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West Shore Services Siren Junkyard Tour Part 1 of 2 July 1st, 2013 

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@sirensandstuff5780
@sirensandstuff5780 3 года назад
13:35 that stl-10 is mine now. Its interesting to see what it was like before I started restoring it.
@joshuaeckberg6675
@joshuaeckberg6675 10 лет назад
a little kid in me is screaming I want thunderbolts give me thunderbolts!!
@1000tCSX
@1000tCSX 6 лет назад
Joshua Eckberg same here
@leemilica
@leemilica 6 лет назад
I want a whelen or a modulator! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@southernsirensofamerica_yt3528
3T22
@positionlightproductions6187
@positionlightproductions6187 4 года назад
Same. Or a 3T22
@Benicio_Fols
@Benicio_Fols 4 года назад
And the eows 612
@HavardCastiglioni
@HavardCastiglioni 4 года назад
The 508 resembles a cereal bowl in a humorous way but In actuality, they are some regular tornado warning sirens. The reason that being said is because when you see a bunch of 508s in w.s.s, you are likely in for a huge surprise
@1000tCSX
@1000tCSX 7 лет назад
poor sirens, I hate to see sirens treated this way! :( :( :(
@Konny_Time
@Konny_Time 7 лет назад
Adam's Alsrms ikr
@1000tCSX
@1000tCSX 6 лет назад
Jibanyanfaith 2003???
@danielletripkoff4199
@danielletripkoff4199 6 лет назад
CSX Railfan 1000T Me too
@VirtualSimulations-Sirens1954B
it is cool though to come see
@noobplayz2295
@noobplayz2295 5 лет назад
@Kovuuu It is more than metal it has history in it also saving lives.
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 8 лет назад
8:04 that blower is so rusty it turned orange lol
@WestCentralSirensofTX
@WestCentralSirensofTX 4 года назад
XD XD XD 🤣🤣
@Railfanunionpacific5277
@Railfanunionpacific5277 2 года назад
That’s rude
@jacobtompke8677
@jacobtompke8677 8 лет назад
i wish I lived here!!! I want to go here so bad!
@Elizabeth-ts4om
@Elizabeth-ts4om 8 лет назад
You're local siren graveyard is probably just as good 😄
@Tigers9596
@Tigers9596 8 лет назад
Local?
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 8 лет назад
ikr? I want to go there soo bad but my parents wont let me because we live in TN
@1000tCSX
@1000tCSX 6 лет назад
Jacob Tompke me to
@minnesotaoutdoorwarningsirens
@minnesotaoutdoorwarningsirens 4 года назад
We all do
@bigblumerstrikesback
@bigblumerstrikesback Год назад
I loved the 612 siren😊🎉
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 11 лет назад
Yes. They can ship it to your place which would be harder cause they are gonna need to know where your located and it will cost extra especially for the shipping.
@johndeerefan725
@johndeerefan725 3 года назад
It looks cool seeing an army of 2001-130s waiting to be shipped
@DJ2226
@DJ2226 11 лет назад
The little kid in me is screaming "I want Whelen... give me Whelen!"
@GhostlyGuitar
@GhostlyGuitar 3 года назад
And mine is screaming: "I want Thunderbolt 1000T, gimme it now!!"
@midnite2smoove
@midnite2smoove 3 года назад
my kid is like:GIMME A, 2001,508,5020,1000T,2805 PLZ
@jonathanroberts227
@jonathanroberts227 3 года назад
Give me eows612 or else is me
@LethalNxmba
@LethalNxmba 3 года назад
I’m like GIVE ME THE MODEL 5, STH-10, THUNDERBOLT, P-50, MODEL 2 NOW!!!!!!!!!
@CS8sirenwastaken
@CS8sirenwastaken 2 года назад
I’m saying I WANT MOBIL DIRECTO GIVI ME NOW OAR DIE
@mikeray7234
@mikeray7234 11 лет назад
That Whelen you are questioning at 12:53 is a 2900 series, look at the support beams on the outside of the cells, they a smooth round shape, and they are also painted black, at the begging of the video you point out a 2700 series siren, the support beams on that are grey and have an interesting design
@WarningSirensOfMichiana
@WarningSirensOfMichiana 11 лет назад
The siren at 12:50 is a 2900. 2700s have silver supports on the sides and 2900s are black.
