Oh. I didn't realize there was an overlap, I though my RU-vid just glitched by introducing me these 2 channels. Well I am here now and I am here to stay.
I HAD THAT LAST DRESS! It's actually not called a "lolita costume" when it was listed on the website. It was the Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland inspired dress from Hot Topic (based on the dress she wore that the red queen had made out of the drapes)! I wore it for AGES as a normal dress, not lolita.
I have it too! And used it for photoshoots with my friends, came out great no regrets. Kinda wanna send them my favorite photoshoot image with that dress
Yesterday my friend needed me to be an extra in a historical film because they were running short. I didn't have a costume so I grabbed one of my edwardian OPs and rushed to set. *i have never felt like such a traitor before*
@@jackierocha5096 Actually pretty well! It wasn't a big budget film so me arriving with hair, makeup and clothes all done saved a lot of valuable time.
I went to the mall with friends. A teen said “I like your costume. “ I said “thanks but it’s not a costume. It’s a Japanese street fashion” they then said” I know” tHEn WhY dID yOu CaLl It A cOsTUme?!?!
@Olive Basically, there's a lot of people who are really into history and they do their best to be as accurate as possible in their clothing, down to their undergarments and what hairties or makeup they use. So it becomes very jarring for these people when others are very uninformed. Those who just genuinely dress up are not the problem, the ones who don't get that they are wearing something inaccurate while believing the opposite are the ones that upset people. Basically the same as with lolita fashion.
@@MariaJoseRangelUwU we have a saying in the SCA about that. Horned Vikings, not historically accurate. Horny Vikings, absolutely historically accurate. If someone is wearing REN Rat chic, I don’t judge. if I see cosplay poly satin or stretch velvet, I will judge the heck out of you!
If you're going to layer petticoats or wear a heavy underskirt, wear a corset with hip gores or padding. It keeps the pressure off of your waist and hips (if properly fitted). Just a tip!
YES!!! Sure, stays and corsets can cinch the waist, but the boning/stiffness also protects the soft flesh of the abdomen from petticoat and skirt-induced ouches. As far as I'm concerned, 18th century ladies had clothes figured out: linen shift, stays, then petticoats/padding/structure. Comfy on the inside, fashion on the outside. As it should be.... especially if air conditioning doesn't exist yet.
damn, am I the only one who thinks its a little sad that Lor had to put soooo many disclaimers at the beginning about Tyler just being there? I'm sure she had to do it because she's probably gotten shit in the past so I don't blame her. I just think it's a little annoying that some people can't go "i personally don't like Tyler" and then just... not click on the video. Sometimes you just don't vibe with a specific person and that's okay. Doesn't mean Lor can't be friends with her or do collabs with her. Anyway, loved the video
I HAVE THAT HOT TOPIC DRESS AT THE END, IT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THEIR ALICE & WONDERLAND COLLECTION YEARS AGO LIKE 2009- 2010ish? it wasn’t advertised as Lolita at the time when it was first sold, but now resellers are trying to sell it as Lolita lmao it’s really comfy and those hearts in the front are pockets!! : )
Fun fact: purple and green was a popular color combo in the mid to late 1800s. There are some wile 1890s dresses with that color palette and the huge leg-o-mutton sleeves.
@@DominiqueAnsell “catch these hands” is a term or expression people use when they are about to start a fight. it is used as a joke when someone disagrees with someone else. they do not actually intend to start a fight. this is just slag^^
17:58 No! The "harlots" of those days wouldn't be caught DEAD in that! At least they had the decency to wear shifts and stays! Even absurd Marie Antoinette would never.
