Ten (very) PAINFUL facts about EV charging | MGUY Australia 

What’s funny is that even if you did take this mystical 50% off, it’s still over double the cost of me charging my EV at home 🤣🤣🤣

@@Audioremedy0785 Ahh the good old ‘I have a driveway I’m all right Jack’ answer that’s not really an answer.

@@xr6lad not my fault you are poor mate 👍🏻

​@@Audioremedy0785Price of the vehicle, insurance, depreciation, reliability in an emergency, the dangers of charging inhouse . . . The deception of net zero

They retire in multi million$ beach front mansions. The GREED new deal.

Irrelevant if the car is charged overnight while you sleep.

@@gerbre1. That argument no longer washes mate. There are literally hundreds of cases where people won’t do or can’t do that. Go home snob. So you have to ‘sleep’ to recharge. lol. So your car is never totally ready for any eventuality and need.

@@gerbre1 lol. Again totally ignoring those with no driveways. Elitism at its finest.

​@@xr6lad you can't use a level 1 charger then with no drive so irrelevant point

Inefficient?

not a problem. even post 2035 people can still run their ICE for as long as they like, that's your choice.

@@AcemeistreNot if the communist demoncraps have their way. FEVs and FJB. 🥶🔥🖕🇨🇳

You sound like all the people who turned their noses up at smart phones and can’t live without them now.

Yeah it will, fuel will get too expensive

​@@Acemeistre Unless they introduce limitations on travel by a number of different methods, price fuel beyond people's budgets . . .

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This is gold - should sell it on a bumper sticker!

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You mean they’re queued at a public recharge centre somewhere….

5 percent of all EVs sold are still on the road today. The other 95 percent never made it back home.

I have a huge front drive enough space for 20 cars but I would never own an EV. Just some old Land Rover Dedfender diesels. Powerful, reliable, fun to drive, can run on chip oil and can go anywhere. Need I say more.

I know, petrol paupers need a better house, loosers,lol

Far more than 40% of people are apartment dwellers in the metropolitan areas where EVs would provide the most benefit for reducing emissions.

@@gaiustacitus4242Big cities don‘t need cars at all, at least in Europe.

@@gerbre1and yet another lie as evidence by those cities having many cars that frequently get used. Can we join this fantasy?

Thieves won’t be charged. Get it. Charged. Gold!

EV owners are only upset when they are personally inconvenienced by the copper thieves.

Soon thieves will cut more of charging cables and vandals too that will cost EV charging operators to pay more to replace them and the more it does will put them out of business when their money run out. Lol

The widespread inappropriate and uneconomical use of renewable energy equipment and battery electric vehicles will generate a shortage of copper. Net Zero is prohibitively costly, impractical and totally unnecessary. It is the result of ridiculous and economically destructive popular delusions triumphing over critical thinking and common sense in the formulation of energy policy.

Especially here in South Africa, where the proletariat will steal anything and everything.

Many people like Al Gore simply don't see the problem there, by their own explicate rationale, it's OK for very wealthy people to consume large amounts of resources, because there are not many very wealthy people. His actual argument, not mine! It's the riff raff that have to sacrifice so that the wealthy can enjoy an 'unspoiled' world (i.e. less traffic on roads, marinas and airports) A classic example; John Kerry hiked marina fees in Massachusetts by an enormous amount for 'environmental reasons'. A little independent research proved he kept a 70 foot classic wooden yacht in one of them. Yet there are people who genuinely believe he was more worried about the environment, than clearing out those obnoxious noisy poor people with their cheap little fiberglass boats... that was a totally unanticipated bonus for him.

Right!! The prime Minister of Canada spent $250,000 on food in 6 days, it's absolutely ridiculous!!!

We aren’t being “asked,” we are being told. Big difference.

Seen a video of filling up a yacht. Took 5 commercial tankers/18 wheelers

@@shink9844 of course they do, they don't believe any of the nonsense they'd like for everyone else to believe.

It's coming sooner than that for many. Having essentially banned IC in Norway, they are now proposing pulling all the subsidies that EVs and chargers rely on- diverting that money to public transport instead. But if you saw all this coming a mile away, you're a 'conspiracy theorist'

​@@user-jb2om7cm8m If the goal is to not allow us to drive , there are far more simple ways to do that and it can be done now. No need to invent a whole new industry to achieve it. This nonsense has been spouted so often that the hard of thinking actually believe it!

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Thank God others see this on this page. The whole United Nations 2100 A.D. Agenda as part of the great NovusOrdoSeclorum Agenda. Good on you to spread the truth. My best advice is that we must all do our best to try and awaken as many people as possible to this immensely long planned facinorous agenda and DO NOT COMPLY/RESIST for when we do we do make thinks much much harder for the megalomaniacal kings/rulers of the earth to implement their straight from the Devil far and wide reaching agenda.

