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The Consequences of Membership

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@dawill2doit
@dawill2doit 3 года назад
Once the fear of man is gone. You can truly be free!
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 3 года назад
8 old men control & they're the worst hypocrites.
@ramoth777
@ramoth777 3 года назад
Amone KD, Amen! "The fear of man bringeth a snare" (Proverbs 29:25)!
@jessicapleasant1669
@jessicapleasant1669 3 года назад
They know if they leave they will loose all their friends and family
@pvictor1277
@pvictor1277 3 года назад
True frienship does not exist in that religion!
@jdstep97
@jdstep97 3 года назад
Jessica pleasant - Exactly. I'm so fortunate that the one JW family member I had was elderly. When that family member died, I decided to take off for college. So I basically ghosted all the crazy elders and nosy busy-bodies. They did not know what happened. I had gotten scholarships and grants. I moved away to live on a college campus in another city, several hours away. I actually began a relationship with my mom, via telephone and letters, and I got new friends. Leaving and going to college was one of the best decisions I ever made. Never went back to a KH. To this day, I don't know if I'm considered DF, inactive, faded, or did they just forget me altogether. Guess I don't really care. That was many years ago.
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 3 года назад
@@jdstep97 Where you estranged from your mother bc of the JWs?
@jasminewashington5953
@jasminewashington5953 3 года назад
Patrick Victor ikr, has to learn that lesson when my “friends” decided to talk shit behind my back and everyone in the congregation started to look at me some type of way. Happy I’m done with that shit
@tinajones194
@tinajones194 3 года назад
There are many true beleivers in there. It is the fear to leave. I wasnt afraid of anyone not talking to me. The fear was that I was leaving Jehovah. It took me a long time to find him and know exactly what he wanted us to do. I have no fear now for leaving and its because I have Jehovah Jesus And the Holy Spirt. I thank the Lord Father and Jesus my savior for loving me. I was Lost and now I'm Found. Amen
@geo-uv9pq
@geo-uv9pq 3 года назад
Some people enjoy being told what to do and think, because a circuit overseer told him not to worry about it a former friend won't research the Australian royal commission findings for himself. I wash my hands of such people now, I have no time for cowards and those who want to be deceived.
@akatheheretic3014
@akatheheretic3014 3 года назад
geo209 I TRULY couldn't Agree with You More! PS. Remember what the Book of Revelations said is The Father and Son's position on Cowards? 😒 😔😜 And what their Fate will be?? 🔥🔥🔥
@dionnefrancis5249
@dionnefrancis5249 3 года назад
I sat in the kingdom hall waiting for them for years to shed some light on what was happening with the oediphile situation.seeing that they said that they dont put up with wrong doing.I heard nothing until until I was dispel low shipped .turned out it was the best thing to happen to me.thanks to Critical Thinker,he was the one who made me leave mentally,since I had a mind to clean up myself to go back.
@geo-uv9pq
@geo-uv9pq 3 года назад
@@dionnefrancis5249 I'm glad you are out, you would have never got the whole truth from them if any. The bare minimum they are doing now is not out of a Christian conscience but because they don't want to be sued.
@akatheheretic3014
@akatheheretic3014 3 года назад
@@geo-uv9pq Exactly! 😒😜
@w.v.e.8643
@w.v.e.8643 3 года назад
I agree! 🌺⚘
@AustinTolesOfficial
@AustinTolesOfficial 3 года назад
This is exactly why I was stuck for 28 years.. Happy to say I'm out now.. I've been PIMO for over a year but I'm physically out now and while I still love my family, My mental health is more important. All I did was send my brother the article where the Governing Body said they weren't inspired by Holy Spirit and he said he would "Give me till the end of the week to inform people".. Then my grandmother texted me and told me they were happy after 44 years and regret nothing and that if I decided to have different beliefs they would treat me like a disfellowshipped person, when I asked her why having different beliefs equaled the same as being disciplined for unrepentantly sinning, she ignored the whole question.. I've only been able say anything and make my decision because I got over the fear of being shunned
@KangKush
@KangKush 3 года назад
All I can seen is religion is deception, no logic behind it yet people so deeply believe in this stuff when most of these religions was pushed onto blacks through slavery to keep them more mentally inslaved, Im not saying you should believe in god or not but one thing I know for certain is that in our reality and natural world it’s all irrelevant and was created through human ideology because of how intelligent we are. I feel bad for the people who subscribed to this religion thinking they are gonna get another life after death
@KangKush
@KangKush 3 года назад
Alec Alberti I asked for proof, not a link to a website, but I already know I’m not gonna get proof because all the proof is supposed to come from the Bible but the Bible is written by men and is human ideology, no matter how you slice it or spin it the Bible is man made and mankind put there own ideas and morals onto the pages due to us having intelligence and free thinking, none of it is real and has no relevance in nature or our reality, I wonder why people hold these false teachings so dearly to their heart, but I know it’s been pushed on you from generations to generations through indoctrination and the fact that people know the Bible is man made and even white washed for the matter yet still follow it just shows there’s something else you are chasing, and that’s a second life to heaven or wherever you think you’ll end up after you’re dead, the Bible creates this false reality of an after life and people who are scared of death flock to it they don’t even really know if this is real themselves but they just have faith that if they die they’ll end up in a better place. That’s why church has so many old people in it, these people where not devoted to god that much to where they’re going to church every Sunday, as soon a people hit 40 they wanna be super Christians, but what about all them kids you had out of wedlock and all the fornicating. As soon as death is creeping up you wanna be baptized? Huh?
@oluwafemiakintola9166
@oluwafemiakintola9166 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experience, I'm presently having the same problem, and I'm totally confused, I've been a witnesses all my life, I'm 48yrs old now, I just get frustrated with all the teaching and believe, please what is PIMO?
@exjw.believer.philippines
@exjw.believer.philippines 3 года назад
@@oluwafemiakintola9166 PIMO - Physically In Mentally Out.
@jomzkified
@jomzkified Год назад
@@oluwafemiakintola9166 PIMO - physically in, mentally out
@liplockednomore
@liplockednomore 3 года назад
I was so terrified when I first started watching as a PIMO, I used a fake name! Now that I've DAed I want to help others. Thank you for helping expose the borg.🌻👏💛
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Susan Brewer the fear is real and it is part of the normal process of leaving I was scared to death when I ordered rays book We had an Elder who worked at the post office I knew Jehovah would reveal me to the brother and I would be in trouble Looking back now I can't believe it JT
@kirkpeters8043
@kirkpeters8043 3 года назад
The congregation "heavies" held a meeting with me in 1970 when I was 16. I couldn't accept the practice of shunning, the belief of killing all but JWs at Armageddon and the hypocrisy within the congregation. You can imagine how I was viewed for voicing any of that. Glad I did it but for the pain it caused my dad and how it altered our relationship. That still hurts today. This org is not Christ like. It is destructive.
