Your Deck Isn't Casual If You Play These Cards | Commander Clash Podcast 129 

I just wanna say that I've been loving the past month of podcasts. Between Family Feud, Smallest Hills you'll die on, and now this y'all have had super interesting topics that aren't just talking about what new cards are good and I'd love to see more of these podcasts

I think people have it backwards when they compare Mana Crypt and Sol Ring and say Mana Crypt is only excluded from casual circles because of its price tag / availability. I think that Sol Ring is only *included* in casual circles because of its price tag / availability. Sol Ring is banned in Legacy and restricted in Vintage! It's insanely powerful and considering it a casual card is one of the biggest pieces of wool to ever be pulled over the heads of commander players!

Casual IS NOT a power level, it's a deckbuilding and gameplay philosophy. How strong a card is in competitive is NOT the same as how strong a card is casually.

Tomer on basics: This week: not hating on anyone Last week: who are these animals that don't match their basics?!

For me as a struggling college student, mana crypt is not casual because when we sit down for a causal game of commander there's a kind of unspoken rule that sol ring is only fine because everyone has one. Thank you Richard for pointing out the "second sol ring" point.

I think of Imperial Seal and Cruel Tutor as cards that indicate something sweatier is going on. They aren't powering down their tutors for you, they're playing every tutor known to man if they have these.

Blood moon scales with the competitiveness level to a degree. I feel like blood moon has a higher chance of hosing people that bring decks full of duals, fetches, etc. In my experience the more casual the player is the more basics they play and less they care about blood moon.

Love the Cat Seth! Needs to make more guest appearances.

The main issue with most combos in commander is that they don't involve you establishing your board and introducing pieces that can be disrupted. Nor do they involve you expending resources to keep your opponent from rushing you down. They most often involve sitting there, doing nothing, complaining if anyone targets you, and then out of nowhere ending a game you didn't participate in otherwise. This is usually what I notice with infinite turns. Magistrate's Scepter + Emry + Coretapper is a cool, disruptable combo that I don't normally find people annoyed by, particularly since each individual piece works with other moving parts. The guy who sits there doing nothing but complaining and pops off a two-card combo with three counters' worth of protection is more the one that gets the ire... and the more common combo munchkin.

They should have Seth, Tomer and Richard create a casual artifact commander deck that Crim then plays after swapping in KCI.

Casual players cry about every card that stops them from winning (even though they're definitely not competitive players themselves who want to win 🙄) so none of these cards are casual.

I think the problem with "Is X card casual or not?" as a question is kind of hiding the forest behind the trees. There are more buckets than "Casual" and "Competitive". Boiling things down into binaries always shows how many outliers there truly are, which goes toward showing why binaries are almost always inaccurate.

LOVE Richards points on time equity. I've taken apart tons of decks because it was basically solitaire, yet those decks weren't hated by my friends. The minute you cast a Karn's Temporal Sundering though the whole table will lose their minds

34:36 The joy on everyone's face and Tomer's laugh as Richard describes Blood Mooning ppl irl 😂😂😂

I think the thing with a lot of these cards is like, it's not that you *can't* put them in a casual deck. No one can stop you. But what will happen is that occasionally with no control on your part your deck will basically shoot up six power levels out of nowhere. You build your deck to be competitive with your friends decks and most of the time you're on even footing, but then there will be one game where you're just like "oops, guess I win with this super unfair thing". And you can decide if that's an experience you like, but that is the effect of putting fast mana/underworld breach etc in your deck

Your words about Ad Nauseum wound me. I run it casually in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk lifegain deck, where I can casually gain that life back

I can never say 1 individual card makes your deck non-casual. However I would say what kind of "packages" does your deck have. These "packages" can either be very powerful synergies or very effecient combos but a generic term for about 3 or more cards that do something you want extremely well.

Absolutely no disrespect here, but has anyone else noticed that Richard is able to say some words without his lips touching when they should? At the beginning of the video after he shares the most liked comment from last week he says "You gotta take the victories when they come" but his lips don't touch on the M for "come". I have noticed it in previous videos and I don't know if its video lag or if Richard is just a wizard. lol Great video as always guys.

From the whole conversation, I think it's clear that no one card by itself breaks casual. Crossing the line from casual to competitive is based on the entire deck and overall factors such as fast mana ramp design, tight integration of card interaction and potentially overall cost of the deck are the real issues.

