The POWER OF POETRY And The BEAUTY OF RHYME | John Milton's Poetry - HC Vol. 4 Ep16

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John Milton is most famous for his epic poem "Paradise Lost" but he is also well known for his prose and other poetry that he wrote throughout his life. Sometimes involved in controvery and other times secluded in a hamlet composing verse and rhyme Milton would become one of the greatest writers in English history. He lived in the age of Shakespeare and Francis Bacon and these poetic and chaotic times would provide Milton with the energy and perspective needed to change the course of history in terms of English writing. I hope you enjoy these poems of Milton that were selected to be in the Harvard Classics.
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@w1zzk1dd Месяц назад

7:54 I'm 22 and Milton's feeling at 23 is so relatable, it's literally an overwhelming feeling

@pattidunkin870 4 месяца назад

I have been teaching poetry for more than forty years. I do appreciate your enthusiasm, skill, and joy in understanding and sharing.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Well I truly appreciate the kind words. I am most definitely green when it comes to poetry. Milton has allowed me appreciate poetry in a complete new light. I kind of feel I have missed out on a great form of writing and taken it for granted. Truly appreciate you watching and stay blessed my friend! Just curious, what is your favorite poem or poet?

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

We are moving into poetry for the first time in the Harvard Classics series. We have some epic poems coming up so I hope you are ready! Enjoy and thanks so much for tuning in! I adore every one of you classical book lovers!

@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee 4 месяца назад

Paradise lost is going to require copious amounts of coffee!! Go into the reading accordingly and prepared!

@CheapSeats 4 месяца назад

Edwin Muir has a collection of poetry titled “One Foot in Eden” you may enjoy.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

I will most definitely check it out! Thanks for recommending my friend!

@mrsjeffries7714 Месяц назад

Woe, what a ride. A Ghost Ship washed up on a Florida beach last week Thankfully, the occupants were safely rescued from hurricane Alberto but sadly had to abandon their vessel in the process. Authorities were able to reconnect the 😅 "Happy Flotsam" with its owner. No pirates there.

@mrsjeffries7714 Месяц назад

Last five lines from Milton p. 12 found on top of page 13: wait... the old Apollo's voice comes from a female snake at delphos and his breath smells of rot ?!? Woe, I did not know that. Seems fairly reasonable 😅 then for Socrates to be recognized as the wisest from the snake's breath, that's definitely an insult. A joke. (haha, just kidding) Ooph, what a stink. If snakes smell with their tongue, I almost feel sorry for the creature. God must have been really mad that day. If something like that happened to my science project I would not have been that nice. No doubt about it. In my universe, there would be no snakes anywhere ever. Flip side: gods of the Nile page 14: ****, a Falcon and a dead dog. 🤔 I did not know that. Eventually some poor devil named Osiris who couldn't do anything useful in the upper world atleast managed to kick the dead dog out of the way and set himself up as boss in the underworld. Better late than never.

@RobPirieCedarOtaCoffee 4 месяца назад

Poetry, Coffee, Classics… I mean what more is there in life?!? Keep slinging the vids my long lost soul!

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Will do neighbor!

@insearchofwonder 4 месяца назад

My son is reading Paradise Lost for his freshman literature class, and I had made a goal to read all his literature this year with him (except the ones I've already read). So thank you for this introduction to Milton's poetry. I've been wanting to read Paradise Lost for a really long time, so I'm glad I'm finally being prodded to pick it up!

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

That’s awesome that they are reading it as Freshmen. I know we did not touch anything close to Milton as a Freshman. I have been looking forward to it as well. It is referenced so much in other books I have read that I feel it is a cornerstone book that needs to be read. I am anxious to hear your thoughts on it once you complete it. Should be a good read. Truly appreciate you tuning in and stay blessed!

@opensourcepm 4 месяца назад

I love this series. I am reading my way through the HC, and I am on Paradise Lost now. You have inspired me. I found your first video in December, and I have been making my way through it since. Please keep it going.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Nice! Love hearing that others are reading through this set. What has been the most impactful book for you and how are you liking Paradise Lost?

@Kvell55 4 месяца назад

I’ve never read Milton. This is a great introduction to his work. Thank you for sharing.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

No problem at all! Glad you enjoyed it. Highly recommend reading through a few of Milton’s poems. Thanks for watching and stay blessed!

@physicsbutawesome 4 месяца назад

I must agree that normally I'm not all that excited about poetry, but this was a nice change of pace. Also, I finally caught up to your most recent video, so I no longer have a backlog and can watch stuff as soon as it's out. Great.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Nice! I didn’t realize how long scripting, shooting and editing videos was going to take me when I started this series. I was hoping to proceed a little quicker. But such is life, have you started Paradise Lost yet?