​@@user-jb2om7cm8m Whoa i didn't realise that about Norway! Lunatic!! Yes yes i've been called a conspiracy theorist _[in the See-Eye-Eh weaponised pejorative since JFK assassination way]_ since early 2001 when i was informed of the NovusOrdoSeclorumAgenda and have studied it since. Those who use it against us most of the time do not even know what conspiracy and what a conspiracy theorist etymologically/truly means, they just parrot the weaponised version they've been indoctrinated with not even realising that we are all actually conspiracy theorists. When you wonder, think upon, ponder, consider how a crime done by two or more people was done, you're a conspiracy theorist. That is how successful the deliberate dim-witting and dulling down of society has become in the West by the same very kings/rulers who want their Global Governance/Technocratic Feudalism.

Do you feel any guilt...shame

@@richardgadoury8452 You mean for being sensible and clever? I don't.

...meanwhile dumbass Dave is paying £400 a month to fuel his car while EV owners pay £30

@@richardgadoury8452, why would he?

@@richardgadoury8452not an ounce😊

Mguy and Macmaster are mates, they sleep in the same bed together and have wet dreams over exploding ev's

No stupidity at all. If the 12V is flat it‘s not possible to activate the high voltage battery because it is physically disconnected from the system for security reasons.

Same as ice cars then

@@dps615 *Interest fact... the RU-vid API allows you to collect all comments from ONE USER... globally on the system.* *_Ohh, lookie here. DPS has an e-rektion for his EV car._* *I'm sorry you were a sucker, and failed at math and science in school, and you ended up being a good wage slave, that just reads headlines and does what you're told... but we are here now... and from this point forward, is the amount of time, it takes for stupid, ego, and narcissism to clear your system, before you can enter back into a society that thinks for themselves.* *_Quit being a cvnt, you were wrong, you screwed up... own it, and quit putting others down, because you're weak._*

same as ICE cars - some ICE are poorly built, some EV are poorly built. nothing new.

The joke is on you for never owning one

All cars have a battery. Which one are you talking about?

*Lol... this level of hurr durr will continue, just like with every other sheep-following doctrine, where 'scientism' has taken over.* The above comment wasn't for Ian.

@@dps615 Yeah right. Good luck.

@@dps615 They're great if you replace your car every 5 years and don't go on long trips. Too bad they take more than 7 years to recoup the energy needed to make them.

So well stated. You perfectly, to me anyway, encapsulated why especially Tesla fanboys, are the ones who love EVs, and still are uber fans of Star Wars and all sorts of perma-juvenile things.

Id take one for free theyre fast AF. Probably wouldnt want a tesla tho. The build quality is trash. Itd be fun around town launching it from every red light but its like dailying a golf cart. You still need a real car that you might use a bit less.

EV vehicles won't last long. And even if it only takes one hour to fully charge in the beginning when new, very soon it will be slower and slower, taking from the 1 hour to 2 hours than 3 hours etc to charge. Why do I say this? My cellphone when new may only take half hour to fully charge, now after 6 years, it has gone upto 2 hours or longer to fully charge! Whereas petrol cars, all new and old the same, takes only 5 to 10 minutes to fill up in full.

@@stevensgarage6451 going fast in a straight line gets boring quickly.

ICEVs do worse in the city. EVs do better in the city.

Thats correct and dont even think about going fast AND having air con.

MY EV does the claimed range...it does even better around town

@@stevewest131liar.

I always assumed range estimates were based on driving at the speed limits. That is how it works with GPS estimated time of arrival.

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You've spelt impotent wrong mate

@@stevewest131 *You've spelt wage-slave wrong mate.*

I’m assuming you are taking the piss? It’s just a list of anecdotal and misrepresentative information he had listed off another website.

​@@Audioremedy0785 What? You mean just like none of al gores or gretas climate predictions became reality. The reasoning on pushing the narrative is based on incorrect data. Disinformation

@@Audioremedy0785I’m sure your happy there are kids in the Congo mining for your EV

@@SandiKlein the same Cobalt thats used to de sulphur road fuel and the same Cobalt thats in all ICE catalytic converters.

@@organickevinlondon yes but much much more, it needs to stop for all of it, not add to it.

In many ways the few minutes filling gas is a GOOD thing. Cofe n snack, say hello to a real human, move the legs and on a long trip park up and feel good, because overall, ICE cars release less Carbon and even less when you consider EVs get written off at the drop of curb bump. THE GREENies refuse to do the maths (oh dear that old reality issue). The GREEN with envy people have gone very very quite on the Carbon numbers.

Dont we love standing there, waiting to pay for our fuel while some wood duck scratches around buying a pie, stick book, 8$ bottle of milk and then fks about trying to rem his credit card pin?

