So did jacoby or however jalens partners name is spelled and Kendrick Perkins. And nick Wright even had the clippers losing to the nuggets I think he was the only one.
Steph Curry had them going to the Finals, although he was wrong about the Bucks making it. For anyone wondering when he said that, it was in an interview on the All the Smoke podcast.
agree. but they are only human. and the sports analysts is just a nick name. They only can talk talk talk and share their own opinion. its not the fact, its only their own assumption on things.
@@socialnetworkentrepreneur882 true. Id understand picking the Clippers before the season started, but once the regular season finished and even after the first round, it was clear that the Lakers were a clearly superior team
Kawhi definitely needs to take this "L". The Lakers championship doesn't warrant an asterisk. If anything, it was a more difficult championship because both the Bucks and the Lakers worked their butts off all year to get home court advantage, and that was completely tossed away because of Covid.
Yup, Lebron has always said that the crowd are a big part of his love of the game, Kobe dared to rip their hearts out and Jordan also claimed an adverse crowd fed his hunger to win. That's how great players work and if anything the covid situation only made winning a championship harder for them.
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese Really? The Nuggets Lakers series was fixed even though the Lakers won in five games and were always the favorites? I enjoy a good conspiracy theory every now and then, but this one is not good.
@@luffyszn6513 I guess you are a Derek Rose fan. I like him but I did not think he was a great fit for the Lakers because he doesn't really seem to have those intuitive point guard instincts, he is more of a scorer. Also he is not a three-point shooter. I think DRose is best suited for another team.
@@estoiniodolbrun2228 She's the first female owner in the NBA,but the team went into the basement once the kids took over reason no one made a big deal of it. It was mentioned but they're not gonna dedicate a whole special about it. Cincinnati Reds and St. Louis Rams female owners won championships
Lmao right, its just lebron and ad and then other guys that play very inconsistently, except maybe caruso, hes kinda nice on defense and can score a little
@@joshido7352must never heard a Jason Whitlock take he not only says stupid shit he also attack players personally like he’s even near their level in life
I watch a lot of boxing and Max isn’t an idiot. ESPN always gives Stephen A the favorite and Max has to argue to counter argument. Max did not honestly believe kawhi and the clippers were better it was just his job to take that take. What’s sad is y’all actually believe the show represents their true opinions.
@@uncleiroh7967 I saw chemistry issues with Clippers. Squad too large and so the stars don’t get enough time to gel and forge a chemistry - never mind the load management. And truthfully - much respect to Kawhi - but I’m not yet very sold. Prior season, it was about Warriors being injured and still took them to 6 teams; in 2014, it was his defensive work on Bron - didn’t say anything about his offensive game. He’s never been in the MVP debate.
He is legend I'm not a Bron fan but a basketball fan. He just have a different legacy and still deserves his respect as a force to be reckoned with in this era.
Never , he makes them money , put lebron's name and /or photo and people watch it .. more views= more money , say anything stupid and attach LeBron with it ...
Naw you meant when are y'all going to learn. I tell ppl to stop being haters. You can say lebron going to the finals before the season starts confidently. You can't say that about most players today.
