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Is Vorinclex Broken in Standard? | Vorinxlex Jund | MTG Kaldhem | MTG Standard | Much Abrew 

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Normally Much Abrew doesn't come out until Friday, but Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider is too sweet in MTG Kaldheim Standard to wait an entire week before showing off its power!
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0:00 Start
2:33 Match 1
14:38 Match 2
22:06 Match 3
33:01 Match 4
47:46 Match 5
59:43 Wrap Up

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@RhysticStudies
@RhysticStudies 3 года назад
my god, standard is just 1v1 EDH
@piper964
@piper964 2 года назад
dont compliment standard like that /j
@bobwilson679
@bobwilson679 Месяц назад
Lmaooo suprised to see you here RhysticStudies
@joshuablack3163
@joshuablack3163 3 года назад
39:51 "Another one for the good guys..." looks at Valki, Vorinclex, and Liliana in hand "I guess."
@zachgray4767
@zachgray4767 3 года назад
I've been jamming Vorinclex as my commander in Brawl and winning about 70% of my games not because the deck is good, but because opponents punt almost every single time. So many times an opponent spams "Good Game" and drops Ugin with 3 counters, then quits.
@hobocrab
@hobocrab 3 года назад
Guess it was GG, but not in the way they expected 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@KiuhKobold
@KiuhKobold 3 года назад
PFFFFT! I'mma be honest, that's nothing short of what the Ugin spammers deserve XD reminds me of how I beat a 5 color super value deck with 5 color Party in brawl. Hehehe, suck that Ugin!
@NoctaliSH
@NoctaliSH 3 года назад
Call an ambulance.... BUT NOT FOR ME
@noahdaglio9362
@noahdaglio9362 3 года назад
Just wait till Jin Gitaxias shows up in Strixhaven as a crazy professor.
@lucidlullaby894
@lucidlullaby894 3 года назад
I wonder if Norn will show up in this sprinkling of Praetors, or if she’s gonna have a plot line to herself
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
I'm expecting we get some more Praetors throughout the year :)
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 3 года назад
It'll probably be UG, as simic cards are always trash! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@neminem233
@neminem233 3 года назад
God this seems like such a great idea I hope they actually do that
@YourCrazyOverlord
@YourCrazyOverlord 3 года назад
I so called this happening
@arashinoguardianyeah9083
@arashinoguardianyeah9083 3 года назад
39:47 Seth: Akroan War would kill us Vorinclex: Don't worry buddy, i got this
@poofypeanut0221
@poofypeanut0221 3 года назад
Didn’t even think about the fact that Vorinclex just turns off your opponents sagas
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Yeah, I didn't really either until I started playing with it. It's a big reason why I think Vorinclex is so good in Standard. Shutting down the opponent's counters (and Sagas) is actually a pretty strong form of protection in the current meta.
@poofypeanut0221
@poofypeanut0221 3 года назад
@@MTGGoldfish right on man, that’s means this also serves just as good against Atraxa in edh as in does IN Atraxa
@Zosh_
@Zosh_ 3 года назад
24:00 You just skipped a land drop for some reason
@Rzezio0
@Rzezio0 3 года назад
Was just searching for that comment. Sure it wasn't only me to see that.
