Z06 VS GT350 Track Battle! 

Why would anybody ever have 245’s on the rear of a c5z.

Im real confused as to why the C5Z had 245's on it, front or rear. Mine is stock sized with 265's up front, and 295's in the rear.

Old video. Still dumb. 245 rears is as stupid as it gets. A C5/6/7 will shellac a GT350 on track every time. And they knew so handicap the Vette.

Great quality content, looking forward to seeing more from you guys.

After selling my 09 z06 I miss driving... I was looking at boss 302, and the gt350 but then remembered there is a c5z06 at a much lower price. Plus having owned a 2002 c5 I have a bit of an idea maintenance wise. The C5 is still a beast of a car even for new sports cars.

Amazing video. Thanks for sharing

Great comparison video.

Now this is the kind of channel I needed!

Freakin awesome video thanks for all the tech knowledge my man.

this is exactly the question I have been mulling. I just bought a pair of rears for the front and was going to try to shoehorn 335's on the rears, but having gotten input from a real racer, decided to go with 315 square, R888Rs' Thank you so much for the data confirming this setup.

Appreciated the scientific approach. I could close a little bit on the GT350 on Nitto NT05's. Am now trying 295 square Michelin PS2's. It's an '01, with maybe 25-30K track miles on it. Been using cheapo tires, so now lookng forward to how it drives on the PS2's. from your data, looks like I'll be fine. thanks.

Just caught this video. Great piece. I remember when the C5 Z06 came out I was stricken. Shorter trans gearing for track work, titanium exhaust welded in an Argon atmosphere so as to not weaken the welds, screaming LS6. I was about 27. Now in my 40’s the GT350 is also an amazing machine. And I’ve owned 4 Stangs in my life. But the C5 Z06 is nicely affordable, and with the right mods can keep up with today’s latest toys. My 13 GT is just about paid off, think it’s time to find a Z to add to the stable.

Love seeing a C5Z still killing it against a car that has newer tech and a much higher price tag.

Tire to weight based on what? Advertised size numbers or actual contact patch area???

Seeing a C5 Z comes stock with a 295 rr tire it is easy to see why a 245 on the rear had it sliding all over.

In real life, both cars set up properly, that Mustang has nothing for that old Vette, nothing, other than slicks the best tire for that Vette are Good Year F1 R compound, fastest treaded tire for that car, they did everything they could to make sure and hold the Vette back and give the Mustang a chance, don't even get me going on durability issues, those Vettes are bullet proof, best track car you can buy for the money.

Tire to weight ratio?? Omg. You can't simply take the difference in weight between the cars and then multiply that ratio to the tire width. That makes ABSOLUTELY NO sense. For beginners the relationship between tire width and grip is not linear. I cringed so hard when I saw that

You were saying that it would even be faster than a GT350R? Is there a way to try this out? I’m skeptical a bit on that statement.

great comparison review.

Like most i dont grasp thr concept of crippling the Z06s traction for the sake of the weight to contact patch ratio...the car was designed to operate on a certain size tire, its like taking a Huracan and Tracking it against a crown vic and putting a parachute on the huracan then posting numbers saying the vic was faster because they had the same aero resistance..

This is a cool channel!! Great video too!

Rental Car chassis versus a Dedicated Track Car chassis.... Good Review, Corvettes are great bang for your buck. Do a C6Z next!

where are you guys??? No more vids??

So as someone with Conti DW's in a C5Z, are the tires that bad? They've seemed fine so far, but that is of course just daily use and no track. I'm probably missing something, but it seems counter intuitive to put smaller tires on a car like the C5Z. Is there some benefit to this?

Why not do the test stock for stock with 265/295s on the Z06 and the stock width on the GT350 with the same tire? This to me is a test with too many extraneous variables.

he sold the GT350, didn't he?

Imagine complaining about massive oversteer on a car you put 245 front/245 rear tires on when it was designed to have 265 front/295 rears. Can't make that up

Great vid. New sub

How about trying a corvette that is a little closer to the same year as the mustang ?

