERE TOO

@@noranizaazmi6523 huh?

It's grown adults producing their own completely fictional and entirely harmless f*tish content, it's not that serious or deep bro

For a moment there I thought you meant Hayley XD

i know!!! i didn't know anything about it but i picked up the book at my school library (which...come to think of it is pretty weird) and couldn't even get halfway through because of how horrifically creepy Joe is. i was disturbed

HELP MINE SAID “stop doing whatever you are doing right now, and look at me!” REAL

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

LMAOOO

Considering this has happened it is disturbing. This is like romanticizing a school shooter or a fascist

Imo, it's weird you can't imagine people liking that stuff. People can have some fucked up kinks, and let's face it, these books are basically just porn. And even without the kink bit, some people like reading angst. Where horrible shit happens to good characters, and may or may not be resolved into a happy ending by the end of the book.

@@MsLilly200makes sense

@@MsLilly200 I do enjoy angst but at WHAT POINT IN LIFE have you ever considered having a-- measuring contest? like no bye please leave me alone... get away from me... I prefer it when the characters have to go through hardship and trial and error... THATS angst that I personally love

​@@MsLilly200But comparing dingalings with a corpse???? 😂

SAME-

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

@@ville__ bye no shes not 💀

@@ville__ bro what💀

@@invaderzim6207CARDCAPTOR SAKURA PFP

i cant even read that anymore

I hate going to Barnes and Noble and seeing the Booktok table. I feel ashamed to be a reader at all with these people on TikTok

@@amandapanda5087 same here ;-; i just run past it

Crazy how Hayley is friends with Colleen ballinger

I don’t have TikTok either but I’ve seen a couple shorts on RU-vid shorts and it’s so bizarre 💀 it’s disgusting and weird

Nah omg same it was scary bro. Shit was like 22 inches 💀

@@anthem91b LMAO FR

​@@anthem91bNOPE.

I don’t know.

im scared to know if she did or didn’t

Exactly

Gee, the amount of puritanism in this comment section. It is fiction. Incest is disgusting. But have you ever heard of the phrase "It is so wrong it's right"? The whole concept of fantasm seems lost here.

Right but like he’s so creepy about her too…I read the book with my friend bc we hated ourselves and my god

But did Haley actually swallow it’!?

I see parents at Walmart buying their kids books specifically usually teen girls and they have cute book covers and I’m pretty sure these parents don’t realize that there’s pornographic scenes in these books that 10 years ago would not have been something they would buy their kids or unknowingly major retail grocery store would carry

@@ElinWinblad fr, my friend was reading a book where a kid got hard