VZ Commodore No Go, Just Clicking

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This VZ Commodore has been towed into the workshop with a no start condition.
Listen carefully - can you hear that click when you try and start it? That is a real clue.
What is the fault? Watch and see!
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MiracleMAX wants you to be safe, however, no guarantee can be given against improper use or unauthorised modifications on the information provided. The repair shown in this video is carried out at your own risk and any property damage or injury is your own responsibility. Please ensure you carry out this repair safely using approved safe work practices, correct use of recommended tools and equipment. This video is educational only and is no guarantee of a result if done incorrectly. Any injury, damage or loss due to incorrect use of tools, information or equipment is the sole responsibility of the person carrying out the repair and not MiracleMAX.
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Комментарии : 46

@robnilapple Год назад

Thanks you so much this is exactly what I was looking for

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Glad I could help. Keep an eye out for other videos that you might enjoy! 😉

@colinreid7305 Год назад

Covered the basics very well. A surprising number of starter motor failures are a result of heat damage to the solenoid causing high current draw and the inability of the solenoid to engage the starter motor.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Hey Colin, Spot on. This would have been a solenoid issue, but due the the amount of kilometres, I suggested a replacement starter. Due to the high voltage drop, the pull-in coil wouldn't have been able to activate the solenoid & also supply voltage to the motor itself.

@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51 Год назад

great vid max , Rob Nowra NSW

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Cheers Mate, thanks 😊

@kenboyd2130 4 месяца назад

Excellent video, however VZ V6 Starter motor will come out the top. No need to go under the car. Remove 3 torx screws/bolts on exhaust shroud. Remove 1 torx screw on starter motor shroud. Pull starter motor shroud out towards front of engine and jiggle out completely. Undo 11mm bolts with ratchet socket. Pull out starter. Take off two wires. 15 minute job if you are lucky. Took me an hour because previous owner had stripped one of the torx bolts on exhaust shroud.

@MiracleMAX 4 месяца назад

Good information - thanks for sharing! 👍

@nigelwebber1472 Год назад

Hi MM, always appreciate your thorough diagnosis and explanations. Did you get the new pico for xmas?

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Nah, had it for a while now. I have a diagnostic centre build video up at some point to put up, so stay tuned! Yes, I love my Pico! 😍

@normanmendonca2834 Год назад

Great job Max, I love your show. Thanks.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@theaussienurseflipper.8113 7 месяцев назад

As an old can driver first thing I would have done was cranked the Motor by hand a little bit just in case it was stuck. Second thing I would have hit the starter motor with a hammer, while someone turning the key that would tell very quickly if you start a motor's stuffed. Cheers Graham.

@MiracleMAX 7 месяцев назад

Yes Graham, there are a few different options. Of course, hitting it with a hammer generally will help with brush contact and occasionally a sticky solenoid. Turning the motor by hand will turn the engine itself, but unless the starter is accidently still engaged for some reason, will not turn the starter motor itself. These use a pre-engaged starter motor. With my testing procedures, I try and show the different options to help others, not necessarily what I do in the field. Thanks for your comment.

@colinmiles9390 10 месяцев назад

I know your pain on replacing the starter motor, just changed mine last week after a load of swearing and bleeding knuckles.

@MiracleMAX 10 месяцев назад

Not fun, eh?

@colinmiles9390 10 месяцев назад

@@MiracleMAX so true 😂

@outseeker 6 месяцев назад

bit late to the party but i was interested to know what was wrong with the starter itself, where you can hear it extending/clicking into place when you turn the key, but not rotating- is it easily fixable? or just has to be replaced? like in the case where you can start it, but it takes a couple tries as above, what exactly is wrong with the thing? i understand if u don't have time or inclination to answer this, i appreciate your time all the same :) just wondering if there's any avoiding replacing it