@Kettwiesel25
@Kettwiesel25 3 года назад
It actually even punished him next turn not to be able to play the tapland for Ugin
@TheSLATEcleaner
@TheSLATEcleaner 3 года назад
So, I've been playing a list similar to this after seeing your version crop up on mtgazone. The list as-is is pretty great, but I made some alterations based on your Twitter recommendation, personal preference, and better BO1 consistency. My changes: I cut all 4 Lukkas. I know your Twitter recommended 2, but I didn't see the point when t4/5 Vorinclex is often good enough I added the following cards: Third Heartless Act [I like the instant speed] One Extinction Event [all our creatures are even] One Massacre Wurm [flex spot, I like the card but 4th Heartless Act is probably better] One more basic, bumping it to 25 lands to make it less likely to miss the 6th land drop for a foretold Ugin [happened twice when testing the original list]. This deck is super basic hungry and I ran out of basics more often than I'd like in the base version. My final land situation was: 1x Mountain [cutting Lukka meant you only need 1 red source at a time for Tibalt, and you can still play Valki if you don't have it] 4x Darkbore Pathway 4x Fabled Passage 1x Ketria Triome [so you can fetch red off of Binding] 1x Zagoth Triome [I felt I'd rather have an extra basic than more B/G duals for Binding] 1x Castle Locthwain 6x Forest 7x Swamp I cut all the red duals since the deck only needs 1 for Tibalt and it has 16 ways to find one past the two actual lands [Cultivate, Binding, Solemn, Fabled Passage]. I changed the Snow Lands to regular basics because I'm playing BO1 and not playing Blood on the Snow, so they're a liability on the off chance an opponent is playing Redaine. Edit: Additionally, I tried to make this deck work with Gyruda, since Lukka and Cultivate are the only odds, but losing Cultivate is a huge problem for the deck. Do not recommend. Edit 2: Beyond Ugin and Vorinclex[obvious], the cards that have most impressed me are Dream Devourer, Binding the Old Gods, and Valki/Tibalt. Dream Devourer is _way_ better ramp than I gave it credit for, and I was high enough on the card I crafted 4 day 1; it's been overperforming, especially vs aggressive decks. Binding the Old Gods is just a nice clean 2-for-1, but it feels so good to have an answer to everything that also helps ramp to Ugin. I've yet to drop a game where Tibalt hits the battlefield, and Valki on 2 to snipe Anax from Mono-Red is an absolute beating for their curve.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Sounds like good updates. I'm current at two Lukka and added in Extinction Events to replace the two I cut. Also very much agree about Dream Devourer, it's really good and a lot more playable than I thought it would be.
@mroceanmtg8826
@mroceanmtg8826 3 года назад
I too made a few tweaks that i think are really nice. I replaced the Lukkas with 2 Goldpsan dragon added 2 extinction event and instead of Lilliana i am running GB nissa. Foretelling goldspan is insane. Nissa and goldspan helps with even more ramp so now we have more ways to cast vorinclex and tibalt ahead of schedule.
@niceasmd9890
@niceasmd9890 3 года назад
@@mroceanmtg8826 for these kinds of change (aka cutting Lukka), how do you reliably find Vorinclex?
@mroceanmtg8826
@mroceanmtg8826 3 года назад
@@niceasmd9890 that is true I don't find vorinclex as much but nissa and goldspan help assist any hand. More options to cast tibalt and ugin faster.
@duesexistat5016
@duesexistat5016 3 года назад
My first reaction was to remove all the luccas. What about an elspeth’s nightmare or two or a couple great henges for added bustedness ( vorinclex would double counters on creatures)
@MindLaboratory
@MindLaboratory 3 года назад
Can't wait to play this deck. I'm only 17 mythic and 18 rare wildcards away...
@jameshanus3813
@jameshanus3813 3 года назад
Binding the old gods is one of my favorite cards in the set
@maciek19882
@maciek19882 3 года назад
Yes, Casualties of War light
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Card is insane (unless your opponent has Vorinclex ;)
@lucasenraraujo
@lucasenraraujo 3 года назад
Reminds me of Mwonvuli Acid Moss (except it destroys NONlands haha)
@natestrasburg
@natestrasburg 3 года назад
Card is busted
@oORoOFLOo
@oORoOFLOo 3 года назад
ngl, i think the deck would be a lot weaker without it. Almost wanna say it carried the deck. Non conditional removal and ramp on a card for 4 mana, when he plays deck that needs to hit 6 mana asap. How do you play against that?... Busted-oppressive.