@ronhansen8471
@ronhansen8471 Год назад
When you look to man what would you expect? It is only destructive to those who cannot accept the truth
@alg7322
@alg7322 3 года назад
I recall years before I left, I asked myself what if this is not the truth? After a bad experience led me to examine the organization. This brought me to the conclusion that I was worshiping men in the name of God. I could not attend another meeting. Romans 6:16
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb 3 года назад
THAT'S a. VERY good POINT IT'S good critical thinking keep it up.
@marysanders4649
@marysanders4649 3 года назад
I am happy God lead you away from this evil organization.
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 3 года назад
JWs are controlled by 8 old men not by the teachings of Jesus. They teach you Must be guided by their Watchtower to understand the Bible. Their Bible is missing scriptures & says "A God" v " Was God."
@deejay7535
@deejay7535 3 года назад
Amen!!!!!!!! Preach!
@feliciasmartt8686
@feliciasmartt8686 3 года назад
I stay next door to one she don't like me and her and her husband do the stupidest things like make weird noises she don't like me cause I didn't believe the things she was telling me she tried to get me to join be I didn't I got just in time.
@ExJWStillFading
@ExJWStillFading 3 года назад
The comparison you made of being a slave and seeing what happened to other slaves that spoke up vs being a witness and seeing what happens to other witnesses that speak up is an excellent comparison. Back in the day it wasn't easy to just speak up, fight back, or run away. Many people dont realize how big of an influence culture and mentality can affect groups of people. Thankfully, my family hasnt shunned me, but i know if I say anything to my friends ill be in deep trouble. Thanks for your videos
@leeleemee
@leeleemee 3 года назад
ExJW Still Fading The works of Dr. Francis Cress Welsing are enlightening.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
ExJW Still Fading take your time The day will come when your fear of those you leave behind will fade Take your time do what you have to do to survive the transition process JT
@derekjoye6417
@derekjoye6417 3 года назад
Wow! Brother deep...but!!whole system based on slavery!!. Both guys that got u here.wanted more.knew slave class.the why!! It s in their teaching
@derekjoye6417
@derekjoye6417 3 года назад
Sorry comment.repy..if you.did pay attention!!.to something in life.something not right!! Jw.org.. Knew of what z happing..book company turned off.internet..next cash 🐄...i know people.lived still live 2020.
@derekjoye6417
@derekjoye6417 3 года назад
For many!! It was a way of life!..today we thanks too this location.i get to say what i really feeling..and u can see my real..share some stories location.
@dannycasey2832
@dannycasey2832 3 года назад
In 1999 I was awake and walked into a Christian bookstore to order Ray's book. I figured if I got caught in there I could say I was ordering a Strongs Concordance. . It's amazing how I had to cover what I was up to back then. And I was in a small town of only 7,000.
@allthingsdelightful8565
@allthingsdelightful8565 3 года назад
I ordered mine online and was still living at home. I had to run home the day it was delivered to keep parents from opening my mail to see what was in that. Sigh.
@dannycasey2832
@dannycasey2832 3 года назад
@@allthingsdelightful8565 I totally understand!
@locojazz5770
@locojazz5770 3 года назад
At 16 elder pressured me to get baptized.. I’m like Jesus wasn’t 16 when he got baptized, then he told me “are you questioning Jehovah?” Trying to put fear in the developing love I had for Jehovah. Little did I know... the *organization* of “JW” literally has nothing to do with Jehovah.
@jdstep97
@jdstep97 3 года назад
LOCO JAZZ - I'd have asked him "are you questioning Jesus?" Since Jesus was fully grown when he was baptized.
@caseyhoffman228
@caseyhoffman228 3 года назад
I was scared too, as a child. I have so much I could share. It’s not right how they used to run their congregations - and still do.
@locojazz5770
@locojazz5770 3 года назад
Nia Bain and they (Governer Body) got a LOT of NERVE using Jehovah name under an Awake! and Watchtower rules talking bout we are JW when they are *Watchtowers Witnesses*
@JC-be5cc
@JC-be5cc 3 года назад
@@locojazz5770 don't ever get baptize, you'll lose your family just like i did and many more
@locojazz5770
@locojazz5770 3 года назад
J C I didn’t get baptized; I do not let my relationship with Jehovah: Yeweh: The Creator (whatever you call a higher order that brings us life and death) define me because of some pyramid religious controlled by the (GOVERNOR BODY) that says you can only have a *“rEaL rElAtIoNsHiP wItH jEhOvAh”* if you follow under my (Watchtower Society) rules
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
*"You reach the point where you just can't keep making excuses"* - That was *_exactly_* what happened to me.
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 3 года назад
Personal loss was also experienced before we came along. The scene we have before us, Is one that's been designed purposely Born in the mind of the almighty He trims and racks, Zigs and Zags Throughout the pages of history In the interests of obedient humanity To accomplish His will. In the meantime, prophecy is being fulfilled. And Faith in God's word is being built. In the land once ruled by rasputin Men and women of faith are being imprisoned and beaten Tortured and with fines they're threatened Which happened in this same world by the Roman's. But Ezekiel foretold Gog would be made to do some turning When a single mother was being awarded, a sister,for her child rearing skills, seen as a fine example Just recently, He then turned around and banned witnesses ,considering them as extreme. Is that the meaning of " turn around" in chapter 38 of Ezekiels prophecy ? Who can stop The Almighty ??
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
@@compositioncompilation - What?