@hephaestusfortarier249 4 месяца назад

Paradise lost is a good one, Adam Walker on RU-vid has some free lecture videos since he did a series on paradise lost recently. Of course you have Homer, Dante, Shakespeare, and the Roman poets Virgil and Ovid. When I read the first page of Metamorphosis by Ovid I was hooked. Would highly recommend it. For me personally it’s my second greatest book of all time, the first being Moby Dick. Ovid is a classic who inspired the other poets like Dante, Chaucer, Shakespeare etc. Also for the theology side would recommend John Newtons-Olney Hymns, it’s free online. Some beautiful biblical poetry with spiritual wisdom and encouragement for the believer. Great video, and God bless

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

I am really looking forward to Paradise Lost. I have not heard of Ovid sadly so I will put him down as n my list to look up. I found Adam’s channel a week or so back. I am going to have to check his series out after I finish reading it and compare. Truly appreciate you watching my friend and stay blessed as well!

@siegfriedderheld7806 4 месяца назад

Rob, Paradise Lost had been on my TBR list since my early 20s. I just finished it last week just in time for my 70th BD! (I set a goal of a book a day-there are 12 books- but on some days I read several books as I got caught up in the beauty and profundity of Milton’s verse). The best advice I can give is READ IT OUT LOUD. If Homer makes us hearers of the word and Virgil makes us readers of the word-then Milton makes us speakers of the word! I also recommend making sure to get access to an annotated edition. I did very well with the Biblical and Aeneid references, but there were so many references to other classical mythological stories and characters that I would have missed without annotations. Something else that’s fascinating about PL is its unorthodox theological concepts. For example, Milton’s Arianism theology is heavily present in the relation of The Father and The Son. Also, Adam and Eve are having sex BEFORE the fall! After the Fall, lust and shame are introduced. I’d describe Milton’s as a non-conforming Non-Conformist! Anyhow, Rob, thanks SO MUCH for these outstanding videos! I look forward to your upcoming journeys through the classics! Mike

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Well you have me itching to crack it open. Working on the last video for the poems and hopefully starting to read Paradise Lost towards the end of the week. Thanks for your insight on the annotations as I may pick one up before I start reading. I have not read Aeneid yet so I may struggle with any reference to that book. Are you reading through the entire series as well or just ones you find interesting? Thanks so much for watching and stay blessed my friend!

@siegfriedderheld7806 4 месяца назад

Rob, I read through it and struggled with the first two books (chapters) as Milton’s prosody and syntax seemed very strange (that’s why I recommend reading it out loud). That said, I’d describe the first 5 books as Satan’s Story. His character is so deeply developed, then Adam’s character is developed. The last fully developed character is Eve. The Fall itself (Books 8 and 9) and the consequences for Adam and Eve are visceral-not cardboard Sunday School cutouts. I buddy read The Aeneid over a month with a book tube friend. We’re beginning The Brothers Karamazov next week. For my men’s book club, I just finished CS Lewis’s Overcome by Joy (true fully not my favorite read.). If you’re ever interested in buddy reading from the classics, let me know. You can choose, we’ll set up a Zoom, have some coffee, and discuss. God’s peace be with you Rob. I greatly appreciate your channel. Mike

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the heads up on Paradise Lost. Good info to go into the reading with. I would love to do a book club on these classics as I go through these books. I know I would get a lot more out of them. I am hoping to adjust some things this year where I can prioritize time for that. I really need to get my time in order. Hopefully that happens soon and I will most definitely reach out! Thanks so much for the info!

@bonniebrown1566 4 месяца назад

Dryden’s Aeneid lit my fire! I didn’t care much for poetry until I read that. A whole new world opened up to me, and I now LOVE poetry. You are exactly right about the need to “digest it”. I think that’s why most people won’t read the poetry classics. It takes time. You really do have to slow yourself down. A hard thing for our impatient generation!

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Yes indeed! Listening to books on 1.5x and skimming work emails has trained me to just churn through things quickly. Slowing down was needed for me to understand it more completely. I am really looking forward to reading Aeneid. It’s one of those books I have heard so much about but know nothing of. It’s a few volumes away in the Harvard Classics but we will get there soon. Thanks so much for watching and stay blessed.