@Mike1693_tsmlover
@Mike1693_tsmlover 5 дней назад
im the kid who screams "give me the allertor i want the allertor"
@LT-DANS-LEGS769-YT
@LT-DANS-LEGS769-YT 9 лет назад
That esc-864 box you found is rare because they only made the esc-864s for a limited time
@ConradVertzX
@ConradVertzX 7 лет назад
Austin Austin esc 864s are in all 3016s and some older 4004s
@kimberlyneder5137
@kimberlyneder5137 8 лет назад
all these sirens are the same as I remember when I went to west shore services
@serbianrailfanning967
@serbianrailfanning967 3 года назад
Ahh that part when you said hi to the 2001!So cute like he is alive!
@emrilbennett8704
@emrilbennett8704 Год назад
Agree so cute.
@queencitysirens8755
@queencitysirens8755 5 лет назад
2:40 Dan, I love your sense of humor!
@carexpertandy
@carexpertandy 11 лет назад
Very interesting! Feels like siren heaven here
@Wps--ls9oi
@Wps--ls9oi 2 года назад
You can imagine it like they’re in heaven and when they are purchased they reincarnate and when they get scrapped they go to hell
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 11 лет назад
It is. It appears to be the ESC-864 controller at least the looks of it. The bottom part which is the battery council is shaped slightly different but ether way, yes it is a Whelen.
@mikeray7234
@mikeray7234 11 лет назад
At 10:20, that siren cabinet is a type three siren cabinet, that's the one I prefer
@JakobHill
@JakobHill 10 лет назад
How do you distinguish the Whelen Vortex from the rotating WPS sirens?
@DJ2226
@DJ2226 10 лет назад
Look for a fin. If it has one, you've got a Vortex. No fin, then you look at the rotator. The Vortex will have a square looking box sticking out of the side of them where as the WPS series has a cylinder looking motor sticking out. The oldest 4004s have a similar look to the 4008 but half the size. Similar sides and sports an X on the screen.
@SixThreeTech
@SixThreeTech 3 года назад
10:52 that i believe is a controller off of a 2802, it only has 2 amp signal lights, and also since there is no fuses, its a digital 864 panel
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 3 года назад
I never thought of that. Of course back then, I didn't have any knowlage of Analogs and Digitals.
@SixThreeTech
@SixThreeTech 3 года назад
@@Siren1000T1 oh ok, you learn something new everyday (not just you, everybody learns something new everyday :)]
@SixThreeTech
@SixThreeTech 3 года назад
Update: Thats an IPS-400 controller
@NEOhioTrainFan
@NEOhioTrainFan 10 лет назад
10:50 That was probably most likely a control unit used for Whelen's SIPS 400/800 warning sirens. Illustrations used in their manual resemble quite a bit compared to in-video.
@Cemoman17
@Cemoman17 11 лет назад
11:17 That thunderbolt looks to be in such good shape. I could get one but I sadly live a little to far away from Michigan.
@Anzac1
@Anzac1 2 года назад
On the outside it could look nice but on the inside it could be crap
@TimberWolfWhitevalley-224
@TimberWolfWhitevalley-224 9 лет назад
This is depressing...
@TimberWolfWhitevalley-224
@TimberWolfWhitevalley-224 9 лет назад
Sidenote, I want that sterling siren...
@Marcos-eo7ii
@Marcos-eo7ii 5 лет назад
All siren is dead
@Midwest_Sirens
@Midwest_Sirens 4 года назад
Gamingwithvanessa No, some sirens at WSS still work fine.
@lonely.toaster
@lonely.toaster 3 года назад
Javier Gonzalez Some are even ready to be shipped out from being brand new/repaired
@mikeray7234
@mikeray7234 11 лет назад
That Whelen "box" at 4:20 is a type two siren cabinet, it has the siren data board in the top part and two batteries in the bottom, a type three is similar in design but can hold four batteries, therefore I personally like the type three cabinet
@chopperguy5569
@chopperguy5569 8 лет назад
I want that Whelen vortex is there any way you can buy old sirens from them
@SuburbanStorms
@SuburbanStorms 6 лет назад
I went to west shore services today
@VirtualSimulations-Sirens1954B
It would be nice if you could find one of the harper woods thunderbolts, I already know el1998p71 has the b series but yeah
@thunderbolt10031
@thunderbolt10031 11 лет назад
The Thunderbolt section is a gold mine to me. Must resist going CRAZY MAW HA HA!!!
