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Winter Driving the 2023 Type R on 18" Wheels & Tires 

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Wheels: BRAID Fullrace FF. 18x9.5 5x120 +50mm offset, 64.1mm Center Bore braidusa.com/
Tires: 265/40R18 Continental DWS 06 Plus
315 horsepower @ 6500 rpm, 310 lb-ft of torque from 2600 to 4000 rpm
6-Speed Manual Transmission
Curb weight: 3188 lbs
MPG: 22 City / 28 Highway
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@eloneatmyshorts
@eloneatmyshorts Год назад
Nice to see FL5 CTR owners actually experiencing the stock suspension before they actually want to modify it. So many new owners off the bat lowering them with aggressive tires thinking they can do better than Honda engineers 😂 Bravo to Topher and Tedward for real world usage. And finally someone actually talking about -gasp SCRUB RADIUS!
@robertmuhly6332
@robertmuhly6332 Год назад
I felt the same with my Si, why mess with what Honda engineers came up with. Just a nice set of tires is all you need
@poopdeckpete
@poopdeckpete Год назад
this build and color is so sick topher. great video.
@hecticphusion
@hecticphusion Год назад
wheels are not a build
@Shono731
@Shono731 Год назад
Always awesome videos Topher!! I am a fan of the fl5!! I just traded my 2019 Sonic Gray Pearl fk8 and got a black fl5 last Friday! I was fortunate enough to get mine at msrp!! I have been lovin it and am excited to make it past break in!! Keep up the amazing work and have a great remainder of your weekend!🚙😀♥️
@zerobro44
@zerobro44 Год назад
Hey! I just wanted to say I love your channel! I have to wait 4 more years for a car which I'm happy to wait out, and in the mean time I like watching your content with the civic! Thanks for being there for me.
@nikolai1004
@nikolai1004 Год назад
Awesome content , never stop doing these !
@chinkoy999
@chinkoy999 Год назад
always love your content! keep it up! -love from Japan
@MrTLX
@MrTLX Год назад
Love every minute of this video 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Topher having a lil fun in the snow
@lexbraxman9270
@lexbraxman9270 Год назад
Such a perfect car for what it is. You're brave to slide around with traction control off !
@n-power-automotive
@n-power-automotive Год назад
Those Braids look so dang good on the CTR! I completely agree on the improved NVH with the Conti DWS 06 +. I downsized to 18s on my Elantra N with them and I immediately recognized the improvement in ride quality and road noise. They really are an amazing tire!
@jakep519
@jakep519 Год назад
I got DWS06+'s on my Elantra N, but kept the 19 inch wheels. There was a huge difference between the PS4s and the Contis.
@n-power-automotive
@n-power-automotive Год назад
@@jakep519 good to know!
@RealNaomiMizushima
@RealNaomiMizushima Год назад
That thing looks gorgeous, i'm glad you are enjoying it as well as the BRZ.
@CM-yy9bc
@CM-yy9bc Год назад
I ran a few sets of dws06 on my wrx and now on my is300 AWD. Absolutely one of the best high performance all seasons. Very impressive performance in rain and snow.
@aldenino2019
@aldenino2019 Год назад
Oh man this is so awesome, happy for you bro
@mattkroening7964
@mattkroening7964 Год назад
I'm sure it's inevitable, but a comparison between this and an FK8 would be awesome. I'm particularly interested in how the adaptive suspension compares between the two. The ability to change between different modes with the suspension seems almost pointless if the car just changes the settings itself regardless.
@reyn6503
@reyn6503 Год назад
I'm driving on 225/40R18 DWS06+ as well on an Impreza Sport, my biggest praise is how well they hold up to potholes.
@JordanLoweElevaToursCanada
@JordanLoweElevaToursCanada Год назад
I was waiting for The Topher to buy the new type R. I could tell in previous videos that he loved the new civic type R, so I'm really happy to see I'm glad he actually owns this car.