Supercharge locations should have a restaurant next door. Level 2 chargers need a motel.

@@partymanau In what third world country is that? I just use my credit card at the pump.

5 years and 104,000 km without empty small battery.

Information you will not be able to find and data that will never be collected as it would destroy the agenda.

@@gerbre1wow one example.

@@xr6lad Never more than ten k from the house.

I've been driving for over 45 years and clocked almost 2 million miles and have NEVER run out of gas.

.... The hell are you talking about? There is no battery lithium or otherwise on the planet that lasts for 10 years in regular charging cycles and discharging cycles🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣... Go check the resale value for even gently used EV's and you will see that the battery is the death sentence for these cars. They are worthless used.

​@@LadyBits2023 you do realise those vehicles jandejong bought are ICE cars?

Then what?

😊 YES 👍👍👍👍🍀🍀

@@LadyBits2023 Have you seen the depreciation on ANY mid to high specced vehicle ever? Shock horror they ALL go down at the same rate.. Ever wondered why late model euro cars are also worthless after a few years?

Let's be honest, diesel at the highway pumps is more expensive than at the pumps beyond the offramp... Why get fuel there, plan your trip and save money.

@@ttkddry Even if you did pay for the higher priced diesel it would still be cheaper

@@stevebeever2442 that is not the point, everything is more expensive there so don't shop there. But then again idiots buy overpriced coffee at Starbucks too :-)

@@ttkddry’plan your trip’. Hilarious. Let’s repeat that . ‘Plan your trip’. So you have to ‘plan’ to drive off ramp just to find a cheap charger that could actually be some distance away. Wonderful fun.

As non Tesla driver I would pay 42 or 53 Pence at superchargers without subscription. With subscription it would be 34 or 43 Pence.

Look on the positive side. If you're a novelist you can write a couple of chapters waiting in an EV queue! 😂

hahaha...I wish I could give this a million likes!

you have obviously never used a public charger...you park your car next to the charger, plug it in, then off you you go to the cafe for a refreshments....you don't have to baby sit the car while it is being charged, it does it all by itself.

@@martinwalker9234 LMFAO When I fill up, I pull up to the station at 7am, I fill up, I then walk walk into the Servo and pay for my fuel at 7:04am. I walk out & then get into my car at 7:06am. I check my surroundings & I drive off. Don't need to stop for refreshments, don't need to plan my Day around charging, & I have fuel for a week

@@andrewkerr5296 Not paying at the pump is so 20th century. I pay at the pump, let the filling nozzle do its thing, while I go inside and pour myself a Cafe Latte into my limitless subscription cup and/or use the bathroom.

10k would buy me about 100,000 miles of gas...

I live in an ordinary house in a small village in Thailand, I bought my EV and BYD fitted a 7kw charger in my house for free...had it checked by a qualified electrician and it was good to go....Thailand is a 'developing' country and I don't understand why a house in the wealthiest country in the world has such a crap electrical system that you can't add a 7kw charger. My main panel has a 63 amp main breaker so I do limit the air cons I have running when I am charging at 32 amps to be on the safe side.

... you can get a lil box that plugged into 2 sockets on differerent ciircuits that will give you 240v. I forget the name.. or can handwire it.. youtube has vid, how to get 240 v from 2 120v outlets ... US has diffent phases so if have 2 wall sockets w different phases you comnect into opposite ends of house at wall you WILL have 220.

@@martinwalker9234 Well yes, if you have a gas car you don't have to worry about basic necessities like heating and cooling in your house.

@@martinwalker9234 in the UK, it costs about £1,000 to have a 7kW charger installed, so I assume "that STORY from the USA" was just "a story" too,

Yes, my car runs on a liquid, not a gas.

gas is short for gasoline! and we do have cars that run on LPG which is a gas

Solution is to employ chaffeur who24/7 cares for car to be ready and only opens and closes door for owner.

Your last sentence has you on the right road of understanding what the elite have planned... it's the war on the car.

Seemingly normal to visibly abnormal given the facts

@@stephenwhite345 🤣👍

Yes, those people can‘t see climate change or don‘t want to see it.

People with sheeple behavior are not normal.

@@andyr8812 10 4 on that good buddy. 🤣🇦🇺

They're going to have to build the cable into the EV like a vacuum cleaner.

We all can put a petrol generator in trunk and voila have a hybrid, even if they ban anything but pure EV... So there is a opt out, they can't easily force us into awful system... It's almost admirable they're gonna try, that takes balls ..

Then cables will be stolen from the cars

I've done that. When I was a kid I converted a riding mower into a 20 mph go cart! So much fun! No brakes though!😂

11 years to hone those skills 👍

you can buy electric go-karts now

I charge my EV with solar energy from the roof while it is parked in front of the house. No need to drive to a gas station and spend some money to pollute the atmosphere with toxic gases.