@billyharlan2642
@billyharlan2642 9 лет назад
All of tulsa, oklahomas 4004s and 3016s have the esc-864 controllers.
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 11 лет назад
The crew don't mind if there is someone alone in the yard but they need to know if there is someone out in the yard. If you plan on going, you can call them to let them know and when you get there, you can check in at the main office to let them know and they'll let you do what you want.
@MatthewKehn187
@MatthewKehn187 3 года назад
If I can remember I saw on google maps one of the whelen vortexes had to be the one that used to be at lions park on dexter Ann Arbor road until it got replaced with a 2001 130 in early 2009
@TheCasualSirenEnthusiast
@TheCasualSirenEnthusiast 2 года назад
10:29 that is an analog ESC-864. at the bottom it says (C) 1988. The digital ones didn't come out until 1994.
@Elizabeth-ts4om
@Elizabeth-ts4om 8 лет назад
I bet some of Marion County, IN's old sirens are there! Let me know if you see any from there. We used to have Thunderbolt 1000T/1003s, Model 5s, a Model 2, 3 or 4 SD-10s, and several Older 2001s. Our system now consists of all 2001s. We test on the 1st Friday at 11:00 for 50 seconds. Feel free to come down any time you want 😄
@MrIamalego
@MrIamalego 8 лет назад
Where have you seen an SD-10 or Model 5 or 2's around Indy before? I know Speedway only had a Tbolt
@Elizabeth-ts4om
@Elizabeth-ts4om 8 лет назад
+NaptownFireman20188 does this answer your question? www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zOCrmm7Si0Zw.kVkeAgcTWeA0&hl=en_US
@zacheryschmidt1322
@zacheryschmidt1322 11 лет назад
How much would it cost to buy a thunderbolt.
@RaisedLetter
@RaisedLetter 10 лет назад
What would estimation price be for a Banshee or Penetrator with a panel or a Sterling?
@DarkstalkerThePrimagen
@DarkstalkerThePrimagen 7 лет назад
at the thunderbolt blower scene when he turns the camera and zooms into the woods it looks like bananas
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 10 лет назад
Probably around $500 or less if you purchase it from WSS.
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 11 лет назад
I thought it looked more newer then a 2700 head. I just couldn't tell the difference since they looked identical. Thanks for pointing that out. :)
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 2 года назад
@Hmmm Hmmm The WPS-2900 series has voice capability. Omni-Alert does not and they only have 1 cell, 2 cells, 3 cells, and 4 cells available. Omni-Alert only goes as much as 4 driver cells and they use a Type 1 controller while the WPS-2900s 1 to 5 use a Type 2 controller and 6 to 10 use a Type 3 controller. I'm not sure if there is a exterior physical difference of the siren head itself cause they both look the same. The Firehouse siren (Going by the website) says they have FAUXIN Limited function auxiliary board for contact closure Activation. I have no clue what any of that means but both the Omni-Alert and Firehouse Sirens use the Type 1 controller and both go up as much as 4 driver cells.
@timlark8800
@timlark8800 9 лет назад
nice to see it just dumped outside to let the vegetation grow around it and never to be removed!
@mikeray7234
@mikeray7234 10 лет назад
Was there any model 5 or 7 there in goodish condition
@DJ2226
@DJ2226 11 лет назад
The WPS-29XXs have a system where one can pull the speaker out the side of the array. Look for the handle.
@Roostertailin
@Roostertailin 8 лет назад
2001-DCs never have a logo. They don't fade. They never came with a logo.