@vipermoon_
@vipermoon_ Год назад
9:04 I agree, like in those bumps if it stiffened up that doesn't increase grip, it reduces it
@johnli1154
@johnli1154 Год назад
This wheel reminds me 98 Spec Integra Type R wheels, what a fabulous car!
@burst7770
@burst7770 Год назад
Love that you’re not afraid of using it no matter the weather haha.
@znghant
@znghant Год назад
Very nice. Dailied my 2018 Si on DWS06+’s. Really an amazing tire for an all-season. Handled snow surprisingly well going through Colorado this past November. Really insane grip on plain wet roads too.
@coflyer2949
@coflyer2949 6 месяцев назад
Hey so I’m looking at getting an Si but I drive to the ski resorts here pretty often. How does it handle with those tires?
@peter9930
@peter9930 Год назад
wheels look good, what's the summer setup gonna be 🤔
@j.3854
@j.3854 Год назад
liking the 18’s. still waiting to see a FL5 de-winged with holes filled. the FK8 had a wonky rear tailgate setup, so a wing delete never quite looked right. I want a swift sprung, de-winged with holes filled at a body shop, 18” Gloss Silver Regamaster, Red or Blue R.
@jonizzzle
@jonizzzle Год назад
Nice POV! I’m also interested in that mountain bike setup 👀
@Newyen6MT
@Newyen6MT Год назад
Nokian WRG4s are really good all weather tires that are snow rated that I am using for my winter tires on my FWD 2013 Accord Coupe 6MT. They still perform great in the dry/rain and in the snow when it's really cold and slushy. They are marketed as a UHP winter tire for sport cars in Europe and all weather tires here in the states. I would be curious to see your thought's on how they perform and others as well. I love them
@superbros1690
@superbros1690 Год назад
That's the best color for any car tbh, it reflects sunlight, and scratches don't show as much. Nice pick!
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
I missed having a white car after my 2010 GTI, so visible at night too!
@zr0z
@zr0z 9 месяцев назад
Hi Topher! What made you switch off of these tires? After seeing this video i was considering a very similar setup (same tires, same wheel / tire specs). I thought it would be perfect for daily driver duty but it seems like you’re running a different setup now. Any regrets with the 40 profile or tires? I have an FL5 so I’m curious about your experiences.
@romaingallard8385
@romaingallard8385 Год назад
DSWS 06+ are awesome for all seasons on the dry, they are however OK in the snow, nothing to write home about! They are predictable and easy at least.
@Kyle-xo2zz
@Kyle-xo2zz Год назад
I have 245/40/18 dw06’s on my 13 accord coupe v6 on stock rims vs the factory 235/45/18. Car feels good and I love the continental’s exceptional tire wear good all year round amazing grip
@hosmell73
@hosmell73 8 месяцев назад
What would you recommend for an all season set up for a Acura type-s? Would 18 in wheels fit the Acura also?
@DramaticReplayss
@DramaticReplayss Год назад
Just picked up a set of these continentals for my 2017 Ford Fusion sport. 235/40r/19 😎
@alengreen589
@alengreen589 Год назад
Is this Honda Type R better as the 2023 Golf GTI Clupsport?
@barryliu3473
@barryliu3473 Год назад
U guys back already??? awwww wanted to see more of that canyon driving
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Lots more CA videos still in the pipeline!
@moonsapling
@moonsapling Год назад
Finally, oh my! Snow suits the civic.
@Boom-tj6nn
@Boom-tj6nn 7 месяцев назад
how is it in deep Michigan snow?
@tyalexander9005
@tyalexander9005 Год назад
this is too cool! good job topher!!!!
@CuriousGeorge1111
@CuriousGeorge1111 Год назад
How ironic, finding that a sports car bought for its manual transmission, has an automatic suspension! I'm a Kalamazoo native, wintering in Tucson, and your driving conditions make me homesick! Safe travels.
@accordinglyryan
@accordinglyryan Год назад
Looks great. The speedo being off would bug me but that's just my OCD lol
@MukiMuki688
@MukiMuki688 Год назад
functionally, these are a better combo than the factory wheel/tire. Even in the dry.