Seth has to be joking with the “it was in a precon so it must be casual.” Cards like Fierce Guardianship and its cycle are in there. The myriad of hated cards from the brawl deck like arcane signet, korvold and chulane are also in precons, from a weaker format.

Dockside is an interesting conversation. Ive had it in casual games and many times it dies in hand because it might only get 1 or two treasures. Its broken in high power+ because everyone has fast mana. usually in casual its ramp and land drops and 3 mana rocks.

holy cow all these cards are showing up in our local casual decks! Im starting to genuinely reconsider our definition of casual lol

Thanks for the random cat moment during extra turn talk. 🎉

I feel the most missed question about this… is what does casual even mean?

So my coin flip deck with never be casual because of mama crypt.

High power casual is a thing, this isnt cedh but is different than casual. High power casual decks can feature cards that could be in cedh decks, but also includes cards that would be bad cards except for the synergy with the decks that would not make a cedh deck.

I have a story about an extra turn spell used kinda casually. A buddy of mine was showing us his deck list, asking for suggestions, and extra turn spells came up when we all saw Temporal Extortion. He's running a dimir commander that's leaning heavily blue, so we suggest some blue spells. I remember even listing why the blue spells would be better, like not having a built-in way to counter it, less restrictive on coloured pips (Temporal Extortion being 4 black pips), etc etc. The next time we played, he played Temporal Extortion on turn 2 (with a Dark Ritual), just for a land drop and an "I told you so"

"The issue is never with the tutor, but with what the tutor can get you." -Rey Skywalker

Consistency and speed to win/be winning is how I define the difference between cedh and casual. That’s why instead of power level, I ask opponents “what turn does your deck want to win or what turn does your deck normally win?” If they are saying turn 5 or below I’d probably consider it cedh. But that’s just me. There are so many variables and factors that impact a player’s perspective of competitiveness vs. casual. A dude pulled out a “casual” deck and won turn three at my lgs so what do I know.

I'll die on the hill that free spells are not casual.

As a primarily cEDH player I always find listening to primarily casual players have these conversations utterly fascinating.

I think for those to add just a mana crypt makes your deck a tier above casual but under CEDH due to the fact that one piece of additional fast manner is not going to turn your deck in a complete 180 just by adding that one card into your deck if I would’ve put this in ur dragon, my deck would be a bit stronger in the sense that I could play. Dragons may be a turn earlier than most, but the deck strategy takes a while to get to where needs to be.

The crew has a pretty good read on most things so I'm not going to quibble about individual cards. But overall the question has a little bit of a false premise in terms of individual card power level defining a deck. Roughly I think about it in terms of payoffs, enablers, and interaction. Your interaction is generally only as good as the other decks at the table (eg. If all other decks have weak payoffs your counters are weaker), but having a base level is still useful to protect and disrupt. The real power level of a deck comes down to the power and number of payoffs and enablers. For example, Mana Crypt might be just as strong as Sol Ring, but having *both* in your deck definitely raises the power level. But, if you only have weak payoffs (Like 1990s Dwarf tribal) Having strong enablers is offset by the available payoffs. This is why we see folks dropping fast mana and tutors to "cool down" decks, they still want to play with higher power payoffs ("big boom -> big fun." - Timmy 2024). There are a few cards that are "engines on a stick," and double-duty as enabler and payoff. But largely, any single card is not "casual" or "competitive". I like to play at lower power levels with quirky deck requirements. I don't mind when someone runs Mana Crypt to enable old/strange cards. I do mind when the table is chill/casual and high power enablers are used to push out high power finishers (like demonic tutor into sanguine bond + exquisite blood).

The thing about fierce guardianship or force of will is really the person playing the control deck is the person playing against it. You have to count their mana and predict what they might do and a zero mana counter just defies any amount of perfect planning

This particular episode is one of my favorites. These takes are hotter than the surface of the sun compared to the hot takes episode lol.

Mana crypt isn't the same as sol ring though. The fact that sol ring costs 1 and mana crypt costs 0 does make a pretty significant difference in your early turn if you have it in your starting hand. Later on it is obviously not really a significant difference, but it definitely is at the start of the game. The fact that you can play a mana dork like BoP on turn one alongside a mana crypt makes it better than sol ring. It can get you your commander one turn faster.