@Elizabeth-ts4om
@Elizabeth-ts4om 8 лет назад
Some do
@Roostertailin
@Roostertailin 8 лет назад
+BOB!theGMObanana it's pretty rare though. Every vid I see they never have one
@AveryatTwoohFive
@AveryatTwoohFive 7 лет назад
RDI Productions I have seen a roundback with a logo
@OtamaDragon
@OtamaDragon 7 лет назад
+Avery Gustafson some of the DCs have logos but most of them don't
@Roostertailin
@Roostertailin 7 лет назад
Rachael M Ok. That's what I thought
@NPminnetonka
@NPminnetonka 10 лет назад
I just went there yesterday and got me a siren , too!
@Elizabeth-ts4om
@Elizabeth-ts4om 8 лет назад
+RailYardWarrior Can you just show up there, or do you have to schedule an appointment? I'm thinking about going there over the summer. And, on average, how much does it cost to buy a siren?
@NPminnetonka
@NPminnetonka 8 лет назад
+lizziepickle3000 you have to call the president, jeff. Email him first, and you'll schedule a phone call. You can then schedule a time and siren, and he'll have it ready by the time you get there. He's a very nice guy- very friendly, very patient. his siren yard it emptying, though. you better hurry up
@Wps--ls9oi
@Wps--ls9oi 2 года назад
What siren was it?
@renton9999
@renton9999 9 лет назад
those 2001:DCs appear to be too new to have been put into service, plus they are still mounted to the pallet, so quite likely never used
@theray2009
@theray2009 2 года назад
those are my favorite sirens there, i'd love a 2001-SRNDC
@L.I.Thunderbolt1003
@L.I.Thunderbolt1003 7 лет назад
Replacing quality sirens with pieces of $&!.;
@LoneStarSirenProductions
@LoneStarSirenProductions 4 года назад
Lithunderbolt1003 ikr
@nvaa1991
@nvaa1991 4 года назад
I Want Thunderbolts Back!!
@SportyTrainGuy
@SportyTrainGuy 3 года назад
@@nvaa1991 Agreed
@ntytp
@ntytp 3 года назад
TSM reference
@zlatazrnic
@zlatazrnic 3 года назад
I did not know they still have 508 in 2013
@Glist_
@Glist_ 11 лет назад
Do they ship to central Indiana? Do they even ship out old sirens? (such as a t-bolt)
@workingsirensmit5109
@workingsirensmit5109 Год назад
I do have a EOWS 612 siren in my backyard I kept it for 6 years and it stopped working and broke now it's in that junkyard that a saw on this video
@eastcoastalerting
@eastcoastalerting 6 лет назад
That whelen was a 2900 series. The 2700 series has the white sides.
@SuburbanStorms
@SuburbanStorms 4 года назад
When I went there in 2018 they were installing a 2001 siren
@bkriegel95
@bkriegel95 8 лет назад
Also I wonder if that modulator was from Moore OK? I sure looks like it was destroyed by a tornado and Moore sure had a butt load of modulators when the tornado hit.
@2001SRN
@2001SRN 8 лет назад
Thus Moore mod
@keneniahwilliams4374
@keneniahwilliams4374 5 лет назад
Does anyone know if the yard is open to the public
@Membriss
@Membriss Год назад
Y’all should give the sirens to areas that don’t have sirens like Massachusetts
@hollyreese2329
@hollyreese2329 7 лет назад
ho much would a thunderbolt with a blower cost at west shore services
@nvaa1991
@nvaa1991 4 года назад
I So Want To Go There Badly!
@serbianrailfanning967
@serbianrailfanning967 3 года назад
2:41 Oh hi *Says in very nice way*
@tonyeichensehr3450
@tonyeichensehr3450 7 лет назад
There's no junk in there it's all treasure
@clumoostudios3585
@clumoostudios3585 5 лет назад
12:40 wheeler 2905, 2900 have the small screens and the 2800 have the big screens
@AveryatTwoohFive
@AveryatTwoohFive 5 лет назад
Do they have any XT22s?
@minnesotaoutdoorwarningsirens
@minnesotaoutdoorwarningsirens 4 года назад
Your lucky, I live In Eden Prairie MN
@Tigers9596
@Tigers9596 10 лет назад
I'm heading back this summer to get a better vid.