@BAM_Deadstroke
@BAM_Deadstroke 3 года назад
"Only thing better than winning in Magic is taking away your opponents will to even play Magic." This is why I love Seth
@Savaniel
@Savaniel 3 года назад
Double Much Abrew! Thanks for getting this together, so quickly, Seth. What a sweet deck!
@MrShinyObject
@MrShinyObject 3 года назад
I love this whole thing. The Vorinclex, the Tibalt, even the dream devourer.
@SylphIcilio
@SylphIcilio 3 года назад
"Tibalt is super good" as an honest statement is something I've needed to hear since og Innistrad block.
@kilpta4746
@kilpta4746 3 года назад
I unironically played it in modern mono red prison for a while it was passable. The old 2 mana walker.
@miguelfreitas5343
@miguelfreitas5343 3 года назад
*Thank you* !! Thank you for bringing back the initial deck tech, really appreciate it 😊😊
@lucaslahlum6331
@lucaslahlum6331 3 года назад
If I took a shot every time Seth said hideaway this episode I’d be dead. 💀 it’s foretell now lol.
@u1trav10let2
@u1trav10let2 3 года назад
OOH NEW VIDEO FORMAT SICK WAS SO HYPED TO SEE YA DROP KALDHEIM CONTENT LETS GOOOOO!!
@lagentemormora
@lagentemormora 3 года назад
Well, and historic as well... Nissa's lands are 6/6 haste-vigilance creatures... :((((
@antischtick3502
@antischtick3502 3 года назад
Lmfao
@silverdeathgamer2907
@silverdeathgamer2907 3 года назад
Does it double the size of Krasis also?
@lagentemormora
@lagentemormora 3 года назад
@@silverdeathgamer2907 probably
@drumaboy70
@drumaboy70 3 года назад
@@silverdeathgamer2907 yes it does, it doubles all counters on permanents and players.
@DimbyHero
@DimbyHero 3 года назад
This was great. Very excited about the new format!
@TheMegaMagikarp
@TheMegaMagikarp 3 года назад
I love that you've gone back to deck techs in videos, they're usually my favorite parts
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Yeah, I think the plan is to keep but, but also keep them shorter.
@derAlphabet
@derAlphabet 3 года назад
This was great to watch! Love that archetype
@swolegolisopod7340
@swolegolisopod7340 3 года назад
8:00 no reason to not cast lukka and ult to end on the spot
@furbyfubar
@furbyfubar 3 года назад
Seth: "Only Preator in standard" Changelings: 😠
@Yojimbothewookie
@Yojimbothewookie 3 года назад
This is probably my favorite deck I've ever played.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Glad you're liking it!
@cabrita1384
@cabrita1384 3 года назад
New to mtg?
@Yojimbothewookie
@Yojimbothewookie 3 года назад
@@cabrita1384 No, I've been playing magic since 2005. This deck is just really fun to play.
@ahigherplace1542
@ahigherplace1542 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure standard jund is more powerful than modern jund at this point Lol
@cabrita1384
@cabrita1384 3 года назад
Not even close, cascade + tibalt
@briankuczynski6884
@briankuczynski6884 3 года назад
Modern is still worlds better just on the mana base of shocks and fetches. The creature lands in modern are also the best
@Darchias
@Darchias 3 года назад
Running Blood in the Snow and Frostbite makes me feel like the golgari snow dual might be better than the two Triomes
@DylanHunter64
@DylanHunter64 3 года назад
Two Much Abrews in one weekend? Heckin' sign me up!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Yeah, the schedule is going to be a bit wonkey this week. I wanted to get this one up ASAP since the set just released :)
@danielbretado7660
@danielbretado7660 3 года назад
Everytime Tibalt gets a new card, he gets stronger. He's too dangerous to be left alive!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Next time Tibalt returns its going to be Oko-level broken.
@Pike27
@Pike27 3 года назад
No meme at the beginning, so much better!
@lucasenraraujo
@lucasenraraujo 3 года назад
You can just tell how much effort and love was put into that thumbnail art.
