The Roboutian Heresy EXPLAINED by an Australian | Warhammer 40k Lore by Majorkill - Reaction 

Honestly as a night lord I say our legion doesn’t work without him dying.

@@Prophetofthe8thLegion yeah you’re probably right, night lords wouldn’t be quite the same otherwise. Just wished there was one fan universe in which he lives a long life where he doesn’t suffer.

@@astartesteadious3756 to quote Ragnar Lothbrok “Happiness is nothing.”

Konrad has to die, he knew it himself.

Konrad would’ve been so much cooler if he lived longer

You would think so, right? But the traitors have Sanguinius, the Lion, and Guilliman

​​@@donatedorb4094the 3 protectorates of Ultramar in cannon

For me it’s Imperial Fists, Word Bearers, and Blood Angels

Emperor's Children, World Eaters and Death Guard

Embracers of Nex, I'm nearly certain of that.

Nah, in the lore of the ravenguard, the Yellow King is mentioned. That's lovecraft.

@@criminalpidgeon4636 It's not Hastur.

@TheGoodLuc Then why Nex? Hastur has the title Yellow King, and one of his titles and forms is The Feaster from Afar: This form is described as a black, shrivelled, flying monstrosity with tentacles tipped with razor-sharp talons. Plus, at the end of the raven guard chapter on FF in the Authors Note: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Corax Occuli wgah'nagl fhtagn that's r'yleh. Also a qoute from zahariel:(I am not sure why, but once the idea of making the Raven Guard's theme the Cthulhu Mythos, inspiration just flowed in me) both the r'yleh and the qoute screams hastur.

@@criminalpidgeon4636 It's a reference. Raven's Guard seems to have emraced Chaos in its more primal form, and became horrors that I think more equal to Nex. They are not mere Chaos worshippers.

It's actually noted that Khorne has marked them originally. Slaanesh gets them because, with Fulgrim avoiding his possession and the fall of his Legion to chaos, they needed a new champion. They conspired with Nurgle to turn the Iron Hands, and in exchange he would help them steal Sanguinius away from Khorne.

The Raven Guard don't merely create eldritch monstrosities, they BECOME them.

Make it a successor chapter of one of the loyalist primarch chapters?

There's some videos you can watch that focus on how to make a Homebrew chapter, if that helps

Good idea

@@kacperkonieczny7333 thanks

Having fun I guess, the reason TTS was created

@@NP3GA I'm absolutely not against that, I just wish characters where not the same in name and appearence only

I mean other than Lorgar, I wouldn’t they’re all too different from their canon counterparts, at least in the beginning. All the author does is add a major event in her life that makes them a little more bitter, a little more paranoid, and Chaos only needs a small window to chip away at before totally corrupting. The way he wrote in these new flaws made sense in the context of the story.

@@romeobelisario3190 If you change your character's backstory and personality so much that if you changed their name, you would get an oc character with few relation of what the original is, then you are creating original characters. It's not a bad thing, but what's the point of calling them the same if you are going to change them so much they are basically another person?

You can't just take literal canon Vulkan and turning him traitor without a huge plot hole. Its a necessary chanhe. I dont see you complaining of Angron or Mortarion here.

reading the fic itself will make the logic more plainly seen

@@nick_a91 Yeah, the synopsis leaves a LOT of very important context out that helps clarify some things. In general, the divergence is that the Primarchs showed up on their homeworlds in slightly different places or times, causing their upbringings to go differently. Jagathai showed up closer to the Palatine forces, which meant he was raised by them and not the Talskar, and thus picked up a cruel streak and a distrust for authority when the Palatine turned against him anyway. Vulkan crashed down into a Salamander nest, and was raised by Kesare. However, Salamander young know instinctively to leave after a while because their parents will kill them otherwise, while Vulkan stayed and was subsequently devoured by the being he knew as a mother. This combined with the early revelation of him being a Perpetual FUCKED him up. Sanguinius was raised not by the tribes out in the wastes but handed off to one of the vaults, which instilled into him an even worse disdain for the mutant and uncertainty over his wings (and made his desperation over the Thirst much worse). Etc.

@@TheAngryXenite Don’t forget that Dorn’s first contact from outside the Inwit system wasn’t the Emperor, it was the Orks, and in a costly drawn out war to repel the Greenskins, he lost almost EVERYTHING. He had to continuously throw more troops and resources into the war, losing the love of his people has he became more of a tyrant to them, more of his home as it was constantly sieged, he even lost the Phalanx, destroying it to deny the Orks a valuable weapon. In the end he lost his stalwart nature and became far moodier, prone to bouts of violence and a belief that mortals were weak and needed Transhuman rule to be kept in check.