Mana crypt and sol ring are banned from our casual table. basically your can bring any level of power to the kitchen table - but dont be wondering why you got a 3v1.

An important detail about Expropriate you all overlooked is that it suffers from the "Rhystic Study" issue where certain players can ruin the game for everyone. The correct thing to do 99% of the time for Expropriate is as you stated, the caster takes an extra turn and everyone else gives up a permanent...but some players for whatever reason (they are salty/stupid/etc) will refuse to give up a permanent and instead let that player take ANOTHER extra turn. Once the first person has done this it also makes other people more likely to just let that player take another turn. It sounds ridiculous but I have seen it happen more than once and it is one of the reasons I despise the card. It almost always results in kingmaker situations that leave no one satisfied with the result of the game.

With mana crypt+cultivate/kodama you could go easily to five mana second turn, sol ring turn1 doesn´t leave you with colored mana to play T1 ramp.

"In Commander everyone should have an equal amount of playtime." Imoti left the chat.😅

Great video. Today I learned just how obliviously casual I am as a player. I've been playing my Syr Ginger deck for a few months and I never knew how many combos existed with artifacts. I did not build this deck with any combos in mind, nor do I play it for combos but after checking I found out it has 18 combos. Most of them for infinite mana and tokens 😅. I may have to rethink my strategy with this deck.

One major point related to price tag is this, when you see a high dollar card like 200$+ or similar you can safely assume that all upgrades below 200$ it's also included. Except the lucky ones that manage to open that on pack, they bought that card or its a proxy. If they bought, means its one of its latest additions to the deck and if it was a proxy expect all pricey cards as well.

It's so interesting hearing your all's prospective of casual vs what the command zone deems casual along with the one graphic that shows power levels.

'I wish this (Stasis) was casual' - What Richards says ✔

Mana Crypt is not casual because of the price paired with the redundancy of fast mana rocks like Richard pointed out.

I love that other people did the mismatched basics move! I also did that to one of my decks, and I might do the same in another soon : )

Necro isn't tuned for a 40 life format, it's too damn good with that amount of life.

I exclude sol ring myself. I don't play enough games to participate in invalidating the few i play with a god opening.

The reason force of will etc are high power is because as Richard rightly says, counterspells are inherently overpowered. The only thing that keeps them in check is that they can be telegraphed - if they leave up blue mana you know they might have one. Force of will etc break that and make blue unpredictable and therefore much more powerful. Also a two mana counterspell ends up costing you much more than two mana because you potentially have to leave that mana up for multiple turns (unless you're just desperate to fire it off, which is a waste), and you could have used that mana to build your board etc instead. Free counterspells cost you no mana at all on any turn, so you're free to build your board and just counter a spell at any time, which is super busted.

Richard is right! (written only so you read this comment ;P) One thing I hate the most about magic players is their unconditional hate of counterspells and land distruction. We start with the easy one: land distruction is the answer to land ramp. If there is no answer, land ramp will always win. I challenge you to play (not between each other, but in casual pods with random people) landfall and land ramp decks, and note the win percentage. They are high, because there is no answer. And in the worst case, in commander you have the ability to recast your commander over and over every turn, so there is not the drawback of "drawing ramp on turn 10, I have nothing else to do". Counterspells are the doom blade of blue. They may be more flexible/powerful (cause they stop etb and hit on several card types) but they have the drawback of needing to be casted in a limited time frame, when the spell is on the stack. Your opponent resolved a coat of arms, they are attacking you with 10 thopters, you draw a card thanks to Magda: oh, it's a force of will!! Congrats you lost the game

This was a lot of fun to watch for discussion and banter.

Ok I'll make the case for casual stasis. While most stasis decks are full on stax decks I used to own what I would call a 7 power level stasis deck. The point of the deck was not to play stax but to play chronatog to skip all of my turns and let the table draw their deck. It was understood that it was my win condition and it required 3-4 cards (stasis, orb of dreams, chronatog and usually gigadrowse).

I find it wild you guys consider your decks mid power level

Hey guys you slided the discussion from specific cards to combo theme, have a pod for that discussion

Maybe your views are a little skewed on blood moon because you play higher power decks with beefy mana bases, because in actual casual play there are a lot more basics and so it has a much narrower effect. Blood moon can be annoying for unlucky 3 color decks and 4-5 color decks for sure, but it doesnt keep most people from playing when they play more basics. Blood moon is actually a great equalizer for budget decks, because mana bases are by far the most expensive portion of decks in commander and blood moon hits the more espensive cards way harder.