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Efrain Rivera Junior Vernell getting TOO DEEP for me I'm just a country boy from NC JT
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
ExJW Critical Thinker - 🤣
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 3 года назад
@@EfrainRiveraJunior Just as Noah and his family Were the objects of mockery Jesus said, for the last days, it would similarly be. Don't these , serve as tests Don't they test the genuineness Of those who claim to bear witness To the faithful who stay awake And are unwilling to be quickly shaken from their faith or reason. They are NOT alarmed , they are not disarmed. Of 8 men in a room The Empathy present within the minority Would vote in a loving policy It's almost as jesus put it "The love of the greater number would grow cold" Those feeling the cold, less love than they had hoped Draw courage from those warning words With an iron rod, they sheperd . Not the traditional tool used But when you've been through And see what happens to others too You realise, there's no hook on the rod that was on the sheperd staff once used to rescue . That hook belonged to the first coming Jesus demonstrated clearly his non judgemental approach Oozed with Empathy. Not so with his second coming.. But then again.. The nation's have to be placed in a controversy.. So perhaps that's why it must be how it is Temporarily. Which is where Ezekiel 38 Is it verse 3 ? Comes in. Where Tsars were once ruling Already, they're following their script and we too can follow the scene. Banned, extreme, property confiscated From those accumulating property.step by step, we see the fulfillment of prophecy. We were warned, the final attack would not be pretty But all will be swell in the finale. Expunging all enemies of happiness from humanity Paradise under incorruptible testes co rulers, men and women, ruling as kings I'm glad they re fully tested. . Look around, watch the news..you ll see what a good thing that is
@dannycasey2832
@dannycasey2832 3 года назад
The older brother talking about "Nothing wrong with being on the internet" made sooo much since. Bless you for these videos
@cornelghatez5979
@cornelghatez5979 3 года назад
Nothing wrong with the Internet. This is the greatest lie i have heard in this year 2020. The Internet is filled with access to so many lies and porns. Predators trying to sexchat with under ages and hackers. The inter is good as well as very bad too. If you don't have a proper self discipline
@dannycasey2832
@dannycasey2832 3 года назад
@@cornelghatez5979 I agree. It's like the old telephones. You could call your loved one or you could set up a murder. Depends on your heart as to how you use it.
@johnbookersr.6696
@johnbookersr.6696 3 года назад
I am an ex JW you guys telling it like it is, keep it up!!😁😍
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
john booker sr. Thz
@mariaparente5309
@mariaparente5309 3 года назад
Bless you Brothers! The "Truth" has set you (and me) free.
@leahmelton5776
@leahmelton5776 3 года назад
Yes!!! There IS life outside the Watchtower. Its called freedom!!! Yessss
@johnnyruins9025
@johnnyruins9025 3 года назад
Excellent Excellent what great points you make it is not so easy for a lot of jw to walk away from this false cult
@michaels8530
@michaels8530 3 года назад
I was a witness for 50 years....now out for two years. The paper clip illustration is good. I have said it's like peeling an onion, each layer that you remove makes you cry!😥 Why, o, why did I stick with it! But so much better out and free😊 Thankyou both for your informative and interesting videos, we've been watching for a while now.
@snowwhite2709
@snowwhite2709 3 года назад
After 50 years, was it one thing or a bunch that finally set you free?
@michaels8530
@michaels8530 3 года назад
@@snowwhite2709 Even when young, I put things on the shelf and did what I was told....wait on Jehovah. But from 1999 onwards that became harder, especially with 'new thoughts' that kept being added. In 2017 a dear young sister committed suicide, she had been a victim of CSA. And that was it, the shelves started collapsing and at the same time close friends were being hounded. Also I had been struggling with basic teachings...was the flood real, how did the kangaroos get there!...Why so much approved violence in the Bible? Shunning is not biblical. So much, it takes time to process it all, and my wife and I are continally doing so. But sooo happy.
@snowwhite2709
@snowwhite2709 3 года назад
Great you are happy being free. Me too.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Michael S now we are out that is all that matters now JT
@michaels8530
@michaels8530 3 года назад
Oh indeed. Thankfully free!😁
@j.j.1064
@j.j.1064 3 года назад
My cousin was in the army and one day the colonel came into the mess room and said; any complaints lads ? And under the watchful eye of the corporal and Sargent everyone said No sir! The colonel smiled and said fine! Carry on sergeant! ; and left.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
J. J. Hi the beating will continue until morale improves JT
@laymanphil8513
@laymanphil8513 3 года назад
Over time this worship will become more and more exciting to observe. This organism at the end of its life will try by all means to postpone its enivitable end. This defense mechanism will be particularly interesting to analyze.
@hanswerner145
@hanswerner145 3 года назад
One also needs to remember that it is a culture where people simply parrot answers. They personally do not reason on the scriptures, are incapable of doing contextual study, and are kept busy in what is an exercise in utter futility. Any organization, regardless of what it may be, when it no longer functions as a tool but becomes a master, it poses a serious threat to the individual. Prominent ones in the organization are experts in the rules but are Biblical illiterates. They are capable of giving impressive talks but repeatedly misuse the scriptures. In the Publications, there is never time where one cannot find that the context of the scriptures has been ignored. The writers are completely unaware of their errors.
@teahoney15
@teahoney15 3 года назад
So very true.
@regietayros1121
@regietayros1121 3 года назад
The Governing Body doing their own apostasies,am I right? I'm Filipino ex jw here in the Philippines.
@regietayros1121
@regietayros1121 3 года назад
A real reason why I left jw because these organization is full a lots lies according to their doctrine.A Christian's foundation of faith is the Bible and some years later I descovered that my beliefs is on to the way of destruction because GB filling lies to families,relatives and friends so I'm out.
@sheliasunday7744
@sheliasunday7744 3 года назад
EXCELLENT! So on point. In 1989 I totally got out. No internet and yes at a Christian bookstore is where I found Ray’s book. I’m 63 now and how my life took a turn, all for the better I can say. Thanks for all you guys do. Today’s ex-jws are blessed to have help to see this organization for all the lies it’s founded on. 🙏🏽
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Shelia Sunday yes life is better
@lynngurley8160
@lynngurley8160 3 года назад
Awesome video! Knowledge is power!
@Godly-Beard
@Godly-Beard 3 года назад
So TRUE!!!!
@laymanphil8513
@laymanphil8513 3 года назад
Thank you for your wise insight. The more we think, the more we resonate and the more the watchtower becomes absurd. Many thanks for your liberating video.
@Fingertipsable
@Fingertipsable 3 года назад
I opened my (big) mouth starting in 73 in Brooklyn. NO PROBLEM AT ALL! I just never became a MS or elder until 2014 when I finally left. Sorry about my wife and kids because they were ashamed for me.But as a rebel you enjoy alot of freedom.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Fingertips Haensel don't feel bad they played all of us The difference is we stopped allowing them to play us JT
@postculthygge
@postculthygge 3 года назад
Thank you to all 3 of you. Your work is helping me in unimaginable ways. Forever grateful to you.
@laymanphil8513
@laymanphil8513 3 года назад
The Communist Party of the USSR fell from within. However, anyone who strayed from the path was punished. The more PIMO there are, the more the line of the Jehovist party will weaken and end up breaking like the USSR.
@jamesbovington8218
@jamesbovington8218 3 года назад
This is a good comparison as lots of Soviet Communists gave their lives to a philosophy that ultimately proved hollow and empty. Watchtower may well end up the same.
@CGKreations
@CGKreations 3 года назад
The Chinese Communist Party is infiltrating working on pushing there propaganda around the world.
@darrengreen9273
@darrengreen9273 3 года назад
Great point!!