Takes 20 seconds to charge at home

That’s a lot of driving

@@dizzydella1 20 seconds? Explain further.

@@gerbre1 Technically incorrect, even assuming you are home enough to charge during the day. You charge using the non-renewable the power company is using to back up the unreliable renewables and the power from your solar panels are simply wasted. This is the dirty secret of power companies. The green stuff is just for show because it isn't reliable enough to actually power the grid.

Irrelevant if the car is charged overnight or not used in the day time.

@@gerbre1 ya thats common.

That's what they're banking on

Batteries are recycled.

So do the EV's.

@@gerbre1 At what cost??

@@gerbre1 Really? I don't think so.

Mines on 186,000, totally fine

And that heat is additional lost big energy for which car owner of course pays too. It could be sufficient to heat homes instead chargers .

1. Kid battery mineral labor 2. Some people get extreme range anxiety 3. Much higher risk of garage fires...... 4. Paying $15k to $20k more than a comparable vehicle.. 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in value, in just 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Much reduced performance from the battery in the cold, on the highway. 8. Higher repair costs, where many, many mechanics refuse to work on them or aren't trained to do so. 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather, without restrooms. 10. Higher insurance rates. The UK is a great example. 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot, if you use it in cars that have that feature. 13. $15k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. Sometimes, you must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road). Currently illegal to run an extension cord to the street in most places. 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce 1 ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium.

More ; 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage..... 27. It is very hard to charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. Look to Chicago news for this situation. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer or storm drain system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't actually put the fires out, they are only trying to prevent other things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there are 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. It has come to my attention that some people set up their regen system for maximum regen while taking their foot off the accelerator pedal, and not "coasting". For best mpg, you must coast more. You need to "hyper mill" for best mpg. If regen is set too high, passengers will end up puking. This happens because the car is too quiet and accelerating and slowing down to fast. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better, but... The state of new Jersey will have a new annual road tax for Ev buyers, starting July 1st, 2024. The fee starts at $250 in July and will increase by $10 until 2028, when it reaches $290. EV buyers in the state will also have to pay four years of registration fees upfront, making it significantly more expensive to purchase a new electric model. Other states also have their own way of collecting money. 31. in Dublin, huge diesel generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrap money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 children strapped into car seats, in the back seat, which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 787's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean, (Rowan Atkinson) says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panaceaa it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50,000 new or a $20000 used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 5 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would really hurt the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. 47. Many many people claim that driving in an Ev makes them, their family and their dogs sick. Motion sickness. 48. With the extended charge times in the public, there is a much greater chance of getting mugged or car jacked. In a tesla, if you see a criminal gang heading right towards you to mug you and steal your tesla, you can't just drive off. You must go outside, disconnect the charger, go back inside your tesla, turn it on, put it into drive mode, and then attempt to flee the muggers, with the little time you still have remaining. In a regular petrol car, all you must do is put it in drive or 1st gear, and flea the situation. The fuel pump hoses have nice quick-disconnect couplings that pull apart when you go to attempt to flee criminals. This saves much time, your car, and potentially your invaluable life! 49. When your Ev is at 10% Battery left, and you head out to find a public fast charger bank of 10 fast chargers, and they are all full, and ok, some aren't working, and there is a line up of another 10 cars in front of the fast charger bank, you might not be garenteed that once you actually have access to a "fast" charger, that it will actually be capable of "fast" charging. You see, there is only so much power alloted to a full bank of "fast" chargers. You will get fast charging for maybe 5 or 6 chargers being used at a bank of 10, but connect 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 ev's to that bank of 10, the bank as a whole will throttle charging power output to all cars, so as to not fry all the wiring of the bank or blow the fuse or breaker. With 10 cars charging at that bank of fast chargers, it will become a bank of "slow" chargers. I would have of thought that this would be designed into a fast charging bank. Some charging stations might not throttle you down. 50. BMW i5 Ev cars and some similar models of BMW protect their battery life. If you DC "fast" charge to many times, a message pops up saying that you must wait 2 days to "fast DC charge" again. This protects your battery. Some say that you can DC fast charge, but at a reduced rate, and some say that the alarm resets once you ac charge 1 time. 51. With the promise of "better, cheaper battery technology", many people are waiting for that technology to arrive... (allegedly). That is pushing down the price of current Ev sales. This also pushes down price of the used Ev market. When Tesla continually cut down the price of new ev's, to artificially stoke demand, it also pushes down the price of all used ev's as well. 52. Right now, the cost of throwing out or recycling your Ev Battery is $zero. One day, I'll imagine that there will be a heavy fee to get rid of your battery (allegedly). 53. Regular ice cars almost never burst into flames, by themselves, while not being used, while ev's tend to burst into uncontrollable flames by themselves, with the owner nowhere to be found. 54. Some, if not most, "battery powered" firetrucks also include a diesel engine, for when the "tuff" gets going. So not only does the main battery get charged up on the grid, where "fossil fuels" get burnt to produce electricity, when the batteries go flat, "fossil fuels" are there again, to save the day. *not all of these points affect every Ev, or Ev driver, or every Ev charging station or bank* There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt.