Shit is crazy. When Bron is healthy he makes the fucking finals. Like shit is literally in the statistical analysis, it’s not even an emotional feeling...it’s quite literally probability and, well, science. Like why would anyone think otherwise? Unless, dude completely falls off a cliff and becomes washed, expect him to make the finals again next year and, if healthy, the year after that. How can I be so sure? It’s in the data. That easy and I’m not make a shit ton of money to be on any of those sport shows. 🤷🏾♂️
I’m not gonna say every single bit of criticism and flak LeBron gets is unwarranted but people have got to stop moving the goalpost every time he wins, they said it was a cakewalk yet every series he played said that they don’t think he could win. Before the playoffs they made a big deal of them not having Avery Bradley “they weren’t the favorites before but now without Avery Bradley it makes it harder for them to even get out of the west”, In the Blazers series they said “they’re not your typical series they said “this isn’t your typical 8th seed it’s not impossible to say the Blazers beat the Lakers” after game 1 yet they went to gentlemen sweep the Blazzers, same with the Rockets they said “Huston has a very good chance to beat the Lakers, they have no bigs but can our score the lakers by raining 3s on them” after game 1 and again Lakers gentlemen swept them after, then the Clippers blew a 3-1 lead and all of a sudden they “dodged” the Clippers, very clearly they didn’t have what it took to win a fair playoff game, if Kristaps would’ve been healthy the whole series then no doubt they would’ve beat the Clippers, yet they faced the EXACT same team that beat the clippers and said “they’re dangerous, they beat the clippers they came back down 3-1 twice this postseason, they’re not gonna be scared of the Lakers” and again got beat in 5, Miami, I’m a heat fan so trust me when I tell you this team is still underrated, it’s like these people didn’t watch these guys step up and become a force in the league they beat the pacers Bucks and the Celtics, 2 of the teams which were upsets even if no one wants to admit it most people said the Bucks and Celtics would beat them, so they’re not this bad team that only made it because the East was bad yes Dragic was injured yes Bam was injured yes they where arguably the 2nd and 3rd most important players on that team but like I’ve said with the Warriors in 2015, like I said with the Raptors in 2019, Warriors in 2018 in the WCF yes the opposing team sustained very bad injuries that would’ve changed the outcome but at the end of the day you beat the team that’s in front of you you can’t change that stuff, Idc what any excuse anyone brings the Lakers won that championship fair and square
Miami very underrated I said at the start of the bubble I got Miami vs Lakers my friends laughed at me and said clippers v bucks. I said Miami is the only team that can beat the bucks in my mind this season Raptors are good but not great 76ers are useless as usual celtics dont know how to win so I cant see them making It. Behold the only team to challenge the lakers was Miami. And if any1 saw what Butler done to help them win 2 games and it burnt him he couldn't perform the next game just check the stats this shows you Lebron is a different breed his been asked to play almost 48 mins per game every playoff run and not meant to dip in performance. Butler done it twice and it burnt down after each game.
@@LiLKELiR JR said it to and ppl were making fun of him lol. Also Butler gets PRAISED for those 2 games and he was dead after them. Lebron played like this every game in 2015 Finals and he gets bashed because he lost, while also having matthew dellavedova as hes 2nd best player
@@rogoznicafc9672 I see alot of praise for Butler from the 2 games he showed out and outclassed Bron as they say but look at the 2 games butler gets a trip dub and wins it for Miami look at the scoring from the lakers in 1 game I recall bron scoring 40pts and the game ending 108-111 with only AD scoring over 20+pts and KCP the only other Laker scoring 10+pts and Miami near enough all players scoring over 10+pts and look how tired they all was from that last game. There not used to that sort of work. Because the next game was a blow out.
@@rogoznicafc9672 also why have they all said that this is a Cake walk for Bron n Lakers. That cant be there narrative when every player is coming out and saying the mental fatigue its had on them
Nah jordan is. If jordan started forming superteams or try to take the easiest route like bron by joining stacked teams Jordan would probably be tied with Bill Russell in rings if not more.
Lebron is the COAT, the most Criticized of All Time. And yet, everyone is just riding on his COATTAILS, especially the haters, who made careers out of hating him.
Literal careers have been made off of hating him. Lebron can literally not say a word, or do anything, and your career will take off if you create a narrative. It's like how Jordan would create a beef, just to very him going. These guys are creating beefs (EVEN IN A DIFFERENT SPORT), to get there careers going! These are facts. The guy has made EVERYBODY rich and prosperous, on AND off the court. That's only reserved for kings and GOATS. Lebron is both
@ 13:58 Lebron didn't "improve" on the defensive end. His defense is always there he just picks his spots just as Dudley said. The best version of LeBron's defense is showcased in the playoffs while while not very often in the regular season. He doesn't also attempt a lot of shots in the regular season.
Lol so that's why Jimmy put up two 30 plus point triple doubles with an injured supporting cast...At least LeBron had other options...where was LeBron at on Jimmy? And don't say Jimmy is a mismatch or that LeBron was needed on offense...that's tired shit.
laughing at the guy who said LeGM gon blow up the organization n get a “”real”” star player besides him n AD but now it’s a super team right? lmaoo the way the narrative is always changing
That’s is honestly the craziest part about the narrative to me at the beginning of the season they said the lakers weren’t even going to make the playoffs but as soon as they win they were a super team wit two mvps and a bunch of specialist I just wish mfs stuck behind what they said instead of changing it up ain’t nothing worse than a man that can’t admit when he was wrong and I think what upsets me the most is the blatant dickriding that comes with lebron name I understand once you get to a certain level of success mfs hate you just based on that alone but these be grown ass men dickriding because they may not like bron personally saying borderline retarded shit just to throw salt on son name shit be sad.