@georgesotiroff5080
@georgesotiroff5080 3 года назад
Dear Layman Phil, The (Communist) system of the Soviet Union was not reformable. The system, never very workable to begin with, had run out of steam regardless of any applied suppression or repression. Gorbachev tried to reform the system but could only oversee its peaceful collapse. As the vast apostate army grows and grows and the Pimos also grow in number the cult will weaken until it finally collapses. The growth of the opposition to the WTB&TS is akin to a snowball rolling down a hill, just growing and growing. The contraction of membership is already becoming difficult for even the most devout to ignore.
@laymanphil8513
@laymanphil8513 3 года назад
@@georgesotiroff5080 This is exactly what I think. The collapse of the watchtower is inevitable. This cult cannot be reformed because it is dogmatic. This cult is an infernal machine which will continue to feed itself by reinterpreting its own interpretations until the implosion. Above all, do not trust the big and wide smile of the 8 Warwick gurus because they will keep smiling until the last second of their own collapse. Bonsoir de France.
@elisenieuwe4649
@elisenieuwe4649 3 года назад
Yes, bait & switch what they always remind me of.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Elise Nieuwe but we kept buying it over and over is the sad part Until we decided not to JT
@thisguy2917
@thisguy2917 3 года назад
These videos are amazing and a public service.
@elizabethlevine4263
@elizabethlevine4263 3 года назад
This channel has and continues to support all those who come to an accurate knowledge of truth. Thank you JT and Lady Cee for always being dignified and kind in your videos. You’ve helped so many. ❤️
@riveravon5296
@riveravon5296 3 года назад
I’m a pimo for 5 years. And having fun seeing this demon organization crumble. Just waiting for my beloved wife and part of her family to come to realize the same. Already helped my son out of this mess. Still believe in God but not quite the same as theirs. Thanks for your efforts.
@bayouboy6668
@bayouboy6668 3 года назад
Thank you for helping me to fully awaken. i was never going to be a jw but I was still indoctrinated thinking something was wrong with me for not being able to commit to rules that just never made sense to me. I mean since i was still a child of 12/13 years old. your video content gave me directions to how to get my own answers.
@marcusgreene5588
@marcusgreene5588 3 года назад
I admit i started looking up older watch tower publications to see what they use to teach. Those publications were crazy, the teachings didn't make sense. I see why all bound volumes started in 1952.
@josephd27
@josephd27 3 года назад
Interesting
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Marcus Greene yes they are crazy and to think that folks risk their lives smuggling these crazy publications into countries and today the material if taught by any jw today would be apostate material since so much of it has been trashed JT
@michaelmartie6606
@michaelmartie6606 3 года назад
I was a witness for many years and leaving was like getting out of prison. These gentleman are speaking the truth, this mentality exists in the organization.
@nesnate4
@nesnate4 3 года назад
Once again another spot on video , the consequences of leaving this organization our basically catastrophic for a individual, they lose family and relationships with friends some lose business relationships, and you are then made to look like you lost your mind. Knowing all of this its very difficult for ones to leave.
@johnryan1798
@johnryan1798 3 года назад
So proud to see Jesus backing you up by allowing your message of the REAL TRUTH be translated in so many languages, even sign language!
@akatheheretic3014
@akatheheretic3014 3 года назад
Why , dear John This is the First thing you've said , that causes Me to actually believe there's Some Hope , for even YOU! 😉👍
@johnryan1798
@johnryan1798 3 года назад
@@akatheheretic3014 Sorry, no hope for me to join you. Just like, there's no hope for apostasy to catch up with Jehovah's Witnesses in their translating work! You guys have a long way to go!!! But, I'm sure you'll do fine, Jesus is helping! NOT, But, I'm sure you can get more support from Yeezus! Just tell Kanya West all the good work you are doing. He might even book you a concert revenue. Yeezus, imagine the audience you'll have there! It'll be like you'll have your very own 'convention'. Now that shouldn't be a problem now would it if you had Gods support, or even Kanyes?
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
Dude, *I* was scared off the internet for the longest time. When I first started doing research, I was literally shaking.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Efrain Rivera Junior dame here We were scared to death Thought demons would come out of the monitor screen
@laymanphil8513
@laymanphil8513 3 года назад
By dint of stiffening year after year, the watchtower will break from the inside with thousands of internal fractures. The end of this cult is inevitable. This worship leads nowhere except to the watchtower itself. Pathetic.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Layman Phil I'm not sure religion is a very adaptable entity The Catholic Church is clocking well over a 1000 yrs and is still the largest in the world Each new generation born you will find someone willing to buy the hope that religions often sell People who are hurting seek out religion and groups like jw find those hurting right at their doors JT
@laymanphil8513
@laymanphil8513 3 года назад
@@ExJWCriticalThinker With the difference that this cult claims to have the exclusivity of the truth. This is how this cult will collapse. It has already started and will continue. The further one gets from 1914, the more absurd this cult becomes. In France where I live (Coulommiers 77), there are more and more PIMOs who suffer in silence. I imagine there are more and more of them all over the world. Today the watchtower sits on a volcano. The more time passes, the stronger the pressure will be until the pressure is no longer bearable. The explosion will be strong and sudden. Its downfall is inevitable. The dice are rolled. Bonjour de France
@whyistheskyblue5515
@whyistheskyblue5515 3 года назад
Bait and switch. Ain’t that THE TRUTH.
@DY2784
@DY2784 3 года назад
Good morning guys. Exactly why I shall remain a PIMO for a while. It's mentally taxing, but I cannot afford emotionally to lose my family and friends. DY
@vaughnwoss4990
@vaughnwoss4990 3 года назад
Know what JT & Daniel? You made myself and my family start this morning with how we wanted it to be! Great thanks to both of you. Didactic video it is! Can't wait for more and more and more. I've shared this to many, including a nasty c/o whose cell phone number is still with me!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Vaughn Woss you are welcome
@dannycasey2832
@dannycasey2832 3 года назад
Wow!!! Your Mom said No! Amazing bro
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
*Technology is a game-changer* - If it wasn't for the internet, I would have most likely wasted the rest of my life in that cult.
@sollasollew3208
@sollasollew3208 3 года назад
Very true, there are a lot of things kept in the dark when you study. I never knew people were disfellowshipped, that fact was laid bear after I was baptized when a member of our congregation was disfellowshipped, I was shocked at the time when I found out all that went along with this action, no association not even been able to talk to them.
@valeriediaz82
@valeriediaz82 3 года назад
I bought Ray Franz book, and I downloaded the secret elders book too 🤣
@Tomsnothere295
@Tomsnothere295 3 года назад
Good book smart man.
@Tomsnothere295
@Tomsnothere295 3 года назад
I read that book too I only wish I could have read it sooner.