@@jakefriesenjakeAgain the list of fairytale stories like in any other video on this channel. Repeating it over and over again, maybe paid by the oil industry, does not make it more true.

@@gerbre1 not paid. Spittin' only da truwf.

​@@jakefriesenjake And now for the alternative view, to bring some balance to this comment thread. 1. same for all lithium products, so don't pretend to care now that EVs have made this more widely known. 2. EVs are not suitable for everyone rn. 3. lower risk of garage fires 4. price parity is getting there for a lot of models now, to say 15-20k more on as it's own statement is false. 5. degradation happens VERY sllooooooowwwwllllllyyyyyy. lots of EVs out there 200k+ miles with over 80% capacity. 6. This is how things have always worked with early gen tech - something comes along that's significantly better 2-3 years down the line and what was a top-price model is no longer that. 7. Yep, this is a thing - future battery tech is getting better at handling this issue tho, so it's an issue that will slowly get solved with each new gen of EV. 8. Higher repairs on individual parts, perhaps, but much fewer of them, so actually costs less than ICE over same stretch of time. 9. Agree, needs to be better. 10. better tech, so yeh higher insurance, whatchu expect? 11. unproven 12. don't get a model with that feature in then - as people love to say around here - let the market decide. 13. which you probably won't ever have to replace. 14. and? this is a thing. range is improving, so don't buy one if 200-400 miles isn't enough for you. 15. do you have experience of this? Seems pretty rare based on the vids I've seen. 16. only needed on long journeys, by which time you'll need a break any way. 17. much, much less than ICE. 18. If, If, If, If. 19. If it's illegal then should you really worry about that then? if they wanna get charger that's up to them - you'll cry "what about the people who could trip over them"? well yeh, but this is extremely rare - have you come across this IRL yet? I sincerely doubt it. 20. really? Gotta a vid reference for this or website? 21. Nobody is claiming EVs to be green, we know about emissions from factories, but they are clean and so once power sources become clean and manufacturing becomes cleaner, then it all goes towards the same goal of cleaning our environment as much as we can. 21b. That Volvo report has been debunked again and again and again and again and again. 22. This is an issue - recycling needs to be made profitable - what suggestions do you have? 23. yes? what of it? does that mean the rest of the world should give up? - no. We need to get on with it and create our own industries for refining and producing batteries - jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs!!! 24. The cost will go down not up, which is what's been happening for decades now. 25. A hurdle to overcome, not to be defeated by.

EV's are about total control of "we the people"

Get an EV with 400 km range or an EV that can charge in 18 minutes.

@@gerbre1 doesn't work like that. I refuel ICE at work time.not at home. You actually think every customer area has a fast charger! You think I would charge an company EV at home at my cost. Think 400km is, in general @100% not night time or includes heating/cooling, although polestar I believe uses a separate heater. Your also implying I could be middle of nowhere, say at 350km mark and suddenly have to find a L3 charger. I can tell you now, I would charge the battery to 100% everytime. As I understand, once you go over 80% (maybe it was 90) the chargee drops significantly, increasing charge time. Also don't discharge below 20%. I could be wrong, so are you saying one could charge from say 5% to100% in 18 minutes? Name that EV please. I'll do further research. Company won't provide a top of the line EV in any case.

@@Ted...youtubeeEVs with 800V system can charge from 10% to 80% in 18 minutes. You do not charge over 80% except if you have time to charge longer for any reason like having dinner. You can drive below 10% if you want and charge afterwards. If you drive 400 km a day you only need to charge once somewhere on the route, not at home and not at a customer although both locations would be better if you could. You charge when there is a free fast charger nearby with minimal time loss when driving to and back on your route. This way even charging twice does not cost much more time than charging over 80%. In Germany you can charge your company car at home with a wallbox, ideally with a charger the company can access via Internet. The company will pay for the electricity used for charging. And some companies even pay your wallbox.

It must cause quite a bit of anxiety thinking about how expensive your ICE is to run and having to make trips to petrol stations when you can just fuel up at home.

@@Audioremedy0785 Ha. A 5 minute stop at a gas station once a week isn't exactly a huge burden. How much did you pay to have your home charger installed?