If you’ren’t playing cEDH, it’s casual

Free counterspells are not about effect, it's about reading the boardstate - in a casual game, I should be able to see that if everyone is completely tapped out, then their ability to interact is almost nil. If a player with zero mana open is able to completely stop me in my tracks using a card with a very universally useful effect, that doesn't feel casual.

I actually removed Ashnods Altar, Phyrexian Altar and KCI from all my decks to not combo off by accident. It happened in every deck that included those cards. So I totally agree with Crim on that topic.

This is my first time watching a Commander Clash video after years of podcasts and no one looks like how I expected. I'm destroyed.

I always see this take about mana crypt is fine because sol ring has been widely accepted as fine. The truth of the matter is that both of the cards are some of the strongest cards that have ever been printed into magic, and personally I think they are both equally bad for the format. People see sol ring in 86% of decks and go yeah its a casual card then but no one seems to want to recognize that it is literally on par with some of the most powerful cards ever printed, considered by some to be literally the most powerful card ever printed. They should BOTH be banned from casual and even opt tables. Cedh is whatever, but the play pattern both sol ring and mana crypt bring about is miserable for both the caster and their opponents.

Deck is not casual if you play island 🏝️

This discussion is more like an evaluation of card power. The definition of "non-casual" seems to be either a) always super-high powered [sol ring, mana crypt, dockside] OR b) build around cards that can only be unplayable or broken with no in-between [underworld breach, thoracle] OR c) taboo in casual [stax] But even with this kind of definition, some of the choices were questionable. Force of Will and Fierce Guardianship can fit into any blue deck across the spectrum. They're amazing cards but don't develop your board state or win the game in any way by themselves. They're fine in casual as long as you're not using them to force through a 2-card combo. Expropriate is literally a casual-only card. In sweaty metas, that card is uncastable 99% of the time (and other extra turn spells are only played by specific commanders (narset for example) or final fortune in mono-red and 5c good-stuff builds)

What brand do you use for the mtggoldfish sleeves?

The only way mana crypt is casual is if you’re running a deck specifically around flipping coins. Being able to run both sol ring and mana crypt just provides too much potential take off power.

All cards are designed and played in a casual format, it’s the intent of the deck not the card that determines if it’s casual or not

What about smothering tithe? Does that fit in the same realm as Rhystic Study because it’s accepted or more like dockside but accrued over time?

I would argue the fairest 0-cost counterspell is actually Pact of Negation, because it still costs 5 on your next turn or you lose. It's definitely the most casual-friendly of the 0-costs.

I have a casual deck that runs Sol Ring plus Mana Crypt and a deck that runs neither which are the same power level. Casual is based on context, and as long as you're not winning because you played 1 or 2 cards with your Commander up I would consider it casual

No one card will determine whether or not a deck is casual or not especially in an 100 card singleton format.

My Auntie Blyte deck proudly plays Blood Moon!!! And mana crypt and ancient tomb [for obvious reasons for those two]. When my friends edgar markov deck got beat the other day by early blood moon, yeah not feeling so bad I dunno. Are mono red decks ever high power enough to not blood moon? Back to basics is soooo much worse!

I think this helps show the dissociation between casual and Cedh. Its not an individual card that determins power level, its a set of cards, intent to win, and piloting. An Ad Naus can draw 20 cards, but you need the resourses after to play the win. Cedh end goal is to win. And the pilot of the deck has to know their deck and roughly the opposing decks. If a untrained pilot runs a deck its clunky and not optimal.

I once had a person tell me " i dont play at that power level" in a conversation about shock lands.

Free interaction can only be casual if it cannot be used for free during your turn. If your free interaction can be used to protect a win con, its not casual, because it forces the table to purchase their own free interaction to be able to interact with you.

I use Ad Nauseum in my Kambal deck because of how much life I end up getting - I don't usually end up winning afterwards though I'm just in a good spot. I wouldn't consider my deck as high power as some of the other cards mentioned here though

Thoracle has a well earned reputation. With things like Dimir Inverter and Doomsday combo in 60 card formats, it's hard to justify as a casual card. Not after it became a staple level card in 3 non Commander formats and getting both Balustrade Spy and Inverter of Truth banned in Pioneer.