@Galottiful
@Galottiful Год назад
Got the dws-06 to replace my pilot sport 4s and on street driving they feel so similar to the 4s. Plenty of grip even on 40 degree days
@alexk4804
@alexk4804 Год назад
not in my experience with low profile tires (215/45/18) I went through 5 of these tires (and 4 bent wheels) but luckily I had wheel and tire insurance I don't blame the tires and would still recommend them because most likely it would be the same situation with different tires on potholes with this size tire
@K4Cachet
@K4Cachet Год назад
Nice!
@trilingualkid
@trilingualkid Год назад
those 18s will make the car quiet and improve comfort much better, I went from 19s to 18s on my 2013 Hyundai Genesis sedan 5.0...totally love the car now, it doesnt drive like a Civic anymore.
@twothicc
@twothicc Год назад
LOVE these tires on my M2C
@robm805
@robm805 Год назад
Hopefully you're enjoying it
@josepholson4850
@josepholson4850 7 месяцев назад
nice wheels! I just did a similar winter setup...I had to get black alloys though, they only had grey in 32mm and it felt too far away from stock went with 18x8 +42mm Enkei Raijin and 235/40/18 Michelin Pilot Alpin 5, if anybody is researching winter setups for FL5
@glgarcia0713
@glgarcia0713 Год назад
I just realized that the entire civic lineup has different color needles for the instrument cluster. Regular civics have white, Si has red, and Type R gets yellow
@musguelha14
@musguelha14 Год назад
Yes, it's always been that way since the 90s.
@glgarcia0713
@glgarcia0713 Год назад
@@musguelha14 I know that, I’m just saying it’s neat that they continued it with the digital clusters
@porfiriato84
@porfiriato84 Год назад
@@glgarcia0713 you never said that lol. You literally said "I just realized" Meaning you weren't aware of this in the past. It's ok to be wrong.
@glgarcia0713
@glgarcia0713 Год назад
@@porfiriato84 my guy, I meant for this generation civic. I know the previous ones were like that
@sapikivii
@sapikivii Год назад
Fn2 still had red needle hmm
@k20aef8
@k20aef8 Год назад
Blixzaks on the stock rims works just fine for snow my s4s went on the forged type r rims. BTW I'm in chicago you don't need to reduce rim size.
@treyhale8063
@treyhale8063 Год назад
1st love the new Type R
@denvernn
@denvernn Год назад
Krown is a must in the rust belt. Do it yearly and you should be good. Had a 2004 Pilot that was Krowned every year since new. No rust 15 years later when it was sold.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
That’s what I love to hear!
@TheBreakfastLover
@TheBreakfastLover Год назад
I can vouch for yearly Krown as well. Not even a spec of rust on my 1997 4Runner.
@nico3727
@nico3727 Год назад
I was this or an RCF don’t know if I should wait till once I’m making money with engineering degree though
@TchnoZ
@TchnoZ 7 месяцев назад
This might sound dumb especially because this video is 9 months old. But I noticed your front wheel gap is much larger than your rear wheel gap. I run a similar tire/wheel set-up, and I noticed the same thing on my type R. I found out that the dealership had left the transportation suspension blocks on. You might want to check and let me know! Either way, I love the set up!
@kakuja2977
@kakuja2977 Год назад
Love seeing a FL5 getting some action in the winter, I don't know though it's just I can't bear to put a Type R in those conditions (if I happen to own one in the future). I'm just beyond terrified that it would shorten it's lifespan by weathering and rust.
@Itsdjsigi
@Itsdjsigi 6 месяцев назад
It’s a type r brotha, it’s meant to be driven plus life is short.. enjoy your ride while you have it
@Rich_123
@Rich_123 Год назад
Am I understanding DWS tires correctly that once the 'S' in the tread block wears off they become 3-season tires, and once the 'W' wears off they are summer-only? Are they only good for the first winter as all-seasons?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Yep, that's the idea!