9:41 - Strawberry Cupcake Dream OP (Angelic Pretty) 11:45 - Spider Queen of the Kingdom of Darkness JSK (ALICE and the PIRATES) 14:33 - Rainbow Clown OP (Angelic Pretty) 16:27 - Candy Idol OP (Angelic Pretty) 17:54 - Brûle Le OP (Baby, The Stars Shine Bright) 18:36 - Non-Copyright Alien JSK (Milanoo) 21:47 - Lovely Sweet Maiden having a Tea Party in the Sky Garden with Cloud Fairies and Nymphs OP (ALICE and the PIRATES) 23:03 - Romantic Rose OP (Innocent World) 23:54 - Skeleton JSK (Milanoo)
"have you ever been asked if what you're wearing is a...costume" .... That's my whole life lor, my whole life Oh and also don't worry, I'm fairy kei and I mean I don't think it could be used as fairy kei as the costume looks cheap and also not really pastel but I mean I can't blame you it's totally fine lol
I see the clown love started early lol. But in all seriousness your mom is so talented! The blue and pink heart clown one looks so cool and looks like *chef’s kiss* quality.
I feel bad for Tyler some times.. I know she's tough but the many many references to how we know shes not everyones cup of tea :( Love you Tyler. Eff the haters 🤷
@@doccrowley3367 some people know. Other people really think she's like that & they are very nasty about it .. hence why she gives such a disclaimer every time Tyler is in a video.
I love how the thumbnail for frock talk is Tyler in the bunny ears headband. Also you know it's going to be a good video when the salt content warning is the seagull noises. Oh man, time to buckle up and find out what horrible nonsense is on the market this year!
You’re allowed to laugh and mock. I’m currently sewing a JSK that is orange and black, with a border print of cats 🐈 on chimney stacks a la Mary Popins. Not meant to be truly Lolita, but I’m gonna wear it to a Convention because I’m making it. Not to a meet up because I’m not suicidal 😂 but to a Con definitely. I saw the fabric it cried out to be a JSK.
@@tohruchan6093 tbh it’s a seamstress sewing thing, we only see the parts of a project that we could have done better, all the points where things go wrong 😑. Self defense leads to self deprecation. I see so many beautiful things that I can’t find for myself, I’m going to have to take a skirt apart to make it fit me but I’m still going to do it so that I can wear it. But I feel guilty at the idea of remaking someone else’s work.
Lol Lor, "If they changed basically everything about it except the clown theme.....I'd buy it." As a fellow haunt creature, I feel ya. Female clowns have to custom build their costumes if they want anything remotely interesting.
WE DO IN FACT STAN TYLER!!!! Tyler X Lor collabs and lolita friendship is one of THE MOST wholesome things on the internet even with the swearing and the roasting!!! GOALS AND MUCH LOVE!!!!
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Adorable video! It baffles me that a person such as Tyler requires so many disclaimers though - intelligent, caustic wit is a brilliant asset!!!! Cute sugar & spice collabs like this wouldn't be possible without the duality. I looove you two together.
I can't remember how I first encountered Tyler, but after watching one LWLN episode, with salty takedowns of the latest releases, followed by the latest scandal which (of course) "started in RuffleChat", I was hooked. I'd never realised before a cute, frilly fashion could attract such controversy - and, of course, the visual dissonance between Tyler's outfits and delivery style (including the gravity-defying leans to camera, which, sadly, can't take place any more since she's bought The Desk) made her appeal even more. More recently, the wonders of Frock Talk, intermittently describing all the adorable features of one of her dresses, getting her boyfriend to point out bits she's missed, insulting bits of the US / world, and exchanging death threats with him. And, of course, the "Man vs Kawaii" special, where she realised he's paid far more attention to her preferred fashion than she thought.
WHO doesn't love Tyler? (Other than J.L.) You should NOW do a "Fixing "Costume" Lolita coords" vid where you correct the outfits...like editing them on a Wacom tablet or something...THAT would be cool.
I like to wear a small "casual" witch hat when I feel okay about myself and I've gotten screamed and laughed at in a dollar tree and a lot of people ask if my outfit is a costume... Nope, I just like it, it makes me feel cute. But I do cry when strangers talk to me like that.
I don’t know why I found the “You can mute the video and use another tab” so sweet, I just thought it kinda showed how Lor wanted to donate. Also I love her Captain America coordinate.
Thank you for introducing us to Across Boundaries, Lor! It's a really lovely initiative and I'm so glad that my alt fashion youtubers really out here doing the best
the invader zim corset i could actually imagine over a black or purple blouse, or even that green color lol, and tucked into(?) a high waisted black skirt like the atelier pierrot ones or something.. might want to replace the ribbons too.. if you really really wanted to you probably could make it.. work.. somehow >.< in terms of making it fit lolita silhouette-wise i think it's possible.