And now they tryna cover their tracks saying things like "No one calls him washed, he calls himself washed. He purposefully hates himself to motivate himself." And yes those people who said those shit are the same people who didnt call him "washed" word for word but that's how they meant it. It's just amazing how people hate this man just to uplift someones career or legacy. #iykyk
C you are an actual clown! He left his organization that drafted him after 7 years (that’s half a career for most) bc they put actual trash around him unlike other greats who had HOF GMs and usually coaches also! Super team lol 🤣
@C this is literally the worst take on basketball i’ve ever seen in my life, and i saw someone say duncan robinson a better shooter than klay thompson🤦🏽♂️
@C no that part is right (even tho lebron wasnt the one that started superteams) but lebron hasnt always been taking the easiest route, its not fact dude
Yo, she said that "you have to learn to play with" lebron and she doesn't feel the same way about kawhi YET the clippers are now claiming no chemistry as their reason for losing. You can't make this up lol 😂
Amazing documentation and editing to put this together! Very impressive work! 😊 The media wants us to forget all the bullshit they previously talked about, with no accountability. Love this video!
and to be honest Kawhii is the one should be called "being carried" being carried in Spurs, being carried in Toronto and now in Clippers they have so much talent but they all got KARMA...including their fans...
I don’t understand how they can say the championship shouldn’t count and that the lakers had it too easy when those same people literally said throughout the entire regular AND POST SEASON that they still wouldn’t make it. Shit they said they’d lose to the trail blazers. Smh
@Stephen Pamon look, I’m not a LeBron fan by a long shot, but I respect the game and he’s a rare talent we probably won’t ever see in awhile once it’s all said and done.
Yo i picked this vid up on the way into youtube, while on another business account, I had to long in an comment! THE MEDIA TRIED IT, I laughed sooo hard because I was listening to these knuckleheads for real 😂😂😂😂 GREAT VID!!!
The answer is simple PPl ARE HATERS. They Bashed Kobe for years cause he was a life long Laker, They bashed the Lakers cause they won so much. They bashed Lebron cause he wasn't MJ, And now they Blame Lebron cause the Flippers choked, the Bucks got bounced, and the Heat brokedown.
I can't remember Magic or Bird or MJ or Kobe or Shaq or Duncan being criticized after they won a championship. I can't remember Magic or Bird or MJ or Kobe or Shaq or Duncan it's their fault the other team is choking I don't know why NBA analyst or fans can't appreciate and accept the truth that Lebron is great.
@@tornadotornado7250 They don’t even bring up the collapse that a prime Kobe, Shaq, Malone, Payton, D Fish and Rick Fox lost. They only bring up 2011 not the Lakers 2004 collapse against Detroit. They know in their hearts he is the 🐐
@@manifest7791 to understand the degree everyone shits on Lebron while every other superstar gets away with failures think this: 2011 is Lebron's biggest downfall cause of the Mavs series. Well guess who the Mavs swept in 2nd round: Kobe and the Lakers, the defending champs GOT SWEPT and no one i mean no one even mentions it ever...Getting rings in 2010 and getting swept in 2nd round one year later? Really? 2011 play offs was also one of Kobe's biggest shortcomings in his career and i doubt most people remember it or even know it!!! Lakers didnt even won a single game that series...People r so concerned about critisizing Lebron that year they dont even care to say what happened to Kobe and the Lakers... ''Magic Johnson was disgusted with the Lakers' performance in Game 4 and stated in the ESPN Game 4 halftime report that the first half was "the worst that I've ever seen the Lakers play in a game that they need ... like they're already on vacation'' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_Los_Angeles_Lakers_season
@@user-bw6pt9dy6f its the same with MJ he never lost a finals yes but he also just made 6 finals why is it better to get beaten in the conference finals than in the NBA finals?