@GolDDarius
@GolDDarius Год назад
Looks like so much fun. I wish the price tag wasn’t so unreasonable.
@carguy-xv2cl
@carguy-xv2cl Год назад
Im thinking of getting 18s on my Accord Sport just because the ride is so bumpy and uncomfortable.
@saucyp123
@saucyp123 Год назад
Wheel + tire combo is killer! How bout that fat bike tho?!
@thepiratepenguin_
@thepiratepenguin_ Год назад
Those wheels must be so much nicer going over Michigan pot holes compared to the stock ones.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Definitely a nice difference in ride vs. the 19s!
@da-yh3uy
@da-yh3uy Год назад
my shop wouldn't ppf the black accents on the front... saying some stuff about the primer doing something to the plastic? is that a thing
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
There are templates for the black. My guy recommended it as it gets chipped and weathered too if unprotected.
@Slowcarfastbeans
@Slowcarfastbeans Год назад
I didn’t seem to have the same overwhelming performance that many others have been experiencing. The car liked to hydroplane at anything over 70mph in a couple inches of water. Tread depth was still around 6-7/32” remaining when I experienced the hydroplaning. I liked the Michelin Premier A/S better, which was almost as good in the dry, much better in the wet, and 10% better in fuel consumption rate.
@Dis2good
@Dis2good Год назад
You’re a good a** driver!
@samkrahn2867
@samkrahn2867 Год назад
Detroit resident here- where do you get your PPF done?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Clear Auto Bra Michigan - Larry in Plymouth does an awesome job
@flurpoid
@flurpoid Год назад
Sidewall looks way better than the rubber bands everything comes with nowadays.
@Parabloop3r
@Parabloop3r Год назад
Is there an increase in torque steer with the smaller wheels?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
It’s hard to tell, maybe a very slight increase but I kinda like it.
@adamek9750
@adamek9750 Год назад
do you think honda will make another type r or will everything be hybrids soon?
@aspecreviews
@aspecreviews Год назад
A Type-R hybrid would be awesome!
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
They say they'll keep making future generation Type Rs, what kind of hybrid/electric drivetrains they'll have going forward is up for debate. We'll find out eventually, but it's pretty safe to say that this is the last completely internal combustion Civic Type R.
@jimijj8325
@jimijj8325 Год назад
The road salt though 😱
@natebarry5553
@natebarry5553 Год назад
Some of us can't take 30% of the year off work due to salt being present on the road
@kendallkuhn512
@kendallkuhn512 Год назад
Which floor mats do you have in the car? Honda, weathertech, or something else?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
I decided to try out the Husky mats, fit seems to be a bit better than what I've experienced with weathertech, still not amazing. Should protect all the red carpet though, which is the goal!
@kendallkuhn512
@kendallkuhn512 Год назад
Thanks!! Hopefully getting a my own Type R in a couple months from my local dealer. Any value in getting an engine block heater for a Midwest winter climate?
@AntLive29
@AntLive29 Год назад
Well civics are good for the snow. Tiny budget friendly fwd car. No problems
@pantag2
@pantag2 7 месяцев назад
How do you deal with the TPMS sensors on the winter wheel/tire setup? Is there a way to disable it so it does not beep?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 7 месяцев назад
No TPMS on the Type R! Just wheel speed sensors
@pantag2
@pantag2 7 месяцев назад
Yes sorry, that is what i meant. So, i guess, if the R does not detect sensors, it does not bother you?
@valvodka
@valvodka 7 месяцев назад
TPMS is useless anyway. Most people should be looking at their tires routinely@@pantag2
@ValkenDnB
@ValkenDnB Год назад
Wish you would have gotten your hands on a 2022 wrx now that you have snow in your area.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
I think we have one on all seasons in a couple weeks, doubt we’ll have any snow to play in unfortunately
@ValkenDnB
@ValkenDnB Год назад
@@TheTopher you gotta hit that 180 again man 😂
@Vashed555
@Vashed555 Год назад
I’ve commented this before, but I have the same 18” tire setup on my 2020 FK8, and it was very nice in snow. They aren’t winter tires, but were more than stable enough for confident commutes in heavy (for the Midwest) snow. Comfort mode and those big old brakes are your friend.