@@softwarephil1709 £500 (4 months fuel savings). 👍🏻

Maybe she will start to watch this channel?

Probably fine

Depends on how far. Read that 2nd hand EVs have likely been abused and possibly have a damaged battery pack. May be a Herts rental. I would have had the battery pack inspected by a professional. A new pack might cost as much as the price that she paid for the car.

I think halfway home she will be listening to the Alice Cooper album "Welcome To My Nightmare"

Maybe you'll get a call asking if you can tow her

If the government paid everyone a handout of $50 000 us per year, practically no one would go to work....unfortunately we have to live in the real world.

That would not serve the puppeteer's agenda

If an EV cost half normal car, $15k vs $30k, most would go Ev. Over 5 years $3000 a year saved compensates for hassle... $60 a week... EVs arent worthless just not as good

People who are driven around in limousines.

Filled up the RAV4 2.0 litre yesterday. Cost less than $40.00 and lasted over two weeks. EV's would be a total waste of time and money for our household.

I got the Volkswagen EV ad!

I use an add blocker and very rarely do I see adverts on youtube.

5 even

"The powers that be" are very serious about it, though. Remember that it is all driven by the fear of Global Warming. "The powers" will get even more panicked and irrational about it. It will become even more urgent.

I hope so, alas the US Govt is playing the long game, the big question is how did we the people let the Govt spend 600+ Billion dollars on this Faild Adjenda. This thing is a total failure. Just need a rational US President to stop the madness and or at least get the Govt out of the Auto business!

Exactly...the same as when they tried to replace steam trains with diesel and electric locomotives in the 60's.

@@martinwalker9234 nothing like that, try again.

They don‘t comment on nonsense.

@@gerbre1 Everything that comes out of their mouths is nonsense. What they never do, is tell the truth.

Maybe they discuss pie in the sky stuff and they haven't had to deal with the "real world." There are a lot of unknown "we didn't expect that to happen" issues that will come up when more EVs hit the road and approach 100K miles. Hyrbids have been around for a while and seem to be doing okay. But EVs are "next level."

I also subscribe to those two podcasts.There is no amount of my money they won't spend on this EV fantasy Narrative.I do what to hear all sides on the topic.

Good on you. Funny how motorbikes are absent from the whole conversation about efficiency...!!

I suspect that the EV will shut down if the battery is outside of its recommended specs. The car will become a door stop.

at least they employ people, instead of them ending up as "meth heads".

@@organickevinlondon I hear you , I know many guy's that worked on both and I feel for them as well .

there are plenty of Muslims in Sweden, that will thank you for indirectly funding Saudi Arabia EVERY time you fill up your ICE. "well done you" or maybe not.

You seem to be under the impression that you have posted in the correct place.

@@johnnunn8688 Ok, let me clarify. I'm maintaining an oldish petrol car. This is a car channel right?

@@bigjoeangel this channel is about EVs and how crap they are.

@@johnnunn8688 do one numpty

It works with a good charging infrastructure. No problem to drive 50,000 km a year then.

go and tell that to the owners of EVs at your local EV charging point, and they will think yer some sort of a NUT JOB.

@@gerbre1 30k miles a year? What else are you doing but driving around . . . ?

The question is Robert, do you drive your 500 miles without stopping? No rest, revive, survive breaks? No toilet stops? No meals? And no sleep before ‘do it again’? And for those times you’ve got to urgently travel much more than 500 miles, why aren’t you flying? It’s faster than driving long distances.

@@markboscawen8330 I stand by what Robert said and I'll answer your questions as if they were asked of me. I have a 4x4 diesel ute fully outfitted. That includes constantly running refrigerated food, water, cooking, and sleeping gear onboard. You can stop and eat and drink wherever, and whenever you like. Swags or rooftop tents are a marvelous invention as you pay no hotel/motel bills. If you're a man toilets are only needed for number 2 (when you get out of the city and the burbs) and are provided at roadside 'rest area's'. Flying doesn't always make sense within your own countries land mass because of airport locations relative to your start and finish destinations. When you choose to fly you have to rent a vehicle when you land at costs that overall will be much higher than if you had just taken your own vehicle the distance. If your vehicle is equipped like mine is then you also detach yourself from all self sufficiency that is onboard and are back to paying others to provide it. All that said, some people don't like flying, and some are terrified of it. Others like driving and still prefer to see what their country has to offer in it's vast landmass instead of flying over it.

So you dont mind, driving 1,000 miles in 24 hours, that's 14 hours at 70 mph, THAT makes spending 2 hours charging up an EV look sensible.