@Niuttuc
@Niuttuc 3 года назад
That thumbnail art is art from Vorinclex's showcase, because the video was to be uploaded and edited quickly to show off the deck, the usual thumbnail artist wasn't asked to work on a rush during a weekend.
@lucasenraraujo
@lucasenraraujo 3 года назад
@@Niuttuc aaah I see. :X And here I was thinking that the thumbnail artist flexed on us drawing something out of his usual style, oops. Nevertheless, it's a great art
@TheDerpHerper
@TheDerpHerper 3 года назад
Seth! Always love the content. Do you think there's any chance of you bringing back the the match-up titles and record counters? I feel like I've noticed them being missing for the past few videos, and I always really appreciated them! But, you do whatever it best for the channel, my man. Keep up the good work :-)
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Yeah, right now they aren't on Arena videos but are on MTGO videos. The problem we ran into is that we had to shrink down the overlay so much that it wasn't very readable (or keep it big and cover stuff on the screen). Hopefully we can make some more changes to get them back into Arena video as well.
@Infernoman64
@Infernoman64 3 года назад
JUND IS BACK! Never thought I'd say that...
@Mr87Benny
@Mr87Benny 3 года назад
It would be nice to see this kind of a deck/mechanics in modern :)
@bardhoag
@bardhoag 3 года назад
The starship troopers line xD
@johnsethsalvador2298
@johnsethsalvador2298 3 года назад
Tbh I was surprised by Seth's full screen at the start. I almost dropped my phone
@geraldjacobs7824
@geraldjacobs7824 3 года назад
Super excited to see this one. Saffron Olive plays guitar? Will he serenade us?
@zinglii
@zinglii 3 года назад
These are some spicy meatballs, going to steal your idea, hope it doesn't become meta. ❤️
@whodeyjoseph
@whodeyjoseph 3 года назад
Nissa of shadowed boughs seems like it would be awesome here
@RdbJlove
@RdbJlove 3 года назад
Against the Odds: only Eldraine Cards in Standard ... Historic ... Pioneer ... Modern ? Running the Gauntlet
@Small_Panda
@Small_Panda 3 года назад
That's not even against the odds, not playing eldraine is the against the odds.
@joshwhitmire5753
@joshwhitmire5753 3 года назад
Legacy?
@joshwhitmire5753
@joshwhitmire5753 3 года назад
I mean legacy at least you get oko.
@Small_Panda
@Small_Panda 3 года назад
@@joshwhitmire5753 I mean I think your mana would be your biggest issue. As for the most part a lot of eldraine shows up in legacy looking at you 1 green cryptic command
@Small_Panda
@Small_Panda 3 года назад
@@joshwhitmire5753 though I think you would basically get crushed as legacy has just as busted as cards like force bolt path swords
@recoverythrugamingtv5352
@recoverythrugamingtv5352 3 года назад
The synergies in the deck are awesome
@thesarcasticliberal
@thesarcasticliberal 3 года назад
I've been running Abzan control with Vorinclex + Kaya + Garruk + Ugin and it is absolutely brutal. Eerie Ultimatum lets you put Vorinclex into play alongside all your planeswalkers, which doubles there starting loyalty and lets you ultimate all of them the turn you play the ultimatum. Once Kaya is ulted, you get a free copy of any of your planeswalkers or Vorinclex, every turn (e.g. you can -7 your free Ugin every turn to clear the board).
@averagefox5126
@averagefox5126 3 года назад
Don't think for a second I dont see that Scoops plush in the background Seth! Where's mine to buy!
@sharlockshacolmes9381
@sharlockshacolmes9381 3 года назад
Tibalt got the best glow up in all of history, change my mind.
@michaellooks8397
@michaellooks8397 3 года назад
9:00 listening to this at 1.5x speed makes you sound like a mad scientist 😂
@vehiclesofpeace
@vehiclesofpeace 3 года назад
I mean Vorinclex has a wall of text, but that 6/6 trample haste pretty much wins on its own from my experince. 😅 the other effects are a really nice bonus though.