@Cemoman17
@Cemoman17 11 лет назад
Depends probably 100 was what I heard
@thunderbolt4113
@thunderbolt4113 5 лет назад
This makes me sad seeing all them broken like this
@Benicio_Fols
@Benicio_Fols 4 года назад
Same
@halpmeamcringe1538
@halpmeamcringe1538 4 года назад
I agree
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 8 лет назад
also, was the service drive thunderbolt there before it was put back in service?
@Tigers9596
@Tigers9596 8 лет назад
It's not in service. I saw the same one when I went back in December.
@Glist_
@Glist_ 11 лет назад
4:30 By the way I think that's a Whelen control box.
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 7 лет назад
Just wondering, is WSS scrapping the entire yard for real? SPC Rutherford told me he called WSS and that he was told that they're scrapping the entire yard of sirens
@worldofbrandan
@worldofbrandan 6 лет назад
Creeperboy He was yanking your chain I emailed the president directly and he stated it was just a rumor and they aren't scraping their siren yard.
@MarilynMansonIsBetterThanRap
@MarilynMansonIsBetterThanRap 6 лет назад
I'm interested to buy one how much are they
@thefullmoonwerewolf9282
@thefullmoonwerewolf9282 6 лет назад
Siren1000T: What type of Thunderbolt is this? Thunderbolt: I'm a 1003! Siren1000T: It's a 1000 tr-Thats not a 1003! Thunderbolt: I AM! Siren1000T: Look! Where's the Silonoied? Thunderbolt: IT IS GONE! Siren1000T: Ehh, it's gone! Thunderbolt: I KNOW! DO YOU HEAR ME Siren1000T: Oh wait wait......that is probably what is left of it! Thunderbolt: I FREAKING KNOW! ARE YOU STUPID, SIREN1000T!?!?!?!?!?
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 6 лет назад
I couldn't tell hard enough that the chopper assembly was taken apart for me to misjudge on a siren model. :P
@JMANWiSS
@JMANWiSS 11 лет назад
They should ship that old 2001 out with the new ones, just hook up new boxes and it is perfectly good.
@pixelatednate4864
@pixelatednate4864 8 лет назад
at 7:26 what model of whelen was that? I'm dying to know
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 8 лет назад
+DaGhostlyGengarGamer Looks like one cell from a Whelen 2800 series.
@pixelatednate4864
@pixelatednate4864 8 лет назад
+Siren1000T I actually found the model earlier, however I cannot find any videos
@Justinross_Payawal
@Justinross_Payawal 8 лет назад
+Siren1000T i think the modulator is beat up by a tornado
@sjake786
@sjake786 7 лет назад
+Siren1000T 2801
@minnesotaoutdoorwarningsirens
@minnesotaoutdoorwarningsirens 4 года назад
Is there any red allertors from mn there?
@ATOMSHAMRADIO
@ATOMSHAMRADIO 3 года назад
Wish I can get my hands on a thunderbolt or restore them old ones
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 11 лет назад
That's what I was thinking too.
@NeilPrasad_1905
@NeilPrasad_1905 5 лет назад
8-16 port is sterling m10
@NEOhioTrainFan
@NEOhioTrainFan 10 лет назад
What would be the average price for a 3016 or a 2016?
@WhelenWps-hk6jq
@WhelenWps-hk6jq 4 года назад
For what reason do you want to buy me?
@Tigers9596
@Tigers9596 8 лет назад
Ik this video is almost three years old, but the Whelen at 12:50 was a 2900 if you didn't know yet.
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 8 лет назад
+Sirens & Aviation Yeah actually back then, I couldn't tell the difference by the exterior looks. I learned how to tell the difference of models by looking at the cell supporters.
@gio11138
@gio11138 8 лет назад
+Siren1000T So, how do you tell the difference between 2800's and 2900's?
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 8 лет назад
Giovanny Plascencia I go by the mesh screen that covers the cells. airraidsirens.com/wiki/images/d/d6/WPS_2805_Official.jpeg airraidsirens.com/wiki/images/b/b3/WPS2905_Official.jpeg
@gio11138
@gio11138 8 лет назад
Siren1000T​ Ok, now I know the difference. Thanks Dan.
@gio11138
@gio11138 8 лет назад
Anyways, I told my mom that I wanted to record a siren, and she said, MAYBE, I hope I can go.