I think blood moon is fine. Either you're playing a higher power level of casual where the stronger cards are more valid to run and there are more non-basics to punish - or you're playing a lower power level of casual where there are significantly more basics to be found and blood moons power level crashes as a result

In my opinion, it depends with how much mana on the field the deck can win, if it takes 10-15 mana, it doesn't matter what cards you have in the deck, it's a casual deck; If it can win with 4-5 mana with junk cards, then it's not. As a bonus if a win condition can only be prevented by counter spells and not removal or board state, it ups the power because it limits against what deck it can be played.

The sheer opportunity advantage you gain using free counterspells far outweigh any downside of losing a card and a life. The reason Force of Will is so much less casual than Counterspell is because the counter player has to make a real choice in their recource management when leaving up Counterspell. Yes it costs you a card to use Force, but it doesn't make you leave up mana you could of used on other spells, which is a huge difference. You still always have the option to counter, but without the downside of needing to leave that mana open each turn you think you might need it. And that doesn't even begin to cover the difference in telegraphing a counterspell with two blue up vs being tapped out and seemingly out of answers. I think it's a huge slap in casual games (especially if you are a newer player) to correctly wait until an opponent is tapped out, go for the big play, and get forced anyways. Besides, it's casual? What is so important you absolutely HAVE to ensure you answer it without fail. If your opponents are actually playing casual decks, then they shouldn't be playing spells that make you feel you have to have an answer up at all times without fail regardless of what mana is open. If your casual deck might be about to lose to another player, leave up the Mana for the interaction. Ultimately you cannot really sum up if a spell is competitive vs casual simply by what it does. The opportunity cost, and how much the player using it actually sacrifices to play it both in deck building and their gameplay tempo, weigh heavily in determining what cards should stay at the competitive tables.

I think the idea that is prevailing is that no single card will make a deck competitive, it’s always a combination of all of the cards in the deck.

I think there are many cards that are "price banned", as they are super expensive and thus rarely seen. While I agree that mana crypt is as strong as sol ring, casual and budget are hard to seperate. When I spend hundreds of moneyz on the "best"/most desired cards my deck will probably be stronger than the decks of anyone who doesn't (not talking about building jank on purpose). But imo I have no problem if someone plays a mana crypt if they happen to pull it.

I love topics like this because it really highlights that "casual" is a subjective category that depends on what kind of Magic each individual wants to play. I do want to say that one thing I disagree with that is said a lot in conversations like this, fast mana isn't what makes a cEDH deck. Fast mana is part of the equation, but the intentionality matters more than the mana rocks. Running a lot of fast mana to run out a Vizzerdrix isn't cEDH for example. Using fast mana to power out a bomberman combo that leads to infinite damage in your Tymna/Jeska deck is 100% cEDH. There isn't a static set of characteristics that separate cEDH from casual, it's all the micro optimizations that lead to consistent and efficient win cons that really define cEDH. I bring this up mostly because we want people trying to get into cEDH to have a good experience and setting someone up for failure by telling them to just jam fast mana into their high powered casual deck.

On Thassa's Oracle: If you're not in black and are running Thassa's Oracle and want to combo with it, using Leveler is working a little bit too hard for cEDH players. Try Paradigm Shift, instead! XD If the storm count is high enough, you can also Brain Freeze yourself!