@OrionSoundDesign 4 месяца назад

Always nice to see a new post, also I did end up picking up a bag of the Papua New Guinea and I would definitely say it is an incredible roast, I will definitely be trying the other roasts as well after that and would highly suggest anybody interested good coffee to give Cedar Ota to give it a try. I recently read through both Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained on my current binge through the epics of history, and am now on The Aeneid(I get that's sort of out of historical order but I was pretty excited to read Paradise Lost). Paradise definitely was a bit difficult as a casual reader. There is an incredible proficiency on Milton's part and sometimes it did go over my head with the density of the verse at times. However, and I do hope that others that are just reading them for the first time can appreciate this on some level as well, this gave me a strong incentive to return to the poems after I have read more poetry and see them differently because Milton clearly was taking inspiration from many places in prose and poetry, and it would take a lifetime long as his to find every one of them. A lot of the beauty of these works that have stood the test of time is that they aren't going anywhere and it gives us some breathing room to really enjoy them throughout different points in our lives and see them differently as we change and grow. Even as somebody with no strong religious ties the poetry of both really did just bring me in and it truly speaks to his quality as a writer, he clearly had amazing control over his choice in words and the structure of language. I am excited to hear the thoughts of anybody who is coming up to or has previously gone through Milton either in the classics or just isolated like I did.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Man I appreciate you trying coffee! Are you the one that’s located around Baton Rouge? Also, I am chomping at the bits to read Paradise Lost. I have finished all the poetry before so I have to finish the videos and then I am going to start reading it. Really want to take my time and digest as much as possible. I may even listen to it afterwards to hear a more professional flow. Thanks so much for watching my friend and stay blessed!

@OrionSoundDesign 4 месяца назад

@@The_Cause Yes I am, I went to the shop that you said stocked your coffee and they were just really nice, I can't specifically remember who I talked to but I got into a nice chat with one of the baristas there, definitely am going to stop by there when I'm in that side of town again. Listening to read it sounds like a great idea, I might do that myself just so I can have a bit more of the cadence down and it also is just a good chance to pick up on some finer details now that I understand more of the movement and style of the work. I'm here to stay and look forward to hearing your thoughts on the work when that video comes!

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

That’s great to hear! Ya if the narrator is good it can be enjoyable. Truly appreciate the feed back!

@digitaldaemon74 4 месяца назад

Johnny M. rocks!

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

He does indeed! The more I read his works the more I appreciate his contributions. Thanks for watching!

@klosnj11 4 месяца назад

I do so love Milton, and have read a fair portion of Paradise Lost. I live in a town named after John Milton, and was astounded to find that the local library had not a single writing by him, the towns very namesake! I made mention of this to the librarian (a gentle chiding) which seemed to have an effect because now they have several selections by Milton, along with some other missing classics. Love the video. Poetry seems a lost artform. From Dickinson to Shelly (my favorite) to Byron, there is so much good poetry that my generation just doesn't know! Yet they can sing along to a hundred different rap artists and know the words?

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Wow good thing you said something! I am really looking forward to reading Byron. I have heard some great things on him. Sadly about 10 volumes away so it will be a bit. Thanks so much for watching my friend and stay blessed!

@benrex7775 4 месяца назад

I can relate not being a poetry person. I struggle with porn and thanks to someone I noticed that this is because of a lack of art in my life and a mismanagement of dopamine. Now I'm currently trying to figure out how to change those two things. At the same time I try to get my RU-vid habits under control, as they spiraled out of control. By the way all I know of you as a person is through those classics videos. If you ever feel bad remember that to some people you are a thoughtful person who is calming to listen to. I'm aware that there are other facets to you as a person. After all many people wouldn't think of me as a guy who is a weirdo on the internet watching porn and being addicted to RU-vid. But we shouldn't define ourselves though the things which annoy us the most. If we only look at our dark side and at the things which we could improve on, then we ignore and take for granted our good sides. But I guess this is something I say to myself more than I say it to you.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

I like your perspective here. I think we all as humans struggle with some form of addiction throughout life. Different aspects of life tempt people differently. I never thought about the beauty side of it as most people bring up just the dopamine side of it. There are milestones in life that have really broken some of these habits for me and one big one was having children. I feel I was much more selfish with my time and with all the free time I had I did not utilize my time in a productive manner. But it’s also created many more challenges that I now struggle with. Still looking for the solution myself. Thanks so much for watching and just keep focusing on the course. We will get there brother!

@benrex7775 4 месяца назад

@@The_Cause I am also selfish with my time. And I act as if I have plenty of time, even though I turn 30 in 3 months and I have never even been in a relationship with no wife in sight.