As a lifelong Raptors fan I wish like hell they could have ran it back. But I'm also happy to see when a team does the exact thing everyone says they're not going to do like the Lakers did this year, and they deserve respect for it. Also, side note. I'm much more of a hockey guy so correct me if I'm wrong but basketball journalists and personalities seem to flip flop back and forth between statements and opinions more than any other sport. It's insane.
Narratives around this whole GOAT debate makes things. The worst assets of the NBA community because dumb things like a superstar got carried or someone didn’t play great competition is made up to elevate or downgrade a players great accomplishment
@@alphabah6094 I've always hated that shit. The downplaying and excuses and all that. Like when the Raps won and people like "Well the Warriors had injuries" well yeah, but what are the Raptors supposed to do? Not play? Forfeit? Go Tonya Harding a couple of their own players to make it even? No. You can only play the team that's infront of you and you can only play with the cards your dealt. You win or lose. That's it.
@@KevynKing that’s why I don’t engage in the GOAT debate and kind of hate the NBA community. Lowkey Skip Bayless and guys like him really created this culture of just downplaying all time accomplishments and it sucks. Russ triple double average, Jordan going 6 for 6, literally anything with Lebron, it’s all just dismissed or diminished by media and regular fans. So if averaging a triple double was easy as to just stat pad, why doesn’t everyone do it. Just doesn’t make any sense
@Ashton Wilson just saying bro it must be annoying for players to put they heart sweat and tears into getting an award or championship just for some dumbass 13 year old on twitter or some idiotic sports analyst who hasn’t dribbled a basketball in his life to diminish it and dismiss it. Not saying that if you don’t play you don’t understand, but just my thoughts
Mfs really saying " *he needs to win 11 rings, 11 mvps and fmvps and be on the 1st team all defense every year then he'll be the GOAT* " Edit: shoutout to @Badar Farah @thegoat iR 360 these guys are great
@@badarfarah4736 LeBron has had the longest prime out of any player in nba history. His passing ability and scoring combined is unlike we’ve ever seen. He’s going to go down as the all time leading scorer regular season and post season (already is in post season) he’s going to pass Magic Johnson in all time assist on top of that. LeBron made it to the finals at age 21 year 3. In year 3 Jordan got swept out the first round like every year until he got Jackson’s and pippin🤣 he was a straight loser. The teams he faced in the finals was shit except the Jazz they were a good team. The Lakers lmao Magic dropped a triple double on Jordan in game one they had to switch Pippin on Magic the rest of the series so I don’t wanna hear Jordan could guard LeBron 😂 LeBron is a Magic 2.0 x 10. That sorry Lakers team. Then the Blazers lmao one man Drexler team and if I’m correct terry porter didn’t play neither did Daugherty. The the Suns lmao another one man team going against the best coach, best guard, and best small forward. The Sonics lmao sorry ass Sonics ain’t no match. But the Jazz yeah the best pick and roll ever took em to 6. I’ll give him that one. Oh forgot to mention he went out to the pups on the Magic 🤣 NBA tries to cover that up. Then he left the bulls went blissfully into the night and didn’t have another playoff series. Which nobody speaks about like his last years didn’t matter. LeBron in this era has dominated since day one has the greatest playoff stats we’ve ever seen. Most playoff triple doubles in nba history and the completions he’s faced shits on all of Jordan’s. Bro LeBron 8 straight nba finals. Bro the league he still dominates in... the talent is unbelievable. Bradley Beal averaged 30.6.5 and didn’t even make the all star team 🤣 most talent the league has ever seen. Every single team has a all star caliber player. He’s gonna two peat this year too jus wait. He’ll end his career all time leading scorer, pass top 5 assist all time, tie for most finals appearances, etc I ain’t gotta go into it all. Came back 3-1 on the greatest team of all time avg a triple double and lead both teams in every statistical category all three nba records in one series. Jordan has never faced the competition LeBron has Jordan cake walked to 6 chips. LeBron battled with the top 2 worst nba finals teams to make it. enough said bro LeBron is the goat ion wanna hear nun bout Jordan. Jordan is greatest scorer of all time he’s 2nd but LeBron is the greatest all around players we’ve ever seen he’s number one. 🐐
The double-standards on Lebron is still existing in and whatever team he joins they'll also get the double-standard. Smh people need to grow up, not too late to dismiss the hate.