@Vashed555
@Vashed555 Год назад
Also, FYI, make sure you disable traction control fully in +R - on the FK8 you have to hold the button down until it yells at you.
@caglioso
@caglioso Год назад
So are those snow tires or no?
@shaglioni
@shaglioni Год назад
They are not. He's using Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 Plus I believe. They are rated as Ultra High performance All Season tires.
@Gab75428
@Gab75428 Год назад
Saludos 🖖🏻
@K03sport
@K03sport Год назад
love the wheels and that's why I'm watching. Braid gets very little attention in the Subaru community. it's usual Enkei, Rays, Avid1, or ESR. the slightly extra sidewall doesn't look horrible. 265/35 is a popular Subaru size and curious how the 40 aspect ratio compares in price to the 35 aspect ratio (in 265 width). hopefully you'll have less vibrations w/your DWS06 than I did w/mine (235/45/17)....
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
The 40 sidewalls are actually less $, surprisingly - $225 vs $233 for the 35s.
@JimJuno
@JimJuno Год назад
I keep noticing those PS4 tires make so much noise on this car. So strange because on my car, they are pretty much the most quiet tyres I ever had, and they're F 265/30/20 R 275/30/20 Who can explain this. Maybe it's the weight factor. I drive a G30 5 Series
@ag6371
@ag6371 Год назад
7:58 *That one Civic at 3:00 AM*
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
😈
@haydenarter7505
@haydenarter7505 Год назад
We want to see some donuts lol
@ninja636stunta
@ninja636stunta Год назад
The car looked really bouncy when he was talking about comfort mode adaptive suspension. It almost seems like FK8 had better suspension but I haven’t drove FL5 yet. Any insights on this thought?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Definitely preferred the fk8 suspension. Comfort mode was tuned way better and +R wasn’t so unnecessarily bouncy. I’ll see how this setup handles once it gets warmer but very tempted to switch to coilovers once an updated adaptive damper bypass gets released (want to retain drive modes).
@ninja636stunta
@ninja636stunta Год назад
@@TheTopher Thanks for the reply. Your reviews are the best! Overall, do you think comfort mode is ok for daily driving? I’m just looking for a fun daily but want comfort. I won’t be tracking the car. Thanks.
@diallo1347
@diallo1347 Год назад
Can't hate on Topher and all the other Car RU-vid influencers who got fair deals on the Type R, but I wish the average buyer got that chance too.
@krustyk98
@krustyk98 Год назад
@thetopher Idk if you will see this but I am also getting a FL5 in a few weeks and will be getting rust coat and such protection with it. Could you recommend or give me a link to some Minnesota winter tires? As always love your videos! Always listen to you while working. ❤
@johnnybravo5044
@johnnybravo5044 Год назад
Bloody carpeting are going to age well.
@scotts2296
@scotts2296 Год назад
Nice to see one of these cars being used in the real world... You know 99% of them will sit in garages and almost never get driven...
@oswaldgobblepot
@oswaldgobblepot Год назад
does 17 inch fit for this car?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Nope, front Brembos are too big
@oswaldgobblepot
@oswaldgobblepot Год назад
@@wdnalo smaller and more narrow is better for winter
@patrickbateman7122
@patrickbateman7122 Год назад
Just gone back to fwd after years of gt86 & brz and come to the conclusion you just can't beat a rwd car.. 🤣
@BartlettRacing66
@BartlettRacing66 Год назад
I have the same tires on my STI, they're great. Haven't gotten much of a chance to test them in the snow this year though.
@lunisce
@lunisce Год назад
More than one reviewer buying this kinda confirms the last gen was too rice 😂
@Greekphysique22
@Greekphysique22 Год назад
I drive my DC2 Integra with 14” wheels and extra sidewall for these Detroit war ravaged roads
@reneng3345
@reneng3345 Год назад
Do 2023 accord please😢
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Coming Tuesday!