@thepostgradyear 4 месяца назад

man there are a lot of comments on this video already lol - 13 comments at 350 views that's actually crazy - and now it's 14 (at least in terms of individual posts - in terms of comments and replies it looks like I'll be making it 35 which is so crazy - 1 comment or reply for every 10 views? absolutely killing it haha) getting into the way of thinking about poems almost like another language stationed in California - military? a lot of "in my opinion" but I guess it is poetry "don't judge where you're at in life, there's still time"

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Hey buddy!! Ya the comments do pretty good in the beginning then they slowly trick me off. It’s just enjoying where I can still read and reply to most which is nice. The poems “in my opinion” can be read to suit the reader. What I take away from the poem may be complete different than what you take away and that seems to be the beauty. Truly hope you have been well my friend and thanks so much for watching!

@thepostgradyear 4 месяца назад

@@The_Cause trickle off or tick you off? I think something got moved around there haha. thanks for the reply!

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Haha yes “trickle off”! Auto correct did me dirty on that one! Lol

@nickkrupa3818 4 месяца назад

Excellent video! For me, "On the Death of a Fair Infant" was the most memorable poem from Milton's early years. I think the cold north wind, Boreas, "unhoused" the infant's soul. I agree that poetry is meant to be read aloud. I find that the rhythm adds weight and force to the words. The images become more vivid to me when I read poetry aloud. I had to look up many of the literary and mythological allusions while reading Milton. I used a website maintained by Dartmouth called the John Milton Reading Room, which has extensive notes about the allusions.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Oh wow I am going to have to look that up from Dartmouth. The next set of poems at Horton I had to do some research on to understand completely. I feel very green when it comes to reading poetry and I am looking forward to see what I can pull from poetry after completing the series. Where are you at now in the series? Did you make it past Emerson?

@nickkrupa3818 4 месяца назад

I'm still (putting off) reading Emerson haha. I plan to finish the volume two weeks from now during spring break.@@The_Cause

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Nice! I am looking forward to getting past Burns. Looks like there may be some smooth sailing after that for a bit. hah Hope all has been well buddy!

@klosnj11 4 месяца назад

2:00 well, if bacon is telling me to chew and digest, I am inclined to oblige. Yes, I stopped the video just to type this up.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

haha yes indeed! When Bacon says chew... we chew! Thanks for watching and stay blessed my friend!

@austinrucker3853 4 месяца назад

Great video. What branch of service were you in?

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching! I was a Corpsman. Stay blessed brother!

@mikecook_author 4 месяца назад

Poetry can be difficult to enjoy if one does not understand the environment in which it was written. I treat poems as song lyrics to a tune I have not heard before. Repeated readings can reveal the writers flow. Some I fail to grasp but appreciate the craft.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

I feel the same way. I truly appreciate the though that goes into the art of creating these poems but I lack the understanding to fully take in some of them. So much history and culture is wrapped around them that if you are not educated in the classical works it can be hard to comprehend at times especially when referencing all the greek mythology creatures and characters. Thanks so much for watching my friend and stay blessed!

@mikecook_author 4 месяца назад

@@The_Cause I enjoy watching your videos. As I read my own Harvard Classics volumes (mine only has 23 volumes), I write in the margins to explain archaic words, related ideas, historical references, and monetary equivalency. Thanks for the inspiration.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

No problem at all! Ya some pages have a bout 3-4 definitions written in the margins that I had to look up. I’m glad you found a set!

@a_hanna 4 месяца назад

religion and the Bible were very central things for those generations - writers, leaders, royalty, intellectuals, scholars so steeped in these eternal thoughts and words, no better theme to properly cultivate minds. Poetry can be such a struggle (my daughter writes it without the mind steeped in eternal words - and it can be a struggle), but you handled this well. side note: Have you considered doing a check in/status update video on the affect on your brain this 5' bookshelf education is providing? maybe every few volumes? I am going to guess and say that that is a 5' book shelf behind you.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Poetry is more challanging for me as well. I do plan to do a recap/what I have gained video after every 5th volume. So that would be about 10 epidsodes documenting the journey. And yes that is the 5 foot shelf of books up there. Very inimidating as I pulled the 4th volume down and realized how much further I had to go. haha Thanks for watching and stay blessed!

@benrex7775 4 месяца назад

@@The_Cause lol. I didn't notice the bookshelf in the back. It makes for a nice progress bar. And If the bookshelf is that big, then that means I can look forward to a lot of videos in the future. Here is something I wish to do, but perhaps you find it a good idea too. There is a different set of books called "Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers". If you finish the western classics you could continue with those. Yes, I know it is a lot but I want to watch your content in the far future where both of us are retired.

@The_Cause 4 месяца назад

Yes it is a nice progress bar. Reminds me of the progress I still have left to do! Haha I have not heard of that series but I will definitely look into that set. Sounds like it relates to the council of Nicaea possibly. I will have to look up Nicene. Thanks for the recommendation!