@atlys258
@atlys258 3 года назад
Vorinclex is so good because so many things utilize counter mechanics, and by itself doubles the power of your own while hating your opponent's. I don't know yet if it's completely game breaking since the meta might be able to adapt to less counter reliant mechanics and since it's got zero protection, permission and removal could be enough to prevent it from completely taking over like Uro and Omnath did. Buuuttt, we don't really know yet though, there's so much ramp that Vorinclex decks could be too much. Either way, freaking great matches!
@olac454
@olac454 3 года назад
Can i download that sideboard overlay somewhere. It looks great and very handy!
@emilianovalori4405
@emilianovalori4405 3 года назад
Vorinclex: make planeswalkers great again!
@WilliamLimao
@WilliamLimao 3 года назад
Seth, you're forgetting to make Valki become a copy of the exiled card
@TheCrmerry
@TheCrmerry 3 года назад
That's a sick deck.
@alexknot
@alexknot 3 года назад
This deck is very fun to play, I dont have all the cards and had to change a bit and still so broken
@d9_1056
@d9_1056 3 года назад
3:13 first land drop
@mtleaguegaming7896
@mtleaguegaming7896 3 года назад
Seriously: anything w Jund bc its so much silly sacrifice power... throw V in there? Ugh for sure- cant wait to try this!
@aussiemarty2732
@aussiemarty2732 3 года назад
Lukka has an ultimate too Seth, you kept missing that!
@patrickmcguinness109
@patrickmcguinness109 3 года назад
Rip my mythic wild cards
@lucasenraraujo
@lucasenraraujo 3 года назад
Ideas for future jank: Haunting Voyage Clerics (For Vito + Righteous Valkyrie combo kill). In search of Greatness + Sagas/Omens (there's also that red spell that requires you to sacrifice a creature or enchantment to deal 5)
@tmarks2562
@tmarks2562 3 года назад
So i've been testing similair things but with the new kaya ultimate into ugin, also feels good^^
@TheExperienceShare
@TheExperienceShare 3 года назад
Love the new intro style
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Thanks! I'm trying to keep it shorter since a lot of people just skip through the beginning anyway, but still fit in the most important information. Glad you like it!
@alecazam6755
@alecazam6755 3 года назад
Oh yeah sagas... I could picture him being a top end for a midrange deck with walkers and sagas
@DeviilReaper
@DeviilReaper 3 года назад
I understand that its a meme to make fun of Seth for saying Names and words weird, but Seth come on how did Jegantha become Jin-gatha? 56:24
@tmakalpha1
@tmakalpha1 3 года назад
Jin-gathatias
@neminem233
@neminem233 3 года назад
@@tmakalpha1 *wheeeeeze Jin Gathasis*
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 3 года назад
Trolling for engagement is a tried and true tactic. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way.
@tortle1055
@tortle1055 3 года назад
Well we have Vorinclex in standard, I guess now we have Jin-Gantha for our 2 praetor XD
@0331ball
@0331ball 3 года назад
This deck is sick af
@chulumpthebigmoneywizard851
@chulumpthebigmoneywizard851 3 года назад
I've run the numbers: The second mode of Heartless Act has only been chosen 4 times, including yours in Match 5
@isaacberney6174
@isaacberney6174 3 года назад
I kind of hate standard, but if I ever play it again, I know what I'm going to play now. Thanks Seth.
@CyberNewType
@CyberNewType 3 года назад
Binding of the Old Gods was an all star the entire time. wow
@AnthonyHernandez-yp4jd
@AnthonyHernandez-yp4jd 3 года назад
Any reason you didn't drop your land after solemn in match 3?
@TheCrackler
@TheCrackler 3 года назад
Is Dream Devourer actually gas for deck archetypes like Ad Nauseam?