@jasminewashington5953
@jasminewashington5953 3 года назад
Hello everyone I know it’s been a while, but I have some good news to share with you all. Every since I woke up back in July, I am able to start a whole new chapter in my life, which I am proud of myself of doing. One of them is actually getting myself prepared for getting involved in college next semester and if I’m good enough, joining Greek Life. However, I cannot tell you all which organization I’m joining, but I am looking forward aiming towards something I want to do instead of people judging me or scrutinizing my every move. I want to thank Ex JW Critical Thinkers, more specifically Lady Cee and JT for helping me see that there is life after watchtower and that I can live My life no matter what. I also want to thank everyone in the comments for commending and encouraging me to take the first steps into my own happiness. I hope one day I do share my story in you guys channel because I know it would help those to see that this so-called “true religion” is bogus. So thx again Critical Thinkers😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@marvelprince9893
@marvelprince9893 3 года назад
Awesome!!!
@arcellgreen4754
@arcellgreen4754 3 года назад
When you center your entire life around a religion or anything the consequences can be devastating
@Godly-Beard
@Godly-Beard 3 года назад
The older generation is fading away fast and this organization is having a difficult time in 2020 keeping younger people inside the cult. Because like you said they use the internet all the time & are not afraid of it, I really dont see this organization surviving 10 plus years...
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb
@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb 3 года назад
I. Hope ITS not THAT long 2. Years at the most or. Quicker
@Godly-Beard
@Godly-Beard 3 года назад
@@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb I hope so too! the decline is happening in front of our eyes many people are walking away. And like any business it will not survive unless their is customers /members.
@brendagordon4571
@brendagordon4571 3 года назад
What's wrong with internet and googling. I do it all the time.
@queenology1014
@queenology1014 3 года назад
My parents raised my brother and sisters and I JW's he was the C.O Elder in the Congregation and he is Currently still an Elder, my Mother was a Regular Pioneer for 35 years! Out of 8 children only 2 still attend the Meetings still the rest of us were cut off and shunned from our parents for waking up and deciding not to go anymore! In December 2019 My Mother Passed away from Severe Cirrhosis of the liver!!! Talk about Hypocrisy, While my step dad was disfellowshipping people for minor offenses he watched his loving wife Drink herself to death and she knocked on doors until the day she died recruiting for the Org but cut her kids off! I am glad i left years ago, once i starting asking questions they sent the Elders to my door I never answered and never went back!
@adalcarol4524
@adalcarol4524 3 года назад
"Culture is eating the truth for breakfast...". So true. I love the aphorism. In most of the Churches, sectarian cultures have long eaten the truth of the gospel of Christ not only for breakfast but for lunch & dinner as well.
@valeriediaz82
@valeriediaz82 3 года назад
It’s ridiculous, grown adults are running around being tattle tails 🙄
@Deep.Purple
@Deep.Purple 3 года назад
Spiritual policemen. Thats how they keep their sheep near the contribution box.
@Trust-the-vibe333
@Trust-the-vibe333 3 года назад
@@Deep.Purple 😂😂😂
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 3 года назад
Was it jesus that said he came to put a sword between fathers and sons,mothers and daughters... family members,and not for peace ? How was that fulfilled ?
@bernadette4484
@bernadette4484 3 года назад
I've studied with them, but never became one. I know the cult has complete control of a JW member family, to the point a family member will tattle- tale on each other & if you do something wrong or don't attend the meetings, they'll shun you. I've seen this behavior it's horrible. Like a Cult Movie
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 3 года назад
@@bernadette4484 As jesus himself said ," my sheep listen to my voice", so ,to whom, should his followers listen ?? If the teachings of jesus meant they ,classified him as leader of a sect What ought we to expect today ??
@patriciahines7127
@patriciahines7127 3 года назад
Thanks 😊 for sharing . Excellent video , and the truth . JWS do not want you to question the governing body .
@derekjoye6417
@derekjoye6417 3 года назад
And parents still don't want to own up. If they fought for their children right in front. Always looking for new victims
@oscarc5391
@oscarc5391 3 года назад
JT another really good video that challenges people to think about what they believe ,but what you said is so true about how some who have been in so long know something is not right but like a gambler who thought he put all his chips on a bet that he thought was a sure Win and is starting to realize it not going to happen but is to afraid to face the real truth about that bet .I have a brother in law who was a former elder and bethelite who still is so happy to see me when I'm back in the USA he sees I have a beard and he knows I haven't been to a meeting in years we just have an unspoken rule not to talk about how I'm doing in the (Truth) but there are so many things I would like to show him but I know it would only force him to have to stop talking to me .he is in him mid 70 and I'm in my mid 60 he has been a witness since he go back from the vietnam war .for some people the Truth about the Truth would just break them .and I just can't do that to them ,so for me when it comes to telling or showing witnesses the Truth about the Truth it has for one to do with there age and if I think it will hurt them more than help them
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
oscar C53 we agree We believe that some people need to remain jw They need someone to tell them what to do Wt will do that for them For those of us who who want to actually use our God given brain This religion is not for us JT
@lovermanski2
@lovermanski2 3 года назад
GREAT JOB 👌
@jonathanbassett3816
@jonathanbassett3816 3 года назад
Daniel looks like he always ready to break into some 90s RnB. ! Love the videos guys, keep them up.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
We were all dupped into this organization, and all the facts were hidden from us. That's why I will eventually try to get our baptism annulled.
@jonathanbassett3816
@jonathanbassett3816 3 года назад
Probably won't let that happen, but I wish you luck.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
@@jonathanbassett3816 - Yeah, it would cost a lot of money to do so. But I'm getting ready for it.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Efrain Rivera Junior why ? If the wt is bogus what does that make your "baptism" Why would you want to spend time annulling a bogus baptism? At that point you have to ask is your baptism between you and Christ or you and an American 501c corporation based out of the USA We worked for a book publishing company and they fooled us into thinking getting dipped into some water meant we now had a relationship with Christ Our baptism had no more value and you dipping your kids in the pool in the summer time We got bamboozled and hoodwinked Nothing we did for the wt corporation brought us closer to God We merely bought shares in an oil well company that has not drilling rigs or oil wells They sold us on the glossy brochures Like I said How do you nullify a worthless and bogus baptism ? Just asking have you every thought critically about it ? JT
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
@@ExJWCriticalThinker - Excellent and fair questions. Well... 1. I don't care about that baptism. I'm not a religious person anymore anyways. 2. The principal behind this is the same one for which I didn't play into their game to get disfellowshipped. I didn't want to give them the satisfaction period. They worked hard to try and get me disfellowshipped during these past two years. But since I know how to play their own rules, it didn't happen, LOL! Once again, I don't care had they disfellowshipped me. I just enjoyed watching them squirm and did not allow them to call my name from the platform. 3. What I do want is for them to destroy my records, which may never happen even if they were court-ordered to do so. But if I could get my baptism annulled, to me, it would be hilarious (Yeah, I know. I have a weird sense of humor.) - "Hey, dude. I heard you was disfellowshipped." - "Nah, man. I was never even baptized." - "What do you mean you was never baptize? I was there! You trippin'?" - "I got my baptism annulled, my friend." (*Drop the mic) LOL!