That Bill Simmons argument was so stupid. He’s acting like any team “won” the trade. Both teams win. The Lakers got a win now player and one of the best players in the league. The Pelicans, who weren’t a contender with AD, got a barrage of young prospects to pair with Zion for the future. The Pelicans would have just lost AD to free agency if they didn’t trade him anyways.
Exactly the only thing I’d change about the whole trade is keeping BI or Zo instead of Kuz. Could of used another shot creator to take the load off of LeBron or Zo who’s a PG outside of rondo and Bron who can lead the offense and check the best guard on the other team.
But yea we won the trade right now they won the trade for the future. It’s up the front office to bring in like 2 people to replace Bron when he potentially departs or retires.
@@colemanchennault7195 it wasn’t possible to keep kuz in that trade bc salary limitations. Kuz was only making like 2 mill a year compared to zo and bi making like 7+ mil a year. They needed their salaries to make the trade financially possible
@@colemanchennault7195 with that being said, how much longer can Lebron keep this going, because he’s still the best in the world right now, and he isn’t slowing down at all.
I mean sure , LeBron and other players want their respect , but I don't think he had to say that tho .. Just saying , and that's coming from a LeBron fan too ...
He had ever right to say cuz all them talking head disrespecting that man on the daily bases to make money. And how up some other guy who choke when its 1st all eye are on him and another guy who can't lead a team. I'm giving them all the smoke.
This brother LOW cuts with facts every time... objectivity and consistency. These youtubers are straight making those NBA analysts look like trash!! I love it.... keep it up bro 🔥🔥🔥
4:30 "Without Lebron and AD the Lakers are average" I guess the Bulls w/o MJ or Pippen would of still been winning.... The Lakers clearly proved you still need big men in the NBA
@Da'Maryo Gamble and why you keep bringing up 2011 mavs ain't did jack shit right after sound like you hating hard bron must had did something personal to you or had a fair with your girl
People say they didn't go against the clippers that's why they won Hold on if they Beat a team that beat the clippers doesn't that make the lakers better than the clippers🤔🤔🤔
I think no..I think this is like a rock,paper,and scissor, maybe The CLIPPERS ARE ROCK THEN THEY GOT BEATEN BY PAPER WHICH IS THE NUGGETS THEN THE PAPER GOT BEATEN BY SCISSOR(LAKERS) THEN THE ROCK BEST SCISSSOR..
I think most people with common sense had them winning as long as Bron & AD were healthy. It’s only know that I’m hearing people didn’t even think they had a chance whatsoever lol
Before bubble started : “The Clippers is gonna whoop Lakers’ ass” After bubble finished : “the Clippers did not want to be there, bubble ring does not count” LOL
I can consistently say that I had total confidence in LeBron as soon as the Lakers acquired AD. Wasn't a perfect team but they had a solid chance and I believed that LeBron and company would make it work. Had Lakers as my pick the whole year.
Same I had the Lakers winning to, tbh I had the Celtics in the finals too, (but I knew the only way the Celtics would win it all is if the Lakers choked) but then the Celtics choked so I had the Lakers taking it no doubt
after miami defeated the bucks all media said that it was a mismatch and this final should have an asterisk on it.. man all this hate why cant they admit that they are straight up wrong about the lakers.. 😂😂
@@almadinjohnchristophers.9014 the talent pool in the 90's overall is worse than today's NBA. If you are old enough, remember the NBA expanded twice during MJ career and all those new teams were not that good to compete furiously for the title. They were just there to grow first as franchises. I don't know why the media omits so much what happened in the NBA during the 80's and 90's. It is like they are protecting legacies of all those hall of famers and want us to believe those guys were cyborgs on the court.