Mana Crypt - In and of itself, the card is perfectly fine in casual circles, but it all depends on the other 99 cards in your deck. If you are playing a Turn 3 combo deck, it isn't a "casual" deck no matter whether it has Mana Crypt or not, but on the flipside if you are playing Dragon Tribal beats then Mana Crypt isn't really problematic. Underworld Breach - I look at this card the same way. If you are using it as a draw spell or a way to recover from a board wipe in a mono-red Goblins deck then it's fine. If you are using it to storm the table out on turn 4, then its not. Dockside Extortionist - Again, if you aren't abusing it then its fine. Ad Nauseam - I agree that this is not really a casual card. If you just want to pay life to draw cards, there are so many better ways to do it UNLESS you are specifically doing it to draw your deck. In the case of Ad Nauseam, there really isn't a casual use for this. Force of Will/Fierce Guardianship - These are fine. In some ways, there are very few removal/counter cards that shouldn't be considered casual given that most casual circles don't run enough removal and interaction makes games interesting. Stasis - No. Absolutely NOT casual. As a player who loves Stasis and played it "back in the day", I can honestly say that this card has no place in casual EDH. Blood Moon - No. I'm fine with running a Strip Mine, Wasteland, or Dust Bowl to potentially get rid of a single problematic land, but mana screwing people isn't really fun for anyone. Necropotence - I think its fine, but again it depends more on what you are doing with it. Gaea's Cradle - This is borderline. On the surface its fine, especially in a meta that is sweeper heavy. I will say though that getting Cradle going for tons of mana can really swing a game, and most players aren't playing Cradle to only tap it for 1-2 mana. KCI - No. There are no ways to use this that don't involve infinite combos. Metalworker is fine; its a one-time burst of mana in a relatively fragile creature. Thassa's Oracle - I think you know if you are using this as a combo finisher (not casual) or as just a dude in your Merfolk or Wizard tribal deck. Expropriate - If you are paying full price for this, then its fine.

You guys should really do a podcast rating all borderless land treatments!!

On the issue of mana crypt: even if Wizards printed Sol Ring 2 at uncommon, playing that would still be sweaty/uncasual. You only get to play one sol ring and that's already one too many.

I agree with all these. Good job guys!

The ultimate guard question of the week is hilarious

I feel like Krim has the best approach where like basically if you know your deck is gonna be heavily combo based, like be up front and you can still have a fun game with everyone else knowing that. That's like the definition of casual imo

The difference between CEDH and EDH is that in CEDH you must play every turn like it is your last. I've seen more than one CEDH game where someone won on turn one, before anyone else had a turn. Every turn could be your last - ecen turn zero. With that in mind, a Sol Ring for free is so much better than one you have to pay even one Mana for.

The big difference between Sol Ring and Mana Crypt I feel, is that Sol Ring at least uses a resource to cast, whereas the Crypt does not. Meaning you can literally ramp up to three mana on turn one without having invested a single extra mana.

For me when I build a casual deck I exclude fetch lands, mana crypt, mana vault, jeweled lotus, tutors unless they’re things like rampant growth or are used for flavor like wizard cycling for example. I also tend to avoid auto includes like rhystic study, doc , smothering tithe and the green enchantment that lets you draw additional cards if you pay life for it mainly cuz of budget reasons but now it’s not too expensive I might pick one or two up. I also try to avoid infinite combos now of days cuz I really like longer games

Blood Moon is extremely fair, it just needs to be more normalized so that people actually run basics in their deck. Dying to Blood Moon because you don't have basics is like dying to tokens because you don't run wraths.

Back the basics, blood moon and ruination should be played more in casual make people respect basic lands more.

Force is very good in "powerful casual" imo (7-8ish) No infinite combo in my playgroup mostly but sometimes it's important to stop a aminatou's augury or breach the multiverse or something

I think that the point that needs to be mad is less about whether or not a card is casual and more about whether the decks you find said cards in are casual. You can play any card in a casual deck, but I feel like cards like mana crypt and underworld breach don't show up in someone's jank Alesha deck. They show up in someone's Korvold deck. Part of that is due to cost and rarity. If I've got 1 $180 mana crypt I'm more likely to play it my favorite tuned deck than I am in my $40 jank-o-rama

Blood Moon is fine, people need to learn that basics are a thing

Price to entry absolutely factors into being casual or not. It's NOT casual to drop $100+ on ONE CARD, especially if it's to straight up boost the power of your deck lol EDIT: agree with Richard on the redundancy as a point of power for sure

Yup, sol ring = mana crypt. What’s NOT casual (which was highlighted by Brian Kibler in a video not so long ago) is the fact that now you have 2 sol rings in your deck if you add a mana crypt alongside your default sol ring. Richard is sooo right

I think it being 0 mana, a shit ton of money, and the fact that it makes the effect more common in your deck. Sol ring is every decks lottery ticket, whereas the more you have of that lottery ticket the less casual it feels. (The 0 mana part rly only matters on turn 1 tho, but when someone goes Mana Crypt > Talisman > Rampant Growth feels super unfair even if its not rly that bad in the long run.)

Mana Crypt is in no way casual. Why? You have to spend Mana on Sol Ring. Mana Crypt you can play for free.