@Tomsnothere295
@Tomsnothere295 3 года назад
Baptism is a baptism for christianity it does not matter if your Catholic or JW you are baptized into Christianity.
@wysteriaherr8306
@wysteriaherr8306 3 года назад
Two days ago I told my mom that I didn't believe in the JW belief. I really need some help. Is there a way I can contact Lady Cee? I could really use her advice and wisdom.
@JC-be5cc
@JC-be5cc 3 года назад
I hope everything works out for you. Its rare but a few have kept their family, i have my 🤞 that your one of the lucky ones
@wysteriaherr8306
@wysteriaherr8306 3 года назад
@@JC-be5cc thank you. She says there is nothing that would cause her to turn her back on me. All of this came up because I told her I wanted to remarry.
@wysteriaherr8306
@wysteriaherr8306 3 года назад
@Alec Alberti thank you
@deejay7535
@deejay7535 3 года назад
Wysteria Herr Hey😀 there is a HUGE exjw community here and on Reddit. Just know that you are not alone and can talk with just about anyone👍
@DVines-sz4nn
@DVines-sz4nn 3 года назад
Got commercials do we? ✨👌😁 I Hope you end up with 5 million subscribers! Now to watch the video! 😊
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
DiAna Vines just trying to help whoever is willing to question the wt We can provide the questions for them to ask of themselves JT
@kingsaintides7227
@kingsaintides7227 3 года назад
Only people without youtube prime see the ads
@TheRedgarage
@TheRedgarage 3 года назад
Can you imagine any 18 yr olds out there today, getting contacted by JWs for the first time, googling it, and saying, “Yea, this is legit.” ? Our kids our smarter than we were. They will ask questions and do research.” There’s only so much room under a 200 year old rug.
@inapickle4971
@inapickle4971 3 года назад
My daughter turned me in for buying the book “Emotional Blackmail” and now she mostly shuns me.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Ina Pickle wow that was the book we often recommend too Very good
@charlesmorris6476
@charlesmorris6476 3 года назад
Jesus said it in Matthew 10;36, “ indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household.” The reason your daughter now shuns you is because of the eight wolves in WT. headquarters appearing as the authority of Jesus Christ and wearing God’s robes, so to speak, masquerading as a god and the sole authority and word of God. 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, prophesies this. There is a great apostasy occurring now within JW.org. Apostle Paul is describing the time period of the last days and of Christ’s return telling Christians that immediately preceding Christ return and his executing of judgment there would be a great apostasy within Christ’s congregation, and, that this apostasy was according to the power of Satan. NWT
@judyruiz5710
@judyruiz5710 3 года назад
I grew up a witness. He is not lying about any of this. It was crazy. Mental control to the fullest.
@justinporter458
@justinporter458 3 года назад
It's great to be dissociated now for 2 years. I'm lonely but I'm getting used to it. I visited 7 different church's just to find new friends but stopped because I just don't believe the bible anymore. God loved the world so much that he forgave Adam eve and Satan but did smack their bottoms and took Satan's horns ,pitchfork and talking snake of him for a week, just forgive them no human sacrifice no torture stake no 6045 years of human suffering just very sore bottoms. Oh God your the one who put that evil pumpkin tree there oh you 3 naughty children next time you disobey me I'll make you ware fig leaves and hard hats.
@anneapostate4819
@anneapostate4819 3 года назад
I love the reasoned way in which you address topics. It serves to reinforce my decision to leave that mind controlling Organisation. Keep it up.
@knowthyself8233
@knowthyself8233 3 года назад
Free mason
@CGKreations
@CGKreations 3 года назад
I have a neighbor who is a JW the self centeredness is amazing critical thinking is not in her vocabulary cause I told her she needs to use it. I told her I do not walk around in fear of man. She changes the subject I don’t like having to dumb down in conversation I’d rather just say hello & keep it moving.
@ziggylaurie2268
@ziggylaurie2268 3 года назад
I know, a friend I thought I could trust went right to the elders with a personal issue I was having. It took her 3 hours and she ran to an elder. I’m PIMO, I just to get my life together
@jlorbison
@jlorbison 3 года назад
God Bless you for sharing your information. I have family members that are JW's I pray for them daily that they will wake up.
@authortitom.bradley2972
@authortitom.bradley2972 3 года назад
I totally agree. I hate I waited so long to leave that cult.
@cosymedia2257
@cosymedia2257 3 года назад
Exactly what my sister older told me yesterday... She sees the wrong but she can't talk about it with anybody there... Also, she's caught in it still believing she's in "the truth" because Jehovah is God (like nobody but the organization delivered that to her... in her mind it means that they know better SOMEHOW) she needs something to hang on / rely on religiously... She just forgot who a Christian should rely on (because of the WTBS teaching) that denies (and take) Christ' seat/authority using the bible (which is not the Word of God in itself) and the tetragrammaton (which is not a name but a concept - Jahwhe is the only (not often used by the way) given name of God in that book) using a made name etymologically awfull Je (stands for yod = the essence of everything) hovah meaning: disaster, ruin, calamity.... But they know better right ? (like Luciferians who know how to turn heads over hills).
@CS-np2oo
@CS-np2oo 3 года назад
The opportunity cost is outrageously HIGH. The trade off in your time and potential on lost earnings is beyond ridiculous. I was dragged in by my mom who was 46 and still 'zealous' at 70. I got the hell out at 34 and have never looked back. My happiness has never been this high. My wife (worldly ) and I just had our 7th anniversary. About to close our house. I've done more positive things in my life since fading. JT my mother at 70 is that very person who will not pick up her phone or text me back. It is sad. Good riddance WT !
@chuckp3131
@chuckp3131 3 года назад
Jehovah witnesses are very loving people as long as you agree with them . And never question the watch tower never!!!!!!!!
@ziggylaurie2268
@ziggylaurie2268 3 года назад
Conditional love....
@zachgordon
@zachgordon 3 года назад
I'm reminded of some wise wise historical words, "The any thing we have to fear, is fear itself." The fear is the final factor that keeps us where we are in life, or in the situation of things where we are.