@Spencerlovestrains25
@Spencerlovestrains25 8 лет назад
I think that finback Vortex came from Jefferson Elementary in Coldwater!
@sjake786
@sjake786 7 лет назад
Wait....Coldwater got rid of there finbacks?
@Spencerlovestrains25
@Spencerlovestrains25 7 лет назад
The one on the south side might still be standing, but may get replaced.
@sjake786
@sjake786 7 лет назад
Isn't that the one with a busted driver?
@Spencerlovestrains25
@Spencerlovestrains25 7 лет назад
Yes
@sjake786
@sjake786 7 лет назад
Ok. I wish there were more finabaks
@JMANWiSS
@JMANWiSS 11 лет назад
BTW I call them Five Oh Eights too
@TheSleepyMechanic0524
@TheSleepyMechanic0524 10 лет назад
I hope there are A1 blowers and 4/5 port thunderbolts.
@Whyyoutubewhy..
@Whyyoutubewhy.. 2 года назад
And B series
@rosafoster1528
@rosafoster1528 7 лет назад
the siren is a whelen wps 2750
@MidwestSirenProductions
@MidwestSirenProductions 11 лет назад
Do you know if this place is open to the public or do you have to call ahead?
@fs_sd-10
@fs_sd-10 Месяц назад
You have to call to schedulle a tour and call and ask if you want buy a siren.
@federalsignal3t22tornadosi5
@federalsignal3t22tornadosi5 6 лет назад
Yes A Whelen finback is a older model
@MAJ0R3
@MAJ0R3 3 года назад
I would have bought a thunderbolt if I could but Im sure most of them were either scraped or restored
@Med0sproductions
@Med0sproductions 6 лет назад
i hate to see those thunderbolts just rotting away man. those are the coolest sirens, and unfortunately the powers at be do not see the true value in them. they are iconic. no siren will ever be able to match it or replace it
@919hornet4me
@919hornet4me 9 лет назад
How could you not be interested in thunderbolts?
@Elizabeth-ts4om
@Elizabeth-ts4om 8 лет назад
+919hornet4me They are not my favorite siren, but they are very cool sirens as they are so old and unique
@ThisHandleIsNotTaken.
@ThisHandleIsNotTaken. 3 года назад
How much would a controller go for
@SuzanneGillespie
@SuzanneGillespie 11 лет назад
I noticed you occasionally remarking on the screens each siren possessed. Is their purpose to prevent birds and insects from nesting inside the siren?
@Anzac1
@Anzac1 2 года назад
The screens are to prevent birds from nesting in the siren and also Federal Signal does their best to keep birds out of their sirens
@ganon8109
@ganon8109 7 лет назад
Do you hear a siren ambience guys?
@doverpoint1
@doverpoint1 11 лет назад
Can I get a siren without having to go there?
@SkyGameZZZZ
@SkyGameZZZZ 6 лет назад
I got a free beaten up whelen 3016 And gave it to a town near me that doesn't have siren
@meisnice2448
@meisnice2448 3 года назад
10:51 This Whelen controller is not really that special. As you can see by the 2 fuses on the left, it was most likely for WPS-2801-2901, but not sure. Maybe 2802-2902.
@bkriegel95
@bkriegel95 8 лет назад
That Whelen Vortex doesn't even look that old to me
@rosafoster1528
@rosafoster1528 7 лет назад
the siren is a Helen 2750
@rpgiv3175
@rpgiv3175 5 лет назад
Hey you found a 5m blower!
@keneniahwilliams4374
@keneniahwilliams4374 5 лет назад
Do u work there
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 8 лет назад
was the salter park thunderbolt there?
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 8 лет назад
+Creeperboy Yes. Eric now owns it.
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 8 лет назад
eric as in cheetawolf?
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 8 лет назад
Creeperboy el1998p71
@Creeperboy099
@Creeperboy099 8 лет назад
I know cheetawolf's name because I heard his dad say his name in a video
@doverpoint1
@doverpoint1 11 лет назад
@ 12:58 what's the difference?
@Siren1000T1
@Siren1000T1 11 лет назад
That's the idea.
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