@alexjones6177
@alexjones6177 3 года назад
That opening to the video actually made me laugh out loud. Makes me want to craft some new cards.
@E_D___
@E_D___ 3 года назад
shirtless jayce in historic? :D endless jayces in arena, how much jayces you need to crush the client?
@nacricissa
@nacricissa 3 года назад
Well, 250 Jaces, because of the recently implemented token limit, but I’m sure that’s enough
@alessandrobruschi8967
@alessandrobruschi8967 3 года назад
I also made a deck like this one (or tried), and seeing yours makes me realize how bad I am at brewing
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
I've just been doing it for a long, long time. Keep at it!
@michaellooks8397
@michaellooks8397 3 года назад
I feel the same way whenever he uploads lol
@jigglefloyd
@jigglefloyd 3 года назад
Vorinclex is like 3 Narset in a way - it has a passive that is so easily and frequently overlooked by people, even those who are well aware of it.
@ChenTheRainbow
@ChenTheRainbow 3 года назад
What would you exchange for the 4 lucca's? I have barely any of them and don't think they're necessary for the deck. More ramp? More early game removal?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
More removal. Currently I'm down to two Lukka and have two Extinction Event in their place.
@jasonappel1253
@jasonappel1253 3 года назад
what is the thing showing his deck on the left?
@HarleyQuinnW1NS
@HarleyQuinnW1NS 3 года назад
I play an Abzan version of this that is nutty
@nomenestomen3452
@nomenestomen3452 3 года назад
Shouldn't Vorinclex also keep Brushfire Elemental away from becoming counters?
@custus1337
@custus1337 3 года назад
I really like this deck. What changes would you make for BO1?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Hmm, that's a good question. I haven't played any B01 since Kaldheim dropped, I'm not sure why you couldn't just run it as-is though.
@VanDijkLarsen
@VanDijkLarsen 3 года назад
You have a small typo in the title, Vorinclex Jund is spelled as Vorinxlex Jund. Keep up the good work, best regards
@Hygoro
@Hygoro 3 года назад
Shapeshifters/Changelings are praetors, so you're good :)
@bigbluwu8607
@bigbluwu8607 3 года назад
Game 2 against gruul adventures. You could've played vorenclex and the 2 drop foretell creature. Possibly stabilized
@Houston7001
@Houston7001 3 года назад
fullscreen Saffron scared tf outa me
@rednose9378
@rednose9378 3 года назад
Im gonna need a lot of mythic wild card for this deck
@gabrielr643
@gabrielr643 3 года назад
Isn't it possible to replace Lukka with Vivien? This way the mana is easier to achieve and you can T5 Vivien get a blocker, T6 tick Vivien down, play Vorinclex, get Tibalt? Not sure about if it's working this way, but should be. Tibalt cant ult right away, but gets +4 with the Vorinclex on the battlefield.
@tonysmith9905
@tonysmith9905 3 года назад
Unfortunately it doesn't work with Vivien. Just tested it on arena myself since I was already testing ways to cheat him in. I think it's because Vivien only allows you to put a creature onto the battlefield, where as other ways to put him in such as G-Wave or Emergent allow you to put any thing into play.
@arcmage7000
@arcmage7000 3 года назад
This deck is spicy AF
@fanuneza
@fanuneza 3 года назад
34:39 NEVER PUNISHED
@recoverythrugamingtv5352
@recoverythrugamingtv5352 3 года назад
I had a game where opponent got turn 2 valki to take my kroxa, turn 3 copy it and start swinging in
@xanlikes6146
@xanlikes6146 3 года назад
gosh now i want to see emergent ultimatum with two planeswalkers and vorinclex since they either give you an emblem or two planeswalkers
@shmittywarbermanjensen1756
@shmittywarbermanjensen1756 3 года назад
in historic you can do WAR lilliana and omniscience with vorniclex
@tonysmith9905
@tonysmith9905 3 года назад
Fun fact: Emergent Ultimatum allows you to cast the other side of the dual cards from Kaldheim so you can search for Valki with it and get Tibalt. In fact I'm brewing up a list already for the deck!