Excellent

What a joke, the mustang weighs more so the corvette has to use tiny tires?? This is a waste of time, No one has ever ran those size tires on a vette.

the corvette is one helluva car, one can only imagine how the technology has progressed

I threw you a subscribe...I like the vid! I relocated from Pa 2 yrs ago and live about 35min south of Road Atlanta. I built one off forced induction systems for 15 yrs in Pa, but upon relocating here, decided to return my C5Z to it's roots a bit. I have currently adapted the C7Z front aero and am fabricating a slightly widened custom rear over-fender and will run a square 18x11 with 295 MPSS's. My goal was to be able to rotate the tires for wear, and also get rid of a bit of the inherent push. I have Oconnell adjustable bars on it also, so I can dial in a little push for safety if need be. This video was pretty spot on and a great comparison that you don't see too often...which is, the new weapons, versus some old seasoned good cars, if even slightly modified. Would really like to see the comparison on the typical road racer setup of C5Z rear rims on four corners with some MPSS's versus the GT350.

I've always loved the C5's and for the cost of one now, it would be hard to beat as a track car. I was really close to getting a GT350 but could justify the $70k. This pretty much validates what I thought, it comes down to the driver.

tires are handling, the key. completely compromised the balance and handling of vette for sake of weight .

Hmmm...am I missing something, but is it a valid comparison with 2 different drivers? Shouldn’t it be one driver driving both cars.

You go in talking about comparing performance per dollar, then change to tiny tires? Next, compare my apple to your orange.

6 years later, and this video still pisses me off… apples to oranges with a bite taken out of the apple.

I'd be interested in the comparison with the same tires, but in stock sizes on each car.

I would love to see a c5 z06 vs a standard ls3 c6 review

C5z's seem to be getting hyped which is going to inflate the value. Couldn't you just get a base C6 for cheaper?

You can’t compare 2 different tires. Putting on a Hoosier A7 on either car will destroy the other. Doesn’t prove anything.

Wouldn't it be accurate to compare the prices of both when new?

zo6 came with 295 in rear not 245

I think you should have driven each others car for a couple of laps. Then compared those times.

Would it be possible to curl your baseball cap a bit more?. Dont think it had enough..

The weight difference is too great but I’d still get the gt350 because of its uniqueness and it would be faster than most aftermarket cars if supercharged or turbocharged

315s square will fit on factory wheels ? tf?! o.O

Try it again against a C6 Z06.

I understand the goal of the 245s but whos putting buick century tires on a car that came with much wider tires from the factory

Add me bud. I also very much enjoyed this review. Now what about when you add slight power mods, hmmmmmm.

I drove the GT350. Its a dog down low and needs to be spun very high in the rpm band.I would stick with the GT500 anyday. Very loud and attracts a lot of attention from cops in order to stay in the heart of the power band. For 5k you can get a used supercharger kit and bigger injectors and run 7-8 lbs on the stock motor for that c5 and rock that stangs world. Swap over to c6zo6 sway bars and shocks or Bilsteins . Without tubbing the rear 305's are best you are going to fit on a C5. Use Michelin sport cup 2 or Nitto - NT01 if you want to rock the track.

does he plan on doing any tuning to the gt350?

maybe a wing will help

God I love Road Atlanta

the 18x10.5 square setup works really well for a budget setup. Here is a video of my old C5 at NCM on 18x10.5 rears square setup with 295 MPSS's. This car does have a front splitter and rear wing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rZKKkYyrWEg.html It would demolish the GT350.

i run a 245 on my e36 with 150whp wtf

Dude put 245's on the vette compared to 305's on the nut stain ,and the nut stain has more power,smh

Interesting from a scientific point of view, but, from a pragmatic point of view, this is a rather silly comparison overall with 245 square setup. Amazing what the old C5 Z06 can do!

Lame. The Z06 is the Mack idk what this proves. The car wasn’t designed for the small tires. Just why. That’s rhetorical... I read comments

C6 Z06 though

WHY put a smaller tire on the z06? That's really stupid!! Why not just test the GT 350 against another GT 350 if you want to make them the "same"?

Why any self-respecting mustang owner want to race a neutered corvette, is beyond me. The next video that this channel does, will be a comparison of a lotus Elise on donut tires, racing a mustang fox body.

My zo6 would flyby this mustang

But the GT 350 , is almost 650 Pounds Heavier., Shave some weight ,then you compare it again.