@lindiasanders3948
@lindiasanders3948 3 года назад
I started doing real research maybe a few years after I got baptized,before I got baptized I was able to read many older publications ,so once in I knew they change what they believed from 1930's -1970's older books I bought from the book room when I was studying ,but JT something happened when I was going over my last set of baptismal questions I was about 23 years old ,single parent raised in the Baptist Religion Well know Gospel Singers as Couisons.My father told me this " He said whenever your first mind or your first guy feeling to do or not to do something listen to it and I would make the right decision He said ,he felt that it was my concious or holy spirit that leading me to do or make the right decision My Father was a Critical Thinking man ,very communicative with me ,very close Father daughter relationship,When I was going over my last set of questions I had them with an elder at the Kingdom Hall ,but we got their early before congregation.The sister I studied with and her husband and their 1 child was who I was riding with .The Elder asked that we go up to the front of the Kingdom Hall ,now nobody was up there but us,So the questions started but about half way through the Baptismal Questions he did something that i would call Obcene Jesture and it was offensive I had to turn my head away from him and answer the rest of the questions,My first thought for him to do this this religion got some creepy things going on in it it is not what it is processing to be,My Gut feeling you need to stop this now and say you have changed your mind about getting baptized and leave this ____ Alone and never have any close dealing with these people I did not do what my Father told me ,but JT after Baptism I felt fro m just research of literature that this was a Fake ,False ,Lying Religion I left at one point after 16 years,but went back because the internet had come out and eventually I could research to the moon and back and all my questions answered about the Organization now all together I stayed 32 years but about the last five I was backing up did only enought to stay active but when they changed their stand on 1914 and started making othe doctrinal changes and when I found out they were NGO members i said I'm leaving this for good and I did ,but sometimes I wonder i knew it was Not the truth deep down but continuing to stay JT I believe I stayed that long to come to this realization to me All organized religion at this time on earth is False,therefore I have no desire or reason to get Sucked back in to it.Remember I came from a strong Religious Baptist Background But I respect other people who want to be apart of a Religious Organization ,and I am respectful of Other Religious Organazations but "Religion is a Snare and a Racket" as one President o f the Watchtower said.He told the truth that one time.
@marvelprince9893
@marvelprince9893 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing your experience.
@JC-be5cc
@JC-be5cc 3 года назад
@@marvelprince9893 what obscene gesture?
@lindiasanders3948
@lindiasanders3948 3 года назад
@@marvelprince9893 an Obsence Jesture of a Sexual Type I will not go more specific thant that Have a good day
@tamraholmes3082
@tamraholmes3082 3 года назад
It is sad & amazing how people have more loyalty to the org than to their families. They "tattle" just like kids if you ask a question or present an old JW article that calls into question something they are currently doing. The pressure of conforming is so hard that they have to shun the ones who leave, and I believe its out of envy. After all, we're not the ones sitting down for zoom meetings dressed up with the cameras on - we're actually out living our lives.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
"How do this thing keep going on and on?" - It's called "The Sunk Cost Fallacy."
@Diana-rg7gk
@Diana-rg7gk 3 года назад
If I knew what I have learned about the history of the watchtower and all their man made rules. I never would have become a witness. I do not have any of my family members in the watchtower. I not not approve of their shunning policy or blood policy. I will never be apart of a religion that protects the molester over the victim.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
I was turned in by my brother, who no longer talks to me. It's been two years now. What was my sin? I posted the "Welcome to Bethel" video on my Facebook page and later questioned him about 1925, Beth Sarim, and the Two Witness Rule.
@JC-be5cc
@JC-be5cc 3 года назад
Sorry for your loss
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
J C - Thanks. We lost all our J-Dub family and former friends. But it’s really _their_ lose.
@brendagordon4571
@brendagordon4571 3 года назад
Observe, family members turned each other in?!!! I find that very hard to believe.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
@@brendagordon4571 - Then you know nothing about the Jehovah’s Witnesses cult.
@brendagordon4571
@brendagordon4571 3 года назад
Sorry 😞 that is so sad. I'm the only JW in my biological family.
@cwilliams1620
@cwilliams1620 3 года назад
Would you all consider doing a video on the subject of Marriages within the Kingdom Hall and the policies on divorce? Wives and or husbands dealing with drug abuse and/or domestic violence from their spouse? Someone lying to a person that they are engaged to and after their married telling them the truth and how the Elders encourage the decieved spouse to stay in the marriage? Also the "unscriptual divorces" and the penalties on that? With all of your experience as Witnesses' I know you all have heard and have came across some horror stories.
@cdisnute216
@cdisnute216 3 года назад
💯🔥💥🔥💯 I know this is true. I grew up JW & left @ 15 years old. I was turned in by family because I questioned this religion after I would not take The Vow @Bethel! Yes, I saw the real TRUTH @ Bethel. It opened my eyes & I went back home & my family was angry & ashamed of me. I did not CARE. I took their cruel punishment & went forward with my life. Today I am a much better person & living a blessed life!
@ziggylaurie2268
@ziggylaurie2268 3 года назад
They DO break up families. People get re-instated because they want to talk to their family and friends. Another thing, if they are so confident that it’s THE TRUTH, then the internet shouldn’t intimidate them
@yolettemilord548
@yolettemilord548 3 года назад
There will be wailing and the gnashing of teeth on the day Governing Body jump ship.
@williamhinton4972
@williamhinton4972 3 года назад
Because there are sheep being lend to slaughter .I said things back in the day and got prosecuted for it.And I never got the stamp of approval. All of my buddies are now elders and they are all miserable. Their wives are miserable. But they love the attention and all the perks that go with it. I called them cowards I wasn't going to allow that to happen to me .I lost my wife and she says I should come back. I will never ever go back to that he'll hole. Ever.
@kittylove2975
@kittylove2975 3 года назад
Lady C, JT, and Daniel are amazing people and do so much for helping the ex JW community ‼️ Thank you for your channel ‼️🌷🌸🌷
@topnotch2312
@topnotch2312 3 года назад
I remember I wanted to go to Bethel when I came in as a teen that changed a couple years later learning what Bethel was really like compared to how its portrayed.
@derekjoye6417
@derekjoye6417 3 года назад
Oooo i would kno. Mom join when i was 6or7- I'm 54 today i know.very well what's up
@southernbawselady7092
@southernbawselady7092 3 года назад
Derek Joye Happy Birthday! 🎂🎉🎉🎊🎈🎈🎵💃💃 Enjoy your freedom!! 🙌
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Derek Joye same here we were kids JT
@freeatlast.
@freeatlast. 3 года назад
Thanks for another great presentation guys 👌👍👌👍
@dalefountain9269
@dalefountain9269 3 года назад
The same thing happened in Germany in the 1930/1940's. Learn from history. Turn to Jesus, he will set you free. God bless you.