@MiracleMAX 6 месяцев назад

Good question. As stated, if the starter motor (the motor itself) draws too much current, that means that the motor is mechanically worn (bushes or brushes) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hIy4p_Pkbug.html In our case, after doing the voltage drop test, it showed the solenoid connection was faulty. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hIy4p_Pkbug.html Yes, I could have just replaced the solenoid, but for the price of a new starter (complete), compared to me replacing the solenoid only is not worth it. Factor into that the age of the starter & labour costs involved, the customer decided to go with a full starter motor. Thanks for your comment. 😉

@outseeker 5 месяцев назад

thank you kindly @@MiracleMAX :)

@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 Год назад

Clear information.👍 Especially visualizing the current flow with the scope. That reference to Eric O was unexpected!😂

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Thanks. I find the scope invaluable with diagnosis. Yup, Eric O is a legend! 😉😁

@Bzer_ Год назад

Hey where are you located I need same job done for my vz

@MiracleMAX Год назад

NSW You can Email me for more details at miraclemax3@hotmail.com

@alxsandrblan3914 Год назад

Hello my friend how are you? I am from Saudi Arabia. I have SIM car I need help how to find the ground line place in the engine or body please if you can help tell me.

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Hey alxsandr blan, Greetings from Australia! So that I can help you, can you tell me what a SIM car is? Are you looking where the ground from the battery to the engine and chassis are?

@scaredyet Год назад

I think he means "same" car

@BobbyFincher-us3dr 11 месяцев назад

Hey max, my 2006 SVZ VZ is showing error code u2108 (CAN-Bus No Communication with ABS/TC/ESP) I have searched forums it seems like many people have received this code, but no one seemed to solved it on the forums. Could you assist?

@MiracleMAX 11 месяцев назад

Sure. Just a few questions. Is the check engine or ABS lights on the dash? Are the fault codes listed as 'Present or Current'? Do the codes come back after clearing? Have all fuses and relays been tested?

@full_metal_everything6929 Год назад

i have same problem and more than this problem the petrol dash and engine temp dash not working and the cruis and the ac :(

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Sounds like you have your work cut out for you! 🤔

@full_metal_everything6929 Год назад

@@MiracleMAX can i send the video to ur instagram?

@MiracleMAX Год назад

@@full_metal_everything6929 Sure

@full_metal_everything6929 Год назад

@MiracleMAX i send the video and what i did🥲🥲

@sumpoiler Год назад

just replace my starter motor today with the same problems/symptoms original starter motor 249,000 km replaced it with a genuine starter (mitsubishi)

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Good timing then Sumpoiler! This vehicle had done over 230,000 & possibly the original starter. Thanks for your comment 👍

@MiracleMAX Год назад

@@krystal5887 Yes, I did use an aftermarket starter.

@sumpoiler Год назад

@@krystal5887 well if the original has done 249,000 KM in 16 years the replacement will see the car out

@JohnSmith-wb6kq Год назад

1:25 Ret ret what does that man?

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Ret Ret means me using pretend arrows, pointing in the direction of the ignition switch 😁😉🤣😎

@JohnSmith-wb6kq Год назад

@@MiracleMAX Ahhh hahah, I thought I was missing some insiders secret, cheers mate :-)

@MiracleMAX Год назад

@@JohnSmith-wb6kq Nah, just my strange way of describing things 😉🤔🤣

@johncrete7932 Год назад

Hey max great info Have you got any fixes for the stiff accelerator pedal on the v6 VZ commodore please?? Cheers

@MiracleMAX Год назад

Hey John, If yours is an APP (Accelerator Pedal Position) sensor, it will have 2 carbon tracks that tend to wear, but you might also find that it is mechanically sticky on the pedal pivot point. Not sure how much access you have to it, but you may have to remove it, lubricate it and then reinstall it.

@mrkhokhar4895 7 месяцев назад

Heavy click of solinoide and self not moving mean issue with self

@MiracleMAX 7 месяцев назад

Not quite sure I understand, but if the solenoid clicks, that means that it is getting power to the solenoid, however, voltage should be checked there to make sure there are no voltage drops.