Just the sound of the 5.2l dual overhead cam flat plain crank v8 is worth it over the vette. trully a unique engine compared to a traditional pushrod, cross plane v8.

How embarrassing for the Mustang.

So moral of the story is buy a old c5z06 with r comps and beat the 70k mustang

Pero el mustang esta mas nuevo que el corbette

This is just a mustang lover he’s bias just look up professional times on track and compare that more then this with to diff drivers

The only reason why the vette is cheaper is because they devaluate 😂 not the gt350 tho they stay close to what they where sold brand new🤷🏻‍♂️ corvettes are more expensive when brand new

It's the 700 lbs of weight.

It's embarrassing that thec5 is even close.

need to compare against tesla model s or model 3

I have a C6 Z06 and a GT350R, I am pretty sure my C6 Z06 will thrash the GT350R on a track day, however I really like driving the GT350R more, maybe because it’s new and the Z06 is 11 years old now.

245's are the wrong size obviously, also the 315's on the Z06 wouldn't Destroy the 350, closer but put a real driver in both cars and the 350 will edge it out.

BS the driver is clearly making a majority of the difference.

Wow, poor mustang. Imagine putting it against a C7 z06. It would get slaughtered. xD

Put a wing on the z06 and it would kill that mustang.

I think there's some time to be made up if the GT350 owner wasn't (even if just a little) worried about wrecking it. There's a big difference in driving a $60,000 new car vs a $20,000 old car. Unless you have throw away money, but then these wouldn't be the cars you'd be driving.

I believe a c6 zo6 would be the best choice for the money if you can trust the ls7 that is.

The tire rationale is baloney. Let the Z06 run as it was meant to same as the Ford. The C5 is a far better track weapon than that fat-ass Mustang.

Dude i kill mustangs all day long w/ my 1.6 L civic hb!

Excuses from a vette owner....

GM power no joke mustang know since use ls1 engine power the mustangs

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Really a old ass vet against a 350gt

This is the biggest waste of time and makes zero sense. So you ruined a corvette’s handling on purpose and then did a thorough video explaining the insanity. I couldn’t bare watching all of this.

but the comparison is a stock vs stock car.....bye bye vette....oB

Do you have to modify the Z06 to run with the GT350. LOL poor bow tie boys.

It’s all on the drivers, I have a gt350 and that year z06 can’t keep up at all.

Laguna Seca official track times to use as a barometer- C5 ZO6 Steve Millen: 1:57.73 in the wet. How wet, who knows. 20 seconds slower wet? I doubt it. BOSS 302 Laguna Seca Randy Pobst: 1:43.00 C6 ZO6 Driver Unknown: 1:40.09 Nissan GT-R Driver Unknown: 1:40.45 BOSS 302 Laguna Seca Driver Unknown: 1:39.50 Camaro ZL1 Randy Pobst: 1:39.98 Corvette ZR1 Driver Unknown: 1:38.70 GT350R Randy Pobst: 1:36.11 Other cars running faster in the 1:38's are- ZR1, CTS-V (GenIII), Stingray, F12 Berlinetta. That's some stout company...for a 'Mustang.' The production car track record is 1:28.65 set by Randy Pobst (Viper ACR of course). On track days I've been involved in (either as a spectator or driver) the GT350(R or non-R) is a tough pass. It really makes me question the zest and or competence of the driver in the GT350. I mean, it's laid official track times faster than the 458 Italia. Now, you're basically telling me that a C5 ZO6 will run with a 458?? The results of this testing appears to be skewed.

Buy a new vette and quit with the excuses

Well it is a coupe vs a 2 door car that doesnt even have a trunk. 🤔

seriously the quantity of the gt 350 is 3x better.... and so is the motor. the technology is what you're paying for along with the quality. not a great comparison

NOTHING NEW HERE WE ALL KNOW FORD SUX

87-93 Foxbody mustang with full Steeda suspension with 400hp would rape the corvette on the 1/4 and the road coarse.

Nah the tree fiddy with a proper driver will eat that poor handling gm

Video sucks comparing a almost 20 year difference in technology sorry this video sucks big time GM would be impressed ? Hell No

GT350R is a better machine all around right from the factory.