@RM-ll4zd
@RM-ll4zd 3 года назад
Promise of being made new ( perfect health, perfect eyesight etc.)is actually biblical & is a teaching in all Churches. If you’ve only been JW then you may think this teaching is exclusive to JW but it’s not.
@gailmiller6333
@gailmiller6333 3 года назад
R M 👍🏿Thank you!!!
@RM-ll4zd
@RM-ll4zd 3 года назад
Are you a witness Gail?
@annderby6295
@annderby6295 3 года назад
@RM It is a biblical teaching that Christians will receive these promises IN HEAVEN, NOT ON A PARADISE EARTH as taught by the JWs: 1 Corinthians 15:42-50: “So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body....................................” The JWs teach that these promises will be fulfilled only to JW Armageddon survivors on a Paradise Earth during Christ’s thousand-year reign. However, the Bible clearly states in Revelation 20, that the only thing that will be taking place during Christ’s thousand-year reign is the abyssing of Satan & the first HEAVENLY resurrection. The JWs teach that the new heavens of Revelation 21 already happened in 1914 and the new earth will happen during Christ’s thousand-year reign, yet Revelation 21 clearly states that the new heavens and new earth come AFTER Christ’s thousand-year reign has ended. The bible does not give any further details regarding the new earth at that time. The Live Forever on a Paradise Earth doctrine of the JWs is NOT biblical. Please also see www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/earth-forever.php Please also note that Revelation 16: 14, 16 states that Armageddon involves the kings of the whole world, JWs on the other hand teach that Armageddon will involve all of mankind and JWs will be the only survivors. It seems you're not aware that the JWs have distorted, misapplied, taken out of context and misinterpreted what the bible teaches in order to create their unique theology which sets them apart from Christianity. Another reason why the JW Live Forever on a Paradise Earth teaching does not make sense: JWs believe that only 144,000 JWs go to heaven while the majority of JWs will be Armageddon survivors on earth. The 144,000 will become perfect instantly on being resurrected to heaven, just as Adam & Eve were before their fall, while the JW Armageddon survivors on earth will not become perfect until the end Christ's thousand-year reign, so it will take them 1000 years to reach perfection while the 144,000 become perfect instantly on their resurrection to heaven. The JWs claim that during Christ's thousand-year reign mankind will be miraculously restored to perfection as Adam & Eve were before their fall. But there is no perfect\immortal state to be restored to since Adam & Eve were never created perfect/immortal in the first place. They were created mortal just as we are since they would have to eat of the tree of life in order to live forever so there is no perfect/ immortal state to be restored to.
@larryshaw73
@larryshaw73 3 года назад
This presentation is very important for people to understand how jehovah's witnesses misleading people
@jcolon68
@jcolon68 3 года назад
Another fantastic video!! Daniel and JT Killed it on this one!!
@alwayspure7709
@alwayspure7709 3 года назад
You know when I was in the JWs very briefly there was so much I wanted to change going in at 24 I didn't agree with the dating only witnesses. I didn't agree with only witnesses surviving Armageddon. I didn't like the whole judgemental atmosphere of beards and formal clothing. And I was looked at as crazy because I spoke up about it to an elder. And granted I didn't get "disciplined" cause I wasn't baptized but I know now that If I ever did I would've got disfellowshipped faster than you can say Jehovah. I left shortly after at 25 there are so many in that I want to help "wake up" but they just need to do it themselves imagine how hard is it to wake up an elder.. good luck with that.
@marwatson7408
@marwatson7408 3 года назад
It’s a highly controlled, pressured , manipulative, possessive group of people. After I awhile I said enough was enough and I wasn’t going to let these people control every aspect of my life anymore.
@KBQuick81
@KBQuick81 3 года назад
I was one those who watched all of your videos but too scared to subscribe, I am now a subscriber! Thank you for all of your encouraging work!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 3 года назад
Thanks for subbing!
@user-mp8qf5mq1k
@user-mp8qf5mq1k 3 года назад
Welcome!!!... ~turn off your brain, put on the "New Personality", don't make friends with those who "hate Jah", dont go to college, dont work full time ; watch, doubt and snitch on eachother, study, recruit members, don't ask any ?s , trust the GB even if it doesn't make sense, work harder, dont take blood, hand over your $$$, shun your loved ones, and very important, Act HAPPY... REPEAT.
@jomzkified
@jomzkified Год назад
Couldn't have summarized it better. I literally lol. Permission to copy. Id post this one day in my social media
@user-mp8qf5mq1k
@user-mp8qf5mq1k Год назад
@@jomzkified Of course, be my guest 🙂
@islandgirl5609
@islandgirl5609 3 года назад
Thank you for all you do❣️
@doug814
@doug814 3 года назад
I'm so glad I got DF'd. And thankful I worked through the anger about getting DF'd. It wasn't just anger it was blinding rage anger. The kind that can lead you to a life sentence. I'm slowly but surely moving on it has been hard. Nine years of it but it's happening. The anger is gone. The pain is subsiding. It was a hard road.
@errolcampbell6985
@errolcampbell6985 3 года назад
My youngest sister who is still in the organization turned 50 on Sunday September 13. My question to her was.....weren't we told that you would not reach 5 years old before Armageddon???
@grammargoddessNYC
@grammargoddessNYC 3 года назад
Freedom from fear. Amen!! Thanks y’all! Excellent, positive content that will help so many!! To the 60-plus% that’s watching, all I can say is come on over! The peace of mind will be the BEST EVER! (Lett and Morris been getting on your nerves for a while - we know! It’s a safe space here - you can tell us! 🤣😂)
@jehovisbutty2959
@jehovisbutty2959 3 года назад
Some great points you made here JT, growing up in the organisation in the 70’s and 80’s I did witness several disfellowshippings, and each one filled me with fear, then it was my turn in the early 90’s. As a consequence I suffered for years afterwards from some serious depression because I thought I was gonna die at armageddon. But we are all still here, and now armed with the information available to us, there is no need to fear anything. Thanks to channels like yours we are able to put the pieces together and see that the watchtower has been fooling people for well over a century now, and its us who are the enlightened ones, And I totally agree with you when you talk about those of the older generation who have spent 50+ or 60+ years serving the watchtower, and how for them it is almost impossible to leave after having committed all their lives to it. My elderly father is one of these, and if he ever found out the things we know, it would break him, and to be honest, I would rather him see his last few years out in blissful ignorance, than as a broken man. I love what you guys are doing, so keep up the good work my brother, as it is very much appreciated.
@6India1509PEV
@6India1509PEV 2 года назад
You JT and Lady C would be AMAZED If you new how you have helped Me and many others. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks!
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