@arthurkeech
@arthurkeech 3 года назад
Surprised to see no Garruk
@leem.9934
@leem.9934 3 года назад
I think that pulling Lukka for a Klothys and 3 Kroxa mainboard would be my first alteration. The idea is solid, but this isn't Lukka's list. Also, I'm not sure about Blood on the Ice or Frost Bite here. I really love Scooze next to Vorinclex too... Man, this is a playable standard Jund and I'm stoked about that. And I know this isn't my list, I'm just thinking via text.
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 3 года назад
Wait a minute, you mean to tell me that WotC made yet another busted G mythic?! NO FUCKIN WAY!!!!!
@RandomPerson-mv8bn
@RandomPerson-mv8bn 3 года назад
idk, i think what actually made the deck seem busted is the dream devourer. A 6 Mana creature in standard is a lot when you have 5/5s for 3, but because Dream Devourer let's you foretell those big cards, you can double cast both the Vorinclex and a planeswalker. but I'm no pro magic player so let me know if that sounds like bs.
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 3 года назад
Vorinclex is strong, but I wouldn't say broken. Dies to any removal that can hit a 6 drop except sagas.
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 3 года назад
@@snakeman830 literally same ring applies to Uro, and Uro is nowhere near as swingy.
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 3 года назад
@@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Uro is a 4 drop self-contained value machine that recurs itself. Vorinclex solo is just a beater that can't die to sagas. Yes, you could argue that Vorinclex has stronger synergies, but you have to synergize to get the most out of him. Uro you can just jam into any UG deck and he's fantastic.
@chapeldweller
@chapeldweller 3 года назад
This decks looks sweet.
@monorayjak4377
@monorayjak4377 3 года назад
We can finally do it again... WE CAN JUND'EM OUT!
@bastianrhone9390
@bastianrhone9390 3 года назад
Maby a snow controll list featuring jorn, god of winter?
@brunobaw657
@brunobaw657 3 года назад
24:10 weird to not play the land and be 1 land to Ugin!
@FableErrejeDMR
@FableErrejeDMR 3 года назад
if the goal was to get a insta ult why not Garruk or the royal scions?
@hard2break
@hard2break 3 года назад
Seth what would you add to replace Lukka?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
So far I've cut two Lukka for two Extinction Event.
@colinbrown5646
@colinbrown5646 3 года назад
Vorinclex is actually lowkey good into the meta. While he doesn’t counter the actual Adventure cards, he stops Sagas from working, makes it so Ugin cant reset the board, and makes it so Great Henge doesnt pump the team. Some notes after watching the video. Lukka clearly needs to go. He never got cast and felt bad to draw. It’d be best to likely replace it with either removal (Eliminate) or maybe Klothys just due to it providing both ramp and nice life gain to let you survive. Also I think Blood in the Snow should be Extinction Event. Its just a cheaper board wipe and you need board wipes asap when you need them.
@goncaloferreira6429
@goncaloferreira6429 3 года назад
a positive view on things. nice.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Yeah, I've slowly been cutting Lukkas (I'm down to two now, with two copies of Extinction Event in the main). Not sure if I'll cut it completely, but I'm heading in that direction I guess.
@TheGorick
@TheGorick 3 года назад
why no garruk cursed huntsman?
@seoreh3138
@seoreh3138 3 года назад
That deck is nuts
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
I agree! I love this deck.
@AwakentheNOW
@AwakentheNOW 3 года назад
Just noticed this flex @ 25:50
@dougisacat
@dougisacat 3 года назад
Klothys is such a powerful underrated card
@emilypearl3510
@emilypearl3510 3 года назад
Hope your happy, in exchange for those land drops the powerful forces of magic decided to not print any more good white cards for 2 years.
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