@WilliamLevesqueineX
@WilliamLevesqueineX Год назад
I dont understand why they have you do a pedal dance to actually turn off everything. In the VN you just press an easily accessible button three seconds and you're good to go, why cant every manufacturers just do that ? Especially on a freaking Type R. That said I'd expect it to handle snow quite similarly to the VN, still FWD but good traction and quite nice rotation on sweeping corners. VN has a handbrake tho :P
@jonboy602
@jonboy602 Год назад
Agree, it should be as easy as this.
@friznutzs
@friznutzs Год назад
Safari Type R???
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Hahah tempting but no
@moecamerashorts872
@moecamerashorts872 Год назад
You can’t pay me enough to live in Michigan 💀 that terrible weather would ruin my beautiful cars
@pan4632
@pan4632 Год назад
ngl, those adaptive dampers seem like they'd get annoying real fast.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
They are :/
@jakewoolfstyle
@jakewoolfstyle Год назад
This man has a BRZ and a Type R…I’m happy for him but sad for me
@AlexRamirez.-.
@AlexRamirez.-. Год назад
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@wheelwrightpl9429
@wheelwrightpl9429 Год назад
I don't think Krown rust control is needed on any modern vehicle, because they all have good rustproof steel. Also, they drill holes into the chassis, and fill it with oil, which then drips all over the place. Not a big fan of it.
@jonboy602
@jonboy602 Год назад
You clearly don't live in the rustbelt.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
New cars definitely hold off rusting for a few more years but eventually everything exposed to salt and the chemicals they use out here will rust (usually from the inside out where you can’t see it). It only takes about a year or two for steel suspension components to start rusting and seizing. The only thing I’ve seen that prevents it is krown or other thin oil based coatings. It’s the difference between zero rust and holes in the chassis after a decade (or less) of winter driving.
@Ben-bs4od
@Ben-bs4od Год назад
One could add a turbo kit to the Subaru RS hatch and have more fun than in the Civic Type R for almost half the price of the dealer inflated Type R. It would have more headroom, an automatic transmission, and all wheel drive!!!!! An Alfa Tonale Veloce PHEV has as much sportiness, equal torque and adjustable suspension, more room in the back, all wheel drive, muuuch better looks, interior, visibility, more quiet interior and much much better gas mileage. Plus, the resale on the Alfa will be garbage next year and a steal!!!!!!! Honda can screw themselves with the dealer markups. Will stick with my used Volvo V50.
@gabxln
@gabxln Год назад
RIP HONDA CIVIC
@jamesbali1300
@jamesbali1300 Год назад
I don't wanna be that guy, but : first 🌝
@uutube243
@uutube243 Год назад
When I lived in the northeast we took are nice cars off the road thanksgiving time and back on road April 1st. Why in the world would you ever drive that car year round in the snow? Buy a winter beater..
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
Tried the winter beater thing plenty of times and I’ve found it just costs more time and money in maintenance than I’m willing to spend. Also didn’t like driving an older/cheaper car that’s not as safe. It’s not rusting with the Krown treatment and I’d rather do that along with a few other things to prevent damage instead of dealing with a car that I don’t enjoy driving as much anyway. Life is short, drive your fun cars.
@PeteR90468
@PeteR90468 Год назад
@@TheTopher Other than the Krown rust proofing, PPF, and ceramic coating, what would you recommend to prevent damange from Michigan winters & salt. Fellow Michigander asking because I'm considering an Si or Type R in the next year or two.
@tdub25
@tdub25 Год назад
Bro if you doing mtb get a hitch or roof rack - putting greasy muddy bikes inside is not the move.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher Год назад
It’ll be fine - bought seat back protectors and a trunk mat.
@flyingsoul7147
@flyingsoul7147 Год назад
They ruined the type r
@Pethaho
@Pethaho Год назад
amazing vid as always, topher 🫡
@Whileweweresinners
@Whileweweresinners Год назад
What did you pay for it? 60k?
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