More : 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage..... 27. It is very hard to charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. Look to Chicago news for this situation. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer or storm drain system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't actually put the fires out, they are only trying to prevent other things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there are 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. It has come to my attention that some people set up their regen system for maximum regen while taking their foot off the accelerator pedal, and not "coasting". For best mpg, you must coast more. You need to "hyper mill" for best mpg. If regen is set too high, passengers will end up puking. This happens because the car is too quiet and accelerating and slowing down to fast. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better, but... The state of new Jersey will have a new annual road tax for Ev buyers, starting July 1st, 2024. The fee starts at $250 in July and will increase by $10 until 2028, when it reaches $290. EV buyers in the state will also have to pay four years of registration fees upfront, making it significantly more expensive to purchase a new electric model. Other states also have their own way of collecting money. 31. in Dublin, huge diesel generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrap money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 children strapped into car seats, in the back seat, which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 787's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean, (Rowan Atkinson) says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panaceaa it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean (Rowan Atkinson) is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50,000 new or a $20000 used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 5 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would really hurt the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. 47. Many many people claim that driving in an Ev makes them, their family and their dogs sick. Motion sickness. 48. With the extended charge times in the public, there is a much greater chance of getting mugged or car jacked. In a tesla, if you see a criminal gang heading right towards you to mug you and steal your tesla, you can't just drive off. You must go outside, disconnect the charger, go back inside your tesla, turn it on, put it into drive mode, and then attempt to flee the muggers, with the little time you still have remaining. In a regular petrol car, all you must do is put it in drive or 1st gear, and flea the situation. The fuel pump hoses have nice quick-disconnect couplings that pull apart when you go to attempt to flee criminals. This saves much time, your car, and potentially your invaluable life! 49. When your Ev is at 10% Battery left, and you head out to find a public fast charger bank of 10 fast chargers, and they are all full, and ok, some aren't working, and there is a line up of another 10 cars in front of the fast charger bank, you might not be garenteed that once you actually have access to a "fast" charger, that it will actually be capable of "fast" charging. You see, there is only so much power alloted to a full bank of "fast" chargers. You will get fast charging for maybe 5 or 6 chargers being used at a bank of 10, but connect 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 ev's to that bank of 10, the bank as a whole will throttle charging power output to all cars, so as to not fry all the wiring of the bank or blow the fuse or breaker. With 10 cars charging at that bank of fast chargers, it will become a bank of "slow" chargers. I would have of thought that this would be designed into a fast charging bank. Some charging stations might not throttle you down. 50. BMW i5 Ev cars and some similar models of BMW protect their battery life. If you DC "fast" charge to many times, a message pops up saying that you must wait 2 days to "fast DC charge" again. This protects your battery. Some say that you can DC fast charge, but at a reduced rate, and some say that the alarm resets once you ac charge 1 time. 51. With the promise of "better, cheaper battery technology", many people are waiting for that technology to arrive... (allegedly). That is pushing down the price of current Ev sales. This also pushes down price of the used Ev market. When Tesla continually cut down the price of new ev's, to artificially stoke demand, it also pushes down the price of all used ev's as well. 52. Right now, the cost of throwing out or recycling your Ev Battery is $zero. One day, I'll imagine that there will be a heavy fee to get rid of your battery (allegedly). 53. Regular ice cars almost never burst into flames, by themselves, while not being used, while ev's tend to burst into uncontrollable flames by themselves, with the owner nowhere to be found. 54. Some, if not most, "battery powered" firetrucks also include a diesel engine, for when the "tuff" gets going. So not only does the main battery get charged up on the grid, where "fossil fuels" get burnt to produce electricity, when the batteries go flat, "fossil fuels" are there again, to save the day. *not all of these points affect every Ev, or Ev driver, or every Ev charging station or bank* There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt.

You should really take a pill.

@@gerbre1 which do you recommend?

‘Much higher risk of garage fires’ is just a total lie. And I would love to know what $11k car you would say is comparable to a Tesla model Y. You just sound like a moron to be honest.

NO ONE thats got an EV, takes your long comment seriously, so it was a complete waste of your time typing it.

We have high quality public fast chargers in Germany. That was different in the past but changed with new reliable models like alpitronic.

@@gerbre1 that are massively expensive. No thanks.

@@jonhollis2447 EV with 15 kWh/100 km consumption and 39 ct/kWh makes 5,85 €/100 km. You can get 3,6 Litres Diesel for this price in Germany. In addition you have to pay a monthly fee of 17,99€ to get the 0,39 ct/kWh. If you drive 1000 km per month that makes 76,49€ or 7,65€/100 km or 4,7 Litres of Diesel. Massively expensive?

Only to find they're were already half flat because they had been sitting for so long unsold because of the price.

We'll find out when the children who sit with their parents grow older.

I think a battery has no actual charge, it's a chemical reaction when you connect the 2 ends. A battery is not a "capacitor" where there is charge already. There is maybe more charge in a running fan that people sleep next to.....