@@dnn32 right. A lot of ppl who say jordan is a goat I'm trying to figure out what made him a goat. Jordan fans base his scoring attributes as a win when he was losing just like kobie. The only time their scoring won is when they received high stake players. Kobie and Shaq 3 years after the peat. Kobie showed no killer mentality on the court as a leader. He lost 3 years in a row and the 3rd year he chose not to play in game 7 but ppl forgot that. Pau comes and kobie killer mentality rising again winning 2 more after that kobie shutdown for 6 years while lebron was taking on the most athletic and dominant players in the league with experienced vets. Jordan killer mentality was a bully. He also did not perform as a great before Scottie. Jordan scored but wasn't winning. After 2 3 peats. Jordan at 35 wasn't killing shit or dominating shit so it is sad lebron became great in hi 4th year taking a franchise to a finals with broken parts. LeBron became a goat his 4th year in the league and what made him lose so many finals. Well the arrogance of teammates he had proved it. Love sucked. Kyrie admitted lebron was the shit. Wade was semi jealous because he was no longer looked at as the man of Miami being the only star on the team with a ring at that time and now lakers who just acquired AD are Champions and AD is doing a second run with him to guarantee another ring then leave. Thats smart knowing lebron might not be this valid years after.
LOW 100% agree. The Lakers took care of business. Plain and Simple. It’s not LeBron’s fault for The Clippers selling, The Warriors catching the injury bug since LAST YEAR (2018-2019) finals! Denver came out and shocked people, Houston was always kinda suss with Harden and Russ, The Miami Heat shocked everyone especially beating the Bucks! The Season got shut down due to a GLOBAL PANDEMIC and then resumed. I’m no Bronsexual but why is that LeBron not judged and criticize fairly. I mean I’m not the biggest LeBron fan but I know unfair criticism when I see and most definitely hear that. We wouldn’t be having this issue if it was someone else because LeBron we have to move the goalpost constantly when (in the words of SWISHOUT, “Defeated every narrative in his career” fair and square and still is continuing to do something about it. At least give him props (We do actually but) honorably and fairly in praise and criticism! Like seriously we look really stupid for doing this!
Winning a chip certainly takes a lot. Injuries, chemistry, and peaking at the right time... That is why each chip is very important for any player, you do go thru a lot just to reach finals... And you are right, the people who can't offer their respect most likely don't know what it took to be there...
It’s confuses me why the Clippers were though of as this immovable objects. There were idiots that questioned whether or not the 2017 warriors would work but we doubted Lebron and AD. Just seems dumb
No one thought that the clippers were unbeatable everyone LITERALLY SAID whoever won the west would be the champion and that it was either the clips or the Lakers STOP REWRITING HISTORY FRAMING THE LAKERS AS UNDERDOGS
@@drehitemup9904 bro is everyone picked the Clippers and not the lakers that the definition of underdog bro. Just saying that media gave the clippers too many passes and ignored thier flaws, as well as the double standards between Kawhi and Lebron.
Just means you appreciate basketball at the highest level ever (a single player leading teams to championships while leading in points, steals, rebounds, block shots, and assists) played by the greatest player and arguably mind EVER
@@mobetta2092 A single player? A single player? LeBron is one of the greatest players to ever do it. Hands down. No question. But this is partially why he gets some of the hate he does. We talk about LeBron as if his other teammates Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Love and AD, all which were number 1 options on their respective teams, don’t even exist outside of LeBron’s greatness. We do this, while in the same breath, saying that players like Steph Curry (prior to KD) had to too much “help,” with Klay Thompson and Draymond, knowing that Curry had to develop their talent for years before they got good. As great as LeBron is, he doesn’t develop talent, he joins teams, coordinates trades, poaches, whatever you want to call it, to get great talent. And that’s fine. He has championship aspirations and he’s going after it. Now granted, Steph received KD later on, which was his 1st number 1 option outside of himself, while LeBron has had at least 6 prior number one options on his teams, while also being a top 5 player himself, if not outright the best player in the world. That’s a big difference. LeBron has had great, great teams, barring his first few years in Cleveland and of course, the Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Cavs team he took to the finals, which was an amazing feat, by him, no doubt. However, the man is going into his 18th season. He’s had great teammates for a minimums 10 years, and he has won 4 titles out of those 10, with those great teams. Enough already with the overshadowing of his teammates. If you love and know basketball, you already understand how great LeBron is, we don’t need to pretend like his teammates aren’t amazing at what they do. He’s a champion. Period. But we need to stop pretending like he won these titles as a “single player.” And that’s with all due respect, my friend.
@@Lee65100 I never said LeBron won the titles as a single player. I did however say he's the single (only) player who's won championships as the team leader in points, assists, steals, rebounds, and blocked shots.