A lot of these "Lolita Costumes" feel more like just nice/okay dresses for a simple dress up party though that first dress if someone customises it would work nicely as a Pinkie Pie cosplay of sorts. Overall these dresses are fine as Halloween or party costumes just not as Lolita.
My go to place to donate in the USA right now is Trinity Place Shelter. It’s in NYC. It’s a Shelter which helps LGBTQ+ youths and young adults transition out of the shelter system and grow into thriving, independent, and mental healthy adults. Another would be the Marsha P. Johnson Institute. Their purpose is to protect and defend the rights black transgender people.
The never-ending salt that our entire community holds towards Gwen Stefani 😂 It's been what, 17 years?? 🤣 Also you and Tyler are like My Melody and Kuromi in terms of online personality dichotomies, it's amazing 🖤💗
Dang, got into Lolita through the two of you. Really hope you're well. Knowing zero about your actual life, I hope this is able to happen again someday.
Why would somebody not like Tyler? She's so funny and creative. And maybe I lost some of her videos, but I've never seen her being offensive for real tbh
@F Karma I get what you mean... I can see how ppl would find it grating, but despite being sarcastic and maybe a little acid, she doesnt get offensive for real, right? So idk if it's a case of ppl not understanding sarcasm or just being a little bit too sensitive 🤷♀️
22:14 I think people are aware of that but this isn't meant to be lolita but a German Dirndl. The funny thing is.. when I got my first lolita dress my uncle literally called it a "Manga Dirndl" xD.
It would have been so funny for you to do something similar to the roast or toast this April Fool's, where you show Tyler lolita costumes but tell her they're legit lolita dresses/coords
I feel like you could put that Invader Zim corset with at least a couple old Putumayo skirts and get a pretty decent punk-ish style coord out of it, tbh
Tyler shouldn’t be too embarrassed about being the same thing every year. I was usually a Disney character, a witch, or a cat.... every other I was one or the other lol
The second one was definitely giving me black widow spider costume, with the placement of the red fabric... Like it's a pretty cute black widow spider halloween costume, but doesn't scream Lolita to me whatsoever. Great video! I love when you and Tyler collaborate ❤️
I related so much to Tyler's explanation of Halloween WAAAAAY out in the country. XDD Just trying to get started in lolita, so it's nice to know that another girl from the country who is super down-to-Earth as Tyler is someone who knows how it is and is in the community. ^-^ Also, Lor, you're just adorable.^o^
I feel like with the clown dress, you were totally like, “I love this kind of as long as you changed almost everything about it” and I love it. 😂. I know EXACTLY how that feels. Hahah!
You two should review lolita knockoff dresses from wish. I've seen brand dresses pictured there for like $10-20, and im aaawwfulllyy curious what you would receive if you bought one.
Hi, i'm a self taught artist, i often draw gijinkas of pokemon as lolita girls and they do look more like cosplay rather than something you'd wear often, but i honestly do love the lolita style even though i do not wear it myself.
@@s71402san are you a lolita? Is it personally insulting for you that someone draws a character incorporating lolita elements? Or do you just want to gatekeep?
@@ireymm Actually I love Lolita fashion (though I am not a brolita), and just like you I even drew a couple of characters in Lolita fashion outfits. Just like you. But we should keep the fashion away from the character especially if it goes mainstream, as well as keep it pure. There are also elitists and purists that hate when the fashion either gets influenced by others or influences others, as well as when it's worn by minors (especially preteens), non-Japanese or non-Asians, or transgenders. Hell, many Lolitas even hate cat ears, let alone fursuits!!!
I've been trying to get into lolita fashion, but my mom always says "wE'rE noT goIng To WEar coStumEs ouT oF tHe houSE" I'm so tired of telling her it's not a costume! 🙄
Awww I love when you two make videos together!! You're like water and fire but the balance is perfect, funny and entertaining all the time. Btw this is my favorite video in this year so far. 😂❤️ Thanks a lot. ❤️