Mobile phones come with warnings regarding electro magnetic radiation. Should cars also do the same? All cars are full of useless electronic garbage these days, so it would be nice which new car is the best of the worst for your long term health.

Voltages 440 are not much dangerous - comparable to 220V at home. HV open lines are harming because have voltages raging to 200 kV and it makes more difference then only by proportion - it creates jonisation of air. . Due to that number health problems with them is concerned. Rising that makes opponents easy way to beat it. But powerfull pure magnetic fields created by currents in conductors , specially in electric motors without shelding is something I personaly would not accept. Even it is hard to proof on paper but by practice am convinced 100% that it makes crazy disturbance to my body and made to my dog.too. Just ask any electrician if he would like sleep at night on top of power transformer. or nearer then say 1 meter.

Are the brakes electric too?

​@@johnnunn8688not sure but the accelerator pedal has this one cool trick in which it gets stuck at full speed cruise control

@@MM-kk8uh saw that, not too flash!

Unfortunately VW, Mercedes, and BMW EV's are overpriced compared to the Chinese and offer no advantage in performance or quality.

Proudly looking after environment..v6 commo sport wagon z series, & ford transit van diesel 😅

Inefficient tyres don‘t cause range anxiety. The car tells you where to charge at the next supercharger. An experienced EV driver always knows how far he can drive.

@@gerbre1 with airless tyres increasing the rolling resistance, the EV won't be able to travel as far as with conventional tubeless tyres Will EV software be able to account for the additional rolling resistance, or will the driver have to factor in to the car's suggested next charge a percentage reduction due to these tyres?

You say they are ‘soon to be offered’, Tesla is literally just testing them because they are a forward thinking company. Nothing is being offered to anyone.

​@@gerbre1latest survey in the US shows that almost half of ev drivers are planning to ditch them and go back to ice cars That's what experienced ev drivers really think.

@@angleseyandy9110 no, thats just Americans being DUMB as per usual.

Not the cars fault if the installation at home is too weak.

It isn't rocket science...if you have a 7kw wall charger on 220v that is about 32 amps (assuming the PF is close to 1) so you install a 40 amp breaker and dedicated cabling to your wall charger....you cannot condemn EV's because stupid people wire up their chargers incorrectly.

it's not rocket science, a 7kw charger draws about 32 amps (assuming the PF is close to 1) so you install a 40 amp breaker in your house panel and run 8 AWG wire to the wall charger....any qualified electrician can install a 7kw charger without causing stuff to melt....this is a daft reason to talk someone out of buying an EV.

Eh?

Does anyone understands what it means?

Just wait for the next oil crises...I remember my dad queuing for petrol in the 70's and the fear of rationing being introduced which never happened....all it takes is some conflict in the middle east and it will all kick off again.

I narrowed my new car selection down to two models..the Toyota Camry Hybrid and a BYD Seal. Spent a lot of time reading up on the models, test drives checking each out in the show room and the BYD is now sitting on my drive. Nicer to drive, more powerful, better quality interior, better features, per mile running costs a 1/4 of the Camry and the BYD was £6500 cheaper. Had it 4 months now and every time I drive it confirms I made the right decision. It cost 30% more to insure than the Camry, understandable as it has almost double the 185 BHP of the Camry.

Guys a plonker

They are the same people that took the jabs. Pure sheeple.

Lol, evs rule dude, just petrol paupers are unorganised

​@@dizzydella1 your delusional if you think that 😂 and why do you think people that drive petrol cars are paupers ? They are sensible because they don't waste money on buying a 💩ev

​@@robbie2447OK, thanks

100% correct Robbie2447.

@josa9902 you don’t have to imagine. If every car on the road today was an EV then total grid demand would only increase by 15%. But as the full transition to EVs won’t happen until ~2050 we’ve got plenty of time to boost supply to deliver it.

I have heard that many MacDonald restaurants in Europe have EV charging stations. In other words, get an EV and get fat!

@@andyr8812McDonalds, Burger King, Aral gas stations (BP), Shell gas stations and many supermarkets in Germany.

I think what people who don’t have EVs don’t realise is that you just pop it on when you park up. Takes 3 seconds and you are always full for every journey.

Have you considered a hybrid? As efficiencies improve, you will probably be able to go well above that in distance. Not sure about the design target but it is possible to go very long distances in a hybrid. And that includes a mix of highway and city driving. It will be interesting to follow the new hybrid tech in the future.

I always fill my car up with 145 miles of range, its a Mini Cooper Electric.

yet, you probably spends HOURS watching this drivel from MGUY.

Not enough Deloreans

Seriously. Well sort of.... maybe some form of smaller reactor. Fission.... nuclear tech is improving. You'd never have to charge it. Just don't get into an accident.